Open Thread

The Supreme Court shot down the Texas case – unanimously. This is about how I expected it to go. It shouldn’t have gone that way, but the Court wasn’t going to provide us a way out of this. Politics is always the answer to political problems. Do keep in mind, though, that war is a continuation of politics by another means. If we are sure our loss is due to cheating as the Democrats are convinced that their losses are due to cheating then politics will shift from ballot to cartridge box. It is incumbent upon everyone who wants a democratic Republic to ensure that all future elections are free and fair.

That said: do note that Democrats are already gearing to force Joe out – they’ll get him out over Hunter’s corruption of Joe senility, but they will get him out. He will not see the end of his term in office, come what may. Joe is pliable enough, but the last thing the Democrat powerbrokers want is a President who’s wife and closest aides are the only people allowed to see him.

As China cracks down on Hong Kong dissidents, one person notably silent on it is Pope Francis – likely as a result of the Vatican’s agreement with China, the provisions of which are still not fully known. To be sure, the Pope has said things against China, but it is odd that he hasn’t stood forth on the matters of liberty, and especially as it relates to Chinese Catholics. I have to come down hard on the Pope on this one: no agreement with China is worth this much. My view is that various parts of the Church bureaucracy are in the hands of the same sort of people who run the American and other global bureaucracies: ie, people who are both stupid and bought. China is a menace to human decency and must be excised from the councils of the world.

Speaking of which, the Democrats are practically owned by the Chinese. Don’t crow too much about this as I’ll bet a lot of GOPers are now CCP franchises, as well. What is really astonishing in the chump change which the Chinese buy our leaders with. You’d figure that if you were going to betray the greatest nation in human history, you’d at least want the ChiComs to provide a hot chick, right? Nothing doing: they’re sending us the chicks the CCP leadership rejected. Now we can really see why we went Russia, Russia, Russia this past four years: it was likely paid for and orchestrated by China, which has a vested interest in getting rid of Trump and having something else be America’s bogeyman.

129 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook December 11, 2020 / 11:09 pm

    That said: do note that Democrats are already gearing to force Joe out

    It would be poetic justice if his own party impeached him.

    • Amazona December 11, 2020 / 11:38 pm

      Nah, they won’t impeach him. That would require them to admit what they have known all along and hidden from their base to get him in the White House. Note that I don’t say “elected”—just “in the White House”. But that’s OK—let them get rid of him however they want. I think he has already agreed to step aside, given his blurting out that he would pretend to be sick so he could resign if there was a “moral” conflict between him and Kammy. I am sure there is a` nice payoff for him, maybe a pardon for him and Hunter after he leaves, and he and Jill get to play big shots for a while. He’ll do what he said, and develop some disease that lets him step down.

      I accepted Obama, much as I despised his politics and his ethics. I do not and will not accept Biden and Harris. The “Resistance” to Trump was just pissy Identity Politics. The resistance to this charade goes way way deeper than that. This is resistance to having our entire constitutional form of governance hijacked and I don’t think the Left even begins to understand the depth and intensity of the rage this is creating.

      • Retired Spook December 12, 2020 / 12:06 am

        I don’t think the Left even begins to understand the depth and intensity of the rage this is creating.

        It’s one thing to get beaten by someone with better ideas, or because your guy didn’t keep his campaign promises or didn’t accomplish anything, but that’s not what happened here, and I think the vast majority of Americans know it.

      • crewman4238 December 12, 2020 / 1:05 am

        295,000 dead Americans, Spook. That’s why Trump lost.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 11:56 am

        So now the claim is that 81,282,903 people, all of whom were alive and voting legally where they were supposed to be voting, believed that a different leader would have been able to somehow control a virus. It is that following the advice of people deemed, even now, to be experts in the fields of public health and epidemics was not enough and that a competent president would, somehow, in some way never explained, have been able to go above and beyond the known science to somehow exert control over a fast-spreading virus. Because President Trump was not that person he deserved to be defeated.

        That is a summary of the statement 295,000 dead Americans, Spook. That’s why Trump lost. According to Lefty cryboy, Trump lost because so many people died “of the virus”.

        But let’s put that another way. Such as “81,282,903 people, all of whom were alive and voting legally where they were supposed to be voting, were stupid and gullible enough to believe the agenda-promoting media when they pushed the lie that 295,000 people really all died from this virus when other, objective, media truthfully reported that many of these deaths were not due to the virus at all.”

        Then there is this: There is a sudden increase in deaths in 2020 due to COVID-19. This is no surprise because COVID-19 emerged in the U.S. in early 2020, and thus COVID-19-related deaths increased drastically afterward.

        Analysis of deaths per cause in 2018 revealed that the pattern of seasonal increase in the total number of deaths is a result of the rise in deaths by all causes, with the top three being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia.

        When Briand looked at the 2020 data during that seasonal period, COVID-19-related deaths exceeded deaths from heart diseases. This was highly unusual since heart disease has always prevailed as the leading cause of deaths. However, when taking a closer look at the death numbers, she noted something strange. As Briand compared the number of deaths per cause during that period in 2020 to 2018, she noticed that instead of the expected drastic increase across all causes, there was a significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease. Even more surprising, as seen in the graph below, this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes.

        The article claimed that “This trend is completely contrary to the pattern observed in all previous years.” In fact, “the total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.”

        Briand concludes that the COVID-19 death toll in the United States is misleading and that deaths from other diseases are being categorized as COVID-19 deaths.

        Then there is this conclusion, at the end of an article about the misapplication of Covid 19 as “cause of death” for people who really died of other causes.

        There may be four types of recorded coronavirus deaths: (1) deaths only caused by COVID-19 (roughly 3 percent), (2) deaths in which COVID-19 ended the life of someone already struggling with health conditions, (3) deaths from other causes but after a patient had tested positive for the virus, and (4) deaths falsely marked “COVID-19” when there was not even a test. Deaths of type 1 and 2 are rightly considered coronavirus deaths, while deaths of type 3 are much harder to distinguish from type 2, and deaths of type 4 are completely inflating the numbers.

        So cryman is asserting, no doubt with some accuracy, that most if not all Biden voters are just plain stupid, gullible and easily led by the Agenda Media and the masters of the Left.

        BTW, the figures I used for alleged Biden voters are those quoted by Agenda Media types, as the number of actual votes he received. Pretty amazing that he broke all records for votes ever received by any candidate in any election while winning fewer counties than any other “winning” candidate. But that’s for other posts.

      • Retired Spook December 12, 2020 / 12:33 pm

        295,000 dead Americans, Spook. That’s why Trump lost.

        LOL! If you believe that then go somewhere else where halfwits are admired and welcome.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 1:32 pm

        Actually, we already know where halfwits are admired and welcomed. Many are given cushy jobs on CNN, MSNBC and so on. Some are dispatched to infest blogs like this one.

        I’ve been pointing out for years that the Left recruits many if not most of its followers from those with personality disorders. After centuries of awareness that some personality and character traits are not desirable or even acceptable, the Left came along and recognized these people as a potential pool of followers and supporters. All they had to do was validate the personality disorders others had been trying to cure with therapy, tone down with drugs or simply avoid. Paranoia, irrational rage and resentment and blind hatred can all be powerful tools if directed and focused on political opponents, and all it really takes is acceptance and praise for these characteristics. Giving these people a putative explanation for their fury and hatred lets them feel justified and even noble when expressing them.`

        Now science has caught up with me: Science Confirms It: There’s a New Personality Disorder Creating Faux Victims in Need of Revenge

        According to an article in Scientific American, there is a newly identified disorder called a ‘Tendency for Interpersonal Victimhood.’”
        Researchers identify new personality construct, TIV, “Tendency for Interpersonal Victimhood” which is:

        The compulsion to be a victim, which involves four dimensions: moral elitism, a lack of empathy, the need for recognition, and rumination.

        THE VICTIMHOOD MINDSET

        Constantly seeking recognition of one’s victimhood. Those who score high on this dimension have a perpetual need to have their suffering acknowledged.

        A sense of moral elitism. Those who score high on this dimension perceive themselves as having an immaculate morality and view everyone else as being immoral. Moral elitism can be used to control others by accusing others of being immoral, unfair or selfish, while seeing oneself as supremely moral and ethical.</i.

        Lack of empathy for the pain and suffering of others. People scoring high on this dimension are so preoccupied with their own victimhood that they are oblivious to the pain and suffering of others.

        At the group level, research suggests that increased attention to an in-group’s victimization reduces empathy toward the adversary as well as toward unrelated adversaries. Even just the priming of victimhood has been shown to increase ongoing conflicts, with the priming leading to reduced levels of empathy toward the adversary and people being more willing to accept less collective guilt for current harm. In fact, research on “competitive victimhood” shows that members of groups involved in violent conflicts tend to see their victimization as exclusive and are prone to minimize, belittle or outright deny their adversary’s suffering and pain

        A group that is completely preoccupied with its own suffering can develop what psychologists refer to as an “egoism of victimhood,” whereby members are unable to see things from the perspective of the rival group’s perspective, are unable or unwilling to empathize with the suffering of the rival group, and are unwilling to accept any responsibility for harm inflicted by their own group

        The higher participants’ TIV, the more they experienced negative emotions and felt entitled to behave immorally. However, only the experience of negative emotions predicted behavioral revenge.”
        ……………….

        “….the priming of victimhood has been shown to increase ongoing conflicts, with the priming leading to reduced levels of empathy toward the adversary and people being more willing to accept less collective guilt for current harm.” We see the Left doing this all the time, “priming the victimhood” of its followers and the resultant “…less collective guilt for current harm.”

        As for the characteristic of “A sense of moral elitism” this should be Number One on the list. The self-satisfied preening of people engaged in or defending essentially immoral acts (such as rigging an election or looting stores or killing police officers) is blatant and offensive, yet it is possibly the most predominant characteristic of the Left.

      • crewman4238 December 12, 2020 / 1:03 pm

        Trump probably would have won the election if he had just pretended to care about how COVID-19 is killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. But is narcism wouldn’t allow him to even pretend, let alone actually take action. Instead, he consistently downplayed the virus and claimed that it would magically go away. He will end his presidency with the virus at its worst since the pandemic began. It didn’t just go away like he claimed he would.

        When is the last time you have heard Trump express his condolences at the loss of life? We are losing more people a day than died on 9/11. Most times, Americans rally around their president in times of crisis. Not Trump, because it is obvious that he does not care. You can look at the experience of Andrew Cuomo as an example of how Trump could have had the support of the majority of Americans. The majority of New Yorkers approve of Cuomo’s handling of coronavirus despite the fact that New York was ravaged by the virus in the spring.

        So you can downplay the virus all you want, call me names (so mature, Amazona), but that doesn’t change the fact that Trump lost the election by a wide margin. Because he simply does not care about Americans.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 1:47 pm

        If you can actually claim that Trump showed indifference to the suffering and deaths of Americans due to the virus you are either delusional or simply a stone-cold liar—-and you have proved to us that these two characteristics are not mutually exclusive.

        The role of a leader is to remain calm and reassuring while others are panicking. This is what Trump did, and at least half of the country recognized this and appreciated it. There were, of course, sheeple who accepted what they were told Trump “really MEANT” when he said things, just as the ignorant and gullible believed Agenda Media reports that Trump told people to drink bleach or inject it into their veins.

        Your posts illustrate some basic truths about the Left. One is a total indifference to the truth, when lies are necessary to advance the narrative. One is the trait of believing very stupid and clearly false narratives because they support neurotic biases and personality disorders such as blind hatred and seething resentments. One is the Identity Politics aspect, of putting more emphasis on style than on substance—a great example is yours, of people resenting what they were told and then believed was callous indifference to the suffering of Americans instead of appreciation for the nonstop and effective efforts to find ways to actually combat the virus. And, of course, there is the smarmy unctuous posturing of deep—oh so deep, deeply deep, profoundly deep—–grief over the president’s alleged lack of CARING.

        Again, style over substance. Superficial over substantive. Frivolous over serious. You people love Cuomo because he cried some crocodile tears while pretending he didn’t really kill thousands of old people—because he showed that he CARED.

      • Cluster December 12, 2020 / 1:18 pm

        Another adolescent post from soy boy crewboy lamenting that the POTUS did not care enough about him or his transgendered friends. How pathetic but this is the generation we are confronted with. Self obsessed, needy children dependent on their bettors for emotional and financial stability.

        Ironically, the POS’s responsible for most deaths by neglect would be Democrat Governors in NY, IL, NJ, and CA but soy boy doesn’t have the awareness or courage to confront them because his bettors have convinced him that “orange man is bad” and that thought is all that swims around that empty head.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 1:53 pm

        And here you go again, cryboy, trying to set up a bickerfest, Those of us who did not get our “news” from the Agenda Media saw a deeply concerned and empathetic president grieving over the loss of life but focusing not on emotion, which is not productive, but on solving the problem. What you want to do is goad us into doing research into how many times he said what, so you can bicker about that. Of course, people who put more emphasis on emoting than on doing will not recognize productive problem-solving and will just focus on how much emotion was displayed. It’s just more of that superficiality of the Left we comment on so often.

        This is what you do. You start off with a couple of semi-serious comments and then when they are answered you veer off into your usual schtick of trying to get people to play your stupid little games. You do this by tossing out what you think will be irresistible bait to get us to respond.

        But all you are is a troll and a shill, so profoundly dishonest on every level that the Left is really the only true home for you, even if you don’t have an ideological foundation for your allegiance. No, it’s just that the Left validates your personality disorders and gives you permission to be an attack dog while pretending to defend a cause.

  2. Cluster December 12, 2020 / 8:52 am

    This is resistance to having our entire constitutional form of governance hijacked and I don’t think the Left even begins to understand the depth and intensity of the rage this is creating.

    The intensity is fierce and the outrage is huge so much so that I fully expect some things to happen. We are no longer a country of Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, and Liberals. We are now a nation of Americans and Traitors and we are right in the middle of a cold coup and it will be interesting to see how patriotic, constitutional conservatives respond over the next few years. The Traitors are in bed with China, billionaires, and global forces rather than on the side of hard working, Faith and family based Americans. They have sold their soul to identity politics, division, and power and they need to be held accountable. What we didn’t know is how deep the betrayal runs … the Deep State is not a comprised of Americans and this includes all agencies. The betrayal by the DOJ is beyond acceptable and they should be the first to face the wrath followed closely by the media then academia.

    In a stunning admission of stupidity, crewboy seems to think the manufactured and manipulated numbers from the communist CDC was to blame which I guess makes sense … everything the Traitors believe is manufactures propaganda by their overlords. Now crewboy seems to think that “he has no overlords” as he puts on his mask, sanitizes his hands, stays at home, lowers his emissions, defers to the oppressed, and punches the time clock at his mind numbing repetitive job but ignorance is bliss and if we can save just one transgendered soy boy well then it’s all good.

    The time for massive civil disobedience and uprising is now. And the time to make all traitors question their existence and feel uncomfortable is now and for every day over the next 4 years. Never give up, never give in, fight these motherf***ers to the end.

  3. Cluster December 12, 2020 / 9:00 am

    Speaking of which, the Democrats are practically owned by the Chinese.

    Practically?? They are a wholly owned subsidiary of the CCP and so is Big Tech, the NBA, Hollywood, and much of Academia. In 1990 George H.W. Bush mentioned the “New World Order” and since that day, our ruling class and financial elite have been moving towards that direction and as a result the American family has long been forsaken. This battle we face did not just surface in the last 4 years, this cancerous growth in our country has been festering for 30 years.

    And the Pope? He is Satan.

  4. Cluster December 12, 2020 / 9:17 am

    Not much in the Christmas spirit this year. When we are surrounded by Godless traitors, pedophiles, murderers, con men, and propagandists and we sit silent, I don’t feel right about giving glory to God. I think we are letting Him down. Never forget, God is NOT a pacifist and He is watching.

  5. Cluster December 12, 2020 / 11:02 am

    God Bless this woman

    Sidney Powell 🇺🇸⭐⭐⭐
    @SidneyPowell1
    ·
    Pay attention! We made emergency filings in #SupremeCourt tonight for #Georgia & #Michigan. Will be filing #Arizona #Wisconsin shortly. These cases raise constitutional issues and prove massive #fraud.
    Our plaintiffs have #standing
    #WeThePeople will not allow #rigged elections

    And Patriots will not allow a Godless coup nor accept the installation of a pedophile and a communist slut

    • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 12:03 pm

      Well, we’ll see if there is still a spine somewhere on the Court. Neil Gorsuch scolded Chief Justice Mitt Roberts for a cowardly withdrawal from his duties, saying I can only surmise that much of the answer lies in a particular judicial impulse to stay out of the way in times of crisis. But if that impulse may be understandable or even admirable in other circumstances, we may not shelter in place when the Constitution is under attack. Things never go well when we do,

      So let’s hope he meant that, and will lecture the timid members of the Court that no matter what pressures are exerted upon them, no matter how the Left may try to intimidate them into retreat from their duties, we may not shelter in place when the Constitution is under attack. Things never go well when we do,

    • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 12:11 pm

      This article still parrots the Lefty talking points that Trump is “trying to OVERTURN THE RESULTS of this election”. Bull. An unfinished election, in which the results have not been verified, can’t be “overturned”:.

      This massive push by almost all the media to declare this election a done deal, and to claim that efforts to make sure only legitimate votes are considered in the final tally and verification are really efforts to overturn a legitimate and finalized election, is an indication of the forces rallied by the Left to steal this election.

      But this is how propaganda works: A word, or a theme, is repeated so constantly, so incessantly, over time that it becomes part of a belief. It works especially well on weak minds.

      • Cluster December 12, 2020 / 12:42 pm

        100% correct. The communist propagandists are working overtime to convince the gullible and the weak and they are succeeding. We need to start doxxing all media propagandists and politicians. Publish their home address’s and family members and never let them walk in peace again.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 2:08 pm

        Sorry, but I don’t play the Leftist games. Leave that kind of intimidation and bullying to the Left. We don’t need more Thought Police vigilantes punishing Thought Crimes. That is Lefty territory and best left to their own legacy, not ours.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 7:45 pm

        Cluster, read DB’s link: https://pjmedia.com/columns/lincolnbrown/2020/12/10/an-open-letter-to-a-young-woke-revolutionary-n1202559.

        This is what happens when people are targeted for what they believe.

        I’m all for making Libs miserable, but only by rubbing their faces in their own stupidity and the inevitable messes this creates.

        The Left tried to make us ashamed of voting for Trump, because he had committed adultery (so they voted for an adulterer) and they claimed he had been corrupt in his business practices (so they voted for a man guilty of corruption using his American political clout) and they said Trump was mentally deficient (so they voted for a man who introduced his granddaughter as his dead son) and so on. So I have no problem pointing out that while they lied about Trump to try to shame us he made life better for all of us and acted honorably as president, but they have sided with a man whose entire history in politics has been dishonorable and will make life worse for all but a few elites.

        But doxxing? No way. Personally harassing? No way. Threatening and intimidating? No way. That’s Stasi stuff.

      • Cluster December 12, 2020 / 8:04 pm

        Ok ok I’ll stop short of what the Khmer Rouge did lol but I never advocated violence so ease up. I do think media propagandists and the politicians who sell this country should be known and held accountable. Even Abe Lincoln put dishonest journalists in prison.

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 8:51 pm

        Now we’re getting closer to the same page.

        Like so many other aspects of life, our biggest strengths are also our biggest weaknesses. Freedom of speech bumps up against sedition—at what point does advocating for the destruction of our core governmental structure become illegal?

        I talk about making our oaths of office binding, and people come up with all sorts of reasons why this just wouldn’t work. But, just spitballing here—what if a Republican Congress were to pass a law saying that (1) any office which has an oath of office is required to keep it, and (2) this is now considered an employment contract. That is, violating it will result in losing the office and its associated benefits. What would that do to rein in some of the excesses we see now?

        The objections have been along the lines of “who would make the decision about what is and what is not a violation?” but I think most would be self-explanatory. If you have taken an oath to uphold the law and then you refuse to arrest people for breaking it, that is pretty clear. If you have taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and then you speak out, as Ilhan Omar has done, against it that is not ambiguous. More relevant to what we have seen lately in some state courts, if you have taken an oath as a judge to administer the law faithfully and then you ignore blatant violations of the law for political reasons you lose your job and your pension.

        Could there be abuses? Name a law, any law, that cannot be abused. But this would provide a vehicle for addressing offenses that would not run afoul of things like freedom of speech. At the very least, a judge or a D.A. or a police chief or a mayor or a governor would have to think twice about refusing to enact or enforce laws.

        As far as “journalism” goes, what we have seen is a total corruption of the very core of true journalism and the press blatantly used as election interference. I think laws against interfering in elections would provide at least some mechanism for punishment, and like “obstruction of justice” might sometimes be applied too harshly but would at least be a signpost that some things are not going to be tolerated. It’s like speed limits—they don’t stop everyone from speeding, but they do provide some control and those who do speed know they might get caught and the punishment might be severe. At least they are there, a reminder that there are rules even though a lot of people get away with breaking them.

      • dbschmidt December 13, 2020 / 12:09 am

        I would also like to remove the protections for Congress from outright lying in the house/senate wells.

  6. Amazona December 12, 2020 / 2:33 pm

    The Left is so giddy at the prospect of successfully stealing this election, maybe it’s time to take a look at what they got away with.

    First of all, they created an administration which will never have the acceptance or support of more than half of the nation. Joe can mouth all the platitudes he wants, but only the dumbest of the dumb will be saying and thinking “See? Joe is really a nice guy who only wants the best for this country.” The rest will be watching reality hit them in the face, and Biden reality is very very ugly.

    So what did the Left get? They got power, to some extent. That extent will depend a lot on how many votes they can steal in Georgia. And to steal those votes they will need some new tricks, because their old ones have been revealed and there will be a lot of eyes on how each and every ballot is handled.

    They got a token president who is so damaged in so many ways he is not even a good token. His legal baggage might not sink him before his mental decline does, but it will be a race to the bottom. I predict that the Right will develop a nationwide communication arm that will be relentlessly providing facts to the previously sheltered Democrat voter who was kept in the dark to protect his vote and who might, just MIGHT, resent being used that way. So what would this communication agency provide?

    On one hand, it will provide information on the Biden Crime Family—information on not just Hunter, but on the puppetmasters Joe and Jim who used him as a front for their international scheming and abuse of the power and status of the Vice Presidency. There’s a LOT of information there, several investigations ongoing and plenty of emails, smoking guns and even testimony. There is bribery, graft, money laundering, a plethora of illegal and unethical behaviors by the entire family, which has gotten rich from using Joe’s position and contacts.

    This will cover the fact that Joe Biden is fatally compromised by his relationships with Communist China—profiting from illicit business deals with them, receiving a five million dollar “loan” from them and giving them abundant information with which to control him. That is, our biggest enemy owns our president. That’s the kind of thing that might still bother some Dems. Not all of them, certainly, but some of them.

    On another hand there will be information on the moral turpitude of the Bidens, father and son, and the mutual support they have provided each other. This might be still photos of Joe with his hand on the breasts of little girls, videos of him pulling their heads or hands up against his crotch, and his dismissal of his daughter-in-law’s concerns about her 14-year-old daughter—-Joe’s own granddaughter—being molested by Hunter. It will definitely be information about Hunter posing in sexually suggestive poses with the topless Biden granddaughter in question, Hunter’s own niece. It will not only include information on Hunter having sex with children, as shown on his computer, but his involvement in international sex trafficking.

    And, of course, the cognitive decline of Biden, so carefully covered up by the Complicit Agenda Media.

    That is what they got when they rigged the election. Oh, and they also got Mattress-Back Kammy. She’s a whole long list of other problems, starting with her legal eligibility to even be vice president much less president.

    On top of all that will be a relentless expose of the corruption of our media and Big Tech, and their complicity in hiding facts from the voters so they could more easily be led by the nose into voting for their candidate.

    I predict that this will all lead to such a blowout in the 2024 election that any Republican running will walk away with a big win no matter how hard the Left works to rig that election. Control of Congress in 2022, which is pretty much a given considering what the voters will have learned in the two years leading up to it, will make it harder for the Left to steal another election, as I believe the Right will be so adamant in its election oversight that the Left will be hamstrung.

    • dbschmidt December 12, 2020 / 5:47 pm

      I certainly hope so. One thing is if Biden/Harris are seated then someone will have to push the NBC question threw the courts as soon as the are seated to take away the latches clause from Judges not wanting to do what their jobs. No matter what I will never consider them to be my President / Vice-President.

      Mark, CCP has already crushed Hong Kong and has turned its attention to Tiawan waiting for the outcome of this “election.”

      Finally, here is some real history for all of those soy boys, LARPers, New World Order folks, etc.

      An Open Letter to A Young Woke Revolutionary
      By Lincoln Brown

      https://pjmedia.com/columns/lincolnbrown/2020/12/10/an-open-letter-to-a-young-woke-revolutionary-n1202559

      • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 7:47 pm

        …someone will have to push the NBC question threw the courts as soon as the are seated … though if we do that Biden would probably just appoint Hillary as his new VP. No, I don't think letting time pass would make a difference regarding eligibility for the presidency. In fact, as there is no specific requirement to be vice president, it might not have standing unless she were to be made president.

    • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 7:50 pm

      Keep in mind, if we keep the Senate the Senate can investigate Hunter Biden’s crimes, which would of course involve Joe. The Senate has the ability to confer immunity on Hunter, meaning he couldn’t invoke the 5th because he would not be incriminating himself, so he would have to answer or go to jail. And refusing to answer would implicate Daddy.

    • Cluster December 13, 2020 / 8:05 am

      The Biden family is bought and paid for. Can you imagine the dirt China has on Hunter Biden?? Do you think Joe wants all that dirt to be public??

  7. dbschmidt December 12, 2020 / 10:33 pm

    Just occurred to me this afternoon what the political class is doing…basically it is like a football game where you realize it was a really bad call but everyone on one team scurries bad to the line of scrimmage to get the next play off before anyone can review the original play and outcome. Remember, there is only one date in the Constitution–21 Jan. The rest are arbitrary based on laws passed since then.

    • Amazona December 12, 2020 / 10:43 pm

      Good point, DB, and one the Left is trying to obscure with all its “president-elect” noise.

  8. dbschmidt December 12, 2020 / 11:03 pm

    One of the many things that really pisses me off about our government is the lack of trust and information in and given to the American population. I can type this now because of the 10pm curfew in NC and I guess I am safe in the knowledge that out Governor knows that this virus only attacks after 10 pm.

    Release the information and not the GIGO (Garbage In ~ Garbage Out) crap reported nightly. Real data. Who/how many died from Covid-19 (primary), how many died with Covid-19 (secondary), How many are hospitalized because of Covid-19 and those with Covid-19. How many ICU beds total and occupied under the aforementioned conditions–not percentages. I can keep going but you get the gist. It is all garbage and power in the hands of mostly Dimmicrats. I will bring up the 2009 H1N1 Pandemic (H1N1pdm09 virus) that even Pres. Obama cabinet members stated they were lucky it wasn’t deadlier. It effected the young whereas the older population had resistance due to an earlier version.

    From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus. Just remember the word: LUCKY because the one everyone on the left claims is compassionate was in charge (VP) and clueless in a similar situation…maybe with the exception he could find his way out of the basement back then. CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases then versus 7 million now.

    Just tell the American people the truth and let us decide. If you want to hide in your basement till the end of time curled up in a blankie for a seasonal flu that has a 99.995% survival rate–knock yourself out. Just leave me alone. I would be heading to a free country state like Arizona, Wyoming or S. Dakota if I could tolerate the weather. Still researching how Airstream can do in the snow/ice even here in NC. Even I am smart enough to avoid California.

    I am starting to believe that the “One World” folks are doing this to make the sheeple reliant on Gobermment more so than they are now but underestimated the total count of Americans. One of the primary reasons Japan did not attack America. Soros has already corrupted and collapsed 4 countries and would not put it past him to try this one as well. At least we should be able to “control” Canada by letting them know if they screw up–we will send Micheal Moore back to them broke & begging 🙂

    • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 12:09 pm

      Wyoming’s not so bad. It does get cold here in the winter, but it’s not cold all the time, and the dry air and sunshine make it a lot more tolerable. I was colder at 45 degrees in Fort Worth than I ever have been at zero here. It’s cold now but we just ended a streak of 50 degree weather–again, with the sun shining people didn’t even wear jackets.

      For those of us who were born in the West, humidity is a lot harder to deal with than cold. Humidity drives cold right into your bones and makes summers absolutely miserable, and leads to things like ice storms, which we just don’t have out here. We have fluffy snow. Not to say it’s all easy peasy—the wind can be brutal, but it doesn’t blow all the time. I’m tucked in a little valley where we only have bad wind when it comes from the NW and even then it isn’t awful. I just don’t drive when the roads are bad, and Wyoming is excellent at road clearing.

      The best climate I ever experienced was in Santa Fe, New Mexico. We had winter for three months a year, but it was crisp and dry. It might break 90 a few days in the summer, but again, it was crisp and dry. The problem is that New Mexico, especially Santa Fe and Taos, have attracted way too many Libs from California and New York.

      You might be interested in Texas. I am kind of looking into a warm weather place for three or four months a year, and south Texas has some nice lakes and decent weather, except in the summer when it is a sauna.

      • dbschmidt December 13, 2020 / 1:03 pm

        Have friends in all the places I mentioned except SD. One is now in Plano just outside DFW in Texas. His weather is worse than mine. Plus, now with the likes of Oracle and Goldman Sachs moving to Texas and Florida–how long before they go all blue.

      • Cluster December 13, 2020 / 2:58 pm

        Flathead Valley in Montana!! If you survive the winters you’ll love the summers

      • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 7:51 pm

        Yeah, but that is true for a lot of places in the Rockies—though I hear the lake is spectacular.

      • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 7:50 pm

        We once spent Christmas in England and scheduled our return flight through DFW so we could spend a few days near Dallas to visit old friends. We got hit by an ice storm as we were landing and spent three full days holed up in a hotel in Dallas, never did get to see our friends, never got to do or see anything. We had never seen an ice storm and it was not a great experience. When we finally got a cab to go to the airport we could look down at the lines on the highway through at least two inches of clear ice, like on a hockey arena. No thanks. I’ll take snow any time.

        I would brag about Colorado weather but Colorado is in a death spiral right now and no one knows if it will get turned around, or when. We used to have a Monday Night Football game every September and every time we would have a blizzard, which we loved because it scared people away. Of course, the next day it would be 60 degrees and we might not see snow till Christmas. When I wore suits to work I had two or three with heavier jackets and as long as it was sunny (and Denver has more sunshine days than San Diego) I never had to wear a coat. With a scarf and gloves I was fine.

        I had looked forward to spending winters in Denver, and worked hard to get my old house rebuilt, but the city has gone so far downhill I just don’t want to be there any more. As I said, it is turning into East Portland.

        I’ve thought about Arkansas, and some talk show host last week was talking about cities that want to grow and offer cash incentives to people to move there. He mentioned Tulsa, which I hear is very nice. I like rowing and fishing so a lake is a must.

      • Retired Spook December 13, 2020 / 1:14 pm

        The problem is that New Mexico, especially Santa Fe and Taos, have attracted way too many Libs from California and New York.

        Must be something in Liberals’ DNA that leads them to take something nice and screw it up. To want to escape the disfunction in California and New York only to replant it somewhere else just has to be a mental defect. I can’t imagine any other explanation.

        In terms of weather, Indiana is a nice compromise. We sometimes get harsh winters, but they’re the exception rather than the rule. The last really bad winters were back to back in 2012/13 and 2013/14 when we had a combined 35 days or so of below zero. In 2012/13 we had around 20 days below zero, and half of them were double digits below zero, plus 75 inches of snow, the most in nearly half a century. This winter, by contrast has been exceptionally nice with 3 distinct Indian Summers, 5 consecutive days in early November in the 70’s, followed by 3 consecutive days right before Thanksgiving in the mid 60’s followed by 4 consecutive days ending yesterday in the low to mid 50’s. So far this winter we’ve had less than an inch of snow. This past summer was one of the nicest in recent memory; lower than normal humidity with the majority of days in the range of high 70’s to high 80’s. I think our high for the summer was maybe 92 or 93, and we only hit 90 a handful of times. The nicest thing about Indiana, though, is that it’s rated as one of the most free states in the country. We were the first state in the country to offer a lifetime license to carry (open or concealed).

  9. Cluster December 13, 2020 / 8:11 am

    DB, the “one world government” is a very real and alarming construct so be vigilant. They’ve been working on this for 30 years.

    If the pedophile and commie slut are installed, the next 4 years are going to be violent and messy

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/chaos-dc-antifa-attacking-trump-supporters-fireworks-mace-thousands-proud-boys-patrolling-streets-videos/

    I might advise the Democrats to “refund” the police because it may be the only protection they have over the next 4 years. Patriotic Americans will not stop and Democrats will soon learn who the silent majority is, and how difficult it is to govern pissed off, well armed, free people.

    • Retired Spook December 13, 2020 / 11:11 am

      the next 4 years are going to be violent and messy

      The Left has owned violence as a political tactic for most of my life, but , in spite of all the practice the’ve had, they’re really not very good at it. I’m reminded of this scene from The Untouchables

      • Cluster December 13, 2020 / 11:18 am

        YES !! We need that kind of resolve

      • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 9:02 pm

        Dan Bongino was talking on his podcast about what Los Angeles is going to be like under new DA Gascone, and it ain’t going to be pretty. It’s one thing to simply not prosecute basic crimes being committed by people already in L.A. but he pointed out that L.A. will become a magnet for criminals, attracting new criminals who want to take advantage of the lax laws. He was a cop in New York when Rudy Giuliani took over and he talked about his theory of prosecuting every crime no matter how small, and how that had such a dramatic impact on bigger crimes.

      • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 9:07 pm

        Last week I was waiting to get my oil changed and had a good conversation with a guy doing the same thing. He is a cop, and we talked about “police brutality”—I said that my attitude is the same about cops as it is about civilians, which is that if someone is posing a credible and serious threat to me or someone else “brutality” is the most appropriate response. He said his philosophy, and what he taught young cops, was to meet violence with the same level of violence—plus one. Not plus five, not plus ten, just plus one—but that plus one could be extremely violent, depending on the actions of the other guy.

        I thought that was a very succinct approach controlled but with the freedom to escalate depending on the other party.

  10. Cluster December 13, 2020 / 9:34 am

    Next time you’re lectured about “equality” by immoral corporatists, keep this in mind:

    On Saturday, disgruntled employees at an iPhone manufacturing plant in India ransacked the facility over unpaid wages.

    At least 2,000 employees at the Narsapura plant of Wistron Corporation, a Taiwan-based company that manufactures devices for Apple, “went on a rampage destroying the company’s furniture, assembly units and even attempted to set fire to vehicles,” according to The Times of India.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/massive-riot-breaks-out-india-iphone-factory-over-unpaid-wages

  11. Cluster December 13, 2020 / 9:44 am

    We have a communist fish head infestation problem ….

    “A major leak containing a register with the details of nearly two million CCP members has occurred – exposing members who are now working all over the world, while also lifting the lid on how the party operates under Xi Jinping, says Sharri Markson. … Communist party branches have been set up inside western companies, allowing the infiltration of those companies by CCP members – who, if called on, are answerable directly to the communist party, to the Chairman, the president himself,”

    No doubt that Facebook, Twitter, and Google are compromised, and the Biden’s are compromised if not the entire Democrat Party, so now it’s just a matter of finding out who else and holding them accountable.

    A Purge is needed.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001?fbclid=IwAR3zgyjdlf4KKPFstiJAzTcR9bQQd-8AUfGfPaL0rAT9g4CwvwxaN8KM3t0

    • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 8:58 pm

      The Bidens are basically owned by China

      • simoneee9 December 13, 2020 / 11:03 pm

        The same China that has rented out an entire floor of Trump Tower since 2008? The same China that granted Ivanka Trump patents the same night she met with Xi?

      • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 11:11 pm

        What’s your point?

      • Cluster December 14, 2020 / 5:51 am

        The CCP’s tentacles run much deeper then we all are aware of:

        A major leak containing a register with the details of nearly two million CCP members has occurred – exposing members who are now working all over the world, while also lifting the lid on how the party operates under Xi Jinping, says Sharri Markson.

        Big Tech, the Media, Hollywood, Academia, and the Democrat Party are all owned by China

        https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001

  12. simoneee9 December 13, 2020 / 11:02 pm

    Sidney Powell and Lin Davis are now calling on POTUS to implement martial law. WTF.

    • Amazona December 13, 2020 / 11:11 pm

      Do you think they should be silenced?

      • crewman4238 December 14, 2020 / 4:03 am

        Do you think the president should declare martial law?

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 10:43 am

        Do you think the president should declare martial law?

        Do you think Powell and this “Lin Davis” (sic) have the power to do anything but express their opinions? Why do you care? Do you think they should be silenced?

      • crewman4238 December 14, 2020 / 3:06 pm

        No one suggested she be silenced, Amazona. Only you have raised that question.

        As to why we care, she was until recently a lawyer of the president of the United States. People like you listen to, and give credence, to her cockamamie theories. And if the president does, it could have a direct impact on me and everyone else in the United States. So yeah, forgive me for caring.

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 8:53 pm

        Oh yes, you care. You care so deeply. But this is one person expressing one opinion. One other person seems to agree with her. Zounds! Gadzooks! Crisis in the making! Why, the crewboy cares so much, it is almost as much as he cared about people wanting to kill the president! And we all remember the deep deep distress, the abject and nearly disabling CARING he exhibited then.

        Or not.

        But you just go on caring. Care, and fuss, and fret, over something that someone said that got your panties in a twist, and then when you are tired of caring about that you can care that no one else cares how much you care.

        As for asking of you think Powell should be silenced, it is a natural question given the distress you evidently have been experiencing due to what she said. And it is the default response by the Left to anything you/they don’t like hearing.

  13. Cluster December 14, 2020 / 9:00 am

    Martial Law? IMO Trump rightfully won this election so any action he took, I would support. And if I ran things, there would be a lot more happening beginning with putting media propagandists in prison and publicly detailing the financials of every elected politician and suspending their obligations until they are fully vetted.

    America is now comprised of American Patriots and Traitors. Know who they are. A friend of mine posted this on social media and I couldn’t agree more:

    For those who don’t get it!
    Now you understand why there was never any action against the Clintons or Obama, how they destroyed emails and evidence and phones and servers, how they spied and wiretapped, how they lied to FISA, had conversations on the tarmac, sent emails to cover their asses after key meetings, how Comey and Brennan and Clapper never were brought to any justice, how the FBI and CIA lied, how the Steele Dossier was passed along, how phones got factory reset, how leak after leak to an accomplice media went unchecked, why George Soros is always in the shadows, why Romney and Paul and Bush and McCain were all involved, why they screamed Russia and pushed a sham impeachment, why no one ever goes to jail, why no one is ever charged, why nothing ever happens.
    Why there was no wrongdoing in the FISA warrants, why the Durham report was delayed. Why Hunter will walk scott free.
    Why the FBI sat on the laptop.
    Why the Biden’s connection to China was overlooked as was unleashed the perfect weapon, a virus that could be weaponized politically to bring down the greatest ever economy and usher in unverifiable mail in voting.
    Why the media is 24/7 propaganda and lies, why up is down and down is up, right is wrong and wrong is right.
    Why social media silences the First Amendment and speaks over the President of the United States.
    This has been the plan by the Deep State all along. They didn’t expect Trump to win in 2016. He messed up their plans. Delayed it a little. They weren’t about to let it happen again.
    Covid was weaponized, Governors helped shut down their states, the media helped shame and kill the economy, and the super lucky unverifiable mail in ballots were just the trick to make sure the career politician allegedly with hands in Chinese payrolls that couldn’t finish a sentence or collect a crowd, miraculously became the most popular vote recipient of all time.
    You have just witnessed a coup, the overthrow of the US free election system, the end of our constitutional republic, and the merge of capitalism into the slide toward socialism.
    What will happen next?
    Expect the borders to open up. Increased immigration.
    Expect agencies like CBP and INS and Homeland Security to be muzzled or even deleted.
    Law enforcement will see continued defunding.
    The electoral college will be gone.
    History erased.
    Two Supreme Court Justices might be removed. The Supreme Court will be packed.
    Your 2nd Amendment will be attacked.
    If you have a manufacturing job or oil industry job, get ready.
    If you run a business, brace for impact.
    Maybe you’ll be on the hook for slavery reparations, or have your suburbs turned into Section 8 housing.
    Your taxes are gonna go up, and businesses will pay more. I could go on and on. There is no real recovery from this.
    The elections from here on will be decided by New York City, Chicago, and California. The Republic will be dead. Mob rule and appeasement will run rampant.
    The candidate who offers the most from the Treasury will get the most votes. But the votes voted won’t matter, just the ones received and counted. That precedent has been set.
    “Benjamin Franklin was walking out of Independence Hall after the Constitutional Convention in 1787, when someone shouted out, ‘Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?’”
    Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”
    Ladies and gentlemen, you will now lose your Republic.
    You turned from God.
    You turned from family.
    You turned from country.
    You embraced degeneracy culture.
    You celebrated and looked to fools.
    You worshiped yourselves selfishly as you took for granted what men died to give you.
    You disregarded history and all it teaches.
    On your watch, America just died a little. It’s likely she’ll never be the same again.
    Some of you have no idea what you’ve done. Sadly, some of you did.

  14. Cluster December 14, 2020 / 9:34 am

    If someone has the shot on Gates, I encourage them to take it. Somebody needs to eliminate him from the playing field (sorry Amazona). Gates and Soros are the two most dangerous men in the world

    Bill Gates offered his predictions during an interview on Sunday as the US set new records for new cases, hospitalizations and deaths over a seven-day period. ‘Sadly the next four to six months could be the worst of the epidemic,’ Gates said before signalling his support for lockdowns. ‘Bars and restaurants in most of the country will be closed as we go into this wave, and I think sadly that’s appropriate,’ he said. The billionaire Microsoft founder went on to say he thinks the US will become more ‘normal’ by next summer under President-elect Joe Biden’s leadership.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 11:50 am

      Cluster, removing Gates would not change anything. He is explaining the goal of the Left and if more than half of the nation finds this goal appealing then the minority won’t be able to stop them.

      So we have to look at the half that supposedly wants the outcomes Gates, Biden, et al want to impose. And I guarantee that half of the country does not want these outcomes. So why did enough of them vote for them to give the Left the talking point that more than 80 million people want higher taxes, a plummeting economy, open borders, a one-party system, arming Iran, the finalization of the destruction of the judicial system and submission to China?

      This is where you get to the problem: they didn’t. They voted to get rid of Trump. Period. The alternatives were cleverly and effectively hidden from them, as we see when polls learn that a full 36% of those voting “for Biden” had never heard any details of the Hunter Biden scandal, and that a significant number of those people would not have voted for Biden if they had known.

      So is the problem really Bill Gates? He is just an elite who wants to be the elite of elites, one of those at the top of the Leftist food chain, free from the restrictions and tyrannies imposed on the rest of the nation and enjoying the power of forcing people to do what he thinks THEY should. Every supporter of Leftist tyranny believes that he or she will be one of those left standing, and history has shown us that often they end up in the gulags or the work farms with the people they helped enslave.

      No, the problem is that the element of our society charged with informing the public is lying to the public, and too many of the public are not aware that they are being lied to so they make disastrous decisions based on that false information.

      The Right has stood by and watched this incursion into the hearts and minds of Americans and either ignored it or flapped its hands impotently and bleated that they just didn’t know what to do about it. So now we need to quit whining about the inevitable results of this inability to fight back on the real battleground—the Information Battleground—and figure out how to get into the fight.

      We’re pretty much into the Epidemic Mode of thinking, so think of this as an Ignorance Epidemic. And the vaccine is simple—it is Truth.

      Ignore the personality disorder poster boys like crewman and simon and travesty—they have no real dog in the hunt, they just like to bicker. Bickering is the inflatable doll equivalent of actual political discourse—it’s a poor substitute for the real thing, but all they can hope to achieve.. It is possible that they are actual subversive trolls, sent out to infiltrate paths of communication among people immune to the Ignorance Flu but because they aren’t very good at it it is more likely that they and others like them have latched onto the internet as a way to have pretend discussions, just as they probably have pretend sex. Read the Comments section of many blogs and you will see these incels coming out from the woodwork to dump their pathologies on the blogs. They are inconsequential. The Left recruits personality disorders and validates them to gain cannon fodder, but they are just the kind of noise the Left needs to hide what it is really up to.

      People like Gates are more consequential, because they are the Useful Idiots the Left needs for funding.

      But the strength of this nation still exists, though much of it is buried under the vast piles of mental excrement about half of the nation has accepted as fact, as news, as the kind of thing they should base their decisions on. When more than a third of the people who actually did vote for Biden admit that they only did it because they did not have the truth, facts, at hand. that tells us that truth and facts are what we need to win this war, not assassinations.

      There are already efforts to provide truth to the people, bypassing the powerhouses of Google and Fakebook and You Tube and Twitter. We have Parler, we have Rumble, and we have talented people already doing work-arounds to bleed off some of the power these giants have accumulated. These subversive giants which have been so effective at undermining the culture and intellect of America depend on the same vehicle that can provide opposition to them, because they can’t completely control the Internet. There are grass-roots efforts like the Daily Wire, putting together all sorts of media, and some very bright and motivated people who have the ability to put together the kind of messaging we need. As I have said, if 70 million people who wanted Trump to be president all donate a dollar a month, we would have a war chest of about 850 million dollars to fund an information outreach program.

      • Cluster December 14, 2020 / 12:08 pm

        Gates and Soros have the money, power, and influence to impose their ideology on the masses, and they do to the detriment of working class people across the globe. Together they are piecing together a one world government via mass immigration, open borders, relaxing criminal codes, and catering to despots.

        They are the embodiment of evil

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 12:47 pm

        There are several ways to “impose their ideology”—one is through incrementally brainwashing people not to accept an ideology as much as reject an Invented Other and one is through force.

        So far Soros, Gates, et al are working to just get people to go along with what they want, without any real effort to engage a real commitment to an ideology. I have commented on this many many times over the years (prompting hooting from the Usual Suspects about my “political philosophy”), pointing out that the vast majority of those who support and enable the Left do so without the slightest hint of the ideology of the system they are supporting. I think this is an extremely important thing to remember.

        True ideologues are committed, heart and soul, to their ideology. It is a matter of faith to them, immovable and immutable. However, there are very very few of these.

        The next tier down is the level of participation that is committed to what they believe would be the outcome of this ideology if “properly” executed—they think that their emotional goals of “fairness” and “equality” and so on could be achieved if the framework of the Leftist ideology would be imposed, but they really haven’t thought it through enough to be truly familiar with the ideology itself. With them, it is more a matter of Magical Thinking than actual knowledge of and commitment to a formal organized ideology. While inherently superficial in nature, this is still a powerful concept, and if you want to get all metaphysical you can see that at its heart lies the belief in great personal power, the power to make everything perfect. There is a huge ego element here.

        Combine both of these groups and you have a voting bloc that would show up in statistics but would not swing an election.

        What swings elections is the vast majority of people who vote for the Left for a variety of what are really superficial and even frivolous reasons, most of them enabled by sheer laziness. These are people without a true intellectual compass, so they can watch Leftist propaganda “entertainment” and absorb the messaging that a Republican president is a moron or that conservatives are kooks without questioning the validity or the source. These are intellectual sponges which just absorb what is fed to them and then make what they believe are “decisions” but which are really directed actions, directed by the propagandists. They are shallow. They think “I have a degree and that means I am smart” and “I want good things for people so that means I am moral” and that’s about where everything stops—except for the acceptance of the obverse: “If I am smart and someone doesn’t think the way I do that means he is stupid” or “If someone doesn’t agree with my concept of what will make peoples’ lives better that means he doesn’t care if they get better”.

        THAT is what swings elections—the either/or assumptions of the intellectually and morally lazy. They are powerful, they are controlling, and they are encapsulated in an ever-hardening shell that is hard to crack because letting it be penetrated would mean challenging some basic internal concepts of identity. Letting in some doubt about the intelligence of accepting lies when a little research would show the truth can be very threatening. Admitting that merely being FOR something that sounds and feels morally superior is not really BEING morally superior is unsettling to an identity which is based on a sense of occupancy of a Higher Moral Ground. So a lot of what we might think of as “ideology” is really protectiveness of a cherished identity concept. And here lies the sheer genius of the Left—its grasp of human nature and its understanding of how to manipulate it.

        What creates and feeds and reinforces these protective shells of self-delusion? You can point to Soros and other funders but it really comes down to the messaging, subtle or overt, blasted at these people day in and day out, in sitcoms and movies and “news” stories. This messaging works to a great extent because it is not balanced with alternative messaging.

        The thing is, that ego thing works both ways. Some people resent being lied to and manipulated, and these are the people we need to approach with the messaging that they have been handled, have been callously steered into taking actions that are not only against their own self interest but which show them to be easily led. 36% of Biden voters admit that they did not know much if anything about the Hunter Biden scandal—-at least some of these people might resent being herded into a Biden vote through deception. A lot of them said they would not have voted for Biden if they had known.

        These people are telling us what we need to know about undermining the stranglehold the Left has on the American public. And no, it is not knocking off figureheads. It is opening up those cracks in the shells of assumed knowledge and showing people that they have been lied to, manipulated and led to taking actions that are against their own self interests and those of the nation.

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 12:58 pm

        Think of the message in Don Quixote—-he was passionately convinced of the utter sanity and rightness of his actions, in spite of all the efforts of others to change his mind. What worked was the clear reflection of himself, what he himself could see that others had been seeing all along.

        I think our approach should be to provide the mirrors of clarity and honesty in which Democrat voters can see what we already see about them—their gullibility, their frivolous approach to politics by making it all about Identity and not about ideology, their propensity to be easily led and therefore treated like livestock being harvested for their votes. One way to do this is to stop using phrases the Left can sanitize and make toothless, such as the word “socialism”. I think we should start using descriptive wording—“I know you voted for the Democrat ticket. Can you explain to me why you think concentrating power and authority in the hands of a few is the best way to govern the country?” That’s a hard question to answer. If you just say “Why do you think socialism will work?” you will hear “Sweden” and then get sucked into bickering about what Sweden’s true political system is (and no, it is NOT socialism) and how well it works and what is contributing to its failures and it won’t take long at all to be arguing about things that are not about our own political system and future.

        What we need to do is strip away the protective cloaking of Leftist ideology and at the same time goad people into realizing they have been lied to so the Left can control them.

      • Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 12:25 pm

        Together they are piecing together a one world government via mass immigration, open borders, relaxing criminal codes, and catering to despots.

        And the irony is that they claim to be doing so “for the greater good,” and no one from a national or international platform ever asks them how any of that will result in a “good” outcome.

        I overheard a couple women at the Y the other day. I got just enough of the conversation to know they were talking about the election. One of them said, “I just want to get back to normal.” I almost laughed out loud to think that anyone believes we’re headed toward “normal.”

      • Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 1:45 pm

        I’m sure he doesn’t think of it as “evil,” but Bill Gates has been behind global initiatives that really can’t be described any other way. He’s a member of a rather small club that believes the only way earth survives is to drastically reduce the global population. But, of course, THEY will not be among those who are reduced.

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:54 pm

        You will notice that while paying lip service to the needs of the planet the Gates family is not inviting people to share their 66,000+ square foot home in Washington State or their $43 million Del Mar mansion or their lavish horse property in Florida. No, they are royalty who sit on their thrones and dictate from on high how the Little People are supposed to live.

        And, like other egomaniacs, they also think that eliminating large populations of human beings will in some way benefit them. Shades of Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, and so on. Funny, isn’t it, how the same thread of reducing inconvenient populations runs through so many theories of powerful people?

  15. Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 12:05 pm

    Bickering is the inflatable doll equivalent of actual political discourse—it’s a poor substitute for the real thing, but all they can hope to achieve.

    LOL!!!! What a great visual. OK, maybe “great” is not exactly the word. More like appropos.

  16. Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 12:56 pm

    Kurt Schlichter takes a humorous look at secession.

    Still, the blue checks talk a big game about the blue states living without us, but you can’t grow enough kale in the garden box outside your NYC apartment’s window to survive no matter how skinny your jeans are. And when the rulers of the blue states realize that they sacrificed their ability to generate energy, and thus run their Teslas and fuel their pedo express jets, on the altar of the climate hoax, they’ll be sad. If you could eat and power stuff with undeserved smugness, they’d be all set. But they can’t.

    • Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 1:10 pm

      And Scott Morefield takes a more serious look at secession.

      A national split in my lifetime would be an awful, painful thing to see, even if it happened without bloodshed. It would, however, be far preferable to living under a Democratic Socialist, one-party state. While most Americans right now truly aren’t wishing for any sort of hot OR cold civil war, national divorce, or even peaceful separation, it’s hard not to see something along those lines on the horizon if things keep going the way they’re going. Admitting this isn’t ‘treason,’ it’s reality.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:20 pm

      Schlichter does have a way of letting the hot air out of a Leftist fantasy balloon, doesn’t he?

      But, since it is all a fantasy anyway, let’s play with it. Let’s split into three countries: Left Coast, Heartland and Northeast. But let’s go further: Let’s have diplomatic relations established, where things like visa requirements and more to the point economic relations are hammered out.

      The Left thinks the Heartland could not survive without its lettuce and artichokes and avocados. But the Heartland, freed from the economic shackles of the Left, could generate enough electricity to heat vast swaths of greenhouses, and it is populated by the kinds of people who can grow a lot of their own food.

      Let President AOC of the Northeast lecture people on how they can grow “yucca” in their own back yards (back yards not really being all that common in much of the Northeast) and then bump up against the hard facts of yucca not only not being a very palatable food for a lot of people but being a desert plant not very compatible with cold NE winters. Which would, by the way, be very cold unless a trade agreement could be hammered out making the fuel oil from the Heartland affordable.

      Re-route the power lines from the existing solar and wind farms back into the Heartland and let the coastal nations make their own wind turbines and solar panels. It wouldn’t be long before flying over the West Coast at night would look like flying over darkened North Korea. Let Colorado force the Left Coast to renegotiate its water agreements and in the meantime cut off the Colorado River from making survival in Los Angeles possible. Keeping that water out of California and using it to create agriculture in the deserts of Utah and Nevada would solve that whole food problem and leave California to wither and die.

      When the Lefty trolls brag about the economic power of the coastal states, they don’t realize how much of that “economy” is in service-oriented businesses, not in production. And what production there is can be replicated in the Heartland, where people know how to work and where energy is cheap and plentiful.

      California can become a new Williamsburg, a museum of what used to be compared to what is now. But the first thing the Heartland should do is develop a stringent immigration policy, making immigrants from California and New York ineligible to vote for ten years and only allowed to relocate if they can show good work skills so they can be productive. Dem voters would automatically be excluded from immigration.

  17. crewman4238 December 14, 2020 / 1:13 pm

    So, Amazona, do you think the president should declare martial law? (You didn’t answer the question.)

    I see that Cluster does think so, simple because, in his opinion, Trump won the election. In other words, it doesn’t matter how Americans voted, conservatives just want their guy in power, period. Yet another example of how un-American you all are.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:24 pm

      Actually, Mr. Bickerson, Cluster’s point of view is based on respect for how Americans voted and rejection of the manipulation of the process to create the illusion that the country actually does want a Biden/Harris one-party nation without borders, without a functioning judiciary and with rigid top-down control over its people.

      What is un-American is support for a corrupt process designed to seat a corrupt figurehead for a radical Leftist regime.

      But back to my question: Do you think Powell, Cluster and others should be silenced? That is, not allowed to express their opinions or the facts supporting them? Yes or no. You keep dodging the question.

      • crewman4238 December 14, 2020 / 3:13 pm

        Do you think Powell, Cluster and others should be silenced?

        Answered above. You’re the only one who has raised the question of whether she (and now Cluster) should be silenced. Do you think people should be allowed to ridicule her for spouting baseless conspiracy theories? Also, I must say, it is rich of you to imply that other posters her think she should be silenced when you yourself engage in deleting posts on this blog that you don’t like or are unable to respond to. Anyway, as far as Cluster goes, his point of view is devoid of fact and based on nothing more than emotion.

        Meanwhile, including Trump’s losses in court over the weekend and today, he is 1-for-59 in court. Amazona previously explained to us that losing all these court cases is actually part of a grand strategy to eventually win them. How’s that going for you, Amazona?

      • Cluster December 14, 2020 / 8:20 pm

        No crewboy, you raised the specter of silencing people by questioning the validity of any argument, but your alinsky tactic is noted and despised. And for the record it is Democrats who attempt to silence all debate over the manufactured issues of racism and climate change because if those issues were honestly debated, you would be proven to be frauds.

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 9:05 pm

        First, I do love your delusion that I am the boss of everything and that I control the blog. Perhaps your source of inside information didn’t know as much as he evidently convinced you he did. But you just cling to your paranoia—it is obviously more gratifying that acknowledging that many if not all of your posts are worthless garbage and that the most appropriate place for them is the trash. I understand that after a lifetime of people conveying this message to you in one way or other, from ignoring to shunning and probably more than a few swirlies you have developed a very thick skin and are so used to being rejected you just snap to your default excuses for it. Not my problem.

        As for your right and ability to ridicule Sidney Powell, well, Sparky, you just go right ahead and ridicule to your little heart’s content. As soon as you finish your care-athon you can start your ridicule-athon. Go for it. Wallow in it, celebrate it, glory in it.

        You can even continue your lies that the concerns of Ms. Powell and many millions of others are “baseless”. If that’s what it takes to soothe you, then stick with that delusion, too. I’ll bet dictionary dot com has redefined that word for you delicate little snowflakes, too, after obediently redefining words terms like “court packing” and “sexual preference” to meet your unending emotional needs.

        Out here in the real world we realize that blatant violations of various constitutions, videos of people breaking election laws, statistical anomalies that can only be explained by manipulating either ballots or machine tallies and so on actually do constitute “bases” for understanding that the election was rigged. And that doesn’t even go into the media hiding facts from the public to help Joe’s chances of being dragged across the finish line.

        I know you love your little talking points, like “baseless” but the word means “without a base” and the bases for so many hundreds of documented frauds are so solid only activist judges put in place to protect such frauds could have allowed this to get as far as it has.

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 9:19 pm

        To the silly bleating that concerns of election fraud are “baseless”—here is a base.

        ASOG is a group of globally engaged professionals who come from various disciplines to include Department of Defense, Secret Service, Department of Homeland Security, and the Central Intelligence Agency. It provides a range of security services, but has a particular emphasis on cybersecurity, open source investigation and penetration testing of networks. We employ a wide variety of cyber and cyber forensic analysts. We have patents pending in a variety of applications from novel network security applications to SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) protection and safe browsing solutions for the dark and deep web.

        A main conclusion from the report:

        T]he Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.

        This is a press release regarding the report: emphasis mine

        This morning, hours in advance of state legislatures meeting to approve the selection of presidential electors, Judge Kevin Elsenheimer of the 13th Circuit Court of Michigan authorized the release a forensic audit of voting machines at the heart of a lawsuit, William Bailey v. Antrim County, Michigan. The 68% error rates for vote calculations by the Dominion systems are astoundingly outside the Federal Election Committee requirements that election systems must have an error rate no larger than 0.0008%.

        And, in case you have lost track of the bases in just this one report. here is a summary:

        1. General:

        There was a 68% error rate in the votes cast – the Federal Election Committee allowable rate is 0.0008%
        There was an 81.96% rejection rate in the votes cast – these were sent to Adjudication
        The Adjudication files for 2020 were missing, which violates state law
        The Security records for the election software were missing – which violates state law – these also contain the internet connection records
        The election software was changed inside the 90-day Safe Harbor window, which is forbidden by state law – this automatically decertifies the results
        Standard security protocols were not followed – software systems were out of date by years, creating a provable security risk
        All Counties in Michigan are required to operate with the same software to guarantee consistent treatment of voters – so errors in the Antrim County software system are determinative of identical errors across the state due to the requirement to use the same software everywhere
        The Secretary of State directed the County Clerks on December 1, 2020, throughout Michigan to delete all of their electronic election records for 2020 by December 8, 2020, violation of Michigan state law MCL 168.811 requiring retention of voting records for 22 months

        2. Evidence of Intentional Fraud and Corruption of the Voting Machines

        This is the evidence that Dominion Voting machines can and are being manipulated
        This is not human error as we have proven
        Secretary Benson lied
        Federal Law was violated – the election records were destroyed
        This is a Cover-up of voting crimes
        Records were missing in violation of the legal requirements for retention
        These records exist in this county for previous elections, but not 2020
        Security records are missing – including the record of internet access to the machines
        Adjudication records do not exist – there is no ability to tell who or how or to where the “Adjudicated” votes were moved
        An Administrator reviews votes sent to Adjudication and then can vote them as the wish – no oversight, no transparency, no record, no accountability
        68% of votes were switched in this county in error – FEC rules only allow a .0008% error rate
        81% of the votes were voted by an Administrator – not by the VOTER
        The Voter’s choice was not voted by the voter – intervention happened and votes were moved
        The same Ballots were run it three times and produced three different results
        Laws have been Broken
        A Cover-up is Happening regarding the voting machines in Michigan
        We fought this for the Voters of Michigan whose votes were not accurately counted – we are here for the integrity of the voting process and the will of the People
        Republicans and Democrats alike had their votes manipulated – all voters were impacted and we must defend their voting rights

        3. Conclusions:

        Based on the violation of law, these election results cannot be certified in Antrim County
        The vast amount of fraud in the votes here demands a review of the votes throughout Michigan
        Security on the Dominion machines was practically non-existent – this is not a secure result
        These same Dominion machines were used throughout Michigan, and the results must be discounted until all Dominion machines can be reviewed for fraudulent vote manipulation
        The other 48 counties have been required to use the same certified software – the error rate is a given
        Michigan cannot certify for Biden
        This is a seditious conspiracy to undermine the election process and the will of the American people

        There you go, Sparky—-enough bases for a whole decade of World Series games. First, Second, Third and Home. And this is only one county. In one state that used the same Dominion system.

        Too many bases? Well, here is a good one. 81% OF THE VOTES WERE VOTED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR—–NOT BY THE VOTER.

  18. Cluster December 14, 2020 / 1:21 pm

    I am not convinced enough people are seeing the good and the EVIL that currently resides in this world. I don’t consider elite leftists to be human anymore. I don’t believe their intentions are good or noble and I have no interest in any dialogue with them any longer. I also don’t consider myself to have anymore insight than the average person or to be an extremist in way shape or form for harboring these thoughts. I think we are being tested and if we don’t confront the evil that is right in front of us, I think we may be judged harshly.

    This isn’t a battle of left vs right any longer. This is good vs evil. Just my two cents.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:36 pm

      Dan Bongino talks at length about the bifurcation of the nation, but he casts it in intellectual terms. His version is smart vs dumb, which I have to agree with.

      My definition is one of a division based on character. While I think it comes down to is those who live in the shadows of the lies of the Left and those who stand in the light of the truth. There is a character element in having the courage and morality to WANT the truth, and to accept it when it is laid out and it is this lack of character that I think is going to be the final dividing point. We are not there yet because these people have not been challenged by presenting the truth through venues that can reach them so we have not yet seen which side of the divide they will choose once they have the information they need to make that final decision.

      A perfect example is this election. We have literally hundreds of incontrovertible evidence of wrongdoing, ranging from unconstitutional last minute changes to election laws to counting ballots without supervision to accepting ballots without signatures to proof of the ability of machines to change vote tallies, over and over again we produce proofs of things that violate basic election laws. I can understand the reluctance to accept things that make your side look corrupt, and I can even understand saying that there is not enough proof that these violations really made a difference in the outcome (though that requires a lot of self-delusion) but to claim that there was no fraud when this evidence is presented is to firmly choose the side of bad character. It is to openly stand with corruption, it is to defend corruption and state the intention to support and enable it.

      But in any case, the nation is splitting apart. Our choice is to either try to figure out the root cause of the division and start working to correct it, or to accept it and let the parties go their separate ways.

      • Cluster December 14, 2020 / 1:52 pm

        Love Dan Bongino

      • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 2:01 pm

        His pod cast is really good. He needs to get better at self-editing but in general he makes a lot of very good points and provides a lot of information.

        You should listen to Michael Knowles on his own podcast as well as on the Ted Cruz podcast, “Verdict”. Lots and lots of good information as well as analysis there. And I am very impressed by Charlie Kirk. I’ve started to listen to podcasts instead of a lot of the opinion shows on talk radio, as they tend to be repetitive after a while and a fresh perspective is good. There are times I can’t stand to listen to Hannity—he has a lot of good guests but will barely let them talk. His introductions suck the air out of the room as he goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on about the same old same old., till the guest can barely say anything but “that’s right, Sean” and every time the guest starts to talk Hannity interrupts with something that boils down to “but look at ME!” So if I am driving, which I seem to do way too much these days, I skip from Rush’s show to podcasts to Buck Sexton.

      • Cluster December 14, 2020 / 2:28 pm

        I have definitely started following Steve Bannon more after hearing that speech he gave to the WEC. And do like Michael Knowles and Charlie Kirk too

  19. Cluster December 14, 2020 / 1:27 pm

    So after a year of tyrannical unconstitutional lock downs, the closing of small businesses, the complete destruction of inner cities, the impeachment of a POTUS on baseless grounds, and a completely fraudulent election … little crewfuck thinks we are unAmerican. What a loser. Democrats are going to find out in the next year or two who Americans really are. And when I say there are only Patriots and Traitors left in this country … crewboy is a traitor.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:40 pm

      You notice that crewboy has never said why he supports Biden. He is just a bickerer, just a troll tossing out clickbait to try to get responses, but is just an empty shell of nothing but noise.

      Let him explain why he supports the political system represented by Biden and the Left and he might actually gain a scintilla of credibility as a thinking human being even if he is wrong. Let him explain why he believes that might makes right, and that the side with the most votes no matter how it got them has the right to govern and he might start to build a teeny tiny little reservoir of consideration as something other than a piece of shit blog vandal.

      But don’t hold your breath. Because he won’t. Because that is all he is.

  20. Retired Spook December 14, 2020 / 1:34 pm

    Another great article from TownHall.com this morning.

    One reason they may have said that is because the lead attorney working for the third party audit team claims the team, based on the evidence retrieved, can prove that the vote switch didn’t come from a faulty clerk mis-tabulating totals, but rather a computer connected to the tabulating system.

    Dana Nessel, the Attorney General for the state of Michigan, knows something about the election in Antrim County that she is disallowing from being made public. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson does too. But she’s been busy making up claims about Trump supporters being armed and protesting at her home.

    Antrim County gave us the tip of the spear of truth regarding Dominion Voting. It may now also hold key evidence of a nationally stolen election.

    And while Democrats keep saying show us the evidence, they continue to use the power of public office to prevent the people from seeing the evidence that does exist. (emphasis – mine)

    That they don’t want us to see it is likely pragmatic and self evident.

    But if they want the American people to have confidence in the election of 2020, wouldn’t it make sense to have ultimate transparency?

    So why not?

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 1:47 pm

      Spook, you just laid out reasons why the Left is so panicked about the Georgia Senate election. It’s not about control of the Senate for reasons of governance, it is to prevent the Senate from mounting investigations into voter fraud and calling these people in to testify, under oath, about what they know and what they have done to deceive the American people. It is pure self-preservation. Because conviction of voter fraud at this level of deception, leading to the fraudulent turnover of the presidency to a corrupt and wholly-owned puppet of China, would be a very serious conviction indeed. And we have a long list of people who need to be investigated, including some judges.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 2:04 pm

      What ever happened regarding the test where they fed in 100 ballots for Trump and 100 for Biden and got results of something like 65 for Trump and 135 for Biden? Or is that the Antrim County evidence you mention? It seems like it should get a lot more attention than it has.

    • Amazona December 14, 2020 / 10:18 pm

      I think the movement has renamed itself. It is now #MeToo/Sometimes/Maybe/It Depends

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