David Frum took Senator Lee to task over his refusal to back the war in Ukraine – stating that failure to back the Administration when its helping a NATO effort is tantamount to backing Russia. So it has been in our foreign affairs since WWI – failure to enthusiastically back Administration foreign and war policy is treason.
To my shame, I used to sign on to this. I am glad I’m past it now.
To be sure, there is such a thing as treason – we define it directly in our Constitution. One of the few definitions of crime in it.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. – Article III, section 3
Now, you can make an argument that refusing to condemn Russia over Ukraine is some sort of adherence to our enemies, but I do believe that stretches it far beyond the breaking point. Adhering to our enemies in the Founder’s minds would have been what Benedict Arnold did: taking an officer’s commission in the Royal Army to fight against us. It is true that after the Revolution many Loyalists were mistreated and forced to flee the new nation – and good riddance to them. As Samuel Adams put it, I hope their chains sat lightly upon them and we have very much forgotten they were ever our countrymen. But nothing was done with that very large segment of the population which was neither Patriot nor Loyalist. The bottom line is that a great number of Americans didn’t care one way or the other about the outcome of the war. And after the war, they simply became citizens along with the Patriots and proceeded to play their role as citizens in the formation of our Republic. Given this, I don’t think that anyone refusing to back Ukraine can in any reasonable definition be considered a traitor.
But that is what the Frums of the world consider them to be. They are so committed to the global order that they cannot allow any dissenting view from it. We must be involved. Isolationism must be wrong. And so on like that. It is very useful for them to take such a line as it excuses them from having to argue in favor of the war or the policy. It allows them to merely slander those who disagree with it.
The only war we’ve had since the Civil War which wasn’t a war of choice was the war against Japan. One can argue that various policies of the USA provoked Japan into attacking and I will agree…but the choice still lay with Japan. They did commit the overt act against a Power which was not in any way threatening offensive military action against Japan. But other than that war, everything has been a choice. Sure, a lesser argument can be made that the war against Hitler’s Germany also wasn’t a choice as Hitler declared war on us. But our sending by far the largest part of our military force to Europe was a choice. We didn’t have to do it. Backed by American aid, the Anglo-Russian combine in Europe could never be defeated by Germany. Open question whether this combine absent an American Army and Air Force could have beat down the Germans as was in fact done…but the bottom line is that we didn’t have to be there. And neither have we had to be anywhere else.
But everywhere else we have been, right? And now think about it: in each case the justification for action was Hitler. Because Hitler managed to get rolling against people who didn’t want to put up a fight it became necessary for us to put up a fight for everyone else, forever. And by one means or another (though lately explicitly) each enemy we’re told to go fight is another Hitler who, if not stopped right now and by us, will grow to a Hitlerian threat to the world. It is really rather crude – indeed, cartoonish – propaganda once you see through it, but it has worked very well. And so they keep doing it – and now Senator Lee is a Hitler-appeasing traitor…for not wanting an open-ended commitment to Ukraine’s government (which is getting to be m ore unsavory in action all the time).
It is good to point out that it was only in hindsight that Hitler had to be stopped regardless of cost. Anyone telling you that the leaders of the world knew what Hitler was up to in the death camps is lying or misinformed. Sure, plenty of word did get out but it was like all other word out of an occupied territory…you couldn’t be sure. It was only when the camps were opened that we knew for certain what was happening…and everyone was shocked because nobody, not even the strongest opponents of Hitlerism, thought that an advanced people like the Germans could really round up men, women and children and exterminate them. So, it was good that we got deep into Europe. Had we not, many more millions of innocents would have died. But that was happenstance. It wasn’t intended. We didn’t invade Europe to shut down Auschwitz; it was shut down as a merciful byproduct of the main desire. But this hindsight is now transformed into foresight for the globalist propagandists and everyone they hate has to be Hitler and we all have to jump aboard or we’re allowing another Holocaust to occur.
Drivel.
Hitler was a unique thing. What he did and how he was able to accomplish it will never be repeated. This is not to say that we won’t come across people willing to murder millions. Heck, some of our own leaders are willing to murder millions to appease the weather god. But there won’t ever again be a racial supremacist like Hitler determined to conquer territory for his people and exterminate a group identified as the sole enemy of humanity. It just won’t happen again. Putin not only isn’t a Hitler, he can’t be a Hitler. He might be twenty different versions of SOB, but he’s not an existential threat to Europe or the world. He’s a problem. But is he our problem?
I say, no. Europe is collectively far more powerful than Russia. Just between Poland, Germany, France and Britain a military, naval and air force can be raised sufficient to make Russia back down. And with France and Britain having nuclear weapons, there’s a complete stand off on that level. I can see why Poland doesn’t want the Russian Bear to take Ukraine and once again hold land bordering a Poland which for centuries has been seen by Russia as a sort of redoubt to be held by Russia against Europe. But this tells me the Poles better build a first rate military force and make alliance with Germany and, also, Romania and Hungary who also don’t want a Russian army camped on their borders. And if the Poles or the Europeans in general don’t do this?
Well, how does that become an American problem? People who won’t defend themselves are to be defended by us? For what purpose? If the Poles don’t want to work to keep the Russkies away, why should a kid from Ohio have to do it?
And why is it our problem if the Syrians are having a civil war? Did the Syrians intervene in ours? Sudan descends into chaos. Why is that our problem? I can see keeping foreigners out of the Americas, but what interest do I as an American have in African, European and Asian affairs?
Oh, you can talk me into having an interest. But this would require truly reciprocal alliances and allies who maintain powerful military forces. I don’t think I should have to send an American army to defend Poland unless, say, a Polish army is pledged to come to east Asia to help us fight the Chinese. And that Polish army better be first rate. Well trained. Best possible equipment. Ready at a moment’s notice to fight. See where I’m going? It isn’t an alliance if I’ve got an unlimited obligation to my ally and he has no obligation to me. If he’s allowed to be slack in preparedness and doesn’t have to bleed with us when we’re attacked, then it isn’t an alliance. That is a client relationship – and if Poland is our client, fine. They can pay us 3% of their GDP every year. Same as everyone else in the NATO “alliance”. We’re the first global empire to be the sugar-daddy and its just stupid.
I want us to stop this. To give up the Wilsonian demand that the world be made safe for Democracy. I don’t care what the world is: I only care what America is. And I don’t like being called a traitor – with all that implies – because I don’t want Americans to bleed for the Donbas. We’ve poisoned ourselves with alliances. It is time to bring them to an end. The war is over. Come on home, America. Let the foreigners fight. Advise them carefully that attacking us is suicidal, but leave them alone. It isn’t our world.
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“So it has been in our foreign affairs since WWI – failure to enthusiastically back Administration foreign and war policy is treason.”
Is this really true? Many elected politicians have been critical of an administration’s foreign policy over the years. Can you name anyone who has been convicted (or tried) of treason for “failure to enthusiastically back Administration foreign and war policy”?
I refuse to believe that you’re that dense, Forty. You know full well what I mean – the National Security State calling refusals to support, treason.
I know for you it is a little more difficult because, being of the Left, the only time you are anti-war/anti-Military Industrial Complex is when a GOPer is in office. But, seriously: don’t you think its time to rethink this whole thing? This more than a century of sending our blood and treasure overseas to prop up that bastard but take out this other bastard? Maybe bastard removal isn’t such a good idea as we simply lack sufficient knowledge of local conditions to decide which bastard really is the worse one?
I’m saying this man to man…of course, I don’t actually know if your man or woman…but, what the heck; you get what I mean. Say it is citizen to citizen. Not right or left or GOPer or Democrat – do you really think this whole effort since 1917 has borne fruit? Sure, whacking Hitler’s regime was clearly worth the effort. But as I pointed out, we didn’t even know that until after it had been whacked. Without knowledge of the Holocaust, the difference between Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia was in slogans. But outside of getting rid of Hitler, what benefit? Isn’t it time to ask some questions? To look at what happened through the prism of “hey, maybe we shouldn’t have?”
And even if we come down, after thought, on the idea of “should have”, do we really want to trust those who did all that crap in the last century to keep going? It is pretty universally believed these days we should have stayed out of Vietnam…but suppose you and I, after thinking it over, figure that on balance it was worth the effort…but then we notice that the obvious move to end the war in about six weeks was to take the port of Haiphong through which 90% of North Vietnam’s supplies came into the country. For goodness sake – we had absolute naval supremacy, a Marine Corps versed in amphibious ops and aerial superiority which could easily become aerial supremacy over the target. No port, no supplies…no supplies, no war in South Vietnam. Checkmate, Charlie.
Nothing doing…we spent years chasing around the bush and blowing sh** up. The heirs of those people are running military and foreign policy today. You want to keep them at it? By what logic do you come to such a conclusion?
And given all the mistakes and lies, how can you be at all sure that the Narrative about Ukraine bears any resemblance to reality? Sure, we know Putin invaded and that, by the Laws of War, puts him in the wrong…but that doesn’t make Ukraine right. No more than voting makes it a Democracy. Everything you know about the situation comes to you via the MSM (which lies), the government (which lies and has a vested interest in you believing the war in Ukraine is good) or Russia (which lies). Does this really make you comfortable? No questions? Just accept it?
Come on – wake the heck up. You can remain liberal and still despise these people. And you should.
I’m old enough to remember when liberal Democrats were anti war, but that again just shows you the 180 that Democrats have done over the last 20 years. Democrats also use to be staunch defenders of free speech, defenders of the working class, and opponents of big government. But those positions have been replaced by new Democrats who are now pro war, pro censorship, pro corporation, and pro authoritarian. It wasn’t long ago that Democrats were raging against McBushHitler and his war in Iraq screaming “no blood and treasure for oil” and wanting Bush to be held up for war crimes. Now they celebrate their President as he wages endless wars. YCMTSU but it’s happening.
I’m with you Mark. F**k the rest of the world. We have more than enough problems here to worry about.
Forty, you never will answer a question or comment on the issue at hand.
Seriously: why do you bother? I hope you’re getting paid for this…because if you’re not, then I can’t see why you’d come here to spit out talking points.
Looks like Cluster and I aren’t the only ones. Maybe Fox can hire Dylan Mulvaney. I hear he/she is looking for a job.
I sincerely hope that Fox goes the way of Bud Light, and they lose a huge percentage of their viewers. I am making a point to NOT watch Fox News anymore, any of it. Which isn’t too difficult because Tucker was the only pundit I watched regularly. I would try and catch some of Jesse Watters, Martha McCallum, and Laura Ingraham’s show but that was about it. I can’t stand Fox with Friends, and Hannity has been unwatchable for a while now, and Gutfield? I suspect he may be gone too soon. Fox and the Murdoch’s have shown us who they are. Let’s show them who we are.
Spook, I think there are millions more just like us.
Fox News just pulled a Bud Light: Furious Tucker Carlson fans say they will now boycott beleaguered network after his firing because it ‘was the only show I watched’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12009557/Furious-Tucker-Carlson-fans-say-boycott-Fox-News-network-firing.html
Mattias Desmet has a must-read guest post today on Robert Malone’s Substack.
GREAT article. And how can anyone study 1930’s Germany and not know what “mass formation” is? It is happening here in America and we are headed towards a critical point. In America, there is definitely a “Truth crisis”. The excerpt from the article below beautifully defines what we are living through. It’s all a lie.
This shows us that the process of mass formation and totalitarization has not stopped with the winding down of the coronavirus crisis. It continues. It uses a variety of narratives as its vehicle – the coronavirus narrative, the climate narrative, the woke discourse, and so on. Each of these narratives is, ultimately, a kind of propaganda for one underlying ideology- intentionally circulated by institutions or enthusiastically disseminated by fanatic believers. This ideology is the mechanistic, materialistic-rationalistic ideology (or no matter how you want to call this set of ideas) which believes that the universe is a machine that can be entirely understood and controlled in a strictly rational way. The most recent version of this ideology is transhumanism, which believes that the ultimate destiny of the human being is to be technologically optimized and placed in a technological, digitalized society.
The future, or at least the near future of humanity depends on how many people understand what’s happening and adjust their lives to counteract it. Right now I think the number is pretty small. If people don’t start pulling their heads out of their asses, civilization is going to take a massive hit.
Once again, they forgot about God! That transhumanism thing is the end point of it all – these morons (some of them, anyway) think they can insert their mind into a computer and live forever. Somehow download all their memories into an AI robot and off to the races! The fact that the Covid propaganda took hold shows what our real problem is: people just don’t know very much…this leads to a remarkable amount of stupidity on both ends…you know, those who think they can loot stores for a living and never run out on one hand and those who think they can download their souls on the other.
We still hope for a Constitutional resolution of the crisis…but if we have to go Franco/PInochet, then one of the larger tasks will be sifting through the population to find the people really capable of exercising the franchise and making sure it is reserved for them.
The fact that the Covid propaganda took hold shows what our real problem is: people just don’t know very much…this leads to a remarkable amount of stupidity on both ends…
There are really only two kinds of Progressives: the few elite at the top who think they’re special and get off on controlling others and the 95% who are just useful idiots and cannon fodder. Unfortunately, I think there are at least as many of them as there are of us, probably more at this point. The difference is going to manifest itself when the last store closes up after being looted one too many times, those folks, as you say, are going to be lost, while people like us who are knowledgeable about things that matter and have the ability to actually do things and make stuff are going to survive. Progressives are going to face a conundrum when Darwin’s survival of the fittest actually works against their narrative. I kinda hope I’m around to see it.
Funny headline: (credit – Babylon Bee)
Aaron Rodgers Retires From Professional Football To Play With The Jets
LOL
Good piece of advice from Robert Malone:
They are all interconnected and getting more so – and even without a plan, it still goes that way as almost all people in senior government and corporate offices emerge from the same social backgrounds and attended the same sorts of schools which all provide the same propaganda disguised as education. As someone pointed out, this might not have been so bad except we’re getting a corrupt and oppressive Ruling Class which is also very stupid and doesn’t know how to do anything. We might not like a Franco or Pinochet…but they at least knew how the world works and so did things which would, even if only partially, help people out…we’re getting morons who think I need to eat bug paste to save the planet.
You’ve just described Americas new Oligarchy. They all go to same weekend cocktail parties, their kids go to the same schools, and they all vacation in the same places. They have centralized information and power and it will be a fight to restore the country. Make no mistake about that.
I doubt there are many Bob Dylan fans here. I was a fan from my teen years, spending hours listening to his music, but I understand that his voice kept a lot of people from listening to the words. (And even as a long-time hard-core fan, when I saw him on TV in an awards show singing a song from a movie all I could think was “WTH?” and even reading the words later it made no sense to me. But I digress….)
Anyway, RedState has this article today, and I recommend it. The lyrics are in text, so no one has to listen to anything 😉
With ‘Slow Train Coming’ Bob Dylan Foretold Today 43 Years Ago
He made this album soon after he became a Christian, and his faith is evident when you read the words to “You Gotta Serve Somebody”:
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody
This is from “When You Gonna Wake Up?” written 43 years ago. It looks like he was paying more attention back then than most of us were.
Counterfeit philosophies have polluted all of your thoughts
Karl Marx has got ya by the throat, Henry Kissinger’s got you tied up in knots
Adulterers in churches and pornography in the schools
You got gangsters in power and lawbreakers making rules
When you gonna wake up, when you gonna wake up
When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain?
Prescient is an understatement.
Democrat-Run State Decriminalizes Possession of Meth, Heroin, Fentanyl
It seems there is little the left can get right these days and the resulting problems created affect not only their immediate constituents, but seep continually outward until all are infected by these harms. But don’t worry, those who perpetrate these gross misconducts will not be held responsible as they are busy finding new ways to stick their nose into places they were never meant to be, finding new ways to strip freedoms and make life harsher for anyone but themselves… all in the name of some mysterious made up, greater good. Sadly, the sheeple will buy it just long enough for the next batch of evil to unfold.
But you’re forgetting the only thing that matters: THEY’RE NOT TRUMP!
Crude, and sexist, and I don’t care. We’ve expanded the envelope here to cover all sorts of language and topics
Crude is the new truth. Absurdity is the new normal lol
ROFL
Great headline
Looks like Tucker Carlson doesn’t give two Fox about his ouster
I’m so glad Tucker was fired from the Murdoch’s. I can say this, Fox needed Tucker a lot more than Tucker needed Fox. Tucker will emerge on a new platform and will have twice the audience. It also gave me the reason to completely abandon network propaganda news.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12015801/Gleeful-Tucker-Carlson-tells-DailyMail-com-future-plans.html
It also gave me the reason to completely abandon network propaganda news.
You and me and millions of others. Does a lie told by the agenda media matter if no one hears it? Asking for a friend.
I have not watched any TV for about six months. I couldn’t get my new ComCast account hooked up in Florida after the hurricanes, and got used to just watching Netflix or Amazon if I needed to stare at a screen for a while. When I’ve been back in Colorado on brief trips I just didn’t care enough to get or program a new remote. And I have been very happy with this. The only thing I miss is Gutfeld and Tucker, now it will be Gutfeld, if I replace my remote when I’m back in Colorado/Wyoming for the summer.
I had already stopped watching any “news” on TV, but did look at some of the opinion shows every now and then. Hannity drives me crazy, with his insistence on recounting every detail of a situation before going on to whatever it is he wants to say–if he was going to comment on a new Hunter Biden haircut the lead-in would be a couple of minutes of rehashing Ukraine, Burisma and the laptop first. Hannity is just not very smart. Ingraham is smart, and more focused, but I got tired of all the repetition there too, though she has on occasion had some new information and insights.
Biden formally announces his bid for reelection. When Obama ran for reelection, I thought to myself; “Now that people have seen for 4 years the destructive direction Obama want to take us, surely they won’t reelect him.” Guess it’s hard to overestimate the level of idiocy mindless drones play in all of this. With most of the media more woke than ever, it will be difficult to get the truth out.
The demoncrats have a real problem on their hands however (when do they not). Many understand that Bidum is dragging them down, but to outwardly work against him would place their agendas into question. I could see where they would actively work behind back doors to take Bidum out before the end of this term, but that leaves them in the undesirable position of Harris taking over, something I think many of them find even less desirable, if that were possible. It’ll be interesting to see how they attempt to get out of this tangled mess.
“Personal freedom is fundamental to who we are as Americans,” Biden said in the video.
“But, you know, around the country, MAGA extremists are lining up to take on those freedoms. Cutting Social Security that you’ve paid for your entire life, while cutting taxes for the very wealthy.”
“Dictating what health care decisions women can make, banning books, and telling people who they can love. All while making it more difficult for you to be able to vote.”
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Former president and Republican candidate Donald Trump reacted to Biden’s announcement by publishing a statement:
“You could take the five worst presidents in American history, and put them together, and they would not have done the damage Joe Biden has done to our Nation in just a few short years,” Trump wrote.
“Our cities have been overrun with homelessness, drug addicts, and violent criminals, who are being released from jail in mass with no retribution whatsoever, while law enforcement is weaponized against law-abiding conservatives or Republicans, or people they just don’t like,” he said. “Our children are being indoctrinated and mutilated by left-wing freaks and zealots. The senior ranks of our military have gone completely woke, and our military is suffering greatly.”
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Marjorie Taylor Greene, the outspoken Republican congresswoman from Georgia, also reacted to Biden’s announcement, blasting the president and accusing him of lying in his re-election video.
“Republicans have zero plans to cut social security,” she stated. “Abortion is not women’s health care, it kills a baby no matter how Democrats wordsmith it. We aren’t telling people who to love, we want to protect kids from the Democrat approved child genital mutilation medical industry.”
“And lastly, Republicans have made it clear we support election integrity and no[t] ballot harvesting just like Democrats.”
Just ruminate over the absurdity of this statement. But this is who Democrats are. They are gender, and intellectually fluid
Secy. @PeteButtigieg tells the Daily Show: House Republicans’ bill restricting transgender participation in women’s sports is “really getting in the way of our ability to” repair bridges & railroads.
Kinda plays together with their push to dumb down the populous. Hard to fix stoopid.
LOL, they’ve done a good job haven’t they?
Well, there’s that and then there’s the problem of how to build roads that are not racist. Poor Petey, he gots himself a really hard job, doesn’t he?
“We are literally building bridges, and they are literally banning books.”….
Can someone send Petey Boy a dictionary so he can learn the definition of “literally”?
And “ban”?
And “building”?
Oklahoma judge puts restraining order on Christian man who criticized LGBT ideology online
This is as unconstitutional as it gets, but that won’t stop the push. Judges should be barred when the scope of their ruling goes so far out-of-bounds as to be in total opposition of the US Constitution. That would potentially give them pause to being an activist in a robe.
We have too many “activists in robes” in this country. Take for example the judge who signed the indictment on Trump, which was a misdemeanor past the statute of limitations … yet he signed it anyway. That’s activism. Not justice.
Hey, I’m the one who thinks an office should have an oath of office that is binding, like an employment contract. So when a judge, for example, swears an oath to uphold the Constitution he then has skin in the game, as if he violates that oath he loses his job and the associated benefits.
Just the knowledge that this would be possible would make judges stop and think. Right now judges are untouchable, with no accountability at all.
Making the oath of office binding would also eliminate sanctuary cities and states and rogue DAs.
If anyone has a better idea of how to impose accountability on our elected and appointed officials, I would love to hear it. No approach would be ideal or foolproof, but doing nothing hasn’t worked out so well either.
In Oklahoma. Not California or New York – this happened in Trump +33 Oklahoma.
This shows just how far we let the rot spread – in our own backyard where our people absolutely dominate we still managed to get a judge who rules that on the subjective word of one person, another can be prevented from speaking.
Don’t completely forget about national power – we still need to compete for it and grab as much as we can. But our primary task for the next ten years is to gain total control of our own States.
Joe Biden spewed gibberish during a speaking event in Washington Tuesday, launching into a bizarre rant just hours after launching his 2024 re-election campaign.
“Two and a half years ago… Uh, well… Supply chain! People are looking at me… Bright people! Look at, uh… The -uh- the… yeah… the… um… Well, guess what? Cause the pandemic!” he told the confused audience.
Yet according to polls, 30% of Americans want him to run again, which telegraphs an intention to vote for him.
How important is it to keep Mattressback Kammy out of the Oval Office?
Important enough to keep this dummy around, though he does need a better ventriloquist. The people running everything would be doing the same thing with her in the presidency, so it’s not as if anything would change, other than the strutting and virtue signaling of THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN PRESIDENT !!. But keeping Joe in office has its benefits. For example, it should be a lot harder for the Left to attack Trump for lying, with ol’ Joe here so far outside the gravitational pull of truth and reality. The Left always made a big deal out of the fact that Trump was often less than articulate, and had some very odd linguistic quirks (like saying things were ‘perfect”). Kinda hard to do with with Joe carrying on in the background. The Whattabouts would really hamper Leftist attack efforts.
Given the fact that there is literally no one on the Left who could stop or even slow this death spiral we’re in, I think we’re better off keeping Joe around and riding it out and hoping that we can elect someone who can flip things in a hurry once in office. He’s becoming a gift that keeps on giving, as is the Dems fear of Harris.
Trump or DeSantis—either one would quickly and decisively kick donkey heinie and not even slow down to take names. Put Cruz in as AG and watch heads roll as indictments mount up, while he waits for a SCOTUS position to open up.
Joe needs to continue to be POTUS to cover his, and his sons crimes. Otherwise they could both be looking at prison sentences.
This is who Tucker is … genuine, nice and authentic. EVERYTHING DEMOCRATS HATE
That begs the question, why do Democrats HATE “genuine, nice and authentic?” I would submit that, deep down, it’s jealousy, because it’s everything they’re not.
Indeed. Here’s another gentleman who speaks the truth. Good job Jose
A lot more questions like this one needs to be asked … repeatedly
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/brutal-question-at-wh-briefing-check-out-jake-sullivans-face/