Open Thread

Normally, I never condemn anyone for their vote but for 2024 a GOP vote has become a moral obligation on all decent people. Regardless of what anyone thinks of any particular GOP candidate and in spite of the manifest weakness, corruption and folly of the GOP, itself, the Democrats have become so overwhelmingly bad – anti-human, evil in policy – that anyone with the least moral sense has to vote for the one alternative likely to eject the Democrats from power: and that is the GOP.

They are using the Department of Justice as a Gestapo. They are selling us out to the Green Lobby while China builds coal-fired power plants. They favor abortion to birth and the medical transition of children. They are conniving at the new slave trade along our southern border. They are making policy based on bribes and kickbacks. They are feeding the flames of internal hatred and division merely to keep selected demographic voting blocs on their side. It is all just horrible and if it goes on America is lost. They must be stopped – and the only way to stop them (God help us!) is the GOP.

As I’ve said many times, I will back the eventual GOP nominee regardless of who that person is – and I am no longer engaging in internal debate about which candidate is best. They are all better than any Democrat. From the most Trumpy to the most RINO among them, they are all miles above any Democrat. I urge all on our side to cease sniping at each other – sure, battle for your candidate, but don’t spend any time attacking the supporters of someone else. Save that fire for the Democrats. There is simply too much at stake for us to waste our effort on internal battles.

The latest Trump indictment is the same flaming garbage as the other two – they are charging him for speech. The only reason they can do this is the charges are being filed in DC and the federal judiciary there is under the control of frothing-at-the-mouth Leftwing fanatics imposed by Obama. The case should be tossed, but it won’t be – even the DC court of appeals is a no-go as a majority of it is Democrats. Eventually the Supreme Court will toss the case, but that could be years from now. The only question here is do Democrats feel an advantage for a quick trial and conviction (there is no doubt a DC jury will follow Party orders and convict no matter what the facts are), or have it hang over Trump especially if he’s the nominee? They might not know themselves, so you may see a bit of confusion in how they proceed. And they’re not done – they’re working on more charges in various venues and I would suspect if Trump is the nominee then in September of next year he’ll be charged with sedition.

But, does it matter? Right now, Trump is riding high for the GOP nomination and there are worried rumbles among the Left: a concern that even if Biden remains ahead, he’s not enough ahead to win. Remember, 3 or less points in the popular vote likely means a GOP Electoral College victory. And one recent poll actually had them tied – which would work out to a catastrophic Democrat defeat, probably costing them the Senate. I don’t care too much for polls…but the people who control the money in politics (on both sides) live and die by them. That is why we’re also hearing rumbles that people want Joe off the ticket…that, in fact, the recent revelations about Hunter originate in Democrats trying to force a change on the ticket. Who can really know?

The basic problem the Democrats have is that for the first time, they don’t have a smart person in charge. Much as we all despise Obama and the Clintons, they knew how to operate political machinery. Biden is senile and barely able to function more than a few hours a day. The Executive decisions likely depend on who talks to him last, and most of the time that would be Jill, who has never shown any political talent. The really bad thing for Democrats is there is nobody to ride herd on the most kook Left parts of the coalition. They are now rather regularly saying the quiet part out loud…including in front of people who aren’t emotionally committed to them. It could make for a wild ride next year.

82 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 3, 2023 / 8:39 am

    I’m having trouble wrapping my head around how more than a tiny minority of Leftists zealots would be wanting to vote to continue the path we’re on. I have several friends who are so fed up with the GOP to the point that they’re resigned to having the country crash and burn and hoping to pick up the pieces and start over. I’m not quite at that point yet, but I’m getting there.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 9:33 am

      I’m actually encouraged by our Congressional Republicans. Oh, not all of them, especially in the Senate, but we’ve got some real warriors in the House. Greene is a loose cannon, but she has to be scaring the Left or they would just be ignoring her. Jordan is a rock star, and freshman Hageman is showing them how it’s done.

      We can bitch and moan, or we can learn from parents in school boards and take over. The first thing to do is defund the RNC. That shouldn’t be hard. And inform the state GOPs. in person, what they will have to do if they don’t want the organization to totally wither on the vine. It’s one thing to say we’re fed up with them, but what do we want them to do? Specifically?

      I know what I want. I want the national GOP to call in the heads of every state organization and lay out a national game plan, and get some kind of coherent messaging going. I’ve often said the term “like herding cats” must have come about after watching Republicans. The Dems all have the same message, while every Republican has his or her own little bubble that doesn’t seem connected to any of the others.

      I want the message to Republicans to be to stop fighting the Dem PEOPLE and start fighting the Dem MODEL. Biden should be the gift that keeps on giving, but we keep focusing on his dementia, his decrepitude and his corruption. They’re all important, but any Dem who hasn’t absorbed that information by now isn’t going to, and as long as we run against BIDEN THE PERSON they will be pushing back at Republican PEOPLE. And there lies the bickering, the vitriol, and the divisiveness.

      When I say Biden is the gift that keeps on giving, I mean his escalating tyranny. That should be the sole focus of our campaign. Yes, he’s a pudding-brain corrupt husk—but that’s not what matters. What matters is the growing list of liberties that have been destroyed, or threatened, in just three years. Now the feds are making it a crime to sell incandescent light bulbs! A CRIME! LIGHT BULBS!

      We need to list, and emphasize, and repeat over and over again, the freedoms already lost, the freedoms once impaired (the Covid mandates) and the threat that can happen again, and the freedoms promised to be transient if the Dems get their way.

      And our core message has to be that to vote for any Dem is to vote for ongoing and increasing incursions into personal liberty, while a vote for any Republican is a vote to protect the freedoms we still have and reinstate those lost. We need to try to get the people to stop thinking in terms of individual candidates and thinking in terms of political models.

      Do we want a massively powerful Central Authority deciding, from behind desks in Washington, what is “best” for us and then forcing it upon us? Because a vote for a Dem, any Dem, no matter how “moderate” he or she pretends to be, is a vote for that Central Authority and that power.

      What if we want to cook on gas stoves? What if we prefer incandescent light bulbs? What if we don’t want to give up our gasoline powered cars? What if we don’t want to be forced to inject experimental drugs to keep our jobs, our military positions or our ability to travel freely? What if we don’t want to turn our children over to the State to teach them what IT wants them to learn instead of what matters to us? What’s next? If banning a type of light bulb because using it might cost a few cents a year more for the consumer, why not decide that we “waste” billions of dollars a year on paint colors for cars, when it would be in our best interest and save a lot of money if all cars were beige? Just look at how that would streamline the automotive industry, and how much money it would save! It would be “better for us”.

      But no, we’ll keep playing the Left’s game of Identity Politics, which is essential to its success because it can never run on its true agenda for the nation.

  2. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 8:55 am

    Great spin on the border crisis … Democrats are bringing in a new generation of slaves. Just like they did in the early 1800’s. They love their power over people.

    I agree that Democrats have completely abandoned the Constitution and they will not stop unless stopped. Either at the ballot box or the battlefield. Democrats are no longer our fellow citizens, they are now enemy combatants and we need to confront them every single day. Allow their comments to remain and confront them, mock them, demean them, and shame them. We simply have to out bully the bully and if that includes lethal confrontation, so be it.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 9:40 am

      I think we’ll make more progress if we stop attacking the PEOPLE—Democrats are no longer our fellow citizens, they are now enemy combatants and we need to confront them every single day.—-and start attacking the SYSTEM.

      If I’m a Democrat and you come at me like that, it’s war. Anyone will be personally defensive. But it’s a lot harder to defend a SYSTEM, especially if it is defined accurately and with examples. And it can eventually be harder to remain part of a SYSTEM if it is shown to be malignant.

      Our message to Democrats should not be “why are you such assholes?” It should be “why do you defend tyranny and want it to expand?”

      We can easily attack Leftism, especially given its recent incursions into the personal liberties of Americans, but we don’t. We attack its representatives, which drags us right into the tar pit of Identity Politics. When one of ours is attacked, we defend HIM when what we should be doing is demanding to know what the attacker has against the system he represents.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 9:53 am

        The average Democrat voter doesn’t understand systems. They are propaganda fueled mouth breathers. The only thing they understand is what they are told which is GOP are racists, and Democrats are pure and noble. That’s the extent of their political beliefs. But there are much more of us, then there are of them. and we need them to know that. Just my opinion.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 3:34 pm

        The average Democrat voter doesn’t understand systems.

        So explain them. It’s not that hard. One system is based on a federal government restricted as to its size, scope and power, with most authority left to the states or to the people, and the other is one of a massively powerful Central Authority with most power at the top, a consolidation of power in the hands of a few.

        One is about individualism and personal responsibility and one is about collectivism. One is about liberty to make our own decisions and one is about the State making decisions for us.

        It’s not their fault we are so inept at messaging.

        First, we act as if we have to swing all Dems to our side, when in fact if we can get just 15-20% to rethink their political alliance we have a huge power shift. No, we’re not going to make a changes if all we do is mope around and complain about what awful people Democrats are.

        Just keep asking “Do you really want the State to decide what is best for you and then make you do it, or do you think you can make those decisions for yourself?”

        Make the national GOP DO something for a change, like have clinics to teach Republican candidates how to field questions, stay on topic and bring the discourse back to the conflict between the two systems. If every Republican candidate has the same agenda, the same information, the same talking points, the same debate answers, the message will start to percolate.

        there are much more of us, then there are of them. and we need them to know that. And just what difference, exactly, would “knowing that” mean? If there are so many more of us, why aren’t we winning?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 3:46 pm

        Most Dems don’t even realize there IS a system. Many think there is no such thing as “the Left”, that it is just a pejorative, an invented phrase. They are stunned to learn it is actually an official political system—and that it is identical to the platform of the Democrat Party.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 3:51 pm

        I think you give them way too much credit for their ability to think. Have you seen the nations recent scholastic scores? And furthermore, didn’t we have this exact same conversation back in 2004? I think we did. We don’t need to teach them the system. We need to impose the system.

  3. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 9:31 am

    Mike “that’s not my concern” Pence is the worst GOP candidate since Mitt Romney and George Bush I. I don’t think I could ever vote for him

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 9:42 am

      I used to love Pence. Ask Spook—back before Pence was governor of Indiana I thought he was a rising star. I heard him speak at CPAC in 2009 and thought he had what it took to be a great leader. He was an adequate if not stellar governor of Indiana, and as Vice President he did his job.

      But he illustrates the Peter Principle, and trying to rise above the position of VP would put him well above his competence level.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 9:57 am

        Agree. Pence is the epitome of the “establishment Republican”. He is milquetoast and would be easily persuaded by just about anyone. He only attacks Trump because he believes that gives him credibility with deep state bureaucracies. And never forget when Tucker detailed the many challenges America faces, to which Pence responded “that’s not my concern”. No truer words have ever been said.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 3, 2023 / 10:06 am

      I liked Mike Pence when he was a talk radio show host in Central Indiana in the early to mid-90s. He was also a pretty effective and articulate congressman, but a mediocre governor. I was surprised when Trump picked him for VP, as it was the common perception in Indiana that he would not have been re-elected to a second term as governor. That said, he was one of the most loyal and effective VPs in recent memory. People can argue about whether or not he should have refused to accept the envelopes containing the electoral votes from states where there were legitimate questions about their certification. The Constitution doesn’t say that he has the power to do so, but it also doesn’t say that he is prohibited from doing so. It’s a safe bet that, had the shoe been on the other foot and he had been a Democrat VP to a Democrat President, he would have acted differently. But other than that, I’m hard-pressed to recall ANY OTHER instance where he didn’t support Trump and his policies 100% and perform every task Trump assigned to him in a precise and efficient manner.

      All that said, you’re right, he’s a horrible presidential candidate. He has a difficult time taking a coherent stand on controversial issues, and the fact that he hasn’t qualified to be on the debate stage speaks volumes.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 3, 2023 / 10:12 am

      I wonder if the GOP has enough to impeach yet LMAO

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 3:35 pm

      To quote Spook, or at least reference his comments: We impeach. Then what? What is the goal of impeachment?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 3:53 pm

        Removal.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 6:41 pm

        And then what?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 10:31 am

        Begin the process of removing Kamala. Rinse and repeat until the vermin are gone.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 12:16 pm

        OK, that sounds like the beginning an actual process. Getting rid of her, and getting a replacement VP in place, might reduce the risk of getting rid of Biden. However, I see two downsides to that:
        (1) It would give the Dems an incumbent to run against in 2024
        (2) It would make Republicans responsible for getting rid of a black female. (I like the idea of keeping Harris as a problem for the Left, not for us.)

        Here’s my take on impeaching Biden: It would do the Dems a favor by removing their biggest problem. Right now he is a festering sore, getting more foul by the day, and right now he is THEIR problem to solve. So let’s sit back and watch the Left twist in the wind, trying to figure out how to deal with THEIR problem. If they act, they have to take responsibility for anything they do, but if they don’t they are increasingly more complicit in the corruption.

        Impeachment would feel good, but what advantage would it give us? Aren’t we better off running against Biden in 2024 and using all the stuff that would back an impeachment against him in the election race? It’s not going to go away. If anything, it will just continue to ripen.

        Theoretically, an impeachment would provide enough information to tank him in the election, but I think in the atmosphere of an actual election cycle, where Biden would be expected to respond, instead of just a dry recital of facts like we see in a hearing, these details would be more powerful. And we would be setting up a scenario where the party dumps him, brings in Newsome or someone, and then preens and takes credit for “dealing with corruption when we find it”, with the replacement cast as the hero here to save the day. That’s the kind of crap the Dems eat up with a spoon.

        I just keep coming back to the idea that the Left has created for itself an untenable position of having two of the most unlikable, unelectable, incompetent dead weights in history at the top of their ticket. I don’t see the advantage of helping the Left out of their predicament by getting rid of their two biggest problems.

        (I keep remembering a story of a farmer whose dog started killing chickens. So the next time the dog killed a chicken, the farmer tied it to the dog’s collar, and the dog had to live with that nasty rotting corpse till it finally disintegrated and fell off. The dog never got close to another chicken. I see Biden as the chicken now tied to the Left’s collar, and don’t see why we should step in and cut him off.)

        As for legal penalties for Biden’s crimes—there won’t be any. We can’t keep talking about his dementia and incapacity and then try him as a person who is competent. The things we think disqualify him for the presidency will protect him in the legal arena, especially as he is getting so much worse.

        So I say, let the corpse rot. Let the decay cling to the Left. Let them be the ones to deal with it. Let THEM pick on a sick tired old man and kick him to the curb. Let THEM discard a black female, with all the angst on the Left that will generate.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 12:23 pm

        Well, then there’s this option …

        Thomas Jefferson famously wrote how rebellion to tyrants is the natural order: “What country before ever existed a century and half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 12:36 pm

        Got it.

        Now, back to the nuts and bolts. Rifles are “tuned”. What’s the plan? You know, an actual PLAN? Are there trained militias, just waiting to go into battle? Who trained them? Are they competent or just a bunch of nuts? Who’s in charge? Who put him/her in charge? How did that happen? Is it national or local? What’s the tipping point? What’s the goal?

        Are you talking about an armed coup? Taking out—who? How?

        And then, when this tree has been “refreshed…with the blood of patriots and tyrants”……what?
        A new president? A new Congress? A new Supreme Court, because this one wouldn’t validate an armed rebellion. Who’d choose the new president? What about the half of the country that believes it was an illegal insurrection? A purge?

        The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. Got a plan for that?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 2:02 pm

        The same plan George Washington had …. kill them all until they surrender. It’s not complicated. The second civil war, it’s time

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 4, 2023 / 5:05 pm

        Zealots don’t surrender. I think the apropos phrase is “kill them all and let God sort it out.”

  4. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 3, 2023 / 10:18 am

    IMHO, America is not facing a political battle. This is a spiritual battle. These are not political battles over taxes or foreign policy, these are spiritual battles over enslaving people, mutilating children, and imprisoning opponents. And we are seeing now who is on what side. People like Bill Barr and Mike Pence choose to defend the indefensible and have turned their backs on God fearing Americans. These people have no souls. They are the Pharisees.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12367357/Bill-Barr-says-Amendment-not-protect-Donald-Trump-charges-trying-overturn-election-Free-speech-does-not-entitle-engage-fraudulent-conspiracy.html

  5. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 3, 2023 / 4:04 pm

    This is a spiritual battle.

    It absolutely IS, and mainstream religion’s answer has been to buy into Leftist thought hook, line and sinker. I attend a small, rural Missionary Church, and one of the main reason’s I do is because of our pastor’s ability to enthusiastically relate the scripture to everyday life. Most large denominations have drifted away from that into social justice.

  6. Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 8:27 pm

    Tyranny 101: Stop Saying That ‘It Can’t Happen Here’ — It IS Happening Here

    The useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of the Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system, when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made the point: never bother with leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. They serve a purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in the United States: all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation. When their job is completed, they are not needed any more. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power, obviously they get offended, they think that they will come to power. That will never happen, of course. They will be lined up against the wall and shot.

    Watch Bezmemov say it himself. This is the most important seven minutes you’ll spend all year.

    • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah August 3, 2023 / 9:12 pm

      I like the line in the article that reads…

      Your children and your grandkids are even more reason to get busy.

      Yes, it’s time people get their rifles tuned in and ready to roll.

      This battle for our nation won’t be won peacefully. It’s foregone conclusion that the voting system is run by frauds. So, if you you love America you had better be ready to fight. The house is on fire, and the arsonists need to be “extinguished” in other words, heads need to be busted or rolled or whatever.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 12:22 pm

        Please explain the fight—how, in your mind, would it take place. Would it be, like, a giant riot? Or sides facing off against each other like the old Civil War battles? Or assassinations and snipers and sneak attacks?

        Once those rifles are “tuned in” and we are “ready to roll” where, exactly, will we “roll”? How do you envision the structure of this revolt? Will it have leaders? Who do we point those rifles at? Any Democrat? Any armed Democrat?

        So much emotion……………

      • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah August 4, 2023 / 4:12 pm

        Well, all I can say about that is that, you don’t do stuff like that, you don’t give out your plans to the enemy. . Every successful military operation in the past, the top generals they know very well that you don’t give out your plan, because the enemy knows when you’re coming, where you’re gonna be and everything. So no, absolutely not.

        I can tell you one things, it wouldn’t be no petty riot. It’s a very serious matter, with some very serious thought and dedication put into it. There will be no talk whatsoever, all action.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 4:40 pm

        Right—there are plans, you just don’t want the enemy to know what they are. Uh-huh. There really are “top generals” and stuff, and they know a lot of stuff, but don’t want the enemy to know where they’re gonna be and everything.

        And sorry, but there HAS to be talk. No talk, all action, is pretty much the definition of a riot.

        The fact is, the “enemy” is an amorphous conglomeration of ideas and fuzzy-minded followers lured in by the illusion that this makes them smarter and better than we are. It’s like “The War On Terror”. You have to fight ideas with ideas. You can’t ambush an idea, you can’t shoot an idea. Just because an idea makes you so mad you just want to go out and shoot SOMETHING doesn’t mean there is anything to shoot.

      • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah August 4, 2023 / 4:57 pm

        The enemy are not “ideas” Amazona but people, actual people, living, breathing beings. You can talk until you are blue and pass out. Which I’m not against, I’m just not gonna participate in such debauchery. Because you’re not gonna win an argument with the Left, they are tyrants, it’s their way or the Highway.

        And no, there is no such thing as rioting, when it comes to defeating your enemy. Rioting consists of yelling, throwing out epithets, hitting and shoving people, throwing bottles, rocks, bricks, etc.

        Real men don’t participate in such foolishness. Real Men come to do the honorable thing, to eliminate their enemy.

        I know I’m wasting my breath on you, but that’s okay. Maybe someone reading knows and understands, and sees the dire situation we find ourselves in. Something needs to be done before it is too late.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:35 pm

        The enemy are not “ideas” Amazona but people, actual people, living, breathing beings

        Name them. Identify them and then come right out and say what you would do about them. Ambush them? How, exactly, would you deal with them?

        I try not to be too dismissive of the politically illiterate, but sometimes it is very hard. The Left is not a single entity, but a complex organism consisting of the intellectual leadership at the top (whose names we never even know) who are ideologues and planners, who have a long-range concept of how to take over the world. Below them are the faces and names see, like Soros and Schwab. Below them are the political leaders—Obama, for example, and Trudeau, but even between these two layers are other money men and coordinators. And the political leaders control vast power through their national agencies, budgets, armies and intelligence gathering ability.

        This makes the Left not just a snake, but a hydra. You can’t just cut off one head, and you can’t even identify most of them.

        In the United States the next levels of control are Congress and the Agenda Media, both of which are powerful in their own way.

        So let’s say these top generals and their Real Men followers manage to plot, plan and execute a strategy that takes out, in the United States, the president and vice president and agency heads down four levels and the military leaders down at least that far and the more activist Democrat members of Congress. Let’s just say their secret plans manage to accomplish this and Shazaam! the Left in America is dealt a massive blow.

        That would still leave a few pesky problems. Such as, would half of the nation, the half that now supports the Democrat Party, come around enough to accept whoever the new junta might appoint as president? Setting aside the inconvenient fact that this whole thing would represent a wholesale rejection of our Constitution, what would we be governed by then? Would we just have an appointed president (appointed by ????) and then just go back to the Constitution as if nothing ever happened? What if every person who ever voted Democrat is so deeply offended by this coup that they, and millions of conservatives equally upset by it, all vote in the next election for someone the junta doesn’t like either? Take out the new regime, too? “Reeducate” the political opposition?

        Call all the names you want, misuse terms like “debauchery” because it feels good, beat your chest and strut your Real Man delusions, the fact is that this is all emoting borne of frustration and the feeling of helplessness coming from watching the bad guys take control and wanting to do something—ANYTHING as long as it is loud and noisy and affirming of manhood—to try to feel better.

        Study history. Study the history of armed coups and insurrections—which, I need to point out, took place in nations far smaller and less complex than this one. Read “Animal Farm” and consider that this has been acclaimed as an excellent example of how a concept originally intended to fight tyranny can become just a new form of tyranny because of human nature (though in the book it is disguised as animal nature).

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 4:18 pm

        Why do you always ask these questions? It’s not complicated but you always want to make it complicated by making it seem impossible. It’s possible. We could start by simply restoring law and order, in our communities and cities by taking up citizen patrols and protecting property. I believe that coordinated effort alone would begin to assemble the militia you need. I can imagine hundreds of thousands of Americans across the country signing up to join a “Restore Security” cause and voluntarily begin patrolling city streets and community neighborhoods in large numbers. And you can rest assured 95% of those people have arms …. and that’s where it could begin. We will not stand down, this American experiment is worth it. We have the numbers, we just need to organize because right now, America is headed down the same path Venezuela took back in 2000. Look where they are today. We either fight now, or we “will own nothing and be happy” courtesy of Klaus Scwab

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:08 pm

        Why do you always ask these questions? Somebody has to. It’s not complicated Actually, it is VERY complicated.

        Now you shift from Democrats have completely abandoned the Constitution and they will not stop unless stopped. Either at the ballot box or the battlefield to merely providing security patrols to offset the institutional anarchy of the Left. I agree, that’s possible and maybe even reasonable—once the complications are taken into account and addressed, but it’s a far cry from “the battlefield”. Sending out thousands of untrained civilians to act on their own to shoot down whoever they think is an enemy is a recipe for disaster, so such a plan would require training by professionals, competence with firearms, screening for crackpots who just wanna shoot someone, infiltration by false flag actors, plans and contingencies, etc. What we usually call “complications”.

        You might want to contact Curtis Sliwa to get some advice on the pros and cons, ins and outs, of a civilian vigilante force.

        And this is just a segue from the idea that we need a revolution to correct the corruption in high places and the rising control of the Left. Your Jefferson quote wasn’t about shoplifting elevated to the level of professional looting—it was about dealing with tyranny in government. And you know this, so your effort to shift it to armed patrols is not very honest.

        And if these vigilante patrols were effective, and did provide a training ground for militias, what exactly would those militias do? If…and this is a very big IF…the Left were to escalate into armed attacks on civilians to enforce their takeover of the government on an even higher level, then yes, an armed citizenry and trained or semi-trained militia would be valuable. But then they would have an identified target to shoot at, and until then the target is just a bunch of people enacting an ideology—one supported by tens of millions of people. Sounds pretty complicated to me.

        SO….what’s the plan for dealing with this? And no, I don’t believe for a moment that there is a secret plan hatched by “top generals”, for mounting an armed coup and taking back control of the government. And that is really what all this overheated emoting is about— frustration at the sense of helplessness in the face of a massive and skillful and powerful political enemy leading to the feeling that the only answer is through firepower—but without a defined physical enemy.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 4, 2023 / 5:30 pm

        It’s like “The War On Terror”. You have to fight ideas with ideas. You can’t ambush an idea, you can’t shoot an idea.

        I don’t know; the ISIS Caliphate was an idea, and we killed a whole lot of them.

        I used to be on the same page as Cluster and Jeremiah. I figured a second civil war was inevitable, and that when it started, to paraphrase Gen. Patton, we would kill the enemy by the bushel f’ing basket full. I think the far Left, following the “summer of Love” in 2020 realized that they couldn’t continue down that path because Conservatives WOULD organize and start taking the fight to them. Multiply Kyle Rittenhouse by a couple of million. If you think back on the last 3 years, the Left’s hold on power has been due to a complicit agenda media, a deeply corrupt Department of Justice and FBI, and a level of election fraud that no one could have imagined 10 years ago. Why in the world would they resort to violence at this point when literally EVERYTHING is working in their favor? And as long as THEY don’t resort to violence, the Right is not going to resort to violence. It’s just not who we are — at least not yet. That time may come, but I don’t think we’re close to it yet

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 6:23 pm

        People who know me know I am not averse to a little (or a lot) of ass-kicking, and why bother with taking names? During the Riot Season of 2020-21, I was advocating for all kinds of retaliatory measures, some rather dramatic. I didn’t care if they got bruised, broken or even killed. I thought they should be tear-gassed, drenched with permanent foul-odor Skunk Juice, even immobilized with fast-drying super-hard Silly String and left in cages to figure out how to get out of it. I thought the organizers should be targeted with tracking powder that glows under black lights and then picked up at airports and train stations and jailed without bail and prosecuted to the max. I cheered Kyle Rittenhouse and wished there were more of him.

        I hate the Left with an abiding passion, and think it as a political model should be eliminated as an abomination and scourge of humanity. I think its leaders are the scum of the earth and I have utter contempt for them.

        BUT—-I am a realist, and I understand that the simple-minded concept of just getting to the point of having had to put up with too much and thinking its’s time to get out the guns and take back the country is just that—-simple minded. Because we are huge and complex, and furthermore we would not have to deal with just the nuts and bolts of Leftist governance, the leaders, but also the remains of the brainwashing and cultural and intellectual pathogens they would be leaving behind.

        Give me a good sci-fi script where, after the Bad Guys are removed (with as much gunfire and macho posturing as necessary) there is a nationwide Men In Black sequence where every single Democrat who has bought into the nonsense and toxicity of the movement has a memory wipe and can start clean, not tainted by beliefs in Climate Change or Gender Fluidity or the other poisons the Left has inserted into so many brains, and I might be convinced. But the Bad Guys we want to eliminate, with the gratifying accompaniment of gunfire and explosions and ego-soothing mayhem, are where they are because tens of millions of Americans believe in them and want them in those positions. Just blasting in and overriding those positions Because We Know Best would be a short-term victory with the Unintended Consequence of widening the divisions in this country.

        We can’t just say “might makes right because it’s OUR might” and hold the Higher Moral Ground, much less the power we gain from it.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 5:33 pm

        Well first of all, your argument is based on the probability that it would turn into a full scale war … I don’t think it would. Again, we have the numbers. Once police forces across the country realize that they are now fully supported, they will rally to the cause. This doesn’t preclude the probability however of armed confrontation in some deep blue cities, because that would most likely happen. As for the rest of the country, it would just be a matter of taking out the trash and restoring Constitutional governance. This would require permanently removing Governors, mayors, legislatures, etc. who have any kind of a record of subverting the Constitution, no matter how small. And every other elected politician would be require to run for their office again … no incumbents, then of course exact term limits. 90% of this country will gladly jump on board. We just have to take care of the 10% rot.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:52 pm

        As for the rest of the country, it would just be a matter of taking out the trash and restoring Constitutional governance. This would require permanently removing Governors, mayors, legislatures, etc. who have any kind of a record of subverting the Constitution, no matter how small (In other words, restoring Constitutional governance by violating every aspect of the Constitution.)

        Wow. That sounds….awesome! How, exactly, would that be accomplished? I remember the arguments against my idea of making the oath of office binding, so any official who violated it would lose his position and its attendant benefits—the argument being “who would make the determination that the oath had been violated?” and “Gee, couldn’t that law be abused?” Well, that’s nothing compared to just declaring that officials have “any kind of a record of subverting the Constitution, no matter how small”. Would this be done through a vote? Who would run the election? Or at gunpoint? Who would hold the guns?

        Who would make officials run for office again? This would require a law demanding this—who would pass it? Or would it just be dictated by whoever was in charge at the time? Who would be….?? Someone appointed by ???? Or just the loudest someone, or the best shot, or the one with the biggest army behind him? (Hmmm…now what does that remind us of?)

        This is just packed with starry-eyed hopeful assumptions. That trained law enforcement officers would welcome untrained armed vigilantes taking over their jobs and cities. That there would be no legal repercussions for killing citizens in the name of this “reform”. That “90% of this country will gladly jump on board”. And so on. Aside from the countless details that are just ignored in this fantasy, there is the question of the Constitution.

        You seem to think that a group of armed citizens can unite, ignore the Constitution, dismantle its government, rearrange it, defy it by making laws without the participation of Congress, and then at some point just say “OK, Constitution Time Out is over, we’re going back to it in five, four, three, two, ONE!” And boom! It’s all reset, according to how some people (the ones with the guns) think it ought to be, and peace and joy will reign in the land.

        This whole thing sounds like what college freshmen would excitedly “discuss” late at night, drinking or smoking that waccy baccy. Lots and lots of “Wouldn’t it be great IF….?” and lots of fantasizing about being the next Rambo, but not a lot of reality.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 5:53 pm

        Well I can tell you, with that attitude it won’t get done lol

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:59 pm

        Well I can tell YOU, people who don’t understand the system can’t change it. And wishful thinking won’t get anything done, either.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 6:15 pm

        You make it sound like a bunch of yahoos running around with guns … as if very serious professional people wouldn’t rally to the cause. I can imagine many elected politicians, lawyers, police forces, small business owners, etc joining the cause quickly and bringing the movement into focus. It would take time but this could definitely happen.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 6:43 pm

        Actually, it’s YOU sounding like you are talking about a bunch of yahoos running around with guns. Because if it isn’t, that would mean some kind of organized group with leadership and a plan.

        Bringing what “movement” into focus? I haven’t heard anything that even remotely sounds like a “movement”.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 7:34 pm

        Lol well of course, it would need to develop. All of this can be avoided with the reelection of Trump. I am 100% sure about that. With DeSantis, I’m still about 90% on him, only because of his luke warm support of the Ukraine war and the Pentagon. IMHO the Military Industrial Complex, the CIA, and the FBI run this country, and those agencies need to be gutted. I know Trump will do that, I hope DeSantis will.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 8:59 pm

        Thank you for admitting that most of these problems can be addressed through non violent means, if we manage to use the system properly and elect the right person. That says, to me, that the Real Men ought to quit stroking the barrels of their rifles and start getting seriously involved in running the next election. That means pressuring state legislatures to have tight and regulated election laws. That means pressuring every single entity involved in an election, from the ballot creators to the vote counters to those monitoring drop boxes to those monitoring traditional Dem vote harvesting like nursing homes, relentlessly. That means organizing, NOW, the mechanism to sue state officials if they “certify” vote counts in defiance of strong evidence that the totals are wrong. That means organizing, NOW, the mechanism to sue the people responsible for examining ballot envelopes to make sure they are properly postmarked and signed with a signature that can be compared to a signature on file. That might mean using GOP money to pay for scanners to document every single envelope before it is examined and passed or rejected. It definitely means being a pain in the ass, and putting out a lot of effort.

        It means being specific about demands. For example, it might mean having petitions signed demanding that a state legislature pass a law saying that any time a hospital or nursing home or other institution administrator fills out a ballot for someone confined therein this must be done in the presence of at least two ballot watchers, one from each party, who will attest that the voter was awake, aware and appeared competent to make a decision about how to vote–with a significant penalty for violation of the law. A pain? Yes. Demanding of our time and energy? Yes. Important? Yes.

        How about demanding a photo ID to drop off a ballot at a drop box? Again, calling for participation by ballot watchers, and probably some kind of scanner. But have anyone dropping off ballots scan a photo Id and mark a simple form: Delivering (?) ballots. My own? Someone else’s? Whose? The envelope has to have a name and return address on it–scan it. So Sally can drop off her ballot and her husband’s and their neighbor’s, but she has her ID scanned and entered as a delivery person for X number of ballots in these names. The drop box monitor has no authority to reject a ballot, just makes a note when it is scanned so it can be pulled at the counting facility for closer scrutiny.

        We can’t stop election fraud, but we can make it harder, and more dangerous. By “dangerous” I mean having severe penalties, and not letting them run concurrently. That means if Roger drops off ten bogus ballots, he gets hit with ten counts of election fraud, with the jail sentences to run sequentially. Ditto for voting in a state where you don’t live, or voting more than once, or using someone else’s ballot because it was not delivered properly. Make it clear that a legislature’s or secretary of state’s job is not to blindly rubber stamp any old number it is given, but that it has a serious duty to do whatever is possible to make sure that number is as accurate as possible

        Pressure your state legislature to pass a law saying that challengers to votes must be allowed to examine the original ballots if the challenge is based on allegations of substituted ballots or anything that can be proved by physical examination of the ballots themselves including the metadata of the printers.

        If the feds want to get involved, let them, to the extent of legislating the requirement to have two scanners at every point where ballots are received, one for each party observing, and have the costs evenly distributed among the feds and the two national party organizations.

        If the feds want to get involved, have them fund a program to find out who, among people who might want to vote, do not have photo IDs and help them get these issued. (The RNC ought to do this on its own, to own the topic and call the bluff of the Dems, but that is too creative for Ronna et al.)

        I guarantee that a robust and even belligerent citizen involvement in the election process would be more productive (though less emotionally gratifying) than saber-rattling and posing with guns.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 5, 2023 / 8:47 am

        that the Real Men ought to quit stroking the barrels of their rifles and start getting seriously involved in running the next election

        The two are not mutually exclusive. Some force is always required in good governance. And women should really refrain from telling men who real men are. If Democrats steal another election and the country continues to devolve, the country will be begging for real men with guns.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 5, 2023 / 1:30 pm

        Yeah, well, women are pretty good at spotting macho posturing, and one big clue is when they call themselves “real men”.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 8:59 pm

        About the issue of Trump vs DeSantis re: dismantling of the Bureaucratic State (AKA Deep State AKA The Swamp). I am sure they would both accomplish much the same thing: Trump with a bulldozer, DeSantis with a scalpel, but the outcome would be the same.

        DeSantis has publicly staked out his anti-Bureaucratic State position. Way back when he was in the House of Representatives he wanted to essentially gut the IRS by replacing the income tax with a consumption tax. That is gutsy and bold, and no one else on the campaign trail has done anything like it. He also listed some agencies he would simply abolish. He’s got the combination of political and legal experience to do a lot using the existing laws and the system to get it done.

        Trump, on the other hand, can get much the same stuff done, but done by a wounded bull elephant rampaging through a system that has screwed with him, not by a legality wonk.

        I couldn’t care less how tepid DeSantis might have been in giving an opinion on Ukraine early in the campaign. As a veteran who was a military attorney as well as a shot-caller for a Seal team ( a position calling for more knowledge, more courage, more decision-making and more acceptance of personal responsibility than all of the other potential candidates put together times a hundred) I expect him to show general loyalty to the military. Wouldn’t have it any other way. That hardly means he would roll over for them, or blindly support everything they do.

        I’m fine with the idea of Trump as president, with one caveat: I think it will amplify the existing polarization in the country. I think DeSantis has the potential for healing a lot of that because his rhetoric is less inflammatory, even while his actions are dramatic, and accepting him as president would not mean abandoning a decade of carefully nurtured loathing.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 5:37 pm

        I know the civil war notion is scary, and hence the ideas become fantastical … but that’s not reality. This wouldn’t be a war. It would be isolated skirmishes in blue areas, period. BUT it has to be supported by tens of millions of Americans who are willing to put their life on the line. And I think there are a lot more of them than you think.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:54 pm

        Then stop talking about civil war, and stop talking about taking over the very core of our government because we have more guns.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 5:40 pm

        “Try that in a small town” is the clarion call for the people who have had enough. And it’s the #1 song

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 5:58 pm

        Is it about taking over the government and kicking out the people we don’t like because we have more guns?

        Because I thought it was about defending ourselves when the Left comes a’callin’ I guess I’ll have to listen more closely, to find the part about stuff like “permanently removing Governors, mayors, legislatures, etc. who have any kind of a record of subverting the Constitution” etc.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 6:06 pm

        “permanently removing Governors, mayors, legislatures, etc. who have any kind of a record of subverting the Constitution”

        Well that’s the best part of the plan .. this would include all Congressmen and Senators who voted in favor of “undeclared” wars across the globe, which would be nearly all of them. And include legislators who failed to protect the sovereignty of their States. It would be a simple measure.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 6:25 pm

        How would they be “removed”? By whom? By force if necessary? Who would replace them?

        Simple? Hardly

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 9:05 pm

        Simpler would be to make the oath of office binding, essentially an employment contract. Violate the oath to uphold the law and protect and defend the Constitution and lose your position, and its benefits. This would cover every elected official, every legislator, every judge, every sheriff and mayor and governor.

  7. Amazona's avatar Amazona August 3, 2023 / 8:49 pm

  8. Tim's avatar Tim August 4, 2023 / 5:27 am

    Anyone that thinks this war is anything other than spiritual is absolutely delusional. Anyone who thinks this war can be won by spouting off eloquent words is just plain nuts. Anyone that thinks they can fight the progressive/satanist by being nice belongs locked in a padded cell.

    It’s pretty damned simple people. Choose a side. Choose a side like your immortal Soul depends on it. Which it does. If you are not a believer? Well, sorry about your luck.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 9:53 am

      It’s just amazing to me how human nature and the arc of history never changes. The same corrupted evil that resided in the heart of Caligula resides in the heart of Hunter Biden. The propaganda the 1930’s Nazi’s employed, is the same propaganda the 2020 American Democrats are employing. And this pattern has repeated itself all throughout time. Which makes the “woke” generation all that more annoying. They believe themselves to be “enlightened”, when in reality they are “enslaved”. Enslaved in their politically constructed cages of equity and diversity that has led them to believe they can thrive outside of God’s natural order. They can not.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 11:45 am

      I posted a reply in a comments section and thought I would repost it here. You all know how picky I am about words, their proper use and definitions, and I finally addressed the distortion of the term “overturn an election”.
      …………………………………….

      As usual, the Left excels in twisting the definitions of words to create false impressions. Take “overturn the election” for example.

      To overturn an election would be to throw out a legitimate election. By constantly using this term, and getting everyone else to use it as well, the Left is cementing into our consciousness the impression that there was a legitimate election, with a legitimate outcome, and that eeeeevilll Trump was trying to destroy it—-“overturn” it.

      But the facts are very different. Trump was trying, from the get-go- to show that the election was not legitimate, by forcing the legal system to objectively evaluate the masses of evidence of fraud. He has been trying to show that the election was a sham.

      There has never been an iota of proof, even a hint of proof, that if our legal system had truly examined the evidence and objectively found it false, that Trump would then have “tried to overturn” a newly legitimized election.

      In our legal system, a court (judge) does not determine whether evidence is fact. The court is merely the trier of the law, ruling on the law itself and not on the evidence. The jury is the only trier of fact. It is the duty of the jury to examine the evidence (which includes sworn affidavits) to determine whether or not this evidence constitutes fact.

      For three years, we have been told that “the courts have ruled” on the charges of fraud, and always ruled against Trump. Yet no court has ruled on the evidence, except to dismiss it on the grounds “there isn’t enough of it”, because no jury has seen and examined any evidence and determined that it was, or was not, actually “fact”.

      All Trump has been trying to do has been to get this evidence in front of juries, where it can be examined, where testimony can be taken, where it can be evaluated in a true legal setting. The purpose of this has been to get an actual legal ruling, based on our laws, based on the verdicts of juries who have actually examined the evidence and the witnesses, on whether or not the stated outcome of the election was legitimate.

      This determination to establish the legitimacy of an election and therefore of the presidency resulting from the election and every single act of that administration, is the very essence of good citizenship.

      If the Left did not know that the election was fraudulent from the very beginning, depending a variety of actions ranging from using the power of the State to defame a candidate and intimidate and punish his supporters all the way to tampering with ballots and providing bogus ballots, it would not be fighting so strenuously, so frantically, to keep these examinations of the evidence out of the courts. All we have to do is look at the astounding outlay of energy from the Left to deny the evidence, to attack and intimidate those wanting to examine it, to flood the various media with overwhelming propaganda, to engage in the largest and most complex personal attack on an individual in history, to weaponize the full force of the State and its agencies, to get an idea of the nature and scope of the threat this kind of objective legal analysis is to its agenda.
      ……………………………………..

      I put the term “overturn the election” in the same Semantic Infiltration category as “abortion rights” and other phrases the Left uses so often they become part of our consciousness so we don’t even question them any more. They have partially succeeded with “insurrection”.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 4, 2023 / 12:21 pm

        “Gender Dysphoria”
        “Black Lives Matter”
        “Saving Democracy”
        “Climate Change”

        Just a few more propaganda phrases the Democrats are imposing on the nations conscience.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 12:40 pm

        These are certainly phrases we hear all the time from the Left. But we also know they are phrases, though “climate change” has become more accepted as a fact. But I haven’t heard anyone challenge the very meaning of “overthrow the election”. It’s just a scary term used and accepted, but it’s bogus.

        Challenging the validity of an election is in no way an effort to “overturn” a legitimate election. One is an exercise in civic responsibility, one is an act of rebellion. But we let them get away with it. And it twists minds.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 12:17 pm

      I missed the part where we want to fight the Left by being nice.

  9. Amazona's avatar Amazona August 4, 2023 / 10:43 pm

    I ran across this before it was removed and although I agree with moderators who feel that going along with Cluster’s desire to keep troll posts active is kind of like not flushing a toilet to remind us of how bad it can smell I laughed so hard at this I have to respond.

    It’s funny on several levels. One, of course, is the blatant lie that Eastman said any such thing. Forty took the lie of the link’s headline and expanded it, so it’s a two-layer lie. Eastman did, in an interview, cite the Constitutional comment on not being able to tolerate an intolerant government, and I have a feeling the following statements by him were edited out to give the impression that this was his reason for “advocating the overthrow of the government” when he really said was “Have the abuses or the threat of abuses become so intolerable that we have to be willing to push back?” It was obviously a rhetorical question and it takes a deep dive into lunacy to translate a theoretical undefined “push back” into Support For Full Insurrection. OK, not just lunacy but total deception. All-out unabashed invention. Lying.

    Poor forty didn’t find this lie dramatic enough, so s/he filled it in with the claim that Eastman said “he and Trump were trying to overthrow the government because they don’t like “the left.”

    It’s not just a blatant lie, but a very very stupid one. It takes the lie that wanting to examine the evidence, in courts of law, showing that the election was fraudulent (that is, establishing whether or not the election was legitimate) is the same thing as admitting it was legitimate and then “trying to overturn it” (by examining the evidence, of course) and expands that lie into actually “trying to overthrow the government”. Of course no action was ever taken, discussed, plotted or even alleged that could even approach an effort to “overthrow the government”—but then the trope of “DESTROYING DEMOCRACY” wore out so quickly and became such a joke that I guess the rabid Left had to look for something stronger.

    It’s like a drug addict constantly needing a stronger fix. When the media lies are no longer strong enough to meet the emotional needs of a rabid troll, so s/he has to embroider them with additional lies, you know you are looking at someone addicted to hate and always looking for ways to justify it. Which has been clear to us here for years.

    The original post may be flushed. My response may go the same way, as there seems to be a desire to remove even the lingering scent of trolldom from the blog. But this was such a transparent example of Leftist Loonyism I couldn’t pass it up. And that’s not even addressing the ghoulish glee at the hope of a good man going to prison for a lie told in the Agenda Media.

    I respond here only because this offered such a peek, unsavory as it is, into the murk and stench of the diet of the rabid Left and its dependence on hate, spite and malice as well as total dishonesty to maintain its level of insane malignance.

  10. Amazona's avatar Amazona August 5, 2023 / 7:19 am

    I usually link to an article, but every now and then I see one that I think should be posted in (nearly) its entirety. This is part of one of those, a response to a David Brooks article in which he (Brooks) admits to some of the more egregious ego assumptions of his class:

    ” I was never in the cool kids’ clique and, to be honest, I never thought to try to join. In perfect sync with a scene straight out of the yet-to-be-made “The Breakfast Club,” a popular girl commented to me that everyone in the school looked up to her clique and wanted to hang out with them and be like them. I commented, “No, we don’t.” One of my friends piped up “We’ve pretty much just been putting up with you all this time.” The stunned silence that followed was delicious.

    With that in mind, sir, let me break it down for you from the point of view of those of us considered to be the Great Unwashed.

    First, allow me to sincerely congratulate you on taking a hard look at you and yours. What you have failed to understand, Mr. Brooks, is that we less-educated members of the proletariat (and by less educated, we’re talking anyone without an Ivy League education) have pretty much been putting up with you all this time. We have swallowed more words than can be found in Merriam-Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary. We weren’t walking on eggshells. We were rolling our eyes and gritting our teeth and waiting to see if at some point you came out of your derangement. We were waiting to see if perhaps it might dawn on you that we don’t hate black or brown people. We don’t hate gay people or lesbians. We don’t even hate trans people. As for trans people, we just got bored with their egomania and angry with their predation on our children. Those in our ranks who keep guns don’t do so because they plan to shoot up a school or church. They keep them because the people who ostensibly run the country have abandoned every pretense of law and order and continue to give the nod to rioters, looters, and homeless people defecating on the streets and threatening their families. We don’t want to see the world burn, but we can’t afford $5.00 for a gallon of gas and astronomical grocery bills for the rest of our lives. We are tired of the people who crowed about welcoming immigrants and then expected us to accommodate them and cope with the human trafficking and the risks created by the cartels, gangs, and the spread of fentanyl. Ask the residents of the Woodlawn neighborhood in Chicago how they feel about the crush of illegal immigrants in their community. We wanted to be left alone. But that wasn’t good enough for you.

    There is an old joke which I believe is from Jeff Foxworthy, “Nobody likes a redneck around until their car breaks down.” And there is a great deal of truth in that. The American elites have showered disdain and outright hatred on those of us not lucky enough to be numbered among their ranks. And yet, without this despised class, life in America would be impossible. You elites have no idea how to manage livestock or crops. You cannot frame houses, install plumbing, or run electrical wires. If your cars die, you have no idea what to do next. And often those things are not particularly easy to address. They all require a great deal of intelligence and an education that cannot be found in the Ivy League. These people who you have hated so much don’t just do the jobs the elites won’t do. They do the jobs the elites can’t do.

    While we’re on the subject, sir, once upon a time my wife and I traveled to the Democrat bastion of Hawaii. I noticed a funny thing about Hawaii. The only native Hawaiians I saw were doing menial labor. I never saw them at the hotels or restaurants. The same is true about the ski resort towns we have visited. The only Latinos I have ever seen were mowing grass, cleaning rooms, or working in the kitchens. Funny, I thought the elites were going to take care of that. It is interesting how many opinions the elites have about problems that never reach them.

    It is ironic that my mother desperately wanted me to be one of you and tried to impart a love of art, music, and literature. But we just weren’t rich. As a result, I enjoy the works of Klee, Seurat, Chagall, and even Michelangelo, Van Gogh, and Joan Miró. I also have an affinity for Mahler. But I’ve worked as a busboy, garbage hauler, house painter, waiter, bartender, truck driver, and lumber yard attendant. I’ve helped run cattle, and I’ve fought wildfires. I took my first job in high school because my family needed grocery money. As a result, I am able to enjoy the “finer things” in life without looking down my nose at the guy who operates a backhoe for a living. I am not Trump’s biggest fan. While the readers here at PJ Media may take me to task for that, keep in mind that there is nothing anyone could say or do that would make me vote for the opposition.

    And don’t think for a moment that it has escaped our attention that every time someone on your side is at risk of getting their keister put in a sling, one of you manages to light your hair on fire and run around the building waving your arms screaming “Trump!” “January 6!” “White supremacy!” It’s getting tedious, sir. You need a new schtick. You don’t even know who we are.

    So, Mr. Brooks, I am glad to see that the scales have fallen from your eyes, at least in the short term. Perhaps you and yours at some point may even acknowledge that we have souls. Until that day, here is a message for you to take back to the Carr’s Water Cracker crowd: the only ones who benefit from white privilege are you. Oh, and from now on, you can change your own damn oil.

  11. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 5, 2023 / 12:17 pm

    Jeff Childers has his usual common-sense take on the recent inflammatory Chinese remarks.

    Finally, the Chinese are taking the gloves off, and telling some hard truths. In this recently-posted clip, that you won’t see in US corporate media, the Chinese Foreign Minister accused the United States of destabilizing the world. He used facts.

    Among other things, he said:

    “What is truly concerning is the destructive role the U.S. has played to peace and stability in the world. The U.S. is the number one warmonger in the world… The U.S. accounted for about 80% of all post-World War II armed conflicts. The U.S. is also the number one violator of sovereignty and interferer in the internal affairs of other countries. According to reports, since the end of World War II, the U.S. has sought to overthrow more than 50 foreign governments, grossly interfered in the elections of at least 30 countries, and attempted to assassinate over 50 foreign leaders.”

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    In fairness, many of the alleged interferences in foreign countries and so forth occurred during the Cold War, when we were beating back global communism. Some of those conflicts may appear questionable in hindsight, but many people would agree most of the conflicts were reasonable, or at least, arguably reasonable.

    But the Cold War is over. The problem seems to be that we never dismantled the Cold War “:”dirty tricks” apparatus. Our CIA’s continuing facilitation of color revolutions around the world, like in Ukraine, does not appear reasonable, and opens us up to attacks like this one from the Chinese Foreign Minister. We do not need to be “number one” in any of those questionable categories.

    We need to start minding our own business, which incidentally needs a lot of minding right now.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 5, 2023 / 12:42 pm

      The U.S. is the number one warmonger in the world…

      And we are learning this all to be true, aren’t we? It’s profoundly sad to realize what a corrupt and dishonest country the United States has become. And anyone who thinks we can talk our way out of this, is mistaken. Some heads will have to be broken.

      It’s also come to the point that Democrats and the Professional Class are having to openly lie now to save face. Their line now is that Hunter Biden was selling the “illusion of access”. WTF?? These motherf***ers have no shame, no morals, no integrity, and definitely don’t have God and they should never have any political power. The United States is the weakest laughing stock in the world right now, thanks to the wholly corrupt political class and the mouth breathing morons who support them.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 5, 2023 / 1:18 pm

      This is all interesting, but when the source is the Chinese Foreign Minister I take it all with a huge grain of salt.

      I’d like to see a list of those “50 foreign governments” we supposedly tried to “overthrow” as well as the “50 foreign leaders” we “tried to assassinate”. I wonder what “gross interference” in elections looks like when it affects other countries.

      No one seems to know how many countries there are in the world but the number seems to hover around 200. So this article claims that the United States has tried to “overthrow” the governments of at least 25% of all the countries worldwide, and also tried to assassinate 25% of world leaders.

      And not succeeded at any of this. For a nation that led the defeat of the juggernaut of Nazi Germany, brought about the end of the Soviet Union and crushed Japan this doesn’t seem like a very good record. And how many of these efforts were in the interest of our own national security? Iraq and Afghanistan come to mind.

      China, on the other hand, is taking over Taiwan and Hong Kong and much of Africa, while building a massive military complex and a huge blue water navy—and that doesn’t even take into consideration its biowarfare efforts, as seen with the Covid pandemic and the recent Chinese biolab found in California.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 6, 2023 / 3:48 pm

      Yeah, not about to be lectured to by ChiComs.

      That said: whatever it was we were trying to do in the Cold War, that’s all over with now. But, man, has that attitude sunk deep into our Establishment. They just can’t leave well enough alone; everything has to be an existential conflict requiring maximum American involvement.

      To be sure, some of this is impelled by contractors smelling profits. Another aspect is government officials and military officers trying to make a name for themselves. But outside that sort of thing, there seems to be an ingrained attitude that the world wants and needs us. That if we aren’t involved then we are somehow lesser as a nation.

      It is time to Return to Normalcy; no alliances, no wars, much smaller Army/Marines. Bring the boys back home; let the world sort itself out.

  12. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 5, 2023 / 2:55 pm

  13. Tim's avatar Tim August 6, 2023 / 7:37 am

    All talk and no action. Flowery words, eloquent speech, massive Intelects, have had the same effect on this world as my 16 years in the U.S. Army.

    None.

    Just like myself, you are a failure. Just like myself, you have achieved nothing lasting in life except maybe a family to outlive you.

    You, just like myself, are a massive failure.

    Eat that for lunch.

  14. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 6, 2023 / 9:23 am

    Just marinate in the absurdity of this headline:

    Transgender manager at Seattle Museum of Pop Culture compares JK Rowling to a ‘cold, heartless, joy-sucking DEMENTOR’ and airbrushes all mentions of author out of Harry Potter exhibition over ‘hateful views’

    So after calling Rowling a “cold, heartless, DEMENTOR” this mentally confused manager claims that Rowling is the hateful one. LMAO. YCMTSU

    Democrats have become human scum

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 6, 2023 / 9:35 am

      If he had the courage of his convictions he would have canceled the exhibition, because you can’t separate the work from the author. The idea that it is possible to honor the work and just erase the author, as if the work sprung full-blown out of the air, is as ridiculous as this man’s personal delusions.

  15. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 6, 2023 / 9:27 am

    Excellent words to live by:

  16. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 6, 2023 / 9:29 am

    This one just made my day:

  17. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 6, 2023 / 9:57 am

    DeSantis is starting to hit on all cylinders … great response. Now just say that you’ll pull out of Ukraine

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 6, 2023 / 12:33 pm

      He’s always been “hitting on all cylinders”—just not with the melodrama we have come to associate with campaigning.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 6, 2023 / 12:59 pm

      In 2016 Trump’s persona, behavior, rhetoric, etc. resonated with a lot of common folks because they’d never experienced it before. It was literally a new dynamic in national politics. DeSantis’ response here is excellent because he points it out without resorting to the same tactics. Trump may get away with it again, and if he does it says a lot more about us than it does about him. I sense the childish name-calling is going to wear thinner and thinner. We’ll see.

  18. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 6, 2023 / 1:05 pm

    On a different subject, the 5-day forecast for northeastern Indiana early this past week was for gradually escalating temperatures beginning Thursday in the low 80s with a high of 87 today. Thursday was around 81, Friday was 79, yesterday was 77, and at 1 PM today it’s 68. Tell me again how you know what the temperature is going to be 50 years from now.

  19. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 6, 2023 / 3:28 pm

    This administration’s single greatest accomplishment, without a doubt, is the security and financial well-being of Conservative meme creators.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 6, 2023 / 3:43 pm

      Digital currency reduces all of us to slavery – but the problem is that most youngsters simply won’t see it.

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