Conservatives: Stop Helping the Left

Never retract. Never explain. Get the job down and let them howl.

That is a quote attributed to 19th century Oxford professor Benjamin Jowett – quite a famous educator in his time. I bring it up because we on our side – the Right side of the political spectrum – need to lay that quote to heart. Why?

Well, the other day Kari Lake made a statement about how the House should annul the 2020 election and install Trump into the White House. I didn’t bother looking deeply into it because such a thing can’t be done and I’ve no time to waste on such things. But lots of people did look into it – naturally ridiculing Lake over it and making a huge fuss out of a few words said by a private citizen on TV. The thing is that huge numbers of people were attacking her from the right.

What possible use is that? What advantage can we possibly gain by joining the Left in attacking one of our own?

Don’t bother telling me that the statement was bad. Of course it was. But where was it handed down from on high that if someone says something ridiculous that everyone has to comment on it? Condemn it? Further: when was the rule established that we have to make sure we condemn any of our own who say or do something stupid? Do the Democrats ever attack their own? Stacy Abrams and her boosters went on for years saying she had won the Georgia gubernatorial race even though it was patently obvious that she hadn’t – and to contrast with Lake, at least in the case of Arizona there remain some very serious questions about whether or not all the GOP ballots were counted and/or whether or not some Democrat ballots were slipped in after the election was over. Abrams lost clearly – and if there was any cheating, it would have been the per-usual cheating Democrats do. So, if anything, Abrams lost by a larger margin than official totals. But, that didn’t stop her, nor her people: claiming for ages that it was fixed and she was the legitimate governor of Georgia. Did you ever hear a single Democrat get out there and ridicule her? Condemn her? Even take mild exception to her position?

No. Not a peep. And to this day Abrams is a highly regarded leader in the Democrat party. Why do we on the Right always participate in Leftist attacks on our own? We do not need to. If one of our commits a crime, you can rely on it that the Establishment will prosecute (and as we see with Trump, even if there isn’t a crime). If one of ours does something immoral, that’s gonna lead the news. So, if one of ours is actually bad, they’re gone. But if one of ours merely says or does something dumb: let them weather the storm. Make a judgement if you want to stand up for them depending on the nature of the mistake…but for goodness sake, don’t help the Democrats destroy them! You don’t have to jump in there. Almost certainly, nobody asked you. And anyone who does ask you is a Democrat operative trying to get GOPers on record condemning a fellow GOPer…simply to make it easier to destroy that GOPer.

If a GOPer/Conservative angers you, here’s an idea: move on. Find a Democrat to attack. Don’t attack the GOPer. That GOPer will be attacked, at length, for actions real and imagined by the regime MSM. Your help is not needed! And nobody cares that you manged to preen yourself on our superior morality by condemning someone on our side.

Unless and until we get to the Democrat level of loyalty to friends and ruthlessness to enemies, we’re simply not going to win.

44 thoughts on “Conservatives: Stop Helping the Left

  1. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 8:40 am

    IMO … American Conservative Republicans have no clue who they’re fighting against. And that’s the problem. We all remember the Democrat riots of the summer of 2020 right? That was America’s Kristallnacht. We all witnessed the ballot stuffing and harvesting of 2020, right? We all remember the Biden’s authoritarian speech dehumanizing MAGA delivered in front of blood red banners, right? We have all witnessed the indefinite imprisonment of J6 trespassers right? And we’re currently watching the unseemly persecution of their political opponents, right? So what the f**k are we doing? Are we waiting for the camps and ovens to be built?

    To quote the post from Tim a few days ago … “anyone who thinks we can talk our way out of this, is delusional”. And that’s 100% correct.

    Imagine if the Founding Fathers sat around asking, “and then what?”. Do you think Dr. John Warren and Samuel Adams were paralyzed by analysis of what was to become once the enemy was vanquished? Hardly. They only knew that they no longer wanted live under the regime currently in charge and then did something about it. That takes courage, something that is lacking in todays mostly docile men, but I do think the confrontation is coming.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 10:23 am

      First of all, drop the “talking our way out of it” crap. You guys make it sound like there is the expectation of a civil debate, maybe with milk and cookies after. What crap.

      Imagine if the Founding Fathers sat around asking, “and then what?”. OF COURSE THEY DIDN’T. They had a plan. They knew they would be dealing with what was, essentially, a blank slate in terms of governance, and they knew that these little discrete (and yes, I mean “discrete”—look it up) states had enough local government to exist until a new federal government could be built. It’s not even just naive, it’s incomprehensible, to think that these men just charged into a rebellion against the most powerful nation on Earth without a thought as to what they would be facing when they succeeded. paralyzed by analysis of what was to become once the enemy was vanquished? How about energized by the prospect of being able to put into play the most audacious plan for governance ever seen?

      They only knew that they no longer wanted live under the regime currently in charge and then did something about it. That’s not even close to accurate. In fact, the colonies sent King George a letter pledging their loyalty and hopes to continue their relationship as a colony of England. What they WANTED was to continue the relationship with England, but just with laws that were more fair to the colonies.

      On October 25, 1774, the First Continental Congress sends a respectful petition to King George III to inform his majesty that if it had not been for the acts of oppression forced upon the colonies by the British Parliament, the American people would be standing behind British rule.

      Despite the anger that the American public felt towards the United Kingdom after the British Parliament established the Coercive Acts—called the Intolerable Acts by the colonists—Congress was still willing to assert its loyalty to the king.

      The actual armed conflict didn’t start till this was rejected, until April of 1775, and even then it wasn’t formally an effort to split away from English rule until the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

      During the period between the rejection of the “Petition to the King” and the official declaration of independence from England, the men who came to be known as the Founding Fathers didn’t just think “oh, what the hell, we’ll just throw ourselves off the cliff and see what happens”. Of course not. They saw the potential to create an amazing new approach to government, to self-government, and this was always part of the effort to separate from England—and that was only after their effort to find a way to remain part of England had failed, unless they capitulated to the new oppressive laws being passed by Parliament.

      Even after a full year of warfare against British forces, the Continental Congress was divided on whether to declare independence. In the meanwhile, in May 1776, Congress narrowly approved a resolution for each colony to create a provisional government. Declaring independence was first officially proposed by Richard Lee of Virginia on June 7, 1776. Congress tabled the suggestion until July 1, but appointed a committee of five men – Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman and Robert Livingston – to draft a a provisional version of such a decree.

      WHAAA? You mean the movers and shakers of the War For Independence actually engaged in, (gasp!) analysis of what the next steps should be! Gee, maybe they weren’t paralyzed by analysis but just smart enough to look ahead and make, you know, plans for dealing with the new situation, once a Continental Congress of colonies would no longer be applicable.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 10:28 am

        You are talking about a totally different scenario. For one thing, you are talking about somehow amputating the top levels of our existing government. With no concept of what to do afterward. With no awareness, for example, of the historical examples of the kind of violence and battles for power that occur when there is this kind of upheaval, as different factions vie for control.

        (Surely, as one well versed in rebellions against authority, you know of the years of bloodshed, violence and chaos that followed the French Revolution. While the actual revolutionaries went home to congratulate themselves on knocking off some of the aristocracy, the nation fell into a bloody mess known later as the Reign of Terror. (The Reign of Terror (French: la Terreur) was a period of the French Revolution when, following the creation of the First Republic, a series of massacres and numerous public executions took place in response to revolutionary fervour, anticlerical sentiment, and accusations of treason by the Committee of Public Safety.) Tear down the scaffolding of orderly government and this is what you get.

        It seems that in this starry-eyed little fantasy of a vague, unanalyzed, Afterward, once the people you don’t like are removed the nation would then settle down into figuring out how to elect a new president, with no mechanism left in place to run an election, and would then accept the outcome. The half of the nation that currently supports the system you want to remove would just go along with the program, and not fight back to reinstate its chosen policies.

        Oh, wait—maybe that’s the goal! Finally, a real civil war! Finally, half of the nation saying “You can’t do that and we’re going to stop you!” and the other half cheering “Yeah! It’s about damned time!” (Except you wouldn’t get that full “other half” because a lot of us/them would be howling “What did you do to our Constitution, you morons?”)

        Finally, a chance to be a Real Man! Water that tree with the blood of liberty! Of course, it would be “liberty” imposed by the people with the most guns, but omelets/eggs, right?

        We’ve already got millions who hate our Constitution. Why would they agree to pick up what is left of it after it has been so cheerfully violated and put it back in place?

        I’m seeing a cockamamie fantasy by some keyboard warriors with delusions of being Tier One operators, charging up Capitol Hill with guns blazing to Save The Republic—by destroying it. But never fear, THEY will never be paralyzed by analysis of what is to become once the enemy is vanquished. That’s for the weak, the “docile”.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 10:45 am

        I’m seeing a cockamamie fantasy by some keyboard warriors with delusions of being Tier One operators, charging up Capitol Hill with guns blazing to Save The Republic

        And that’s the problem. The delusions become fantastical and the mission and focus are lost. It doesn’t have to be “guns a blazing” but if we deride those who are prepared to do just that, what are we accomplishing?? Nothing.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 12:01 pm

        Look I’m not advocating “guns a blazing” BUT we had better be prepared for that considering the recent violent actions of Democrats. All options on the table, and just because this is 2023, the firm notion that we’re all supposed to be more “civilized” than our forefathers will be to our peril.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 7, 2023 / 11:49 pm

      The mechanisms still exist to change things – it is tough; I get that. And we, in the end, might fail. But I’ll keep trying.

  2. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 12:08 pm

    Ron just lost a cylinder ….

    When pressed about the matter of who won the 2020 election, Governor Ron DeSantis (R-FL) said in an interview with NBC News, “Of course, he [Trump] lost…Joe Biden is the president.”

    Ron just bended to the professional class media who demands that everyone comply with their narrative. What’s wrong with saying “there are many people who question the censorship and the ballot counting of 2020 election, and I think those concerns need to be vetted”

    https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-desantis-says-of-course-he-lost-when-grilled-about-trump-2020-election-hulk/

  3. jdge's avatar jdge1 August 7, 2023 / 12:28 pm

    A family member was discussing a Ben Shapiro article that talks about marketing used to control people’s minds (and therefore their actions).

    First, you have the World Economic Forum, the WEF, and their platform for shaping the future of media, entertainment and culture. Second, you have the World Federation of Advertisers, the WFA, who represent mega-corporations that control 90% of global advertising dollars. WFA members are a who’s who of global business and include some of our recent wokeified favorites like Bud Light’s parent company Anheuser-Busch InBev, Hershey, Procter & Gamble, Lego and Disney.

    There is barely a billionaire Fortune 500 CEO, heavyweight philanthropist, government or woke nonprofit that isn’t associated with the WEF or the WFA.

    … For example, the framework lists subjective terms like “hate speech” as a problem. It says that anything surrounding transgenderism that they decide is dehumanizing or discussing what they deem to be a debated social issue in an insensitive way is off limits. The framework is deliberately vague, allowing those in control to pick and choose how they enforce it and against whom.

    The master of false marketing and lies is satan. His aim is to lie, steal and destroy. He is making considerable advances, only most people don’t see it.

    Dr. John Clauser from the Brownstone Institute has an article; “The Crisis of Pseudoscience”, which falls into the same category. It’s all a marketing scheme for get people to buy into the sheeple mentality to depart with their money and/or freedoms. This scheme is often coupled with the term, “for the good of…”.

    This was used in the covid scandal, telling people to wear masks, pushing people into deadly hospital stays, forcing the experimental vax onto the population while at the same time condemning highly successful treatments (ivermectin / hydroxychloroquine), creating the loss of businesses, food shortages, escalated costs of goods – especially building materials & housing, etc…

    Perception of truth frequently differs significantly from real truth. Moreover, given sufficient promotion and advertising, perception of truth becomes truth. Its promotion by commercial enterprise Is called marketing, commonly used in the furtherance of political, commercial, or various opportunistic ends by its promoters. When promotion is done by government or political groups, it’s called spin or propaganda.

    My favorite in this act is ChatGPT. It’s very good at doing exactly that. It has lots of man-made pseudoscience to copy and manipulate and emulate. It can lie and cheat even better than its human mentors whose writings are abundant in literature. In literature, you will observe there’s far more fiction than there is nonfiction. Pseudoscience is science fiction. Unfortunately, neither computers nor human fact-checkers can, in general, tell fact from fiction. Or science from science fiction or from pseudoscience.

    AI (artificial intelligence) is being used as a major component of this effort too. It is a huge player in forming people’s perceptions and beliefs, which in turn dictates their spending, choices of what freedoms to retain or give up, and if giving them up, to whom.

    Even church leaders right up to the Pope are involved as Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò writes;

    The infernal plans of the globalist elite – which we have seen to be inherently evil – are also consistent with each other, because they are moved by the adversary’s hatred of Christ. Bill Gates’ project to obscure the sun and vaccinate the world’s population; Soros’ plan to invade Western countries by hordes of Muslims and undermine the natural family by financing the woke and LGBT movements; Klaus Schwab’s plan to force us to eat insects or confine ourselves to 15‐minute “smart cities”; Harari’s plan to erase the idea of a transcendent God and compose a “politically correct” Bible; the plan of the deep state to centralize control of citizens by means of digital ID, electronic money and the manipulation of the vote; Bergoglio’s (Pope Francis) plan to transform the Church into an agency of the U.N. and the World Economic Forum – none of these are completely separate plans carried out autonomously and without any relationship between them.

    But Archbp. Vigano also points out;
    Our observation of the organizational efficiency of the wicked should not frighten us, nor make us desist from fighting against their plans. Indeed, I believe that it is precisely this “perfection” in the enemy camp that will end up constituting its own condemnation: – they will either stand or fall together. And it will be exactly so, because the triumph of evil is a fiction, a simulation, merely the staging of a scene, a scene that is based – like everything that comes from Satan – on appearance and lies.

    Let’s go back for a moment to Easter of the year A.D. 33. Let us place ourselves among those in Jerusalem who witnessed Jesus’ Crucifixion, after seeing Him perform miracles and healings. Even on Golgotha, in the absence of the apostles, Lucifer’s staging should have ratified the defeat of the Messiah, the dispersion of His disciples, the consignment of His teaching to oblivion, and the disavowal of His Divinity.

    The infernal fraud of globalism is doomed to total failure: on this point there can be not the slightest doubt. The Babel of the New Order will collapse under the weight of his lies, the unmistakable mark of the work of the devil. The task that falls to us is to proclaim the truth, to remind the world that salvation comes only from Christ, the Prince of Peace, whose Lordship over the nations and over the Church, which has been usurped by a rebellious and corrupt authority, must be restored.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 2:56 pm

      Most of us here have acknowledged that this current battle we are in, is not political. It’s spiritual.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 7, 2023 / 11:58 pm

      There is no question that the current system will be destroyed – it is based upon insane lies and so it cannot survive. The only questions are when it gets destroyed and how much damage it does before it is destroyed. And do keep in mind that the most powerful entities in history seemed the strongest right before they collapsed. Nobody in 376 AD thought the Roman Empire would fall – a century later it was gone.

      And I do think they have at last really overreached: the Trans issue is wrecking them. They have to proclaim in full public what every sane person knows is false. The only people joining their chorus are people who are dependent on them for their positions. Earlier today in my Twitter (X-er?) feed I saw a story about some rapper who had apparently made a statement judged insensitive by the Trans Gestapo and his publicist had put out one of those rote apologies we always see…but then the rapper (I can’t recall his name, unfortunately) disavowed the apology – saying he’s raising 7 kids and he’ll be damned before he lets anyone expose them to gender ideology. That’s a man: standing up for his own. Maybe he’s twenty different versions of bad on other things, but he knows his job is to protect his kids, come what may. Parents – aside from lunatics who get off on transitioning their children – simply don’t want this to happen. They don’t want their little girl told in school that she’s a little boy. This might be the bridge too far for the Left.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 8, 2023 / 12:04 am

        It came back in the TL – guys rap name is Ne-Yo:

  4. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 7, 2023 / 3:22 pm

    A new addition to the YCMTSU file:

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook August 7, 2023 / 5:17 pm

      Leftists are generally challenged when it comes to self-awareness, but this really takes the cake.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 6:17 pm

      Their self awareness is zero

  5. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 7, 2023 / 6:34 pm

    So Amazona I guess I have the same question for you … “then what”. I’ve tried to answer that question to the best of my ability as I see it, so I’m curious how you see it. What if the Left/Democrats refuse to engage in any debate on the systems of Constitutional governance? Then what? What if Democrats continue to promote propaganda, persecute political rivals, ballot harvest, and suspiciously win the 2024 election? Then what? What if there is another pandemic and we are locked out of our business’s and schools again? Then what? What if government sponsored censorship reaches this blog and all of us are censored and labeled extreme? Then what?

    Most of these things have already happened, and they’re going to happen again. Sure as the sun rises in the east. Unless stopped. Democrats refuse to constructively engage with anyone who opposes them, and they have partisan activists in positions of power all throughout the country. So what do we do? Do you think we have enough time to take over school boards, city councils, and state legislators? I don’t. I think we’re 20 years behind the 8 ball and we’re just realizing that.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 9:34 pm

      What if the Left/Democrats refuse to engage in any debate on the systems of Constitutional governance?

      Define “the Democrats”. As I have said, there are tiers of Leftists. There is the leadership of the International Left, which is anonymous to people like us. Then below them are the visible leaders, internationally (Soros, et al) and then in the United States we have anonymous controllers who pull the strings on the face of the Left in this country—-Obama., Pelosi, Schumer, and so on.

      It would be silly, and futile to try to engage any of these people. F ’em.

      OK, now we’re moving into the masses. There is the contingent represented by the likes of Bernie Sanders, AOC, et al. Again—F ’em. Don’t waste a minute on them. Don’t even bother. They are pseudo-ideologues. You can include internet trolls in this garbage heap. They don’t care about facts, they just care about the rush they get from being attackers.

      Moving on—now we are at the Useful Idiot level, mostly the “journalists” but also the pundits. Again, don’t even bother.

      Still counting votes? What are you up to now? 20,000? 50,000? Turn ’em loose. Let ’em go. They are noisy and might have some influence, but basically they are just noise. Go ahead and toss in the protesters, the P-hatters and the want-porn-in-schools people while you’re at it. You still don’t have very big numbers.

      Now we are getting into the core of Democrat votes. And buried deep in this mass are hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of decent human beings. Not the smartest of us, I admit, or they wouldn’t be sucked in by the rhetoric, but they are not committed to a political system as such. They want to be good people, but our entire system is set up now to make it nearly impossible for people like this to ever hear anything but the propaganda from the Left.

      I’m as frustrated as anyone else about these people. They are lazy, both intellectually and politically. They are inner-focused: They go to work, they go to their kids’ sports events, they go to movies, they watch network TV for entertainment, they worry about how to pay the bills, but they are not motivated to drill down into the problems of the country to try to understand them. They are easily frightened, which means they are easily manipulated. They are emotion-governed, and they are tribal. Chuck Schumer is of their tribe, so they can’t believe that he would lie to them. All they have heard from the Democrat Party is that it is the shortcut to the Higher Moral Ground, and that’s really hard to give up. And most of them are Legacy Democrats, who are Dems because their parents were, never looking at the difference between 60s Dems or even 80s Dems and what we have now.

      So how many of them would we need to shift to shift an election? 10%? 20%? These are the people we try to talk to. And for now focus on the states where a shift will make a difference.
      According to a couple of post-election polls, something like 15% of Biden voters said if they had known the facts about the Hunter laptop they would not have voted for Biden. And don’t worry about places like Michigan or Illinois. They are lost causes. Look at the few states that swung the last election, and figure out how many of those citizens need to be contacted, approached, and given good information.

      How do we talk to them? First, we analyze the biggest speed bumps in getting through them. That lies in Identity Politics, and like it or not the biggest obstacle we have right now in getting many of these people to open their minds is Donald Trump. Think they are stupid, think they are evil, think they are demon-possessed, think whatever you like about them. The fact is that they have had ten years of nonstop very effective media-driven celebrity-supported propaganda about the man to the point where he could be proved to have single-handedly found the cure for cancer and solved nuclear fusion and it simply would not matter. Waste all the time you want trying to change their minds, and it won’t matter. Count on Magical Thinking and the fairy dust that will provide enough votes from people who already support him to carry the day. But the smart money is just on removing the speed bump and focusing energy now wasted on trying to change peoples’ minds to giving them the information they need to stop being stupid. But stop thinking of “the Democrats” and break the problem down into manageable chunks. I hate to use an elephant as an example, being a Republican and all, but the old saying is that you eat an elephant one bite at a time. Stop with the macro and focus on the micro.

      Then we stop fighting the fight the Left has laid out for us, because as long as we fight their fight they will win. That is, stop running against Democrats and start running against Leftism. Stop running against Joe Biden and start running against the idea that one man can sign one document and bring the entire nation to its knees, destroying its economy and crippling its education and forcing people to bend the knee to voodoo “science” which is really just feeding the corruption of the leadership or lose jobs and even the freedom to travel. People get defensive of other people when they are attacked, but are much less defensive of policies and ideas.

      What kind of grass-roots conservative movement is there in Arizona to pressure the state legislature to take preemptive action against election fraud in 2024? How many states needed to stand up in 2020 and refuse to certify obviously fraudulent vote counts? Who was held accountable for the election frauds in Arizona, both national and statewide? What changes could your state make to make it harder to cheat next time? What changes could be made in your state to make it a lot more scary to cheat, because the penalties are so much greater? Are we going to forever refuse to be proactive, and instead just wait till we get blindsided and then play catch-up and defense?

      Finally, remember the power of the presidency. The right man in the White House could, in his first week, solve 90% of the problems we have now. Slashing agencies, moving agencies out of the Beltway, pruning the FBI down to its bare minimum for actual crime fighting, appointing an AG who is fearless and aggressive who will start to prosecute the crimes we now just fume over, weeding out useless flag officers in the military and promoting based on merit and dedication to the nation, etc. Actually using the power of the presidency to lead Congress to try to get rid of the income tax and replace it with a consumption tax (Fair Tax) which would gut the IRS and reduce it to accounting and minimal enforcement.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 9:39 pm

      Do you think we have enough time to take over school boards, city councils, and state legislators? No, and whose fault is that? But we can either shrug and say “Oh, well, it’s too late now” and give up, or we can look at what we CAN do now. I think one thing we can do is start a major campaign at least in every swing state demanding that the state legislature pass laws NOW to tighten up election security. And, more to the point, get some publicity about plans to hold people accountable, even if the legislature won’t.

      What were the weak points in efforts in 2020? Judges and state legislatures and officers. There is still time to make it clear that when/if judges and legislatures and officers abuse their positions to advance their own political agendas there will be recalls, there will be lawsuits, there will be ten kinds of hell brought down upon them. They are so used to being invisible, and having their dictates just kind of slide by—drag them out in public.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 9:55 pm

        I am not going to advocate for election fraud. I would never do that, and never approve of it.

        I would, however, advocate for the idea of using the dirty tricks of the Left against them. For example, if they demand unmonitored drop boxes and unlimited ballot harvesting, harvest the hell out of them, flood them with so many ballots that they have a hard time sorting out the good ones from the bogus ones. If they usually just rubber stamp every mail ballot that comes in with or without a signature or coming from a registered voter, then let them deal with thousands of such ballots, tens of thousands of them—-and then demand that none of them be counted, because that would be election fraud because they are clearly not legitimate. Make them throw out the ones they want to keep because they are planted to help the Left, because there are so many it is no longer feasible to tell which are theirs and which aren’t. Make mail-in voting so untenable by illustrating how easy it is to screw up an election when there is no real control over the votes that they have to give it up.

        Demand, loudly and publicly, to have the actual number of mailed ballots made public, and then matched against the number received. That is so obvious, but I don’t think anyone has done it. So if a state has all mailed ballots, like Colorado does, and mails out 2 million ballots but gets back 2.1 million, throw out the entire election for that state because it is literally impossible to validate every single mailed ballot. Too bad, Coloradans, but you elected A-holes whose politics just cost you your ability to participate in the electoral process. Votes have consequences, and they can be a lot worse than having to pay ten cents for a plastic bag at the store.

        Form a publicly announced committee right now with the stated intent of suing whoever is responsible for purging the voter registration rolls if people get ballots after moving or dying.

        Is there ANYTHING your state GOP can or will do?

        You don’t need a gun to be intimidating and effective. You just need to have the will, and the energy.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 7, 2023 / 10:28 pm

        Just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona, and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a 269-269 Electoral College tie, which likely would have meant the GOP incumbent’s reelection.

        there seems to be one thing that voters from all parties agree on: They reject the idea of a “one-party country,” as Rasmussen Reports pointed out in a survey released on Monday.

        According to Rasmussen, “only 15% of voters think the United States would be better off if it had just one political party.” Given the hostilities and political tension, the only surprising revelation from this poll is probably that the number is as high as it is. With Democrats and Republicans continually at each other’s throats, one could logically assume that few, if any, people would want one-party rule, let alone 15% of voters. Conversely, on the flip side, the poll revealed that 71% would not favor a one-party government, while another 14% claimed they were not sure.

        So run on this, not on people.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 9:17 am

        I’ve said before, if Trump wins, all our problems are solved. BUT it’s going to take the right person at the very top of the hierarchy at this moment to effect the change we need. The 10%-20% of Leftist Democrats you accurately identified, are all in positions of power ie; pelosi, schumer, the media hacks, the bureaucracy class, the academia class, the medical class, and the judicial class. Obama effected the “fundamental transformation” he promised and conservatives are just now waking up to that.

        So you’re right, we can stuff the ballot boxes just like they can, BUT what we currently can’t do, is question those results. You mentioned Demand, loudly and publicly, to have the actual number of mailed ballots made public, and then matched against the number received, which I agree with BUT Kari Lake is trying to do just that and the Leftist judges are not allowing it, and the leftist media is not covering it. Moreover, the State GOP is not doing anything currently to put preventative measures in to secure the next election. The number of unverified signature ballots in AZ from 2020 is in the tens of thousands in an election decided by just a few thousand votes, and yet NO ONE HAS THE WILL TO FIGHT.

        What kind of grass roots movement is there in AZ??? Not much. Most people are effectively bullied at this point. Many people are noticing what’s happening with J6 protestors and that has had a silencing effect. Mark has a another good example in his post about the rapper, who retracted an apology, but that is rare. Yesterday Jennifer Aniston had to apologize for liking a post that said the Jewish Pharisees killed Jesus. Now that’s an accurate post but definitely outside the accepted narrative boundaries. So sure, we can begin to educate these people, but at this point, they are afraid of their own shadow.

        So what if they declare another pandemic, and the millions of sheep fall in line again? What if they declare B4V hate speech and shut it down? Enrique Tarrio was not even in Washington DC on J6 and yet he is in prison. We’ve discussed ad nauseam the machinations needed to exact good governance and so far, we keep falling behind. Sure, in 2020 we were just a few thousand votes away in a few critical swing states from winning, but that was just their first attempt. They now know they can steal an election and you can rest assure that they are perfecting their methods.

        Have you heard from anyone in Hong Kong lately? Can you imagine being a student in Hong Kong who objects to the new authoritarian rule?? They’re f***ed. They have no recourse. They are not armed. But we are. Communism creeps slowly until it’s too late to do anything. We are in that creep and we have but a very short time to correct the course. If Trump wins, no problem. If DeSantis wins, maybe no problem. If anyone else wins, we’re still in a fight. The only thing that is purely American, is the willingness to protect your God given rights with force. And I am prepared. Give me liberty, or give me death.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 10:46 am

        The 10%-20% of Leftist Democrats you accurately identified, are all in positions of power ie; pelosi, schumer, the media hacks, the bureaucracy class, the academia class, the medical class, and the judicial class. Correct. But the math still holds. They are a small minority, and furthermore they are dependent on the structure of their system to hold them up. The Bureaucratic Class is fragile in that it can be shattered by the right president. Media can be brought to its knees by a consortium of wealthy conservatives who buy a network—it hasn’t been done, for some unfathomable reason, but it’s something that could be done. The Complicit Agenda Media have already taken a hit at CNN—maybe John Malone is finally starting to have some influence there. Pelosi won’t be around long—nature has its own term limits.

        The judicial class is probably the most damaging, but judges are sensitive creatures, and their egos don’t like to be held up to ridicule. Pressure can be brought to bear on existing judges. For example, the complaint against the judge in one of Trump’s cases is that she has a conflict of interest, but it should be that she’s either incompetent or dishonest. She openly stated that he was accused of trying to overthrow the government. She, as a judge, on the bench, took the lie that he tried to “overturn the election” and then, using the power and status of the bench, expanded that into a much greater crime of “trying to OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT”. But we don’t practice guerilla warfare on judges, flooding social media with scornful comments calling them stupid and/or corrupt when they pull crap like this. We act like the only way to deal with problems like this is to get rid of them, Sure, that would be great, but in the meantime we can at least partially neuter them by making it clear that egregiously biased and factually wrong statements like this WILL be outed, with as much embarrassment as possible for the judge in question.

        Many people are noticing what’s happening with J6 protestors and that has had a silencing effect. And whose fault is that? Where have you see the few voices we do have loudly citing the Constitution regarding the absolute right to speedy trials, and the ability to face accusers ? Where have you seen the names of the abusers made public, and accused of human rights violations?

        But you may be right. It might be hopeless. As long as we remain confused, disorganized, without a plan, milling around in baffled disarray, while the Left remains tightly organized and therefore effective, we might as well just fold up in defeat—and then start plinking away at a few symbolic targets because that makes us feel better. You say until we have toprotect your God given rights with forcebut no one has been able to say just who that “force” would be directed at, or what effect it might have if employed.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 9:24 am

        And when we currently have Republicans like Mitt Romney, Lindsay Graham, Mitch McConnell, and Susan Collins, is it really a two party system? The Democrats are clamoring for a return to the “John McCain” type Republican party, which you and I both know is a joke, but is that the kind of two party system American wants? Because that doesn’t get it done either.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 10:23 am

        And then there’s this

        NOW WE HAVE PROOF! TGP EXCLUSIVE: Massive 2020 Voter Fraud Uncovered in Michigan – Police Find: TENS OF THOUSANDS of Fake Registrations, Bags of Pre-Paid Gift Cards, Guns with Silencers, Burner Phones, and a Democrat-Funded Organization with Multiple Temporary Facilities in Several States

        This is what “full discovery” will look like in Trump’s recent indictment. I think the Democrats may have made a mistake, and we should make them pay.

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/now-we-have-proof-tgp-exclusive-massive-2020/

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 11:09 am

        This is amazing. Not surprising, but amazing. Now we need to see who will be prosecuted for election fraud, conspiracy to commit election fraud, etc.

        Most of the original complaints about election fraud were dismissed on the claim of lack of standing. That is, you have to have a dog in the hunt before you can claim it was rigged. Maybe it’s time to file some lawsuits against the state governments in Michigan and Arizona, at the very least, claiming conspiracy to commit fraud and deprive citizens of their constitutional rights, and let the SCOTUS rule on standing. I would argue that (1) any citizen of Arizona has standing in a suit against Arizona officials, (2) any citizen of Michigan has standing in any suit against any Michigan official, and I’d go farther and say any citizen of the United States has standing in any suit brought against anyone whose illegal actions affected the outcome of a presidential election.

        Go for broke and file federal charges against the people involved in either committing the crimes or covering them up on RICO offenses;

        Under RICO, a person who has committed “at least two acts of racketeering activity” drawn from a list of 35 crimes (27 federal crimes and eight state crimes) within a 10-year period can be charged with racketeering if such acts are related in one of four specified ways to an “enterprise.” If “enterprise” is defined as a goal or agenda, and not a physical entity like a company, then the takeover of a federal election and by extension control of the federal government would surely be considered an “enterprise”.

        Federal crimes include mail fraud, identity theft and electoral fraud. There are probably (toothless) laws against electoral fraud in Arizona and Michigan as well.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 11:47 am

        Why don’t we all write to our Congress critters and demand that Congress investigate this? Take it out of the hands of corrupt and/or inept and/or intimidated state officials?

        This kind of corruption investigation is right in the wheelhouse of Hageman, Banks, Jordan, Lee, et al.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 12:21 pm

        It is in their wheel house but currently they are sitting on mountains of evidence that Joe Biden, through his son Hunter, has sold access to American foreign policy and so far … crickets. They MUST open Articles of Impeachment in September. Right now, I’m just hoping they’ll do that.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 1:54 pm

        OK, Cluster, wait for it……

        …..And then what?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 4:47 pm

        Lol. Be grateful though. There is only one KING

  6. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 9:45 am

    Good article but let’s be clear. Mitt Romney’s kids, Pelosi’s son, Harry Reid’s boys, etc. etc. have all profited off of access and the only way they can do that, is because of career politicians. The power corridors are wholly corrupt, and Trump knows it, and will do something about it. That’s why they hate him

    Sweaty cretins always gravitate toward each other, so Hunter soon found a pack of pals in Archer, Chris Heinz (the stepson of private-plane-loving John Kerry) and others.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12336751/Yet-damning-evidence-Biden-family-corruption-acid-tongued-TV-pundit-KENNEDY-writes-DailyMail-com-demand-Joe-just-utterly-incompetent-damn-thing.html

    • fortyacresbeyond's avatar fortyacresbeyond August 8, 2023 / 3:49 pm

      As an experiment you were allowed to post to see if you were interested in participating in the blog discussions. However every post was an insult or an attack. That is why your posts are removed.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan August 8, 2023 / 5:48 pm

        Trump was in office for 4 years and came into it fabulously rich…as were his children.

      • fortyacresbeyond's avatar fortyacresbeyond August 8, 2023 / 6:17 pm

        As an experiment you were allowed to post to see if you were interested in participating in the blog discussions. However every post was an insult or an attack. That is why your posts are removed.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 8:51 pm

        All of the Trump’s run very successful businesses, thanks to their upbringing from a man who demanded accountability. They have very popular and legitimate products and services. The others I mentioned have nothing of the sort. Besides, do you honestly think that if there were illegalities, people like Hack Smith wouldn’t be all over it? Sorry Forty, another swing and a miss

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 9, 2023 / 7:20 am

        LMAO, says the covid booster man who obsessed with everything Trump. You’re just jealous. The Trumps are far better people and business people than you’ll ever be. And better business people than most American honestly. And you quoted Chris Christie hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  7. jdge's avatar jdge1 August 8, 2023 / 10:17 am

    Interesting take on an article that I had not thought about before.

    “Listen carefully: Trump is about to play an ace card,” Jim Ferguson, a former UK Parliamentary candidate, wrote in response to Halper-Hayes’s comments. “He can subpoena and call witnesses. It’s all about to all come out. ‘Trump has got the goods’ He has the evidence of it all.”

    If / when Trump goes to trial, won’t his legal team be able to bring witnesses and evidence of voter fraud that has so far been squelched by the courts? I’m guessing the prosecutors will want to suppress this using whatever tactics the law allows and for sure certain leftist judges will also use the power of the bench to minimize Trump’s legal team from presenting certain evidence, but I can’t see how these trials won’t be highly publicized and judges & prosecutors don’t have unlimited discretion on what comes out in court as that would give Trump’s team a means to appeal, or worse yet, the judge(s) / prosecutors get sanctioned or disbarred.

    I’ve also read Trump’s team are or will try to appeal to the Supreme Court to have the cases thrown out. I doubt that court will intervene at this point of the junction, but could very well do so if the trial shows itself to be a sham, or if Trump is found guilty. Should the high court throw out the verdict that would look bad for both the prosecutors and judge. But maybe they don’t care. Their ploy could simply be to tie up Trump’s time and money and influence voters, regardless of what comes from the trial.

    But back to the article comment. I’m guessing this could be the “foot in the door” to finally bring evidence to light, to get actual wrong-doings and witnesses on record.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 10:23 am

      Should the high court throw out the verdict that would look bad for both the prosecutors and judge but it would advance the larger agenda of adding to the hysteria about the Supreme Court.

      The Left plays the long game. The presidency is the short game. The long game is to get rid of a functional, objective, Supreme Court.

      But I do like the idea of getting this hidden information out into the public—if we can, of course. We need a network to be able to do that. I don’t see any conservative money being put up to buy NBC from Disney.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 10:24 am

      Called, full discovery. This could be fun

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona August 8, 2023 / 1:55 pm

      What state is she talking about?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster August 9, 2023 / 7:18 am

        Good question, not sure. Could be and number of them.

  8. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 12:41 pm

    I am unvaccinated. I am MAGA. Thus I am a direct threat to this current government … and proud of it

  9. jdge's avatar jdge1 August 8, 2023 / 1:18 pm

    Now that Bidum has drained the US oil reserve, gas prices are starting to climb again. This oil reserve drain was in part due to the US (Bidum) selling crude oil to China, who is now said to have the worlds larges oil reserve.

    “China ramped up its purchases of crude oil from Russia and the United States to boost its own reserves, even as oil prices surged and President Biden called for a coordinated release,” House Energy and Commerce Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., and former GOP Rep. Fred Upton wrote to Granholm last year.

    “As a result, China may now control the world’s largest stockpile of oil, with total crude inventories estimated at 950 million barrels,” they added.

    Many voters have short memories and tend to hang on the latest front-page news, which is one reason the left will do whatever they can to place Trump’s trials smack in the middle of the election cycle. However, if gas prices continue to climb towards or beyond the $4.50 – 5.00 mark, this will have a significant impact on the political left. For the unexamined voter it generally doesn’t matter WHY a particular piece of bad news is unfolding, only that whoever is in office at the time is holding the hot potato. And Bidum is juggling a LOT of hot potatoes including his connection to his son’s business dealings, boxes of classified material in his possession (which doesn’t seem particularly damaging at the moment but should prove relevant once Trump’s trial on this issue come front and center), and considerable cognitive decline. We’re still over a year away from election day and Bidum is the gift that keeps on giving. With his extensive time in office and penchant to blunders, this makes me wonder how the controlling forces of the demoncrat party can hold it all together, especially when the downline elections are so crucial. We’ve talk about the how the culmination of lies will eventually become too great to hold together that it will cause the fall of those who perpetrate them. Increased gas prices will be another straw on the camel’s back.

  10. Cluster's avatar Cluster August 8, 2023 / 1:54 pm

    The single greatest achievement of President Donald J. Trump, towering above all others, was his exposure of the crooked and deceitful ways of the “bipartisan” ruling class at the highest levels of Government. All efforts of his opponents, whether they be openly leftist Democrat or two-faced RINOs, are directed at returning things to their detestable “business as usual,” in which the shadier a politician is, the more he/she succeeds in gaining power and wealth. That is the sinister stage on which the presidential election cycle of 2024 is set. We cannot afford to fumble that ball at this critical juncture.

    https://www.gopusa.com/why-desantis-supporters-eventually-go-full-liz-cheney/

    • jdge's avatar jdge1 August 8, 2023 / 6:14 pm

      I’m a little amazed at the political writers trying to place a line in the sand with sound bites and declarations of made-up rights & wrongs. DeSantis has shown himself to govern in the conservative mode for some time now and I haven’t seen any indication of that faltering. Like EVERY other politician, it is very likely he has loyalties and (financial) supporters that need to be appeased. That however does not demand ignoring your base.

      Prior to being elected president I fully anticipated Trump would govern in a way that catered to the swamp. Most thankfully, that’s not been the case. That’s not to say I agree with everything Trump says or does. Quite the opposite. I’m guessing there’s never been a politician we all agree with, all the time. Looking at the big picture however, Trump has been a Godsend. I too wish those responsible for wrongly villainizing him are punished along with a good many other crooked politicians / judges / DA’s / AG’s, etc., regardless of how it’s done (within the law) or who makes it happen.

      At this point, I see both Trump and DeSantis as being fully capable and willing to the task of fighting and righting the direction of the country in a big way. Neither are perfect, nor will they be. Attempting to tear one down in and aim to help boost the other appears nothing but destructive folly. I’m all for pointing out (real) defects and short comings of any potential political office holder, and both of them have several.

      Instead, he has destroyed his credibility with Conservative America, and possibly sacrificed his entire political future. (News to me – I don’t see it)

      On the other hand, it is much more likely thatthe “Big Money” brokers, whose financial support has become central to almost any candidacy these days, gave him the ultimatum either to move now or lose their backing. (?? based on ??)

      Or it may be just a matter of uncontained ego and ambition, which is the most pervasive character trait among high level politicians.

      The writer of the article you linked to makes some unsubstantiated remarks about DeSantis or remarks that could just as easily be applied to Trump – uncontained ego and ambition. Sorry but, its value seems nothing more than a personal attack attempting to sound like valid political discourse.

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