Open Thread

Satanist erected a statue in the Iowa capitol and a Christian man knocked it down. We are now solemnly informed that this isn’t the way. That if we don’t allow that speech we won’t be able to speak, ourselves. This is just the sort of Libertarian/Progressive drivel that has nearly destroyed Civilization this past century. It is simply untrue that I am only able to be free when I’m covered in filth.

Freedom is not the ability to do anything you want: it is the ability to freely choose to do the right thing. Conservatives used to understand this but after a century of merely Conserving Progressive mistakes, this has been lost. The basic American Conservative of 2023 would fit right in with the Progressives of 1923. The modern American Conservative is in favor of Big Business, of foreign alliances and of allowing the wicked to operate freely – once again, on the stupid theory that if we don’t allow evil, we can’t have good.

This notion must be utterly rejected. There are some ideas so bad that they must be forcibly rejected. That particular Satan statue was just another in a series erected by vulgar nincompoops who do that just to insult Christians (they always seek to erect their garbage at Easter or Christmas; if they were really trying to do something for themselves rather than against Christians, they’d pick a day in June). In truth, such a statue is the least of our worries, but it is of the same species as all the other attacks on decency and logic which we are told we must defend if we’re to have decency and logic. But all of this is like telling a young man or woman that their best chance of remaining chaste is to go work in a brothel. It just doesn’t work like that. To have decency and logic we must defend decency and logic – and condemn, ostracize and punish the indecent and illogical.

Why? Well, that Senate staffer getting it on in a committee room is why. Think about the chain of events – the thought process – which brought those two men to that decision. What was missing in both of them was the least sense of decency or the least appreciation of logic. Their whole being is nothing but unreasonable indecency. This has nothing to do with the particular type of sex – it would have been just as bad had it been a man and woman engaging in the action. The fact that two adults thought it a good idea to have sex in a Senate room is a negation of every last aspect of civilization. Sure, the guy got fired – but do you think there will be further punishment? Do you doubt the man will get a good job somewhere else? He’s already out there attacking those who condemned his action – we’re denying his love, don’t you see? That he and his friend could have got a hotel room and done the same thing and nobody would have a complaint doesn’t even register…he and his friend thought it was a good idea and we’re all supposed to accept that.

How is our civilization supposed to survive with people like that? People who clearly don’t think there was anything wrong with what they did?

We’re hanging by a thread here, guys. A recent poll shows a majority of 18-24 year olds think that the solution to the war in Gaza is to turn Israel over to Hamas. This is insane…but really no more insane than a couple people bumping uglies in a Senate room. We’re getting precisely what we allowed…and now we’ve got a rising generation that would vote for Hitler if he offered to annul student loans. Guys, he was a vegetarian, non-smoking, non-drinking former art student; he’s tailor made for the run of the mill AntiFa activist. He was also a badly educated momma’s boy who thought he had special knowledge. Sound familiar?

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    • Cluster's avatar Cluster December 17, 2023 / 2:22 pm

      Priceless. I think Mika and Joe are losing their minds. The Left has done everything in their power to destroy Trump, and yet the American people just keep saying … nope, he’s our guy lol

      The motto of the United Sates is “in God we trust” that excludes all Satanic public displays period, and those who argue for it, should be ignored, shamed and mocked, just as those who currently support Hamas. I do think the Democrats have gone too far. Most Americans still have decency and common sense, somethings of which Democrats have lost touch with.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan December 17, 2023 / 3:44 pm

        We certainly hope so – because if we can’t win then in a few years the rising generation will take charge and they will finish off America.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 17, 2023 / 11:09 pm

        What I think is interesting is that so many people think DeSantis would be a better president but still back Trump. I think it’s that American sense of fair play, backlash against the State and its abuse of power to try to crush him. And it’s not just “him”—-it’s the heavy jackboot of the State crushing anyone in its way. I think there is a sense that Trump will be the weapon that can take it down.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 17, 2023 / 11:12 pm

        I don’t think many, if any, truly do worship Satan. These are people who cannot worship anything but themselves. But there is that juvenile glee in poking people in the eye, upsetting them by being outrageous.

        We talk a lot about evil, but I don’t see most of these people truly being evil in and of themselves. They are truly just banal, just shallow boring stupid people. True, their acts are evil, but I don’t see enough power in these people to actually BE evil themselves. They are mere mindless tools.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster December 18, 2023 / 8:19 am

        I think it’s that American sense of fair play, backlash against the State and its abuse of power to try to crush him.

        I think that’s 100% correct. And Trump is just symbol for the “every man”. If they can do this to Trump, they’ll do it to anyone.

  1. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 17, 2023 / 1:45 pm

    As 2023 winds down, this seems like a good theme moving forward:

    • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah December 17, 2023 / 8:40 pm

      Yes, but unfortunately, for them we will have to fertilize the ground with them before people can be free from them.

  2. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 18, 2023 / 9:15 am

    Sounds like some very dirty threads are about to become unraveled. I’m referring to the part about the missing unredacted Crossfire Hurricane binder. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster December 18, 2023 / 9:40 am

      Hell of a story. The Democrat/FBI/Media cabal is coming apart at the seams

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 18, 2023 / 10:49 am

      This merely confirms what so many of us thought about the raid on Mar-A-Lago: That it was to retrieve the files on government abuses of power in the “Russian Collusion” Operation Crossfire debacle.

      This story sheds a lot of light on events over the last two years, like the unprecedented raid on Trump’s house. But the FBI couldn’t find the binder when they searched Mar-a-Lago, which probably made Merrick Garland’s head explode. It seems pretty clear this binder was the real reason for the historically-unprecedented raid on a former President’s personal residence. CNN, presumably informed by its twelve anonymous informants, observed:

      The binder was not among the classified items found in last year’s search of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort.
      That must have been very disappointing.

      This, and the fact that now the Trump team is demanding that the information be released as part of discovery. Here’s where we are also shown to be prescient, as we laughed about the fact that the clumsy State efforts to silence Trump with lawfare would snap back to bite these people on their collective butts because they were giving Trump both the stage to expose them and the weapon (legal discovery required by the system) to do it.

      As the article says, the mere fact that this binder exists means it is very very dangerous to cobble together fake data to submit in discovery, because of the possibility that the real data will then be revealed, catching them in yet another crime.

      While their lawfare efforts also seem to be a following sea pushing Trump back into the White House.

  3. Amazona's avatar Amazona December 18, 2023 / 10:59 am

    I’ve pretty much written off Colorado as a victory for the Left. A book came out a few years ago about how the Left analyzed the various states and picked Colorado as its first test of a theory on how flip a state to blue, and they have been amazingly effective. And the Colorado GOP has been pathetic.

    So I was surprised to get a newsletter containing this, an actual shot fired back at the Left in Colorado and its grip on elections. (Colorado now has two of the most ridiculous, ineffective Liberal meat puppet Senators in Congress, which is strange coming from a state with such a strong conservative population.)

    Worth a read.

  4. Amazona's avatar Amazona December 18, 2023 / 11:47 am

    Kurt Schlichter has some observations about a new movie called “Civil War” (“Leftists’ Civil War Fantasies Are Not Going To Work Out The Way They Think”) as well as the oft-repeated claim we as a nation are headed for a civil war.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 19, 2023 / 10:49 am

      In Florida I see a lot of different “black” people, and there is a huge difference among Caribbean blacks, African blacks and American-born victim class blacks. Just as whites are different depending on location and heritage, so are blacks. And the ghetto black mentality in this country, which seems to be growing and spreading into middle class American-born blacks, is toxic and increasingly dangerous.

  5. Amazona's avatar Amazona December 19, 2023 / 10:43 am

    Back to my nagging about reading:

    People comprehend content they read via printed material better than what they read through digital media, according to a recent review of several studies.

    The analysis, published in Review of Educational Research magazine, looked at multiple studies between 2000 and 2022 involving 469,564 individuals, analyzing the relationship between leisure digital reading habits and reading comprehension. It concluded that “leisure digital reading does not seem to pay off in terms of reading comprehension, at least, as much as traditional print reading does.”
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    In a Dec. 14 statement, they explained that the positive relationship between reading printed texts and text comprehension was much higher than what they observed for reading digital media.

    “This means, for example, that if a student spends 10 hours reading books on paper, their comprehension will probably be 6 to 8 times greater than if they read on digital devices for the same amount of time,” said Ms. Vargas and Mr. Salmerón.

    Moreover, the authors found that the majority of digital reading analyzed as part of the research, whether it involved social media or informational reading, showed “minimal associations” with text comprehension.
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    “One might have expected that reading for informational purposes (i.e., visiting Wikipedia or other educational websites; reading news, or reading e-books) would be much more positively related to comprehension, but this is not the case,” the researchers wrote in the study.
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    The authors concluded that reading should be encouraged in primary and secondary schools, especially in the printed format. In total, the review analyzed 25 studies. The research was done in collaboration with the Spanish Ministry of Science and Innovation.
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    Digital reading can create overconfidence in the sense that people who read on screens tend to do so casually, rushing through blocks of text without fully understanding them.

    I admit to reading on electronic devices, mostly my iPad, but that is for a couple of reasons. One is that I got tired of hauling books around. When I moved, I brought with me about 60 boxes of books (not counting the 50 boxes of my late husband’s military library) most of which I ended up donating to a used book store that uses the proceeds to pay for catching, spaying and neutering and vaccinating and then releasing feral cats. I would show up every few weeks with a trunk full of books, because I had to space out my donations or overrun the store. When you read four books a week, give or take, they end up taking up a lot of space. I’m still looking for a place to donate the military library.

    And one reason is eyesight—-I can read more easily on backlit screens than on paper these days. It’s recreational reading, so I don’t really know if this has affected my comprehension, but I agree with the comment on skipping blocks of text in some digital articles. Though for me a lot of that is due to information overload and boredom.

    The lack of reading has led to an explosion of bad writing, as people don’t know what words are supposed to look like in different contexts. So we get “boarder” instead of “border”, “horde” instead of “hoard”, “wretching” instead of “retching” and so on—and, of course, the Rogue Apostrophe. In today’s blog there is another Rogue Apostrophe that actually, if read correctly, makes a sentence refer to something owned by “the Biden”.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 19, 2023 / 11:26 am

      As you know from our private conversations, I read a lot of novels, currently on a Kindle, but previously on a Nook. The Nook had the advantage of also being a computer tablet, while the Kindle is just a reader, but both are easy to read in pretty much any lighting situation, from outside in bright sunlight to inside in a dark room. When I was younger I read a LOT of print books, some hardbound, but mostly paperback because of the cost. When my eyesight started to deteriorate in my mid-40s I found reading printed text becoming more and more tedious. When I went from bifocals to trifocals in my late 50s I pretty much quit reading books altogether. Then my wife bought me the Nook around 10 years ago, and since then I’ve probably read close to 500 novels.

      The study about comprehension is a bit surprising to me for two reasons: When I used to read printed text and ran across a word whose meaning was unknown or unclear, I usually skipped over it unless it was critical to the story line, in which case I went to the dictionary and looked it up. With the Kindle (and the Nook) I just hold my finger on the word, and the dictionary pops up. Second, is remembering characters who appear early in a story, and then don’t appear again for 100 or 200 pages. With a digital reader I can hold my finger on the character’s name, and a pop-up will tell me on what page the character previous appeared, so I can go back and refresh my memory on the character’s roll.

      Like you, I do find myself skipping through online articles, particularly highly technical articles, which, given the Left’s all-out assault on science, I find myself reading more and more. A trick I learned a long time ago is to just read the first sentence of each paragraph, and you’ll get at least 75% of what the article is about.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 19, 2023 / 11:31 am

      The lack of reading has led to an explosion of bad writing, as people don’t know what words are supposed to look like in different contexts.

      I heard the other day that Shakespeare had a vocabulary of 54,000 words while the average American today has a vocabulary of around 3,000 words. That explains a lot.

      • dunny78's avatar dunny78 December 19, 2023 / 8:01 pm

        lol. You are off by a factor of ten.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 19, 2023 / 9:01 pm

        Yeah, my B.S. meter must have shorted out. My bad.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 20, 2023 / 12:53 pm

        I did a little research, which is what I should have done in the first place instead of taking a comedian’s line as something approximating the truth. Most accounts put Shakespeare’s vocabulary at 60-65,000 words and the average American’s at around 30,000.

  6. Amazona's avatar Amazona December 20, 2023 / 10:03 am

    In a 3 to 4 opinion, the Colorado Supreme Court has decided that former President Donald Trump will not be allowed to appear on the state’s ballot for the 2024 presidential election.

    Colorado is in a free fall, a death spiral. Its anti-business legislature has now imposed a property tax on business property, including computers and desk chairs. I know of one business already looking for a building in Cheyenne.

    Now the state is trying to rig the 2024 election, and not even trying to be subtle about it. When Liz Cheney failed in her effort to keep the people from voting for their preferred candidate, six Colorado voters stepped in with the backing of the state’s supreme court.

    Now that the clown posse that is running the state has done another face plant, the Supreme Court will have to weigh in.

    And this is interesting: The petition, brought by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) on behalf of the six voters, aimed to compel Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold to remove Trump’s name from the presidential ballot. Trump and his lawyers argued that Griswold’s role was merely ministerial and that she lacked the authority to determine a candidate’s qualifications.

    However, CREW’s lawyers contended that Griswold, as the state secretary, has a more significant role when it comes to elections and is responsible for providing voters with qualified candidates.

    Screw the primaries! To hell with the voters! It’s now up to a single partisan state official to “provide us with qualified candidates”.

    They’re not even trying to hide it any more.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster December 20, 2023 / 11:00 am

      7 UNELECTED Democrat activist judges decided this on a 4-3 split, and I am so glad they did. Democrats are becoming more extreme by the day with their maniacal obsession of Trump and in the process, they are turning off the majority of Americans. Democrats simply pander to every freak and foreigner in this country and everyone is tired of it. Bring it Home.

    • dunny78's avatar dunny78 December 20, 2023 / 2:42 pm

      How would you prevent candidates who are not qualified to be president from appearing on the ballot?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 20, 2023 / 2:50 pm

        As far as I can tell, aside from a few requirements stated in the Constitution, such as at age, citizenship, natural born citizen for the presidency and I think residency it is mostly up to the voters to decide what they find acceptable. The 14th Amendment says no one guilty of treason or insurrection can be president, but this clearly has to depend on actions actually legally defined as such and proper adjudication of formal charges.

        What we are seeing here is the Leftist love of simply defining or redefining terms to advance its agenda, so there is a redefinition of “insurrection” as well as of “incitement”. And, of course, the need for due process is simply abandoned–like freedom of speech, it just gets in the way.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 20, 2023 / 3:57 pm

        The 14th Amendment says no one guilty of treason or insurrection can be president,

        I don’t think that’s what it says. Here’s the full text of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment:

        No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of the President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military under the United States, or under any state, who having previously taken an oath, or as a member of Congress, as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

        The closest thing in that that could apply to Trump would be “as an officer of the United States,” but I take that to mean someone like an FBI agent, IRS agent, BATF agent, etc.. The Founders specifically mention Senator and Representative. I think if they had meant it to include the President or Vice President, they would have been specific about that too. I’m going to be shocked if the Supreme Court doesn’t reverse this. I’d be less shocked if it’s a 9-0 decision to reverse.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 20, 2023 / 4:04 pm

        It’s less of a stretch to say that Biden should be disqualified because, in openly allowing 8+ million illegals into the country he’s “given aid or comfort to the enemy.”

      • dunny78's avatar dunny78 December 20, 2023 / 5:51 pm

        My question was what mechanism Colorado should use to prevent unqualified candidates from appearing on its ballot. I thought it was clear from your previous comment that you didn’t think that was the secretary of state’s job. So how would it work in your view?

        The Colorado supreme court and the lower court both found that there was an insurrection and that Trump engaged in it. Someone quoted the 14th amendment which says that engaging in insurrection disqualifies a person from holding office.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 21, 2023 / 9:18 am

        The Left loves to simply invent definitions for terms when it suits them, and you are citing yet another example. Just as the lawyer Cheney simply ignored case law and the legal definition of “insurrection” to mount HER effort to rig the next election, then Colorado followed suit.

        I’ve cited this several times, but Lefties just don’t like it so they ignore it:

        Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence. In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

        The following is a case law defining Insurrection:

        Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.” [Younis Bros. & Co. v. Cigna Worldwide Ins. Co., 899 F. Supp. 1385, 1392-1393 (E.D. Pa. 1995)]

        On January 6 there was no organized anything, and there was certainly no effort to “overthrow the constituted government” much less to “take possession of its inherent powers.” The rally was always clearly and repeatedly stated to be an effort to get Congress to agree to a ten day delay in certifying the results given to them by the states, to allow time to begin an investigation into voter fraud. This was what Trump said. This was what the real Trump supporters said. This was the goal of the rally. This was the agenda.

        There was nothing that even vaguely resembled a true insurrection because there was no effort or intent to overthrow the constituted government, much less assume its inherent powers. None.

        The closest we have come in this country to that agenda was seen in the #RESIST movement by the Left when Donald Trump took office, when officers of the government including some members of Congress openly tried to overthrow the constituted government by thwarting the efforts of the new president to govern, by defying his orders, by countermanding his orders and by working to undermine his authority.

        Also, insurrection is a crime, and according to the Constitution anyone accused of a crime must be formally accused and allowed to face his accusers and defend himself. Until properly adjudicated in the legal system and officially found guilty, no one is guilty of a crime. No court has the authority to simply assert that someone has committed a crime, much less simply rewrite case law to change the definition of the crime.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 20, 2023 / 6:35 pm

        I though Amazona and I answered your question pretty well. What else are you looking for? Can you just wait to see what the Supreme Court does? It shouldn’t be long.

      • dunny78's avatar dunny78 December 20, 2023 / 6:41 pm

        He didn’t answer my question. He acknowledged there are qualifications to be president such as age but also strongly suggested that it was not the secretary of state’s job to keep such a person off the ballot, i.e.

        Screw the primaries! To hell with the voters! It’s now up to a single partisan state official to “provide us with qualified candidates”.

        They’re not even trying to hide it any more.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 21, 2023 / 9:21 am

        No, “he” did not merely suggest that it is not the secretary of state’s job to keep any person off a ballot”. SHE came right out and said so. Nowhere in our entire structure of government is a single person given the authority to override the ability of the people to choose their leaders, and nowhere in our entire structure of government is anyone, an individual or a court, given the authority to simply declare a person guilty of a crime.

        This kind of assumption of power is what we see from the Left, not from our codified system of government as seen in our Constitution.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona December 21, 2023 / 10:01 am

        Judge Michael Luttig, who repeatedly refers to radical Leftist attorney Lawrence Tribe as his very good friend, claims the decision by the Colorado Supreme Court is “unassailable”—as it is assailed from both sides. They claim that “congressional action is not required nor is a criminal conviction for insurrection” to take legal action against someone for alleged insurrection. They just blithely assert that due process is not always called for, when they decide it isn’t.

        Well, isn’t that convenient? I also notice that he never addresses the legal definition of “insurrection” or case law defining it.

        Yeah, I can see why he impresses Leftists with his legal acumen. He sounds like Rachel Maddow in a robe. But he identifies as a Republican.

  7. Cluster's avatar Cluster December 20, 2023 / 12:33 pm

    This is how it is done

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook December 20, 2023 / 12:50 pm

      Sadly, J.D.’s logic and common sense went right over the pointy little head of the reporter.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster December 20, 2023 / 2:42 pm

        These are not reporters or journalists anymore. They are agenda driven activists. And I will add as a “boomer”, the younger generation has been weaponized by teacher unions.

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