I wrote not too long ago about the need to punish – that is, if we want to have civil society then we are going to have to start punishing the miscreants who are increasingly making civil life intolerable. And this wasn’t a call to jail criminals – it was a call to punish. To physically harm these people. And often for what we have been conditioned to call relatively trivial offenses these days. It is necessary to do this – and we will as a society eventually do it – because human beings, because we’re Fallen or just perverse, take your pick based on theological/philosophical beliefs, can only be made civilized. You can’t politely ask a barbarian to behave – you have to whip him into compliance. As we learned over a thousand years, after a while force is reduced to habit and hides its claws. That is once you’ve punished enough people become polite and transmit this moral code to their children on the regular and so barbarism largely vanishes. Unless you do something stupid like think that people are naturally nice and so you can put away the whip forever.
This is also necessary in the realm of international affairs. States are made up of people and so have all the inherent weaknesses people have. But a bit worse in that there is no cop you can call on a nation that has decided to become outlaw. Only other nations can bring it to heel, often at high cost and a lot of bother; war being a fearsome thing, most nations prefer to avoid it as long as possible and often for far too long, allowing the outlaw nations to gain quite a lot before their avarice awakens their enemies to the peril. And that is just for the more conventional nation trying to grab land and resources. At other times, especially in the modern world, the outlaw nation isn’t merely trying for a bit of larceny (though that is always at the bottom of any aggressor’s actions), but are also imposing inhuman cruelty as a part of national policy. The Nazis are, of course, the prime example of this: not only wanting to conquer the world, but also enslaving or murdering everyone they deemed non-Aryan.
The Nazis to a large degree did get what was coming to them. Not enough, in my view: the Germans (as well as the Japanese and Italians) got off far too lightly for putting the world through the Second World War. But it was still sufficient punishment to ensure that no German, Japanese or Italian would decide that a program of conquest and massacre is the way to go. We’re now approaching 80 years since the end of the war and such sentiments in all three nations are only held by tiny numbers of kooks who have no chance of national power. But what was done to the Axis powers during and after WWII also shows the necessity of doing it.
Think about World War One; we are taught that the harsh peace of Versailles caused German resentment and so led to World War Two. Drivel! The reparations were, relatively, no different from what Germany had imposed on France after the Franco-Prussian war. The territories sliced off from Germany were territories the Germans had taken in unjust wars of conquest in the past. And then you really have to think about Belgium and France: they literally did absolutely nothing to bring on the war. They were minding their own business, not offering any threat to anyone in 1914 when the Germans demanded their abject surrender with the threat of invasion if not complied with. It took both of those countries massive blood drain to expel the Germans. Huge amounts of their territory was ruined by war. And, remember: they were completely innocent! And all the French demanded post-war was the return of stolen land and cash compensation for all the death and destruction. That was reasonable. The Germans were unreasonable to so much as resent it. A Germany which had been far more severely punished for WWI would never have started WWII…just as the severely punished Germany of 1945 has not and will not start WWIII.
And you know why I’m bringing this up – the Iranian attack on Israel. While it was ongoing the leaders of the West – from Pudding Brain on down – were calling on Israel to show restraint. Not calling on Iran to show restraint: Israel. And more than likely Israel will show restraint, just as they have in Gaza. Just as they have with their Arab/Muslim enemies since 1948. And that’s the problem: the restraint. As we see in American streets that allowing barbarism just gets you more barbarism, so it is in international affairs. When a savage attacks and you let him live, that just means he’ll attack again…and probably more nasty each time as he figures out new ways to be a son of a bitch.
How should Israel punish? Ideally with their nuclear arsenal. I know: we’re not supposed to say things like that. How could you! The Ultimate Weapon can never be used! Whatever; its just a big bomb. And if Israel really wants to make a point, they’d target Iran’s primary nuclear facilities with nuclear weapons. It would get the Mullahs attention. It would let them know they are outclassed and facing an enemy unafraid to push the button. It is, in fact, the only way for Israel to really punish Iran as Israel is too far away and has too small a population to go toe to toe in a ground war. Sure it would cause outrage – but only among the people who really just want Israel to die already so they can get on with living off Arab oil money in peace and quiet.
In the larger context, if we want to end this international anarchy where States use lunatic proxies to wage war against us – and infiltrate our societies with Islamists committed to our destruction – then we’re going to have to start punishing the nations causing the trouble. To nutshell it: there are no innocent Palestinians. No innocent Iranians. Point blank: if a nation uses its own or irregular forces to attack us – any of us, anywhere at any time – then that nation and its people are outlaws. And outlaws must feel pain. Lots and lots of pain. So much pain that no matter how much they hate us, they’ll never dare look crossways at us again. Our mistake post-9/11 was our assumption (and I did share it at the time) that there was a separate part of the Muslim population causing the trouble and if we could just isolate that part and destroy it, all would be well. Doesn’t work that way. Just as the SS doesn’t work without Fritz delivering the mail, so Islamists don’t work without Abdul milking the goat. All Germans were collectively responsible for Auschwitz. All Muslims were collectively responsible for 9/11. And the only way a German in WWII got out of his responsibility was by actively working for the downfall of the German regime – so, too, the Muslim on the street: he’s guilty unless he actively joins the fight against the Islamists. Want me to make it clear: all Muslims were responsible for 10/7 and Israel has a right to punish all Muslims any way they see fit until such time as all Muslims stop 10/7 from ever happening again.
If we don’t start to see it this way, then we’ll never get out of this mess – and that is bad for Muslims as well as for us. Had we spent WWII just trying to hit SS infrastructure, we would have lost. The SS would have remained in control – and along with killing and oppressing non-Germans, the SS would to this day be killing and oppressing Germans. The Islamic world must learn a harsh lesson; in this case, that they can’t harbor Islamist supremacist thoughts and remain safe. That just allowing it to be means eventually a bomb is coming for you and your family. The only way to safety for Islam must be surrender of all dreams of Islamist conquest – just as the only way to safety for Germans in 1945 was to give up the Nazi dream.
What, then, is punishment? Aside from direct military action there must be surrenders of territories. Removals of populations. Trials of criminals. Occupation by victorious enemies. In other words, what happened to Germany in 1945 must happen to Islam.
We are in no way physically or mentally ready for any such thing; but we’re going to have to get ready. Because they won’t quit. Israel will respond in some military fashion to Iran – and maybe even hit some pretty important targets. But the Iranians are expecting that. It won’t alter the game as far as they are concerned; just a bump on the road to their ultimate victory is how they’ll view the matter. In fact, that Israel won’t use nuclear weapons will likely be seen in Tehran as proof of Israeli cowardice and will actually encourage them to try more attacks. Until we steel ourselves to some very harsh actions, this just goes on and on.
“Punish the Barbarians”
Punish the barbarians? Can you explain how to do that when barbarians are in the the positions to exact that punishment.
I am sure you understand that anyone in the way of the barbarians will be punished themselves. If you do not believe me you can ask Daniel Penny about this subject.
I think Mark means AFTER we get control of everything, Tim. Of course, the barbarians have a say in that as well. If you are a Christian, you know how the story ends; we just don’t know when.
We’re no way ready to do this right now – but if we want this to end, eventually we’ll have to do it. The world staggers from one bloody mess to another because those who can stop it refuse to. Its too icky.
Winston Churchill: [I]f you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
I never subscribed to the notion that there was a peaceful segment of Muslims. The Koran instructs them to “kill infidels” so whether or not they are actively doing it now, you can rest assure, all of them will eventually want to to do it. And I’m not sure what that “slap and tickle” attack from Iran was. They reportedly sent over 300 drones of which 99% were shot down, and then that was it??? That was Iran’s “attack”. Doesn’t make sense. Mark is right, you can never appease a cockroach, you simply need to bring out a large can of raid when they get unruly.
What we are seeing play out in America is the extension of Barack Obama’s (another Muslim) promise to “fundamentally transform” the U.S. Obama successfully installed extreme leftists in all the federal bureaucracies who proceeded to reorganize those institutions and weaponized them against Americans. The IRS, the DHS, the FBI, the CIA, the EPA, the Military, etc. are all working for foreign interests, not Americas. The second phase was to usher in millions of low skilled, highly unintelligent, and even violent foreigners to further degrade life in America. This is so obvious, I’m shocked more people don’t see it.
Have all of you heard about the new movie “Civil War”?? Evidently this depicts what would happen under another Trump Presidency. I don’t know about you, but I am so fucking tired of having to put up with children and their extreme ignorance, narcissism, and hyper sensitivities … because that’s exactly who every single Democrat has become. They are worthless human beings.
I’ve heard mostly bad about the Civil War movie – basically, as we suspected, the bad guys are you and me…not the Deep State, not the billionaire Leftist moneybags, not the Democrats…us…the patriots; the people who make America work. So, I won’t bother with it.
I had no illusions about Islam – as a thing, it is aggressive. But I still figured that most Muslims would rather not do the Islamist thing – just as I used to think that most Germans weren’t responsible for the Nazis. But in the end, the people get what they want. America is a mess – sure, there has been lots of foreign influence peddled to help make the mess, but the responsibility lies with us, the citizens of the United States. We either made or let this happen. Even if we didn’t like it, we clearly didn’t do enough to stop it, because it happened. So, just as I am – forgive me – at least partially responsible as a citizen for Joe Biden, so is the average Muslim responsible for Hamas. Not to the point where we’d arrest and jail all Muslims…but to the point where we assign all blame for what happens to him; to them, to the entire Muslim world. They have allowed the Islamists to flourish. Year after year Mein Kampf is a best seller in Islam. This is on them – Islam needs to be punished until it learns its lesson.
I completely agree that it’s my fault, our fault, etc. and that’s why I am so adamant and resolved that we turn this around, even if it requires some sacrifice.
Winston Churchill warned us about this 125 years ago: How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
Belloc in The Great Heresies, as well; when he wrote that book in 1936, Islam was at its weakest – only a few independent Muslim nation and materially absolutely outclassed by the West. Yet Belloc wrote that it was certain that Islam would once again challenge us. Not least because the Christian West was ceasing to be Christian.
That is without question the best description of Islam I have ever read.
Great Article!
That last sentence of Gabbard’s is the truth … all of us know it too
Conservatives Should Stop Embracing Liberals Just Because They Say Something We Like
So Gabbard doesn’t like the Dem PARTY—my question is whether or not she has also abandoned her Leftist political philosophy
I would suspect not, at least not all of it. Sometimes it does take some time! Meanwhile, her criticism helps us peel away a few Dems.
So Blackrock is upset the Red States, aka normal people, are withdrawing funds from his fascist company … I hope this trend continues. Here’s a snippet of of Blackrock does
The company used to focus solely on risk management and fixed-income securities management but has since attempted to force companies across America to adopt a social credit system akin to Communist China focused on Environment and Social Justice (ESG) or face penalties. This includes forcing companies to go along with the radical left’s DEI agenda and pressuring firms not to fund coal and other fossil fuel projects.
Bud Light’s partnership last year is a textbook example of how this scheme works.
We need to keep this up, demean, divest, and delete. That’s how Leftists need to be treated.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/far-left-radical-blackrock-ceo-larry-fink-flips/
It appears the the D.C. Police Department punishes the barbarians by providing them with guns. Too funny!
At a congressional hearing Rep. Crenshaw asked; “If I take my daughter to the doctor and ask for them to remove one of her eyes because she wants to be like her father and identifies as a person with one eye, which by the way is far less important than a person’s reproductive organs, should the doctor remove it?”
Of course it’s an absurd question, but proves a point because the left insist on the far more absurd notion that gender is subject to a feeling at the moment. When evil is so willing to expose itself, you can bet what it has in store for the future is far worse.
20-year-old Quebec man suffering from ‘body integrity dysphoria’ has two healthy fingers amputated
Drawing parallels to the mutilation of gender-confused individuals carried out in the name of transgender ideology, a Quebec man has recently undergone surgery to have two healthy fingers amputated as a way to relieve distress caused by “body integrity dysphoria.”
According to a March 27 Clinical Case report by Dr. Nadia Nadeau of the department of psychiatry at Université Laval, a surgeon has removed a 20-year-old Quebec man’s two healthy fingers because he believed they did not belong to him.
The example mentioned in the previous post was to show just how absurd the left is. Apparently, the slippery slope is now a race to the bottom. Who knows how bad it will get? This Dr. should be jailed with permanent loss of license.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/20-year-old-quebec-man-suffering-from-body-integrity-dysphoria-has-two-healthy-fingers-amputated/?utm_source=daily-usa-2024-04-17&utm_medium=email