Open Thread

It is said – by known liars – that one of the people deported to the El Salvadoran prison was a Venezuelan man who had nothing to do with the gangs. He’s just this homosexual hair dresser never harmed a fly and was in the USA legally attempting to obtain asylum status because he’s gay and participated in an anti-Maduro protest. We’re supposed to feel angry that Trump deported this guy and demand that he be returned to the USA. To which I answer: no.

Suppose the liars in this instance aren’t lying – that he really is just a gay hairdresser with no gang affiliations and opposition to his government: so? He’s still a foreigner. He still has no right to be in the USA. And if he was fleeing for his life from Venezuelan government oppression of homosexuals and anti-Maduro activists, then Columbia is right next door. So, too, Brazil, Guyana and Trinidad. He didn’t need to come thousands of miles to save himself from anti-gay violence.

Asylum is for true emergencies – we have to get you out of your home country or you will be killed…because of your skin color or religion or orientation of what have you. Not because you’ll be poor. Not because it is a bit oppressive down there: because if you don’t flee, you die. This all stems from the St Louis in 1939 – a passenger liner from Germany filled with Jewish refugees which was refused entry in port after port, including American ports. The Jews eventually had to return to German control where a very large number of them ended up dead in the Holocaust. This is what we, as decent human beings, never want to happen again. That is what asylum is for. It isn’t because your homeland is poor and your government is corrupt and tyrannical. And asylum is to be obtained in the next country over – remember, it is lives that are at stake. Once you get to a place where they won’t kill you, then you’re safe…and, sure, from there you can go to the closest US consulate and apply for an immigrant visa to the USA but that’s it. You’re now regular process – you won’t die if you wait in line.

America isn’t the dumping ground for the world’s problems. Poverty is not a justification for refugee status. Neither is political oppression. Stay home and build your own economy. Conduct a revolution to overthrow your oppressive government. People do bear responsibility, even under tyranny. Part of what angers me about foreign aid is the endless nature of it…”the poor people of Africa/Asia/South America need our help to build up their lives”…this is something that made sense in 1960…its 2025. Sixty five years have passed. Singapore went from filthy-poor backwater of the dying British Empire to one of the richest countries in the world in less than half that time. With hardly any land and no natural resources. They just got to work – and now they’re reaping the rewards of their hard work. Why isn’t Ghana or Myanmar? Singapore has a per capita GDP of 89 grand – Ghana is less than 200 bucks a month. Sure, oppressive and corrupt governments…so, why haven’t their own people killed the corrupt tyrants and tried something else? Enough of this. Fix your own country. Only come knocking here if you’ll die otherwise (if the man in question has been a gay Iranian I’d never send him back, eg – he’d be killed if I did).

Trump has fired a shot across the bow of the weak kneed – essentially telling the world in this post that he won’t back down and it is those who keep fighting who will reap the glory. There will be no retreat and no surrender. Anyone looking for Trump to moderate his stance or give his opposition anything will be disappointed. It is full speed ahead.

And how it is going? Well, we’ve got some MSM polls (ROFL – but bear with me) saying that Trump’s support is declining…plus report after report claiming that Trumpsters are regretting their votes…”we didn’t vote for this” goes the claim…well, whatever. The reality: GOP voter registration gains continue. They didn’t stop after the election…Pennsylvania is now less than 100,000 active voters from flipping Red. The Democrats had like an 800,000 voter advantage there 10 years ago. New Jersey voter registration is trending Red (fast). Even California has shown more GOP registrations and Democrat – by a lot (we’re so far behind there, though, that it won’t matter for years). That is what is happening – people saw Biden and registered to vote GOP to get Trump back in…now that they’re seeing Trump, they’re registering GOP to keep Trump policies going. The political realignment to the Right spoken of since Reagan’s 1980 win is happening for real.

Oh, and Democrats – with the expected Electoral College adjustments following the 2030 census, a GOP Presidential candidate will be able to get past 270 even if losing WI/MI/PA. So, if we get Vance or DeSantis in for 2028…you’re super screwed for a long time. Enjoy!

14 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook March 31, 2025 / 12:48 pm

    Suppose the liars in this instance aren’t lying – that he really is just a gay hairdresser with no gang affiliations and opposition to his government: so? He’s still a foreigner. He still has no right to be in the USA.

    The same would hold true if the whole plane load were gay hairdressers.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan March 31, 2025 / 12:55 pm

      We’ve really become lazy about this – even those of us on the Right. Though, as per usual, we’re waking up faster than others. No government in the world secures the rights we do in our Constitution. No nation in the world is or ever has been as free as the USA. The world has always been in poverty. Oppression and poverty simply never are reasons for refugee status. They’re a reason to move – sure. Its how most Americans ancestors got here. But nobody ever had a right to come here – it was a privilege initially of sufficient wealth to get here and then, once the USA was founded, a privilege of how many we wanted to let in. I’m sure Zimbabwe does suck – and I suggest the Zimbabweans work that out for themselves.

      I’d really like us to make this rule: to be our ally and/or receive aid from us the country in question must insert the First and Second Amendments into their Constitutions verbatim. Why should be send aid to countries that aren’t free like we are? Why should we be allies with countries that don’t secure their own citizens rights?

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook March 31, 2025 / 6:29 pm

        When you consider how long our Second Amendment has been under assault by the Left, and the recent all-out assault on the First Amendment, it’s a miracle that both have survived. The right to keep and bear arms is, arguably, stronger than it was when I was young. I believe I’ll live to see the day when all states have reciprocity of the right to carry a firearm. That would have been thought impossible 20 or 30 years ago. And, as is often the case, the thought of losing something makes people fight harder for it. In the case of the first Amendment, I think it’s one of the main reasons Trump was elected.

        I do see a bit of a catch 22, albeit a good catch 22, in your rule. Not as many people might want to leave their country if they adopt your rule.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan March 31, 2025 / 7:24 pm

        I’m really trying to reach for some mechanism to fix the world – I don’t want American overlordship (we’re really not any good at it) but as long as the Third World remains a basket base it will remain a source of trouble. And, ultimately, the really bad thing of China controlling the majority of global resources. The real reason we couldn’t lose either World War was because of our command of global resources. It made it fundamentally impossible for our enemies to compete with us long term even outside the fact that we overall outnumbered our opponents. If you’re outnumbered and out-resourced, it is just a matter of time – as long as the other side’s morale doesn’t collapse, they will beat you. You think about the Germans with their Me-262 and Panther tanks and it was all quite useless…they couldn’t build enough of them fast enough to make a difference.

        So, the First and Second is just a useful thing on that – any nation which has these two amendments will very shortly cease to be a basket case. Oh, it might have a civil war – perhaps even a very violent one (like we had) but if you win with 1A and 2A, you keep 1A and 2A…and that right there (your ability to speak and your ability to kill) keeps everything on an even keel. Its why the American Left has been so determined to annul both Amendments…without them all other rights secured are quite meaningless. If I can get the Third World to stop being corrupt oligarchs stealing and just give them a chance to be free and work, then they’ll cease being a problem…and cease being a plaything for someone like China. Imagine a genuinely free and prosperous South Africa…they’d have a first class army and navy and they wouldn’t want China butting into Southern Africa…on and on like that.

  2. Cluster's avatar Cluster April 1, 2025 / 9:10 am

    So Marie Le Pen is under house arrest? Is Macron following Biden’s lead?

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan April 1, 2025 / 4:32 pm

      She’s guilty of multiple counts of probably winning the next election.

      That it didn’t spark revolutionary violence shows that France is probably lost for good.

  3. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 1, 2025 / 9:38 am

    Mark, your second paragraph (on asylum) is excellent. The Left, knowing this, invented the term “Economic Asylum”—which, of course, would be defined as the absolute right to go to a different country based on its economy profile, and to be able to bypass its normal immigration process to do so.

  4. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 1, 2025 / 11:34 am

    Spook, you and Cluster have often commented that you have seen the prospect of a “revolution” or some kind of violent national uprising, and I always discounted this. But the Musk-centered violence, paid for by the Left and escalating in size and scope, are making me think you might have been right.

    When they and their lapdog media openly cheer and encourage attacks on citizens it really does look like an effort to foment armed conflict. They are not only encouraging physical attacks on Musk himself but on anyone who “supports” him even if only by driving a car made by a company he founded.

    The Kyle Rittenhouse incident shows us the dangers of lethal self defense but I am thinking that it will take this kind of reaction to what it going on to force a government response that is more than a “strongly worded letter”.

    Semi-serious idea: Now that pre-emptive pardons are a thing the Left embraces maybe Trump could issue pre-emptive pardons to anyone seriously wounding or killing a “Musk protester”. More serious: Define anyone engaging in violence associated in any way with this national movement as a domestic terrorist, with the changes in how terrorists are surveilled, arrested, charged and tried. That is, firebomb a Tesla dealership and wait for your trial in Gitmo.

    I also wonder, given the information that these “protests” are not grass-roots or spontaneous at all but are coordinated by a group of about 24 different NGOs, etc. if it’s not time for RICO investigations and indictments.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 1, 2025 / 12:21 pm

      I’m glad you differentiated between “seeing the prospect for a revolution or some kind of violent national uprising” and advocating for same. As I’m sure Cluster would agree, predicting that the Left will engage in violence when they don’t get their way is kind of like predicting the sun will come up in the east. The fact that many on the Left have gone from worshiping Musk as the savior of the planet to literally want to kill him and destroy one of his flagship companies in a matter of a couple of years says just about everything you need to know about Progressives.

      Contrary to what some might conclude from some of my comments over the years, I’m not a violent person. The last person I struck was a bully in the 5th grade, and he and I actually became friends after I gave him a bloody nose. That said, until violent extremists on the Left actually suffer some kind of consequence for their actions, be it personal injury or sitting in a jail cell, they’re going to just keep doing what they’re doing, especially if someone else is paying them to do it. Armed Conservative have shown remarkable restraint so far.

  5. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 1, 2025 / 4:29 pm

    The “prospect for a revolution or some kind of violent national uprising” always seemed to imply the need to take up arms against a foe, and my question “So who are you going to shoot?” pointed out that the “foe’ was not going to be an organized entity identifiable by a uniform.

    But I see a difference between that and a clearly identified foe (that is, one who is hitting you are threatening you or destroying your property) and I think we are nearing a time when lethal responses to these kinds of actions will be legalized.

    I also think we need a clearer definition of the word “protest”. Right now it is being applied, incorrectly in my mind, to organized mobs motivated by hatred of one man, not a legitimate protest against a policy, and calling for damage and destruction and even physical attacks directed at people who do not represent any policy.

  6. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 1, 2025 / 4:56 pm

    I’ve written in the past about the cause v effect of irrational rage and Leftism. I do believe that the Left recruits people with personality disorders and then validates those disorders by claiming they are perfectly normal and natural reactions to some designated trigger. And I supposed that people with borderline personality disorders can become more deeply invested in them if surrounded by others equally disturbed and constant message that this is proof of moral and intellectual superiority.

    The first time I became aware of the sheer evil of some of these people was during the Terri Schiavo argument. One one side was a family which deeply loved their damaged family member and which also believed that she had enough cognitive ability to suffer and to appreciate kindness. They wanted to take her home and care for her and do whatever they could to improve her condition if this was even remotely possible. On their side they had testimony from her caregivers that she recognized them, and could communicate with them on a very very basic level. For example, she could register dislike of some flavors and appreciation of others. On the other side was her ex husband, who had legal custody of her and wanted to end her life.

    So we saw lines being drawn between the two camps. On one side were people who believed that profoundly brain-damaged people could be, to some degree, aware and sentient and responsive, some who had no opinion on this but who thought the family should have been allowed to nurse her and nurture her because there was nothing to lose by doing so, and then the other side of the line which was ENRAGED by the idea of keeping her alive, DEMANDING that she be KILLED.

    I remember some of these people posting on the old blog, and being astounded at the utter ferocity and furious blind hatred of this poor woman. We saw repeated citings of bogus “medical” reports, that her brain was mere “jelly” and that there was basically nothing left. To the questions of “why do you care?” and “what’s the downside of letting her family take care of her?” the only responses were louder and more vehement and more strident demands that she DIE. These people were deeply invested in the death of a frail and damaged young woman they had never met and whose life and death would never intersect with theirs in any way. And they were furious at the idea that she might be allowed to continue living.

    We’ve seen similar depravity in the arena of abortion arguments, celebrations of multiple abortions and sheer blind FURY at the idea of offering information such as ultrasounds and connections to pregnancy help instead of just pushing to killing the babies These people don’t just say “Sure, if women want to look into alternatives that’s fine”—no, we see rage and over-the-top hostility directed at anything that might open up new approaches to unwanted pregnancies other than killing the babies.

    There are countless examples of rage and fury and sheer blind hatred on the Left, from the Left, that defy reason. Now we are seeing it directed at a single man, for the unforgivable sin of having and supporting a political position that includes support of Donald Trump.

    And—and this is the most important aspect of this—-this is all being organized and promoted by the Left, encouraged and incited and celebrated. But this IS the Left. It is not, and never was, the “party of kindness” that Elon Musk used to support. It has always been a political model of brutality and oppression and tyranny and determination to eliminate anyone who does not toe the line or bend the knee.

  7. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 2, 2025 / 9:40 am

    Well, it looks like the government has found one way to deal with the domestic terrorism movement that is targeting Elon Musk and, by extension, Tesla owners.

    “There Will Be No Negotiating”: Tesla Firebombing Suspect Hit With Federal Charges, Faces 20 Years In Prison

    Discussing others who have been either identified or actually arrested for similar crimes, AG Bondi stated: ““All of these cases are a serious threat to public safety. Therefore, there will be no negotiating. We are seeking 20 years in prison

    And (and this is just my personal take on this) as every violent riot also poses serious threats to public safety, this might be a warning that violent rioters may also face the same treatment.

  8. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 2, 2025 / 10:13 am

    Senator Kennedy does it again, this time addressing the new Leftist tactic of universal injunctions. And, as usual, he goes directly to the heart of the matter:

    On Monday, during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, he was at the top of his game, systematically exposing the complete lack of legal authority for district judges to issue universal injunctions — a favorite tactic of the left to block President Trump’s agenda.

    Questioning Assistant Attorney General nominee Brett Shumate, Kennedy systematically dismantled any justification for these sweeping judicial orders.

    “Mr. Shumate, what’s a universal injunction?” Kennedy asked.

    Shumate explained, “Senator, a universal injunction is an order from a court enjoining the government in a way that goes beyond the parties to the case but applies nationwide or in some cases universally.”

    Kennedy pressed further, asking, “What’s the statutory basis for a federal judge issuing an order that affects people other than the parties before the court?”

    “I’m not aware of a statutory basis, Senator,” Shumate admitted.

    “There is no statutory basis, is there?” Kennedy reiterated.

    “No, Senator,” Shumate confirmed.

    Kennedy pointed out that instead of filing class-action suits, plaintiffs often seek universal injunctions, which have no legal foundation. 

    “Does this encourage forum shopping?” he asked.

    “Yes, Senator. Not only does it encourage forum shopping, but also district shopping and filing multiple strategic lawsuits to find one judge who will enjoin a single policy nationwide,” Shumate said. “If you have five lawsuits, only one of those cases needs to be successful.”

    Kennedy then turned to historical precedent. 

    “Universal injunction is basically an equitable remedy. Did this exist in common law courts in England?” he asked.

    “I don’t believe so, Senator,” Shumate responded, citing Supreme Court precedent that equitable relief was traditionally limited to the parties in a case.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan April 2, 2025 / 11:29 am

      It is clearly ridiculous for a district judge to set legal policy for an entire nation.

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