It is still all about the lies – Kirk was killed by a man who submerged himself in Leftwing lies to the point where he perceived Kirk as a personal enemy who must be eliminated if the killer was to survive. Now, to be sure, this is a weak-minded person – but as I’ve noted again and again, if you spread hate filled lies in a population of 340 million, even if just one tenth of one percent fully believe the lies, that means 340,000 people primed to kill.
That’s a lot.
And, of course, it is probably closer to twenty five percent of our population fully infected with the lies that killed Kirk. So, 85 million or so people. This is shown by an ABC reporter who looked at the killer’s text messages to his partner and found them “touching”. Everyone is torching that reporter but keep in mind: to that reporter – as to tens of millions of others – the killer is the hero. I guarantee there are people right now writing scripts portraying the killer as the hero. You can almost see the Law and Order episode…a “Right Wing Fanatic” gets killed and after our dogged (Liberal) law enforcement officers investigate, they find it was the “Fanatic” who caused it to happen.
It is unshakable Liberal dogma that Kirk was an absolutely horrible person. They’ll literally quote you things Kirk never said (or that are so twisted out of context they work out to bald faced lies) as proof that he was lousy…with the subtext being that he got what was coming. These fools are incapable of turning that about – of thinking of a time when their opponents decide to dish it right back to them. They can’t imagine that because they are stunningly ignorant – they just assume they’ll never be called upon to pay the price they demand we pay. They don’t know how the world works – do not know how people behave when they feel their lives are at stake. They expect to get Kirk killed, get in our faces, yell at us…throw things at us…and we’ll never do anything. They’re wrong. There is a limit – and we’re just about there. The next phase is people on the Right shooting back.
That happens if Team Trump is not able to get a handle on the people responsible for the lies and make them pay for it. And that brings me to this: Bondi is getting a lot of flack for condemning hate speech. There is no such thing as hate speech – we all know that. And, so, her comment about it ignited an immediate fire storm on the Right. But you do need to pay close attention to what she said:
Hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence is NOT protected by the First Amendment. It’s a crime. For far too long, we’ve watched the radical left normalize threats, call for assassinations, and cheer on political violence. That era is over.
Under 18 U.S.C. § 875(c), it is a federal crime to transmit “any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another.” Likewise, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and 18 U.S.C. § 115 make it a felony to threaten public officials, members of Congress, or their families.
You cannot call for someone’s murder. You cannot swat a Member of Congress. You cannot dox a conservative family and think it will be brushed off as “free speech.” These acts are punishable crimes, and every single threat will be met with the full force of the law.
Free speech protects ideas, debate, even dissent but it does NOT and will NEVER protect violence.
She is not saying that hate speech is a crime – but she is saying that hate speech will be a crime if it goes beyond a certain point. This is as close as she feels she can get to my position – that is, lies aren’t 1A protected. Honestly, I don’t know if that’s where she’s heading but if I were AG, this is where I’d start on my path to hauling the Left into court for their lies, as such. Can’t do that – just too much opposition would develop against it, including from the Right. Heck, we’ve seen just the use of “hate speech” set off a ruckus. But it is the way to go about it – it is kicking the Left in the shins. Their terminology is being turned against them…and she’s not promising to drop the hammer on “I hate Trump”…but she will drop it on “I think Trump should be taken out”. And so on through all the rest of the incitements the Left puts out and then pretends weren’t incitements when someone like Kirk gets killed.
Our test case is now the people who surrounded Kirk’s killer – the friends who talked him into believing the way he did. If any of them in any way encouraged violence, we might be able to indict them…and indict them in Utah – a Trump +31 State. We don’t know how this will shake out as its still very early, but the text messages released indicate that the killer had been brooding of this for some time and felt he had the opportunity to kill Kirk and get away with it. We’ll see what Bondi and Patel turn up in the investigation. We’ll see, that is, if we can make the Left pay for Kirk’s murder – because that is the only way to do this. If the killer is executed for the crime and it goes no further, then justice has not been done…it would almost work out to a miscarriage of justice. It would be hanging the concentration camp guard while letting the camp commandant off. The killer was wound up like a clock and set off on a schedule…and the greater guilt resides in those who lied this event into existence.
And our safety can only be secured if we punish the liars. You can see it: they feel no remorse and are not at all toning it down. They are already getting fired up and ready to brazenly lie some more. Why shouldn’t they? They got an effective opponent killed – they certainly hope to kill more and ever higher up the line. And they sit supremely confident that nothing will happen to them. “I didn’t kill anyone!”…no, but you said over and over again that Kirk wanted all trans people killed…that he was a Nazi…a fascist…an existential threat. But if you lie and lie and lie and those lies motivate a killer, then you are morally responsible for the death…now we’re going to find out if we can make such people criminally liable.
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There is a limit – and we’re just about there.
I was there 5 years ago. If we don’t confront and intimidate them, they will continue. Don’t be friends with them, don’t be family with them, do not acknowledge them. They are all sub human.
I will remind everyone here at B4V that 20 years ago we were debating tax policies and welfare policies. Now we are asking them to stop assassinating us …. enough is enough
One thing that is slowly evolving from the coverage of the hateful comments about Charlie Kirk’s murder is the surprise of the haters at how strongly people feel about it. I think they have been living in their little bubbles, trading grievances and reinforcing each others’ pathology, unaware of how their true natures would be seen if revealed. Like that dingbat who was so stunned when Trump won the first time, saying in disbelief “But I don’t know anyone who voted for him”, these people have been living in a closed loop of infinitely recycled affirmation that their mental states are not just normal but noble, and that they are shared by decent people.
Now they are seeing what people really think of this type and level of rancid hate and they are having to face the fact that their attitudes are reviled. More than that, that they have consequences. They expected approbation, praise, applause when they started posting their photos and screeds, bragging about their mindless hate, showcasing their malignancy as human beings, and it has been quite a shock to see how decent society has reacted. It’s also been gratifying to see how strongly society has turned on them. I haven’t seen any defenses of the vile spewings, after the first feeble efforts to claim “…but he SAID..” and they have had to fall back on “freedom of speech”. The problem with that is that they are celebrating the silencing of the biggest proponent of freedom of speech.
It’s been common to dress as monsters on Halloween. This year we just need to dress as Democrats.
Even the Minnesota shooter that targeted legislators claimed in a letter found in an abondoned car near his farm house Governor Waltz had approached him about killing certain legislators, so pretty hard to paint him as a right-wing nut job, even though many on the Left have attmpted to do so.
Even the breathless, overheated melodramatic posturing of the Deputy US Attorney talking about the Minnesota case, trying to blow it up into a massive national terrorist operation, admitted that they had no clear idea of what motivated the shooter. From the earliest coverage I got the impression that there was something of a personal nature involved in the choice of targets, but that kind of information was quickly edited.
Melissa Hortman was NEVER demonized constantly in the media. Never once did Trump or any MAGA even mention her name. No one even knew who she was
that’s a big difference.
that’s a big difference.
But it’s a difference that many, if not most on the Left can’t even comprehend. Their brains just can’t process it.
But the Left is using it as if it were a MAGA attack…same thing with the Pennsylvania governor’s mansion…and that’s being done by supposedly moderate and intelligent Shapiro…a raving Leftist anti-Semite loon tries to kill him and he’s out there saying it was MAGA. Just sick and twisted.
Basically, Shapiro is proving that he is a whore. He knows why he was attacked, but he has sold his soul to the Left—or to the power he thinks the Left will give him—-so he prattles the official narrative. He did his calculations and realized that coming out against the pro-Hamas guy would cost him votes from the pro-Hamas wing of the party, whereas throwing MAGA under the bus is guaranteed to appease the hysterics and might even buy him a little grace for being a Jooo.
This is an excellent video clip of Charlie Kirk. It shows his kindness and patience, and humor. He is being harangued by a shrill, strident screecher, and he handles her with kindness. He merely points out at one time that she is “at 10” suggests dialing down to “8” and she immediately apologizes and promises to do so. That is such a mild mannered yet effective way to deal with screamers. He recognizes that she is quite frantic and tries to convey information in a way that is not hostile or confrontational–though he does kind of make fun of the whole “carbon dioxide” thing.
I haven’t taken the time to do a deep dive into Kirk videos–still dealing with the emotional toll of the past week or so. His death was shocking enough, but the eruption of such vile, vicious, insanity from so many “Americans” has been deeply disturbing. In a conversation with a friend last night she brought up the same thing—that there is a pall over the nation, and it is related more to the stripping away of disguises of profound ugliness and viciousness of people than the loss of someone so admired and valued. Now we have to look at everyone we work with or encounter, whom we do not know well, wondering if this is a person who would celebrate an assassination, advocate for the violent silencing of political opposition, and even wish that someone had been tortured before being murdered in front of his family. Who could have imagined an America in which, if you were in an accident, you would have to make sure you weren’t wearing anything associated with support for the president before being taken to the emergency room, to feel confident that you would be treated properly?
As I said when he was killed, I didn’t really know much of him – my Mrs was an avid listener as was my step-son, things I did not know until afterwards. And, of course, I found out that lots of people around me IRL were fans. I have now seen some videos and, if anything, he was overly patient with the screaming lunatics. He made his points clearly but without rancor and without condemning the other side as people. I can now see why he was so effective in getting especially young people to listen and change…and that’s ultimately why he’s dead.
This might have been an act of moral courage, it might have been just an effort at virtue signaling once the ABC guys saw which way the wind is blowing, or it might have just been an excuse to finally dump this boat anchor of a loser and his loser show. (I’m going with Door # 2, “which way the wind is blowing”. It’s way too late to try to sell #1, and #3 is not an “OR” but an “AND”.)
100%. We cannot hate Democrats enough at this point. They have learned nothing and are actually trying to compare Kirk with Kimmel.
There’s a line in Tombstone when Wyatt had finally had enough and says, “I see a red sash, and I kill the man wearing it”
That’s where I am at.
THIS is kinda where I’m at (not aimed at you, Cluster):
Very appropos in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination:
He’s a bright man. If you pander to criminals and freaks, you become criminals and freaks.
And what is really bad about it is we don’t have much to be guilty about. Even our worst national sin – keeping slaves – was paid for in our own blood. The mistakes we’ve made were incidental to our national identity while our glory was our own effort.
Look at all the atrocities in history that could be used to foment undying rage and hate but have not. Look at the way American prisoners of war were treated by the Japanese (which, today, few even know about) but as Americans we accept this as an artifact of a dead culture and refuse to drag it into today. There are too many examples like this of people having the character and integrity to recognize that what was acceptable then is not acceptable now, and moving on, for me to have the slightest empathy for those whose pathology makes them cling to old grievances.