December 7th doesn’t mean much to the younger generation. Remember: we’re nearly a quarter century after 9/11. If you’re under 30, even that date doesn’t mean much. Back to 1941? Eighty four years ago? It is almost out of living memory. Only a few very old people were even alive when it happened – even fewer have any memory of it. Everything eventually gets ravaged by the artillery of time. But it is still one of the pivotal days of modern times.
People still wax misty about 1914 and Sarajevo and, indeed, there is good reason for that – a whole generation of young people singing their way to massacre in the trenches. But for all the destruction of that war, it was the US entry into World Two which was The Event of the 20th century. The First World War was a quick in and out and though Americans largely supported the effort, they weren’t at all keen at staying involved. Good to keep in mind that it wasn’t the Lusitania sinking or the resumption of German unrestricted submarine warfare which got us enthusiastic about the war, it was the Zimmerman Telegram.
That diplomatic note, intercepted by the British and published by them with exquisite timing set America aflame. We didn’t particularly care about who won that war. We figured that if you sailed on the high seas into a war zone, you took your chances – but the prospect of a German-allied Mexico conquering parts of the American southwest enraged us. And so off to war we went. And when it was Over Over There, we came back home, voted in Harding by an astonishing landslide and pretty much acted like the whole thing never happened.
As late as December 6th, 1941 the solid majority of Americans were opposed to entering the war. Keep in mind that the Holocaust was still not generally known about – and wouldn’t really get rolling until 1942. We didn’t like the Nazis but we felt that it was still Europe’s war. Just like Japan’s war in China was Asia’s war. We were sympathetic to China and Britain, and to those laboring under the conqueror’s boot, but we couldn’t see how it mattered to us.
And with good reason – in a very cold and clear light, it didn’t matter to us. Moated as we were by two oceans, with harmless neighbors north and south, with the second largest fleet in the world after Britain (and easily turned into the largest, as we soon saw), with vast territory and wealth untold to be tapped…why go fight in Europe over the difference between the sides? FDR had been doing everything he could to build up a war fever in the USA – and, additionally, the spreading prosperity due to war contracts was whetting appetites – but it just wasn’t working. We remained stubbornly aloof. We could not be conquered. Not by the whole world in arm against us.
But then came the attack. Of course it outraged us. Of course the recruiting offices were jam packed the next day. Of course we swore we’d beat those Japanese SOBs. But while we did that, we also somehow started to unravel the European colonial Empires while lavishing aid on a Soviet Union hostile to every last American ideal. I mean, seriously: we deliberately set about weakening our allies while strengthening our obvious enemy. Sure, in the process wiping out Germany and Japan but, in the end, those two nations never stood a chance. What stood a chance was a global Left standing over the ruins of European Empires and slowly but surely infecting the United States. And here we are. Eighty four years later. Debating over what “woman” means.
This is why I consider Pearl Harbor to be the disaster – the turning point. The one event I’d really like to go back in time and change. It wasn’t that the war was the problem, it was that it allowed the Left to use American power to win the war, claim it as a Leftist victory and then set about over the past eight decades thoroughly degrading everything that the men and women of 1941 fought for.
We didn’t need an NSA. Didn’t need a CIA. Didn’t need a massive standing military. Didn’t need to allow foreigners to dump their second rate garbage in our markets. Didn’t need foreigners to come here and work. What we need was what we had – a nation of sturdy patriots led by people who knew what the heck to do. We needed, in short, a nation that produced Douglas MacArthur and George Patton…not a nation which wonders if a 5 foot tall woman should be in an infantry company.
This is why I’m so enthusiastic about Trump. The past can never be recovered – we won’t ever go back to 1941. But we can certainly try to recapture what we can. And so Hegseth at War. Rubio at State. And Trump, himself, clearly reading and re-reading McKinley and others who built the nation which won the Second World War. We’re becoming American, again. Unafraid. Hard working. With good will towards the world but no desire be immersed in its (often) very stupid problems. Set against us is the world and that section of the American population which has ceased to be actually American – you know the type without even a description. We’re just strong enough to beat them, and the longer we beat them the more people will come over to our side…until all these weirdos on the Left are nothing but a distant memory.
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Mark,
So let’s assume that Pearl Harbor doesn’t happen. The U.S. doesn’t enter the war on the side of the Allies. England falls and with it the British Empire which is split between Germany and Japan. Does the U.S. negotiate a peace with the Axis powers or perhaps ally with them?
More than a year later and you’re back?
We can’t really go with counter-factuals…I only point out that Pearl Harbor was the Turning Point. It was mostly a Japanese mistake (for heaven’s sake, the concept that Yamamoto was some sort of superlative genius is absurd..Alexander, Caesar and Napoleon were looking down at that and going, “you’re just going to make them mad – you need to destroy their fleet and their base!”). They were rather insane to attack us as they had zero chance of imposing terms on us. Only a complete collapse of American will could get them out of an impossible situation. Our part of the mistake was not making it very clear that our will was strong – this would have meant reinforcing the Philippines in 1940 rather than too late in 1941. Also our refusal to countenance any Japanese advance into China put us at loggerheads with them when we could have possibly worked out a livable relationship with the Japanese Empire – and our right strategy was to always encourage them to fight Russia, anyways (there was a significant Strike North faction in Japan and nobody was certain until very late in 1941 that the Japanese would Strike South – Stalin was desperate to find out in order to know if he could move the Siberian divisions west and he found out with bare enough time to get them in front of Moscow in November of 1941).
As for Nazi Germany – once again, nobody knew what was fully going on, nor what was planned for 1942 and later. Also, every problem in the world isn’t an American problem. If we were morally bound to crusade against Hitler in 1941 in order to save lives then we were equally morally bound to Crusade against Stalin in 1932…and Mao in 1966. The point here is that we can’t fix every problem…it isn’t our moral responsibility to set the world to rights. Hitler’s regime was doomed from the start. The idiot had to start his war in 1939 because Germany was broke and about to undergo a severe financial crash as the bills came due for rearmament and public works. The only reason it hadn’t collapsed earlier was because of the money the Nazis managed to steal in Austria in 1937. As I’ve noted before, the conquest of Europe was due to an incredible stroke of luck…but he couldn’t hold it. Never could, never would. It was 70 million Krauts trying to hold down 250 million. Can’t be done. Not for long. The Brits were already outproducing the Germans in planes by late 1941…that strategic bombing campaign was coming one way or the other and if Britain couldn’t do anything else, they would have eventually given Arthur Harris the number of bombers he really wanted and he would have just bombed Germany until the rubble bounced (it is very important that you reject post-War Narratives which were all created to make a political point with actual facts of secondary importance…the Strategic Bombing Campaigns against Germany and Japan were massively effective, shorted the war by years and would have actually totally smashed the enemy leaving only a burnt out husk to be occupied after it was all over). What I’m saying: Germany would not have been able to finish the job…could not have been prevented from doing what it did (just took too long to get an allied army to Auschwitz), but Germany never had a ghost of a chance of winning. So, no worry about us having to negotiate in the 1960’s with the old men of the Reichstag.
Since this is a n event you wish you could go back in time to prevent, how would you do it? You are given a Time Machine, what would you do with it.
So you came back to play stupid party games? I guess that’s no worse than your odd takes on history and politics.
Define “negotiate peace”. You have no timeline, just some pseudo-historical “what ifs”. You assume that if the Japanese had not bombed Pearl Harbor they would not have engaged in any other hostile act toward the United States as well as assuming that Germany would refrain from attacking the US, thereby forcing either surrender or declaration of war against Germany and therefore the Axis. You ignore Russia. And to “ally” with these powers implies joining them in their quest for world dominance.
It’s a nonsensical effort to appear engaged in historical debate.
At least he hasn’t changed a bit! Still no thinking. Just rolling along…my bet is he’s back because the Left has generated a raft of polls allegedly showing Doom for Trump and MAGA. This will just make 2026 as funny as 2024.
He does love his polls, doesn’t he? I don’t think his record of excitedly citing every poll showing Kamala Harris as trouncing Trump, getting huge crowds at her rallies, etc. is going to be forgotten. I believe the last time we heard from him was a promise that he would be back the next day to rub our noses in our defeat.
Knowing how poll-driven Casper is and how dependent on the lapdog Agenda Media, he does have some value in telegraphing the Left’s game plans, though. He indicates that there is a movement to attack Trump for diplomacy with nations unfriendly to us.
I, though, am interested in the Long Game of the Left in preemptively trying to destroy JD Vance. The attacks on Trump are flaccid and boring, just the Same Old Same Old. “Oh, LOOK, he walked slowly down a slippery ramp!” “Oh, LOOK, he used both hands on a water glass!” “Oh, LOOK! His leg went to sleep in the golf cart!” “Oh, LOOK, he looks bored in a long boring meeting where everyone is going over what he had already been briefed on!” But the focus on Vance is illustrative of the upcoming election strategy.
In typical Leftist slime mode, they are going after his wife, his marriage, and even his friendship with Erika Kirk—-and the savagery with which the AWFLs are going after her is beyond disgusting.
As you say, Mark: “note that they are now calling Vance “worse than Trump”; just battle space prep for 2028.”
One might think, if one did not already know “casper” and the pathetic level of his knowledge, he would realize that long before December 7, 1941, the United States was already an ally of Great Britain. So he is saying, if a specific something never happened would that mean that the United States would turn on its historic, political and cultural ally and align itself with nations representing tyranny, mass murder and world domination…because ?????? to destroy that ally? And Japan would just meekly stand on the sidelines and never join in attacking America?
None of this makes the slightest sense, even as a theoretical “what if?”—although whoever wrote about this in some Lefty rag sure impressed casper.
I appreciate Trumps peace making approach with foreign adversaries but have much more appreciation for his full frontal assault on our domestic adversaries … who are much more dangerous. We have nothing to fear from Russia, NK, Venezuela, or even China, but the enemy within is subversive and dangerous. Many Presidents have warned us about the enemy within and Reagan warned us that communism would come into the country disguised as healthcare reform, and we all had all better heed their advice. The real enemy that needs to be confronted and destroyed … is the current Democrat Party
What we are talking about here, and what Casper is trying to introduce as a Leftist talking point, is the concept that an agreement between two countries to avoid conflict is “making peace” or appeasing, submitting, joining, etc.
It’s just part of the latest panicky effort by the Left to generate a straw man they can then use as the basis for “discourse” and attacking Trump.
I think it’s rather humorous the Left’s latest attack on Trump apparently nodding off during Cabinet meetings. Trump is the Energizer Bunny compared to Biden. He’s accomplished more in the first year of this administration than any president in my lifetime. It’s not surprising that he gets tired; it just proves that he’s human. The whole attack doesn’t seem to be getting much traction.
Nothing they are doing is getting traction because they do not offer any good alternative on any policy. They just whine and complain about everything. Notice how fast they dropped the Epstein issue, and are now trying to tell Americans that narco terrorists should be treated better. You can’t hate them enough
He is, after all, old – but he’s in possession of his marbles unlike certain people we could name. Heck, I’m 61 and I’ll drift off on the couch from time to time.
AAAAAND……this is how it’s done:
It is like that and it is why I keep telling everyone on Social Media not to pay any attention to the Democrats, the overall Left, the MSM or the Doomers…they’re all on a script which has no basis in reality. Everything they do is designed with one purpose in mind: stop MAGA. Do note that they are now calling Vance “worse than Trump”; just battle space prep for 2028.
As we approach the celebration of Christ’s birth, this seems like an excellent response to those on the Left who constantly claim Jesus was a socialist.
And history moves on.
We are finding out that COVID was nothing more than a HUGE money laundering scheme for Leftists. MN is just the tip of the iceberg.
I have to admit, I didn’t recognize the money laundering bit, seeing it as just plain corruption, but I made several posts about the likelihood of a circular current of money movement—Biden issues edicts that Americans have to inject an experimental drug, Biden continues the designation of Emergency Use Authority for the drug so it will not be subject to liability for damages, Biden funnels billions of dollars to the companies he is simultaneously pumping up and protecting, and we were supposed to believe this flow of funding was one-way and none of it came back to him? But I didn’t catch the rest of the scheme.
I did, however, see the underlying themes of testing Americans to see how subservient we would be, how easily terrified we could be, how controllable we would be if properly scared into submission, and how quickly tyranny could be established. And it was downright depressing to see how quickly the once-tough American public folded into whimpering messes pleading for Uncle Sam to “save them”.
Agree 100% and don’t forget the immunity vaccine providers were afforded. In fact the only people who did receive immunity were the vaccine manufacturers lol.
It was all a financial scam perpetrated on the American tax payer who were forced to wear masks and stay inside. Un F****king believable. Let’s not stop until all members of the current Democrat Party are DEAD. Kill the cancer
Cluster, do you guys in Phoenix pay much attention to Tucson? It really does look like Arizona is in competition with Colorado in a race to the bottom.
Not much …. Tucson (the old Pueblo) is like the step child to Phoenix, and we all know how insanely leftist they are. However, on the UA campus in Tucson, I have been reading about how robust their new Turning Point chapter has become. I do believe the younger generation will be our salvation, if old men like me stay resolved. They are embracing Faith and Family and …. Common sense.
That is good news, and hopeful.
Many years ago I read something to the effect that there is a cycle to juvenile rebellion—that is, that kids often rebel against their parents, which actually puts them in alignment with their grandparents, because the grandparents are what the parents rebelled against.
I was out of high school at the end of the 60s so I observed the phenomenon of massive rebellion by young people at a slight distance—young enough to find it kind of stimulating but too old to buy into the nonsense. I saw a huge difference in just a span of a couple of years, in how kids responded to the cultural messaging they were getting, and what I saw as amusing and a temporary distraction was taken seriously by cousins and friends just a couple of years younger than I. “Rebellion” on one side of that divide tended to be long hair and weird clothes and a change in musical taste (from Beach Boys and Jan and Dean to Janis Joplin) and on the other it was darker and deeper, fed by careful Leftist messaging.
The victims in that latter category took it more seriously and went on to support Leftist takeovers of schools and government, but still based on the original impetus of “rebellion” against an Invented Other much more than analysis of political philosophy and adoption of serious political positions. “They”, now in their 70s, carried on this Identity Politics into their parenting years, producing children who simply accepted the trivialization of serious politics shown by focusing on media-created images of “The Other Side” instead of serious analysis of political models, their structure and history of success or failure.
But I am seeing the pendulum start to swing back. It may have skipped a generation (thanks to the energetic efforts of the Complicit Agenda Media) but I think there is a new generation starting to question the value of nihilism, the spiritual and intellectual vacuum of substituting Leftist allegiance for religion and family and love of country, and the blatant failures of efforts to implement Leftist policies. They are realizing that not only does the emperor have no clothes, he isn’t really an emperor at all but just an illusion created by a malignant machine.
So we are seeing younger people looking for the structure their parents and even grandparents have denied them, because the rigidity of Leftist dogma is not the same as the ordered structures of functional society and government. They are looking around them and thinking “If this is supposed to be so great, why isn’t it working?”
It’s great that they are seeking sense and structure in religion, even seeking out the most structured of religions like Catholicism. It’s great that they are eager to feel part of the essence of their country by being involved in its defense, being energized by the new discipline and order the military is once again starting to represent.
I just hope this extends to recognition of the corrosive effect of Leftist politics and a determination to return the country to its Constitutional roots. That’s really hard when you have a place like Tucson, so firmly under the thumb of a corrupt political machine and family, but there might be hope even for places like this.
I consider Europe to be a hostile power – even the Poles and Hungarians will, I expect, not help us in a crisis. I do believe that EU and European government agencies are orchestrating ops against us designed to weaken our will and hamstring American action. Always keep in mind that these people don’t just hate us, they hate Europe, too. But they know they can’t totally destroy Europe unless they also destroy us. Trump won’t do it but I’d prefer our withdrawal from NATO.
Jeff Childers shares this information and his take on it: