From Reuters:
China’s Foreign Ministry warned U.S. officials on Thursday not to meet with visiting exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama, saying it hoped Washington “appropriately dealt” with Tibet-related issues…
We should be warning the Chinese that if they don’t mind their manners we’ll start up a trade embargo…and we’ll see how “strong” the Chinese economy is when they can’t dump their low-quality, slave-labor produced garbage in our stores.
I, for one, have had quite enough of the corrupt, beastly government in Beijing and it is high time we started acting like we know the difference between right and wrong. My sympathies are with the long-suffering Chinese people and I can’t think of any better way to help them than to do everything we can to undermine the Chinese government…and the best way to do that is cease allowing that government to make money off the United States of America. They’ll have a nice economic crash and maybe that will wake the Chinese people up to the need for a revolution – but even if it doesn’t then at least we won’t have anything to do with China’s government any longer.
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Barry has already dropped trou and grabbed ankles for the ChiComs when he refused to meet with the Dalai Lama last year. No wonder they see him as just another rent boy.
First Clinton got elected with the help of China, and now Barry is letting them know they can call the shots with him. Evidently the new model for national conquest is just to buy a country rather than invade it, and evidently the Left is standing there with its hand out and its knee pads on.
Big problem with your thought processes. The long-suffering Chinese, as you called them, are in better shape now than in their 5000 year history. Don’t believe me, read some Chinese history where one learns that the government was always made up of the literate elite (a very small percentage of the population) and the majority were peasants who were pretty much “married” to the land.
I am not making excuses for the corrupt Chinese government, but I am pointing out reality. As long as the government keeps the majority (peasants living on their own land and growing their own food) happy, then they will remain in power. The elites fear the wrath of the Chinese people because historically this wrath will bring down the government. The dynasty had a Mandate from Heaven and when they lost it (peasant uprising because their lives became intolerable) the dynasty fell.
I agree – China has no right to even hint about who can visit and who cannot. Silly but the Chinese do it for internal consumption.
The Dalai Lama continues to be an idiot. Any Buddhist that tries to tell the world that he is a Marxist has long lost his senses. The Dalai Lama allowed and even assisted the Chinese takeover of Tibet. When the Chinese told him he could no long be the head theocrat, he left, never to return. If one does a little research, one will find the Dalai Lama attending Communists conferences in Beijing during the 1950s.
The end of the communist regime in China will not come from the people unless a huge economic turn around occurs and that just might happen sooner than later.
Cecil
Except for the fact that the are heading towards terminal demographic decline, yeah, they’re doing great. And as long as you ignore all the unpayable debts, things are spiffy. And if you’ll just ignore things like ancestral Chinese lands being stolen by the elite to make megalomaniac dams or absurd golf courses, then its just one hunky-dory situation over there….best its been in 5,000 years, in fact.
There are about 700 to 800 million peasants, most who are barely literate. How many do you really think know about the terminal demographic decline (which is real), unpayable debts (these peasants do not generally acquire debts), ancestral Chinese lands (which were confiscated during the communist take over in 1949 making only the really old the only ones to worry about), a dam that forced relatively few from their homes, golf courses (which are not built in or around the rural peasant areas, and other things like the ghost cities of Zhuhai.
The point is, what you are reading about is true at the high end of the economic level but does not reach down to the level needed to really upset the peasantry. Having lived in a rural environment in China for the past three years, I can tell you that the situations you expressed have nothing whatsoever to do with the majority of Chinese. You really have no concept of what life in China is like now and certainly have done no research on what it was like before the communist takeover in 1947. Think in terms of war lords and constant civil wars as well as Japanese invasions beginning with the fall of the Qing Dynasy in 1912.
Better yet, take a trip to China, staying away from the major cities and see how well off the local peasantry is compared to Dynastic living. You are a typical American with no idea about China and Chinese culture except what you read in the newspapers. I am not defending anything, just stating what is the truth. Most of my students (I taught at the number 29th best university in China) were excellent and most laughed at the concept of communism and marxism. One of my colleagues who has visited us since we left China teaches Marxism and . . . if only I could repeat what she told us.
I can see how well the ChiComs are doing with building of “ghost cities” in order to keep people employed outside of the military while producing a false GDP among other numbers
Better yet, tell them that if they keep up with crap like this, we’ll instruct the Treasury to start sending all payments for T-Bills to the legitimate Chinese Government in Taipei.
As for China minding its own business I agree, and this behavior is nothing new. Officials have been whining and threatening every major nation who entertains the Dalai Lama and have paid special visits to Senators and Congress people here in the U.S. with these very same threats.
With almost 400 billion in annual sales of Chinese goods, the U.S. needs China as much as they need us. However, we have far more power than we seem to exert when dealing with the PRC, foreign diplomacy at its best and worst.
So many Americans have this ridiculous fear about the debt we owe to China. What they don’t understand is the money we owe China is in reality nor threat to us, because should they call in the debt they would then have to invest that money elsewhere, most likely the EU which devalue the Euro and hurt China. Additionally they can’t survive without our financial investment of retail dollars; the ties are far too close for them to ever call in their debt. They would be fools for sure.
Cecil Says:::
The Dalai Lama continues to be an idiot. Any Buddhist that tries to tell the world that he is a Marxist has long lost his senses. The Dalai Lama allowed and even assisted the Chinese takeover of Tibet. When the Chinese told him he could no long be the head theocrat, he left, never to return. If one does a little research, one will find the Dalai Lama attending Communists conferences in Beijing during the 1950s.
Cecil, not sure what history books you’re reading but i believe you have taken HHDL’s statements about Marxism out of context especially as related to the basic tenants of Buddhism. Additionally while he did attend a conference in the mid 50’s, it was in an attempt to bridge, in good faith I might add the differences between how the CCP worked and how Tibetans had been operating their own government. The Tibetans were between a rock and a hard place with no where to turn and no defense of any value to ward off the gradual takeover. HHDL fled Tibet at the urging of the Tibetan people who believed a plot to kidnap and murder him was in play. Additionally he felt it was the only way to keep the Tibetan government intact. No one expected 52 years of exile; but here we are.
“Marx was not against religion or religious philosophy per se but against religious institutions that were allied, during Marx’s time, with the European ruling class. He also provided an interesting anecdote about his experience with Mao. He said that Mao had felt that the Dalai Lama’s mind was very logical, implying that Buddhist education and training help sharpens the mind. He said he met with Mao several times, and that once, during a meeting in Beijing, the Chinese leader called him in and announced: “Your mind is scientific!” — an assessment that was followed by the famous line, “religion is poison.”
Dalai Lama (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/Religion/post/2011/06/dalai-lama-china-marx-communism/1)
Now tell me how I could have taken this out of context. This is pure unadulterated garbage. Religion, any kind of religion, was an opiate not just those allied with some ruling class. Do a Google search on Marxist and the Dalai Lama. He had repeated this often, yet people who are hugging themselves seem to miss this. Reread carefully what he stated and then rationalize that with the Karl Marx that we have come to disrespect and despise. An interesting anecdote with his experience with Mao, means that he met with Mao enough to have said anecdote and not just once as you seem to think.
If you read more about him, you will find that he was all for the communist revolution in China. When he was going to get liquidated because of his spiritual hold on the people (which still exists today), he left.
I see documentaries by BBC and other news organizations that called the Tibet of the Dalai Lama as the most enlightened place on the planet. Of course, enlightened in terms of slavery and pure feudalistic oppression and corruption beyond the pale of human understanding. There was nothing enlightened about 1940s and 1950s Tibet.
I have many Tibetan friends and students from my teaching time in a large university in Sichuan Province. I found them to be kind and very spiritually minded. China is screwing up Tibet, not by destroying their culture but by coddling to them. Tibetans get free everything including food and housing. Tibetans who are in college are given free passes in their academics. The Chinese are destroying them by social welfare and destructive coddling. Tibetans as a whole are a thousand times better off now than they were under the Dalai Lama. Theocracy and feudal slave – now that is enlightenment.
But as one of my students and dear friend stated when I asked him about the Dalai Lama – He IS the Dalai Lama. That pretty well covers the problem in Tibet.