Recall Day in Wisconsin (Bumped)

Forgot about that, huh?  Well our corrupt union bosses and assorted lefties didn’t – and today is the day when the long-suffering people of Wisconsin will decide if the left gets crushed or is given a mild reprieve.  If the GOP retains its Wisconsin Senate majority by even one seat, then that is a gigantic loss to the left, which has poured body and soul in to this effort.  If the GOP loses the majority, then it will be a minor set back for us and will be a tonic for the left.

It won’t, however, alter the dynamic.  This is the offest of off-year elections and, as I said, the left has been pouring it on.  Turnout will be key, and it is a complete mystery as to who will actually show up to vote.  There is some polling out there and from what I’ve read, most of it shows the GOP hanging on to the majority, with at 1 or 2 seat loss.  If, after a  massive effort, the Democrats come up short, it will demonstrate conclusively that their brand is fatally damaged, much as the GOP brand was by August of 2005…but even a win for the Dems here won’t be any sort of indicator that the left is resurgent…they will have won, by extreme effort, a narrow victory in a State long friendly to their views.

UPDATE:  Over at Hot Air, Ed Morrissey notes that Democrats have downgraded their expectations….from a “six for six” sweep to a hope to win “two or three”.  The news last night that Walker’s reforms will save Milwaukee a bag of money couldn’t have come at a worse time for liberals…essentially, the liberals of Wisconsin are fighting against that and in favor of the sort of policies which resulted in our debt downgrade.

UPDATE II:  As of 8:57 pm Pacific, the GOP has held three, the Democrats have taken two…the last race to be called will decide the Senate majority…or perhaps not; if the Democrats win tonight, they still have two up for recall next week and the GOP would have to win only one of them to regain the Senate majority if they lose it by one tonight.

At best, the left will have spent $20 million to win three State legislative seats; and a win which will in no way alter the dynamic of 2012.  Good job, lefties!

UPDATE III:  Hot Air reports that of the total votes cast tonight, the GOP has won by 52% to 48%…these same districts were carried by Obama 53% to 46%.

UPDATE IV:  Twitter reports indicate the GOP has won four of the six and thus retains Senate majority.  Not confirmed … but as Donks are already screaming voter fraud, we can call it “almost confirmed”.

UPDATE V:  From what I can tell, though the AP refuses to report it, the GOP has, indeed, won four of the six…and it would be just double extra cool if we beat the two Democrats next week.

55 thoughts on “Recall Day in Wisconsin (Bumped)

  1. Cluster August 9, 2011 / 8:11 am

    I watched action hero Ed Schultz from Madison last night, and not only is the left “all in” on this, but they are also, completely dishonest about the issue. Ed frames it as an all out assault on unions when in fact, Walker only wants a little more contribution on their pension and benefits, which would still be less than their private sector counter parts, and, he only wants to take away collective bargaining rights on benefits only. The union will still have collective bargaining rights on wages, which is more than federal employees have. So action hero Ed’s premise is a lie, and he was actively foaming up the base of wing nuts with these lies and distortions.

    Secondly, action hero Ed makes no distinction between private and public unions, of which there is a HUGE difference. And even FDR warned us of public union collective bargaining.

    And finally, it occurred to me that nearly 80% of the audience in the background, which included democratic representatives, all live off of the tax payer, and yet are demanding that they be better compensated than their private sector counterparts. When did America start letting the employees dictate the employment contract terms?

    • Mark Noonan August 9, 2011 / 9:32 am

      I was channel surfing last night and caught about 45 seconds of that show…about all the nauseating dishonesty I could take. But, yeah, they are clearly all-in, and certain of victory. We’ll see how it comes out.

      • Sunny August 9, 2011 / 11:05 am

        I didn’t see you write anything about the fake Democratic candidates that were running in the WI election. All lost. Why didn’t you let us know how you feel about such behavior Mark? I am sure you would find that despicable behavior for a party to try and pull such a stunt. Right?

    • Sunny August 9, 2011 / 11:01 am

      What about the action heros, the Koch Brothers, who mailed out fake ballots in Democratic area and advising voters to return the ballots on August 11. Pretty funny, huh? Of course it was just a typo – we all know the #1 is so close to the #9 on the keyboard. If a Democratic action group would have pulled such a stunt there would have been total outrage from conservatives. But since it was targeted at Democratic voters, well, no big deal. And this is not the first time such a stunt has been pulled by conservative action groups. They have a bag of dirty tricks and yet it is always the Democratic action groups that are commiting voter fraud according to the GOP.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 11:07 am


        total BS

      • Green Mountain Boy August 9, 2011 / 11:09 am

        Yupp get ready to drive to wisconsin right now. Got my bag of ballots in the trunk. Just waitin on the Koch brothers to make a transfer into my bank account and zooooooommmm! I am there. 😛

      • Sunny August 9, 2011 / 12:10 pm

        neo you are an idiot – as usual. No, this is not BS – this is fact. You obviously have a big problem with truth – i.e. – calling yourself a former marine who went to Viet Nam. No one here believes that for one second. However, you keep spewing it. But the truth is that the Koch Brothers did in fact do exactly what I wrote above. If you have a problem with the truth, go talk to your minister, pastor, priest or rabbi – whatever so called religious belief you claim to be. Truth from you would be refreshing instead of your constant childish, immature name calling and basically behaving as an ass all day long.

      • Mark Noonan August 9, 2011 / 12:37 pm


        We can bear truth, but HuffPo is not the place you’ll find it…

      • tiredoflibbs August 9, 2011 / 12:49 pm

        Dreggs, those aren’t BALLOTS, they are APPLICATIONS for ballots.

        Plus the instructions on doing so are clear (from Politico’s (wow a real unbiased site):

        Step 1: Fill out the attached application today (be sure to sign the application).

        Step 2: Mail your application: (left off address for speed).

        Step 3: When you receive your absentee ballot from the city clerk, fill it out IMMEDIATELY.

        Step 4: Mail in your completed absentee ballot which must be received by your city clerk the Thursday of the week BEFORE the general election (your clerk will provide more instrustions).

        August 11th is the Thursday BEFORE the recall election taking place on August 16th for districts 12 and 22!!!

        Wow, libs are desperate to invent some controversy before the election. the complaint and source of the “proof” ballot is a Democratic activist. There is no proof when and where he/she found them and we only have his/her word for it.

        Go figure. These drones are so easily duped.

  2. neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 8:38 am

    sadly they will have every wino, drug head, every innercity drege “vote”, as well as ballot stuffing they will win.
    thats what commies do lie cheat murder and steal.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 9, 2011 / 8:58 am

      “thats what commies do lie cheat murder and steal.” But Neo, they are doing it for the children. That makes it ok. “Oh wont somebody please think of the children”!!!!

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 10:40 am


        da po chillin

  3. Cluster August 9, 2011 / 12:02 pm


    I would oppose any effort at voter manipulation, either from the right or left. So I hope that you can provide us with some concrete evidence about your allegation on the Koch Bros. I look forward to seeing that

    • Sunny August 9, 2011 / 12:11 pm

      I am glad we agree on something cluster. I do hope these people are prosecuted for voter fraud. This kind of nonsense needs to end.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 12:28 pm


        al frankenstein
        JF kennedy

        mmmm mmmm mmmmm

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 12:32 pm


        said the * fliers* in the general mail……..

        NOT BALLOTS…..*F-L-Y-E-R-S* to dumb donks what Fn idiots.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 12:39 pm

        ayeeeeeee (dean screen)
        Brrrrrttttt (bwany fwart)


      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 12:58 pm

        Sunny and Casper,

        The links you provided only contain accusations. I would like to see an actual copy of the mailer, why wasn’t that provided?

        Incidentally Sunny, the following was from your link:

        Walker’s legislation — which eliminated collective bargaining and other rights for public employees

        Which is an outright lie. Does it bother you that the HuffPo lies?

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 1:21 pm


        Why did Bernie Madoff go to prison?

        To make it simple, he talked people into investing with him. Trouble was, he didn’t invest their money. As time rolled on he simply took the money from the new investors to pay off the old investors. Finally there were too many old investors and not enough money from new investors coming in to keep the payments going.

        Next thing you know Madoff is one of the most hated men in America and he is off to jail.

        Some of you know this. But not enough of you. Madoff did to his investors what the government has been doing to us for over 70 years with Social Security. There is no meaningful difference between the two schemes, except that one was operated by a private individual who is now in jail, and the other is operated by politicians who enjoy perks, privileges and status in spite of their actions.

        Do you need a side-by-side comparison here? Well here’s a nifty little chart.


        Takes money from investors with the promise that the money will be invested and made available to them later.
        Takes money from wage earners with the promise that the money will be invested in a “Trust Fund” (Lock Box) and made available later.

        Instead of investing the money Madoff spends it on nice homes in the Hamptons and yachts.
        Instead of depositing money in a Trust Fund the politicians transfer it to the General Revenue Fund and use it for general spending and vote buying.

        When the time comes to pay the investors back Madoff simply uses some of the new funds from newer investors to pay back the older investors.
        When benefits for older investors become due the politicians pay them with money taken from younger and newer wage earners to pay the older geezers.

        When Madoff’s scheme is discovered all hell breaks loose. New investors won’t give him any more cash.
        When Social Security runs out of money the politicians try to force the taxpayers to send them some more; or they cancel S/S to all those who paid into it.

        Bernie Madoff is in jail.
        Politicians remain in Washington .. with fat medical and retirement benefits.

        “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert , in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.

        ~ Milton Friedman

      • Bodie August 9, 2011 / 2:21 pm

        “I would like to see an actual copy of the mailer, why wasn’t that provided? ”

        Here ya go, sport.

        So what’s your next excuse going to be?

        PS: The address given on the mailer is for a right-wing PAC, not an “Absentee Ballot Application Processing Center.” Gooooooo Koch brothers!

      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 2:32 pm


        You may want to reference tired’s post up thread. We have now seen the mailer, and it appears that you liberals have over reacted again. No surprise though, right sport?

        Step 1: Fill out the attached application today (be sure to sign the application).

        Step 2: Mail your application: (left off address for speed).

        Step 3: When you receive your absentee ballot from the city clerk, fill it out IMMEDIATELY.

        Step 4: Mail in your completed absentee ballot which must be received by your city clerk the Thursday of the week BEFORE the general election (your clerk will provide more instrustions).

      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 2:33 pm

        Oh and Bodie, this is an application, not a ballot. Proving once again that drama queen liberals are emotionally unstable and unfit to govern this country.

      • Sunny August 9, 2011 / 2:39 pm

        well, cluster, apparently everyone writing about Walker eleminating union workers right to collective barganing are lying as well. You need to get on the stick and let all of the media know they have lied, lied, lied about what Walker did and wants to do and thinks he has accomplished. We will see after the results are in from the recall elections.

      • Bodie August 9, 2011 / 2:42 pm

        So you can’t even offer excuses anymore, just dodges. Boy, you sure ground down fast. But that’s not surprising, given what you’re stuck defending and how little material you have with which to defend it. Poor little guy.

  4. Cluster August 9, 2011 / 2:35 pm


    Does it concern you that HuffPo lies about Walker’s positions? Is that what emotionally unstable liberals do when they can’t win the argument? Just lie about stuff?

    • tiredoflibbs August 10, 2011 / 11:47 am

      Bodie errr, Monty errrr, MBurns errrrr, jeffy does.

      He constantly demonstrates the liberal belief that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

  5. Sunny August 9, 2011 / 2:46 pm

    Cluster, did you bother to read Step 4: to return before August 11? What do you suppose they provided that date? And why on earth are they even sending out such an official looking document if it is not to confuse and supress votes? They did that out of the goodness of their hearts – they like spending money in Democratic areas to make sure those voters make it to the poll on time, right pal?

    • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 3:02 pm

      It’s not a ballot. It’s an application to register, and it clearly states to fill out immediately and mail in. This is just more faux outrage from the left, nothing to see here.

      But HuffPo lying about the issue is evidently ok with you. Good to know

      • Bodie August 9, 2011 / 4:36 pm

        Right-wingers lying about the date of an election and claiming that the mailing address of a right-wing PAC is actually an “Absentee Ballot Application Processing Center” is evidently OK with you. Good to know, especially for the next time you start wailing and crying about “voter fraud.”

      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 4:47 pm

        Sending out APPLICATIONS to receive mail in ballots hardly constitutes voter fraud. But thank you clearly demonstrating what I mean by the “emotionally unstable” left.

      • Bodie August 9, 2011 / 6:30 pm

        “Sending out APPLICATIONS to receive mail in ballots hardly constitutes voter fraud.”

        I didn’t say it does. Reading is fundamental, cluster.

    • tiredoflibbs August 9, 2011 / 9:54 pm

      “What do you suppose they provided that date?”

      That was an APPLICATION FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT for the August 16 recall election. August 11th is the Thursday before the election – the deadline set by law for all absentee ballots to be returned to the city clerk.

      Simple and easily explained, as I did before and as you again ignored.

      • Sunny August 10, 2011 / 4:12 pm

        What a lie!

  6. Cluster August 9, 2011 / 3:05 pm

    And great argument Bodie. A lot of words that mean nothing, but we have come to expect that from you.

    It has occurred to me though that you and Sunny must think the voters of WI are dumb as dirt if they get confused by the instructions “fill out immediately and mail in”

    Is that how you plan to “WTF”?

  7. Cluster August 9, 2011 / 3:07 pm


    Yes, any media that continues the line that “Walker is stripping the collective bargaining rights of public employees” is lying. Do I need to dumb that down for you?

  8. casper August 9, 2011 / 4:00 pm

    Since members of public employee unions no longer have the right to bargain for benefits, then yes they have been stripped of some of their collective bargaining rights.

    • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 4:27 pm

      And you call yourself a teacher. The only collective bargaining they are losing is on benefits. They still have that right to bargain for wages. Do you agree with FDR’s position on public unions?

      And since when do employees dictate the terms of the employment contract?

  9. casper August 9, 2011 / 4:53 pm

    The only collective bargaining they are losing is on benefits.”

    Those are still collective bargaining rights.

    “Do you agree with FDR’s position on public unions?”


    And since when do employees dictate the terms of the employment contract?

    When has that happened? It’s called bargaining. Nothing the benefits employees of WI have was dictated by anyone, they were bargained for.

    • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 4:57 pm

      “bargained” for at the point of a crippling strike….yeah a real “bargain”

    • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 5:18 pm

      When has that happened? It’s called bargaining. Nothing the benefits employees of WI have was dictated by anyone, they were bargained for. – Casper

      Bargained with whom? Does the tax payer have a representative at the table? Hint: It’s not the politician, and that was the premise of FDR’s position. Let’s see if you can figure that out.

      • casper August 9, 2011 / 5:31 pm

        “Bargained with whom? Does the tax payer have a representative at the table? ”

        Yes, the people the taxpayers elected. It’s called democracy.

      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 6:22 pm

        Really? Is it the representatives money that he is bargaining with? Or do you suppose that there could be a favorable little arrangement the politicians make with unions. You know the I support your demands in return for campaign contributions, all at the expense of the tax payer – do you suppose?

        Nah, that couldn’t be right? And that’s exactly why FDR opposed it. FDR would be a republican today considering how far left the democrats have gone.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 6:25 pm


        It’s called democracy.

        sorry teach dummy, it is a constitutional republic

      • Bodie August 9, 2011 / 6:29 pm

        “Yes, the people the taxpayers elected. It’s called democracy.”

        Cluster has odd ideas about democracy. Hell, he recently argued that if a Congressional vote doesn’t go his way, it doesn’t count as a Congressional vote.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 7:07 pm

        URGENT: Controversy Surrounds Wisconsin Jobs Now! Personnel Inside Polling Site

        At Milwaukee Ward 259, the Cudahy YMCA in Northwest Milwaukee, election observers vehemently argued over whether members of Wisconsin Jobs Now!, an organization embroiled in scandal and tied to Rep. Sandy Pasch via Citizen Action of Wisconsin, were allowed inside the polling site wearing Wisconsin Jobs Now! t-shirts and buttons.

        The controversy began just after 12:30 PM when a volunteer election observer challenged whether Wisconsin Jobs Now! personnel driving voters to the polling location should be allowed inside the building. Democrat election observers and Wisconsin Jobs Now! personnel argued that Wisconsin Jobs Now! is not in violation of GAB rules that forbid election observers from wearing “clothing or buttons related to candidates, parties or referenda.”

      • casper August 9, 2011 / 7:14 pm

        How is that any different than our representatives voting to give government contracts to companies for? Are you suggesting that our government shouldn’t bargain with anyone?

      • Cluster August 9, 2011 / 7:22 pm


        Let’s not play this boring game. Simply read up on FDR’s position on public unions, a position of which is completely common sense, and one of which I support.

        Is that too difficult?

      • casper August 9, 2011 / 7:32 pm

        I’ve read up on FDR’s position on public unions. I disagree with it. I believe ALL workers should have the right to bargain for wages and working conditions.

      • neocon1 August 9, 2011 / 7:53 pm


        they can,
        holding people hostages to their terrorist demands not so much.

  10. Green Mountain Boy August 10, 2011 / 6:22 am

    Sorry donkrats, oh so close but no cigar. 2 out of 6 just does not cut it. And 2 donks get to defend next week. 30 million bucks down the drain. Master Soros is not pleased.

    • neocon1 August 10, 2011 / 9:07 am


      soon the displeased mr soros will be less pleased as he joins the forkers in their nether world.
      83 yo close to be 59 degrees F

    • Green Mountain Boy August 10, 2011 / 9:15 am

      And niether is want-to-be-master Thomas. Oh so sweet. The feel of a represenative republic in action. The people have made thier choice. Elections have consequences. The libbies lost. Watch the dismantling of at least one states welfare system.
      Just to remind you. Wisconsins passed a voter id law. In the presidential elections of 2012 it will be much, much harder for the donkrats to cheat. That will not stop them though. They will try. Although it will be much harder to get an ID with the name Wilma McCheeseburger. 🙂

      • neocon1 August 10, 2011 / 2:31 pm

        note to al-hussein….We WON!

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