At least one leftist is understanding what is happening in Britain:
…This is not a political rebellion; it is a mollycoddled mob, a riotous expression of carelessness for one’s own community. And as a left-winger, I refuse to celebrate nihilistic behaviour that has a profoundly negative impact on working people’s lives…
…There is one more important part to this story: the reaction of the cops. Their inability to handle the riots effectively reveals the extent to which the British police are far better adapted to consensual policing than conflictual policing. It also demonstrates how far they have been paralysed in our era of the politics of victimhood, where virtually no police activity fails to get followed up by a complaint or a legal case. Their kid-glove approach to the rioters of course only fuels the riots, because as one observer put it, when the rioters ‘see that the police cannot control the situation, [that] leads to a sort of adrenalin-fuelled euphoria’. So this street violence was largely ignited by the excesses of the welfare state and was then intensified by the discombobulation of the police state. In this sense, it reveals something very telling, and quite depressing, about modern Britain.
The only thing left out is my contention that the British people have resigned the right of self defense. Swaddled in the welfare State, set upon by professional gripe-mongers, oppressed by political correctness and disarmed by law, the British people are just sheep for the slaughter…complete victims whenever the barbarians decide to strike. If they tried this in the United States, there would be return fire – and in most jurisdictions, the law would back the honest citizens in the use of force. Can anyone seriously imagine this sort of thing going on in, say, Texas?
This is the perfect storm of welfare and Big Government…some people so mollycoddled (excellent word, that) that they just don’t care how much they destroy; figuring it is their right to take what they want (all that class warfare talk does have an effect, ya dig?) and that the government (which owes them, right?) will fix it all up. On the other side, people who still retain a sense of decency stand aside and let the rioters destroy because they’ve been conditioned to think that law enforcement is a matter only for the police; they have forgotten that the police are delegated by the people to defend the community, but the actual defense of the community lies with the people.
The only way out of this is for some citizen of Britain to shoot a rioter, and then have a jury refuse to convict. That would save Britain…anything else will just be a band aid on a dying society.
Blogs For Victory 
coming to a US city near you
faracan warned of it I believe him.
flash mobs are but trial runs for what is coming.
Tribune report
2:40 a.m. CST, February 28, 2011
farrakhan-mideast-uprisings-will-come-to-us-
Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan predicted on Sunday that America faces imminent uprisings that mirror those in the Middle East.
“What you are looking at in Tunisia, in Egypt … Libya, in Bahrain … what you see happening there … you’d better prepare because it will be coming to your door,” Farrakhan said in a booming voice, thousands of followers cheering in his wake.
Farrakhan also called on President Barack Obama to allow protesters to march, urging the president not to attack innocent people when they do.
The controversial minster spoke to a packed house at the Allstate Arena in Rosemont as part of the 81st annual celebration of Saviours’ Day, which marks the birth of the faith’s founder, W. Fard Muhammad.
From february neocon really? This has nothing to do with the unrest in London. I don’t care how you try to conflate this old man in this you are dead wrong and your abject bigotry is nauseating.
schwartzputz
quoting faracan, and pointing out flash mobs is bigotry?
what devils brew have you been smoking at the fork fool?
Mark,
If there was a much lower unemployment rate, the riots never would have happened.
http://operationblackvote.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/young-black-and-betrayed-black-youth-unemployment-is-through-the-roof/
How could this be? I thought socialism was utopia.
Casper, what responsibilities do the black youth have?
Cluster August 9, 2011 at 6:18 pm #
How could this be? I thought socialism was utopia.
Really? Who on this blog has ever argued that?
“Casper, what responsibilities do the black youth have?”
The same as anyone else, but shouldn’t they also have the same opportunities?
The same as anyone else, but shouldn’t they also have the same opportunities?
Who says they don’t
Cluster August 9, 2011 at 7:19 pm #
The same as anyone else, but shouldn’t they also have the same opportunities?
“Who says they don’t”
If they did, there wouldn’t be double the unemployment in those areas that there is for the country at large. People don’t riot if they have decent paying jobs.
catspuke
If there was a much lower unemployment rate, the riots never would have happened.
they said that in the 60’s
70’s
80’s
90’s
2000’s
THEY HAPPENED !!!!!
SS, DD,
same OLD worn out excuse, same demographic…
NEXT?
Casper,
Sorry, but that isn’t it, at all. You are simply blind if you believe this is an action from frustrated, unemployed youths…they don’t want a job, they want free stuff…and the British people aren’t resoundingly smacking them on the head for being like that. It is the death of Britain.
Mark,
If they had jobs they could buy their stuff. Most of them don’t.
How do you know they don’t want jobs? Are there more decent jobs available than workers? If there is and there were still a lot of people unemployed you might have an argument.
catspuke
I went to school with blacks in the early 60’s
all three of my children went to equal schools with blacks K-12
my grand kids go to school with blacks
my wife worked in schools with large black student representation.
YET all 3 of my sons work, all three went on to further education, all 3 speak perfect English, all 3 are great readers, all 3 are great in math, all 3 dress accordingly, NONE of the 3 have ever been arrested………….
tell me why are they any different from those who sat in the same class room with them for 13 years?
Well neocon I guess what you are trying to say is whites are just better than blacks when it comes to those things huh? I mean, they always had the same opportunities, right? let me take one of your grandchildren subjugate her to salvery and force her next oh 25 generations to live as a second class citizen and then one day expect them all to think, dress, speak and act as I do.
Hey, the way things are going if there’s a GOP Prez in 2013 she might get to live that dream!
schwartzputz
ahhh the 200 years ago slavery excuse?
actions have consequences, their african for-bearers should have thought before rounding up to sell their ancestors for a profit.
second class citizen?
NEVER where I lived and NEVER in their lifetime.
Maybe just maybe it was the $$$$$$race hustlers and pimp$$$$ who kept the hatred stirred up for $$$profit$$$ and left wing psychos like you who were the democrat owned KKK.
Everyone needs to read Demonic by Ann Coulter. She has nailed this.
Note to lefty anarchists……
Big man with a gun . . .
schwartzputz
big mouth with a keyboard.
“The only way out of this is for some citizen of Britain to shoot a rioter, and then have a jury refuse to convict. ”
Core conservative values!
boobie
YUP
God, Country, Family.
thieves, looters, murderers, arsonists, muggers……..2nd amendment = self defense, up to and including death
dont like the results? dont do the CRIME!!
Your G-d= a controlling prick who wants bigoted men to rule the world
Your country = a nation of people frightened by their own shadows yet easily distracted by what’s in WalMart
Your family = an artificial construct that requires constant covert efforts to assure other families don’t find out you are dysfunctional too.
I tell ya – this hope and change thing is really turning out well
http://www.cnbc.com/id/44073673
the leader of the hope n change pack……
People like Casper and Thomas like to say that this is a complicated world that needs nuanced solutions. I could not disagree more. This world is very simple. The simplest way to lose all your other GOD given rights is to elect people who will take away your right to self defense.
The people of Britain did just this. I do not feel sorry one damned bit for them. You reap what you sow.
However, the situation in Britain does provide a example for those of us in the United States. There is virtually no difference between the labor party and the conservative party. Remember that in 2012. If you vote for someone who compromise with the donks…..I think most here get the picture. At least I hope so.
GMB,
I agree it is a simple world. If the people in the London neighborhoods had decent jobs, there wouldn’t have been any riots.
None of this explains why London is relatively calm tonight in comparison with the last 72 hours.
I hear lucifer is having some fun with at least one mr. kennedy and invited che over to watch.
LOLzer. They would not have rioted had they a decent job. That is a good one.
Does a descent man force people to strip thier clothes off? Does a descent man steal out of the backpack of someone else? Does a descent man burn cars or buses? does a descent man throw 20 litres of gasoline into a tavern and light it to watch it burn? Does a descent man steal… this could go for awhile.
Please define descent.
But Casper understands thier rage and is teaching his pupils they have the right to riot. To steal, burn, destroy, to thier little hearts content. Thank God again my wife has the patience to homeschool our family.
GMB,
I’m not making excuses for any of the criminals that are out there. They are the minority and they should be jailed. I’m pointing out that riots don’t happen when people have economic opportunities.
“But Casper understands thier rage and is teaching his pupils they have the right to riot.”
I’ve never taught my students that they have the “right to riot”. They don’t. However, if they understand what leads to riots perhaps they can prevent them in the future.
Again, these people come from the most advanced welfare state in the world. Free food, free housing, free clothes, free transportation. These “descent” people have never been required to do anything.
Yet they are burning thier own nieghborhoods to the ground because they cant find a decent job.
You still have not defined what a descent job is.
I stand by my original thoughts.The criminal elenent in these riots are the majority. The vast majority. Because the moment you decide that burning looting and robbery is the only way to express your rage you become a criminal.
GMB,
“You still have not defined what a descent job is.”
A decent job would be one which is safe and provides a wage that would allow someone to provide for him (her) and family.
“Again, these people come from the most advanced welfare state in the world. Free food, free housing, free clothes, free transportation. These “descent” people have never been required to do anything.”
People shouldn’t get free food, free housing, free clothes, and free transportation. They should be given the opportunity to earn them.
Casper, then I would suggest that read up on the British welfare state. The only people denying these people the oportunity to work are these people themselves.
“People shouldn’t get free food, free housing, free clothes, and free transportation. They should be given the opportunity to earn them.”
Casper please email this statement to David Cameron, Nick Clegg, and Ed Miliband. Maybe they can do something.
Green Mountain Boy August 10, 2011 at 12:17 am #
“Casper, then I would suggest that read up on the British welfare state. The only people denying these people the oportunity to work are these people themselves.”
Really? Prove it. What jobs are they turning down?
Well Casper, you could start off with craigslist UK. Then you could move to listings in the london times. Also the british have various labor offices that constantly update.
You have to want a job to get one. Show me one of these descent rioters that actually wants to sweat to earn money. Please just one.
Why work when your government will pay you to do nothing?
This was done because he did not have a descent job.
And this
And this
Destroy the very things that could provide a job. None of thes “people” would survive in a job. They never have been required to do anything other than exist.
Largest-ever social protests in Israel
Over a quarter million people took to the to the streets Saturday to protest spiraling living costs and soaring rents that are making it impossible for working people to make ends meet. The marches were the largest social protest in Israel’s history; accounting for the size of Israel’s population, this is the equivalent of a protest by 10 million people in the United States, or 2 million in Britain.
Looks like Israel is going socialist without the violence.
Sorry Bardolf, Isreal has always been a socialist democracy. Rife with envy against the orthadox jews and the settlers in Judea and Samaria. The rest of them now want the same deal.
bardolf,
Israel is already socialist. They have national health insurance that we help pay for.
catspuke
Nonsense…..
baldork
without the violence.
demographics baby, demographics.
Limbaugh: U.K. Rioters…Equivalent of Obama Voters in U.S.
Both groups blame the rich.
sad, with out the “rich” there are NO jobs.
Oh wait
gobment “jobs” that produce NOTHING, just cost to the TAX payer…..
BLOW BACK………..unintended consequences………..flash mobs, are you listening??
but in a move that could raise tensions, a right group said about 1,000 of its members around the country were taking to the streets to deter rioters.
“We’re going to stop the riots – police obviously can’t handle it,” Stephen Lennon, leader of the -right English Defense League, told The Associated Press. He warned that he couldn‘t guarantee there wouldn’t be violent clashes with rioting youths.
when the government does not do their job, there are people who will step in and do it for them.
African-Englishmen ??
new term? SS, DD
LOL
The English Defence League? Really? Stephen Lennon? What galls me the most is that you cannot even report what the press has stated in full because of the stigma of being far-Right, which is Fascist.
The AP report says and I quote, ““We’re going to stop the riots — police obviously can’t handle it,” Stephen Lennon, leader of the far-right English Defense League, told The Associated Press. He warned that he couldn’t guarantee there wouldn’t be violent clashes with rioting youths.”
Flash mobs conspiracy theory? You must be full off your meds!
In europe, anyone just teeny bit to right of lennin and marx are classified as far right. Or fascist if you will. Take Gerd Wilders for example. Look at the PVV. The only difference to them and any other party in the Netherlands is they want to stop islamic immigration. Therefore they are far right.
Does make me wonder though. All you lefties claim hitler was a right winger. How do you explain him being in bed with the islamics? Grand Mufti visits berlin during the war, recruitment of muslim soldiers to fight for the waffen-ss and wehrmact. Hatred of jews. Murdering of jews. But somehow hitler was a right winger. Oh well no one not even marx epected his followers to make sense.
robin greenteeth
Flash mobs conspiracy theory? You must be full off your meds!
Im sure you demons know all about “meds” in hell.
flash mobs? ask faracan he predicted them, and these are his and holders people after all they would know.
Casper, please go debate this mess with this man.
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/10970/
Note: This man is a lefty.
Thank the Lord. Some sanity appears in London. Now we know who are behind these riots.
Its da jooooooooosssss!!!!!
Bokor Tov 🙂
Neocon just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t make them racist. You think most of America’s problems are caused by violent minorities, members of the GLBTQ community, Hollywood and the DNC.
I think most of its problems are caused by people who would rather shout “No!” than work together.
The Boss is right, if Liberals win, we win if Liberals lose and America collapses from the folly of Conservatives, we win.
Win, win.
Neocon just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t make them racist.
Hmmmm the same thing works in this direction, yet you morons accuse conservatives and TEA party folks of being terrorists, racists, homophobes, xzenophobes non stop.
projection greenteeth?
i suggest you put tape on your glass house.
Casper, perhaps these young “descent” people are looting because “daddy” does not have a job?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024203/UK-RIOTS-2011-Manchester-Midlands-burn-London-control.html
a LIE is a LIE is a LIE
from the fork……
[…] post is dedicated to self-declared spokesbigot “neocon” at Blogs4Victory. This man believes in the fascist dictates of the English Defence League and likely is a fan of […]
total BS
I merely posted a portion of an article from the blaze that the* English defense league* was about to enter the fray.
I warned that if the state does not do their job others would step in.
I do not endorse or condemn this group, it is merely an observation.
no surprise you LOONS would make SHIITE sandwich and call it ham.
You have now hit the bigtime Neo. Lucifer is mad at you. I am so damn jealous. This almost makes up for your crimes against humanity. Almost. That codepinko fatty image is still seared into my head.
WOW
front page on the fork…….
bwany must be soooo pwoud
BBBBBrrrrrrrrrrrrrttttttttt
You know guys…with all the reportes you have, you really could load up yor comments sections a lot with your own people. Or you could learn about sock puppets.This method allows to APPEAR that you have some readers.
Obviously you folks did not graduate from the Josef Göbels Propogandisches Schule.
GMB
they post a couple of their family pictures then project them on to us.
LOL
GMB
it appears they did attend rev wrights school of racists along with al, je$$e and fartacan, shabab, barry and the Mooch.
You merely did no such thing. You were proud of that post. You were boasting that the EDL would crack some black skulls in Tottenham. You want them to go in and prove that this fascist organisation is better at doing this than the Metropolitan police. But you have every right to be a bigot and I have every right to call you out for it.
How do Louis Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson affect your life more than Boehner and McConnell? Do they have a greater control over what happens to you and yours than Pelosi or Reid or Geithner or Holder or Obama???
What is it with you and black people?? Do you really think that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan are representative of the average middle class black person in the US?
uuh robin greenteeth
your reading abilities are only eclipsed by your lack of comprehension.
see how easy this is…well for us who are alive, maybe you demons in hell should re-tune pain the gumdrop computer.
For Fourth Night in Row, U.K. Set Ablaze by Rioters
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/for-fourth-night-in-row-u-k-set-ablaze-by-rioters/
What is it with you and black people??
NOTHING
I oppose riots, looting, murders, rapes, welfare, food stamps, hate, racism, thuggery, race pimping, race baiting by anybody.
do your homework and give me some stats on demographics.
do da name wright, faracan, je$$e, al, shabaz, king, and hundreds of others ring a bell.?
show me their reciprocals on the right……..mmmm mmmmm mmmmm
robin nitwit greenteeth
since you asked…….
http://violentflashmobs.com/
Neocon I oppose those things [with the exception of food stamps and welfare which the poor need] as well. For those on the right [you asked} David Duke Alex Jones Bill White Hal Turner Timothy McVeigh Terry Nichols Randall Terry Wiley Drake Scott Roeder and I could go on and on. We don’t need any of these people having the negaphone’s but they do and they have to because I want my 1st amendment right too. The thing is there has to be a limit between free speech, activism and violence.
No race has cornered the market on evil– it is as pain so eloquently has said many time “A human failing.”
So these “flash mobs” are kids linked by social networks and cell phones to meet in a particular place to beat up or rob people? Okay I’m sure that sounds scary to you but since it’s only happening in Philadelphia right now and this is an election year in Philadelphia I’ll withhold judgment on how serious this is.
I think hooliganism with a catchy new name just makes people predisposed to fear and panic like right wingers more fearful and panicky.
robin nitwit greenteeth
NONE of the ones you mention are considered “community LEADERS” , have their own “churches”, TV shows, organizations, and are spokespersons for the white community.
NONE of them are commonly invited to the white house and have council with national politicians.
NONE have sons or are in congress or the senate.
try again your failings are monumental.
HUH ???????????????????????????????????????????
http://violentflashmobs.com/
just makes people predisposed to fear and panic like right wingers more fearful and panicky.
LOL LOL only in your lil circle jerks of stupidity is that true…..LOL
most of us conservatives are former military, police, firemen, construction workers, farmers, iron and steel workers, hardly the fainting lillies you dream us to be.
Pray you do not push us to the point of no return, and bring violence to us. you may not like what you get.
EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA!!!!!!! In a stunning ploy today Rupert Murdoch bought hells leading newspaper and proceeds with firing the whole staff. Women and minorities rumored to be hardest hit.
Yep some very sad faces in hell today folks. Stay tuned for further updates.
Mr Murdoch has enough of his own problems. And besides he can’t afford Hell’s newspaper of record.
He has enough change in his pocket to buy you loonies out. I have enough change in my pocket to buy you loonies out. Why bother though?
If you loonies just up and disappeared there would no opportunity to make fun of you.
Say hello to che, nikolai, Iosef, and mao, for me please.