We got this:
Now we get a supine population being roughed up by welfare bums.
You know something, I’ve never actually owned a gun. Always figured that enough of my fellow citizens had them to ensure a general defense against riot. But now I’m going to buy one. To all the barbarians out there – you go ahead and start a riot in my town, we’ll have words.
Civilization stands on the edge of destruction – the once-great nation of Britain, which used to boast that it never had and never shall lie at the proud foot of a conqueror, is dying. This is the left wants for us, too…a disarmed, cowardly and government-dependent serfdom, while barbarians prowl unchecked. Not for me – my America shall live, even if it requires the shedding of barbarian and patriot blood.
I would recommend at least one firearm per family member you deem capable of controlled fire. Use approiate caliber weapons for younger persons. Don’t give a .40 caliber pistol to a twelve year old. There are plenty of .22 caliber semi-automatic pistols with high capacity. Riles for any distance shoting. I personally have a winchester model 94 30-30 with a 40x power scope. Shotguns of at least 20 guage for close in defense work. Make shure the barrells are as short as local law allows. I would recommend staying away from using any buckshot of any ought. Spray is more important than size.
Also if you know how to load your own rounds I would reccomend loading some of your shells with rock salt. If you are using a double barrel, I would choose a side by side. They are easier to reload. Over unders, people have a tendency to get in a hurry and fumble rounds on the ground.
There is much much more you can. The info is easy to find.
12 ga pump 5 round or more capacity 18-20 barrel
definitely use buck shot,( NO salt )
load every other round #4 shoot for the face to blind. 00 to incapacitate, slugs to kill.
remember this is not to run some kids out of your pumpkin patch, ( rock saly) this is for you, your family, your neighborhood’s survival.
.45 cal ACP or the judge for hand gun.
I strongly recommend a gun safety course which usually explains your states self defense laws.
I went to go shoot at the range yesterday at 4:30 usually a cake walk at that time of day
there were 40-50 people stand in line ahead of me
I went home, seems a lot of people are thinking what Mark is.
No salt? Sure Neo, for people that no what they are doing. For people that never seen an elephant you have to prepare for a lot of unknowns. Buck shot does not spray as much and there are fewer pellets in each shell. If you are in a hurry and time is not on your side you need to make sure your target goes down.
Even a person hyped up on meth will go down in tremendous pain when he gets a load rocksalt blown into his body. Thats why I would use it.
Again as far a shot gun. Most young people have a problems with the reach for pumps.
My twelve yeard old daughter doesnt have the reach for a 20 guage pump action. The 20 guage side by side is another story.
My thoughts, I guess I should have made them more clear, are for people that have never used a fire arm. My thoughts on this would be for to put as much lead into the air as as possible. Scare the shit out of the looters and takers and live to fight agin.
as for me, training kicks in……
NEVER shoot, unless you NEED to shoot to kill.
NEVER shoot, unless it is a shot to kill.
OOH RAH.. Semper Fi, Do or Die.
Depends on who you are facing. If you are defending against a swat team type of enforcement I will shoot too wound. Takes down the mark and also at least one other to pull him out of the line. If you are defending against untrained then I would agree.
If anyone out thinks the Po-Po are on your side. You better take a look at how the Po-Po reacted in london. DON”T count on any authority except what comes out of the barrell of your weapons.
the police have become union thugs that
“just want to go home at the end of the day”
you are considered perps and anyone outside of LEO are considered the enemy.
when confronted by violent marauding mobs they are weak kneed and tend to stand back
, when 10 of them pulling you of a vehicle during a traffic stop they are rambo unleashed.
If any weapon even a legal CCW they totally freek out,
I was just discussing this subject this morning at the Staff Meeting in Make-believe Land with minorplaya plain (that’s me), and Blotch (also me), and Ferdrich Putz (you guessed it, me) and Keystone Player (you get the idea) about what a … what ? … Ma, stop yellin’ … the basement door is open, we can all hear ya’ … yeah – I want mac & cheese … no – I don’t want milk … cut the crusts off of the PB&J an’ I’ll be up in a minnut! Where was I? Oh right, we’re all in agreement that Mark Nooman is a loser!
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Neo, You forgot S.B.C. ot P. R. o N. D.
I forgot to say, I mean he forgot to say, that is Caveat Emptor forgot, no me, but someone that’s not me forgot to say that neocon1 is also a loser, and we don’t waste much bandwidth discussing him on my … uh … our website.
I’m really really lonely – and so am I, won’t you please talk to me?
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Well, I read it, and so did I! So there!
Did I , i mean he really write Order of the Superior Vena Cava???? WTF, am I really that stupid and pathetic?
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Caveat, you are naught but a fraud. We all know that the correct name is LEAD Ekonomyst.
And the equation is y=ynot-whatif.
And the equation is y=ynot-whatif. ++++++WTF ???
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Thanks Neo, The GMG say that video and now wants one of those things. Hell of a thing to give your girl for you 17th anniverisy. Is the 17th a shotgun/pistol combo? or a SKS with a brick of 7.62×39?
I got one the 2.5 inch chamber, easier to find rounds for.
use .410 shot rounds ( for PISTOLS,) I get mine at K mart or a gun shop.
full colt .45 rounds ( not ACP.)
It is a 5 shot revolver,
I load First two #4 shot ( as in the vid clip), next 2 = 00 buck, fifth .45 colt
great for bedroom defense, home invasion, car jacking or a gang of thugs, big spread, low to no kill after 10 feet first two rounds
next three ? well if anyone is left attacking….AMF !
17= here come da judge….
I got the ultra light schweeeet
every where its out of stock. The local gun shop said it would be at least 6 months to get on in.
oh yeah I bet,
I’ll check around here see if any gun shops have they can ship to a shop near you…….
gotta go now, going out for dinner with friends.
i can’t wait to see you with a gun in your hand
ready to shed some patriot blood…..
sounds foolish coming from you for some reason….
because you’re much better with a keyboard than a gun
Yawn…..you are irrelevent. How does that feel?
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I don’t have anything to say but since that hasn’t stopped me before I’ll continue my delusion that you’re all reading my posts and in awe of my superior intellect. Here’s a cut n’ paste from someone else that I’ll pass off as if it were my idea.
First, it important to note that no right is absolute, even those supposedly granted by God and guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. For example, even though the 1st Amendment guarantees me the right to free speech, the right is limited. I cannot publish a newspaper in which I claim that a certain public figure, for example the president of a major company, is a cocaine user, if that fact is known to me to be completely untrue. It would be called libel, and it is a valid abridgment of my rights. The classic example of an abridgment of freedom of speech is the imminent danger rule: I cannot stand up in a crowded theatre and scream that there is a fire (if there is not), because the ensuing panic may cause injury.
American Medical Women’s Ass’n, General Federation of Women’s Clubs, Int’l Ladies’ Garment Workers’ Union, League of Women Voters of the United States, Nat’l Council of Jewish Women, Nat’l Council of Negro Women, Nat’l Organization for Women, Women’s Nat’l Democratic Club, Women Strike for Peace, Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND), Women’s Int’l League for Peace and Freedom, YWCA of the U.S.A.
IfIt is, I grant you a meaningless list, but since I’m pretending to be a lesbian today I’ll allude to some sort of womyns’ issue.
So, there is obviously much disagreement already about the limitations of the 2nd. One thing is clear, though, and that is it can be limited to a certain extent, morally and legally.
The pen is mightier than the sword…but I’m going to get the sword, all the same.
Get your sword, but please be safe with it.
If you are really thinking about getting a gun here is my advise.
1- Don’t buy a gun unless you have tried it out first. Years ago, I owned a .357 revolver. Great gun, but it kicked like a mule. I had a hard time hitting anything because I overcompensated for the kick. The 9mm I have now is sweet. I am not a great shot, but I’m not that bad either. It’s a very comfortable gun to use.
2- This is one of the few times I agree with neo. I strongly recommend a gun safety course which usually explains your states self defense laws. Find someone to teach you how to fire the gun.
3- When you purchase a gun, either buy a gun lock and/or a gun safe. One of my former students killed his sister while playing with his dad’s gun a few years ago. It wouldn’t have happened if the dad had done either of the above.
4- Once you have purchased the gun, practice with it. Not just firing it, but also loading it, unloading it, cocking it, disengaging the safety, etc.
5- NEVER point your gun at something or someone unless you are going to kill it. EVEN if you think it’s unloaded. It is not a toy.
Hope that helps.
Both S&W and Tarus have revolvers with built in gun locks.
Casper I not critisizing you you. Gun locks are just another way of disarming people. Intruder(s) come into your home. You think they are going to wait while you unlock your gun or open your safe? Locks and safes are just another way to say…you are dead. If you have small children in your home and are afraid that they will play with firearms laying around keep them on or near your person at all times.
I can go from bed, to gun safe, to loaded gun in less than 20 seconds (I’ve timed myself). In the mean time, I have two watch dogs and a 7″ Gerber.
I’m not willing to have loaded guns where there is any chance my grandkids can get to them. To me a gun safe is essential.
I should say I don’t use gun locks. I keep my guns in a safe, unloaded. it only takes a couple of seconds to load one of them (I have loaded clips).
I believe in owning guns, I just don’t want to take the chance of hurting someone I love with one.
BTW, went out shooting with my daughter’s boyfriend a few weeks ago. He has an AK-47 and it was a blast trying it out.
I have both a gun safe and gun locks.
However I also have one handy UNlocked.
I taught all my sons how to handle weapons as well as my grand sons early on.
I took them as soon as they were ready ( by their idea of being ready) to the gun range and let them experience the noise, kick, power of the weapon.
That took the curiosity and mystique away and left a good respect of the power a pistol or rifle has.
I usually start them out with firing the .45, or Ak.
The kick and noise scares the bejeezus out of them.
from then on it is easy to train them as they are somewhat scared of the weapon, then let them shoot the .22 or .25
Weapons are like poisonous snakes, no matter how much you handle them and how familiar you become with them they can at any time bite you with a fatal bite.
none the less there is NO equalizer on the earth like a good iron when you need one.
God made all men, Sam Colt made them all equal !!
in the true form of the USMC I have a K-bar on my night stand, no need to open the safe, load, lock fumble in the dark and fear.
If you are in my room/house you will never see or hear me, but you will die close up and personal.
The locked up up gun is to frighten the neighbors by knowing you have one.
“in the true form of the USMC I have a K-bar on my night stand, no need to open the safe, load, lock fumble in the dark and fear.”
The Gerber on my night stand
and my dogs would give enough time to get to my guns.
I would take my Gerber over your K-bar any day. Not only is it a great knife for up close, it’s the best throwing knife I’ve ever owned.
“He has an AK-47 and it was a blast trying it out.”
This is probably the second tome we have ever really agreed on something (the first being Applebees). Kids need to be introduced to firearms early. I showed all of my children my guns and showed them how to use them at an early age. i also taught them that if they were at a friend’s house and someone was playing with at gun, they needed to leave.
“Weapons are like poisonous snakes, no matter how much you handle them and how familiar you become with them they can at any time bite you with a fatal bite.”
There isn’t anything you have ever said on this blog that I agree with more.
There are no dangerous weapons. Only dangerous people. To each thier own. Depend on a dog for early warning, If you must. Dogs can be neutralized without a sound. 20 seconds to your weapons? Sounds like a life time to me.
Then again, I live in a rural area. You city people must be different.
Green Mountain Boy August 11, 2011 at 11:39 pm #
“There are no dangerous weapons. Only dangerous people”
Wow, I’m agreeing with both you and neo on the same night.
“20 seconds to your weapons? Sounds like a life time to me.”
20 seconds to my guns. 2 seconds to my knife. And how do you know I don’t live in a rural area?
20 seconds in the day light, with no fear, no anxiety, no pressure is easily achieved.
when your wife wakes you up at 3 am from a deep sleep in a panic and says there is some one in the house heading for the bedroom 20 seconds in the dark, complete panic, and 1/2 half asleep goes out the window fast.
Catspuke, the knife is a nice manly thought, but have you ever stuck one into another human being?
could you WITHOUT hesitation?
believe me it IS up close and personal and takes a set of stainless steel balls as big as klintoons head.
just a thought, dont be fooled by bravado, you must KNOW that you can and WILL.
shooting some one from 10 ft away is relatively easy.
There isn’t anything you have ever said on this blog that I agree with more.
Casper. I will say this. Now that you seem to abandoned the “gotcha” syndrome, you are much easier to speak with. You are right. I just assumed you lived in the city. Most do.
Beg pardon here. How many attackers is a knife going to fight off. Take these riots in Britain. MOB RULES!!. Yes they do have power in numbers.
Ask yourself how many people you could fight off with your knife. This is a self question. Run the scenarios through your head. If all you are worried about is one attacker you might be fine. How about two? Three? Four maybe?
No plan ever survives contact with the enemy. Some old dead german dude said that. It is true though.
“Beg pardon here. How many attackers is a knife going to fight off. Take these riots in Britain. MOB RULES!!. Yes they do have power in numbers.”
Mobs make noise and they don’t move that fast. I’m guessing that I could get to my guns in time. That gives me over 100 rounds in clips. If that’s not enough I’m probably dead any way. To be honest it would take 1 RPG through the bedroom window to take out any of us.
True. If it is in good working order. Anyone that that trust a rpg round to actually work as intended is just a bit foolish.
What I am saying pretty much is this. Expect the unexpected. I know cliche right? True though. Do not depend on one option only. Do not depend on anything at all. Dogs can be neutralized. Alarms can be neutrilized. Your gun can jam. Ammo can misfire. Knife blades can become stuck in bones or break. I have even had a selector switch break on a A4.
Shit happens. Uasually not at a good time or place.
I remember one day in VN we got some NUGS in from the stares, from NYC of all places….cool cool kitty the boyz from NY city.
That night I showed them how to rack in, trousers on, boots on left center of cot open laced,
next flack jacket, M-14 (yeah) at head of bunk with helmet on top…..
they were sooooo cooool and salty laughed at us “salty’ dudes but they were not afraid nothing could scare them……..
UNTIL mortars, 155 arty, 122 Katusha rockets and small arm fire lit the night up like high noon and were falling around us like the best 4th of july grand finale you ever saw, woke us up.
we all manned the perimeter and fox holes and were shooting wildly as the NVA attacked our lines.
EXCEPT the four NUGS who were in their skivvies heads down NO rifles, NO trousers, NO flack jackets, NO helmets…but pure panic.
Our sgt had to order them to return to the hootch under fire and retrieve their gear and return to the line or he would shoot them where they hid in their fox holes.
a lot of CROW pie the next day……….after that they were good Marines.
“No plan ever survives contact with the enemy. Some old dead german dude said that. It is true though.”
“Shit happens. Uasually not at a good time or place.”
So you prepare for the worst and hope for the best. The best thing I have going for me is that there isn’t a big reason to go after me. I live a great life but I don’t own that much that anyone would want. That doesn’t mean I haven’t prepared. I am in better shape than most people.
It should also be mentioned that the mobs in London weren’t going into people houses as much as they were going into businesses. Any mobs that are generated in WY probably aren’t going to attack a teacher’s house. I don’t have that much to steal.
Hungry Mob? Well stocked pantry? You might think you do not have a lot to steal. You may be one of those “rich people” the mob wants punish.
Or maybe someone has a grudge against you. Then use the cover of the unrest to take out his anger on you.
Expect the unexpected.
it only takes one, one time.
do not be lulled to sleep by what happened in england.
you may be sorted out BECAUSE you are a teacher.
These are mobs rioting, looting, rampaging.
have you ever been in or around a riot of this magnitude where the police stand behind lines and do nothing?
you better pray you dont.
I was in one of those once. It was called Bagdahd. 🙂
you ASSume it will happen at night 20 seconds from the gun safe
would you have been prepared in Wisconsin at the exit of the fair with your wife and grand children if a frenzied mob attacked your family??
20 miles does not = 20 seconds??
did you meet Baghdad Bob ????
he said you were running away in full retreat as the M1 A1’s rolled by his window….LOL
thomas’s old job ??
Naw. Bobbie was long gone by the time I got there. I do belive one of my guys did slash the tires of a cnn satelight truck though. Couldn’t prove it.
Flat tires are an inconvience. Dodgeing mortar rounds is fun but deadly. 🙂
Casper. one last bit of advice. Just in case you are ever attacked by a mob of clwns. Go for the juggler. 🙂