Iowa Straw Poll

With Rick Perry’s announcement the straw poll will be a bit of an anti-climax…whomever does well in Iowa today will not have been tested against Perry.  Still, it could winnow the herd a bit – anyone who competed heavily and does lousy will be greatly weakened.

Anyways, discuss the straw poll and all else relating to the 2012 election.

UPDATE:  Michelle Bachmann.  From NRO’s The Corner:

Michele Bachmann won the Ames Straw Poll today with 4,823 votes.

Ron Paul was about 150 votes behind (4,671). Tim Pawlenty was a distant third (2,293).

Among the rest of the field, Rick Perry had 1,718 write-in votes, Rick Santorum 1,657 votes, Herman Cain 1,465 votes, Mitt Romney 567 votes, Newt Gingrich 385 votes, Jon Huntsman 69 votes, and Thad McCotter 35 votes…

Bachmann did what she had to do, Paul’s fanatics put him up there in a perfectly meaningless way, Pawlenty fell far short…everyone else had no real reason to be there.

72 thoughts on “Iowa Straw Poll

  1. neocon1 August 13, 2011 / 5:19 pm

    heard today the donks have already outed Perry on some scandal.
    at least he has a BC

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 13, 2011 / 5:41 pm


      We know they’ll smear whomever….but, I think the people are tuning the MSM/DNC out.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 6:08 pm

        I would agree Mark. The msm/dnc has just about reached it’d believable limit of propaganda. However that does not mean that people are tuning into the gop.

        Use your favorite search engine. Perry trans texas highway. perry vaccinations. Look at Governor Perrys state facebook page. Seems very proud of all that federal pork coming home. Look at how much debt he has ran up in texas.
        Don’t take my word for it. Do the reaserch yourself. Rick Perry running for president. Color me unimpressed.

      • bardolf August 13, 2011 / 10:35 pm

        “Paul’s fanatics put him up there in a perfectly meaningless way.”-Mark

        Pro-life, against debt ceiling raises, against NAFTA, against continued presence in ME and subsidizing a prosperous Europe with military bases, against ethanol subsidies, …

        Clearly insane. No chance Bachmann complained about the Obama stimulus and then sent letters asking for that $$$ even from the EPA. D in economics Perry who rides a wave of minimum wage jobs and increases government debt almost as fast as another former GOP governor is the right guy to go toe to toe with Obama. Maybe Romney who proposed Obamacare can explain why it’s wrong.

  2. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 6:14 pm

    More on perry’s economic record.

    During the fiscal years for which Rick Perry exercised budgetary authority as Governor of Texas (FY02 through FY10)

    • Debt outstanding increased 184.2%, or 20.5% per year

    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 140.4%, or 15.6% per year

    • Total liabilities increased 60.6%, or 6.7% per year

    • Total liabilities per capita increased 35.8%, or 4.0% per year

    This is a conservative?

  3. 6206j August 13, 2011 / 6:53 pm

    Bachmann wins, with Paul a close second. T-Paw is finished. GMB, who is it again you like? Is it Cain?

    • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 7:03 pm

      Actually I am beginning to sour on all of them. Cain for apologizing for telling truth about muslims. Bachman has some minor problems with consistantcy. Don’t get me wrong I would vote for either one as potus.
      What I will not vote for is hypocracy. If you have ever supported any tenent of the progressive agenda you will not get my vote.
      Ron Paul. An absolute nutcase. This man probably should be locked up in a mental institution. I would vote for him. He would enable the collapse of welfare state. I seroiusly doubt he could get 67 senators to overide his vetoes.
      Bye bye money. 🙂

  4. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 7:25 pm

    I am still of the mind this poll does not mean much of anything. Huntsman got only 69 votes?? Lollol. I just can’t believe that. 🙂

  5. thomasg0102 August 13, 2011 / 7:42 pm

    This poll is the death knell for Pawlenty, Cain, and Santorum.

    It’s going to be between Bachmann, Romney and Perry.

    Any one of those three will get creamed in the general election.

  6. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 8:10 pm

    Den Besserwisser is schon wieder hier! Alle heilen Den Besserwisser!

  7. casper August 13, 2011 / 8:29 pm

    At this point I would predict that Perry gets the nod.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 13, 2011 / 9:22 pm


      Perry does have a lot going for him, but I don’t know – just don’t feel much “oomph” for him. We’ll see how he does.

      Right now, I lean towards Bachmann.

  8. watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 8:36 pm

    Green Mountain Boy reviews the litany of debt created by Rick Perry and asks, “This is a conservative?”

    Green, where have you been the past 30 years? That is exactly what conservatives do.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 8:58 pm

      Watson. You obviously have not been around much lately. No more needs to be said.
      Hey everyone please tell watsonredux what I think of vast majority of “republicans”.

      • watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 9:23 pm

        Oh, I forgot. They’re not real conservatives. Okie dokie. Too bad they’re the only ones we’ve got.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 9:29 pm

        Yes. It is too bad. What is even worse are those that will support them because they are the lesser of two evils.
        You libbies and your silly little got ya games. Yawn

  9. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 9:52 pm

    Debt outstanding increased 12.7%, or 4.2% per year

    • Per capita debt outstanding increased 7.4%, or 2.5% per year

    • Total liabilities decreased 34.6%, or 11.5% per year

    • Total liabilities per capita decreased 37.7%, or 12.6% per year

    Watson. Here is the record of a “conservative” No other politician in recent history can march it. Please note the last two lines. You got any idea who it was?

    • watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 10:10 pm

      Gosh, Green, let me see… Who would it be… thinking…

      Oh! Would it be half-term Governor Sarah Palin?!

      And why do you think that happened? Did she reducing spending by a significant amount? Raise taxes by a significant amount? What do you think?

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:20 pm

        Heres another one for you. 173 “present” votes. Any idea who this might be.
        Hint: this man has never had a real job. This man and his wife have both “voluntarily” surrendered thier licnences to pratice law, another term for “disbarred”

        Got to admit. Thats a lot “present” votes. Wonder if thats a record?

      • watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 10:25 pm

        Er, uh, Green, that’s your answer to my questions above? Or is this some kind of lame segue to another topic?

        If you have something to say, why don’t you just say it, instead of playing these childish games.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:30 pm

        No not at all. Did not see your question before I aske mine.

        Here is you answer

        Severance Tax on the oil industry of Alaska. Pretty much the fairest tax you will find

        And just for you, here is the definition
        A tax levied by a state on the extractor of oil, gas, or minerals intended for consumption in other states.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:35 pm

        Neither bams or the mooch are leagally able to pratice law in the state of illinois. Sounds like they gave up thier bar cetification to me.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:38 pm

        Playing childish games? LOL Thats your and Thomas game.

      • watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 10:38 pm

        Yes, a tax on the oil industry. I suppose then, that you hope that she is elected to the presidency so she can do the same to the oil industry nationally, if not other industries. That’s gonna work.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:46 pm

        Is that supposed to be a got cha? Lolzer watson. Your argument is weak to say the least. Why dont you read up on what this tax replaced and how it is working now. that would be too easy though, it would be too much work

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:48 pm

        Really Bardolf, trusting snopes? Like they do not have an agenda? hehe lololol

      • bardolf August 13, 2011 / 10:54 pm

        The Volokh Conspiracy (if you don’t trust snopes)

        “Michelle Obama ‘voluntarily surrendered’ her law license in 1993.” Again, I’m not sure what the quotes mean, but the bar record says that she is “Voluntarily inactive.” This is even more common for lawyers who don’t need a bar card, such as many lawyers who don’t appear in court or counsel clients other than employer. Being an active status lawyer costs more money (see Rule 756) than being inactive, and it requires one to do Continuing Legal Education classes (Rule 790), unless one is in certain jobs for which the CLE requirements are waived). The difference in bar fees, for instance, is why I myself was inactive in 2001. Moreover, it’s pretty easy to switch back to active status should one need to do that (as I did in early 2002); again, in Illinois, see Rule 756.

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 10:56 am


        you mean the AA unopposed “elected” 1/2 term senator who voted present and cant find his birth cert or SS card?
        the NEVER employed community agitator?
        dumb and dumber elected by fools and nitwits.

  10. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:02 pm

    “…everyone else had no real reason to be there.”

    Oh come on!! Mr. McCotter got 35 votes. 35!! Do you hear me. Since the votes were bought and paid for who knows what else can happen?

  11. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:54 pm

    Heres anothe riddle for ya all.

    The answer is. 76

    What is the question.

  12. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 10:55 pm

    Just one more riddle.

    The answer is 1in 9

    Whats the question?

  13. watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 10:59 pm

    Green wrote: “The answer is. 76 What is the question.”

    How many trombones are there? Next.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:04 pm

      Wrong answer redux but keep trying. If dubya had did this watsonredux would have been all over the place complaining.

  14. watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 11:00 pm

    Here’s one for you. The answer is eight. What is the question?

    • bardolf August 13, 2011 / 11:03 pm

      how many is enough?

    • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:06 pm

      How many years in your delude brain you want bams to be president. You just may get your wish. That is pretty much up to other people now.

      • bardolf August 13, 2011 / 11:10 pm

        Wrong question. Everyone knows that “Eight is Enough” was the greatest TV show in history.

      • watsonredux August 13, 2011 / 11:11 pm

        LOL. I liked the answer better, but alas they’re both wrong one.

        Oh well, it’s been fun playing. As a parting gift, I have reserved for you a copy of Joe McGinniss’ book about Sarah Palin, The Rogue, due out in September. I’m sure you will enjoy it.

        Your pal,

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:14 pm

        Whatevere. Keep your book. Would not want you buying tinder for the fieplace,

  15. Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:02 pm

    Sorry Bardolf this another one you will not win. Nieter one are currently able to practice law. That is a fact. Maybe they can pay thier fees and get reinstated, then again maybe not? Don’t think they are all that poor that they can not afford to pay the reinstatement fee do you?

    • bardolf August 13, 2011 / 11:08 pm


      Michelle could move her status to active and become a lawyer quickly in Illinois after Obama loses to Paul in 2012. As Volokh conspiracy says there are reasons not to have your license active beyond the couple bucks. I don’t care either way but there is no evidence that they were close to being debarred or whatever conspiracy. I don’t think Volokh is exactly a left winger. Just doesn’t wear a tinfoil.

      In any case another smear by Mark against Ron Paul. I’m beginning to think Mark is one of those war lovers. “The seas belong to us.” – snort

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:19 pm

        Bardolf, explain this.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 13, 2011 / 11:24 pm

        Paul has to get there first. Would be interesting though. There would have to be padded walls installed in the oval office.

      • bardolf August 14, 2011 / 2:28 am


        The last bit has caused quite a stir, however a paralegal with Illinois ARDC has just clarified for me that this is not an indication of wrongdoing. Rather, prior to 2000, attorneys who wanted to become inactive had to seek the permission of the IL Supreme Court, and that’s the court order being referred to. Since 2000, no such court order is necessary, but prior to 2000 it was. Further, I’m informed that if there were any sort of disciplinary action taken against her it would be listed on that page.

      • bardolf August 14, 2011 / 2:29 am


        Then stop with the nonsense. If they were debarred Hilary would have had a field day during the primaries.

        Already debunked the Michelle Obama one above.

  16. Green Mountain Boy August 14, 2011 / 5:53 am

    Bardolf. Only in your mind is it debunked. Bottom line . As of this moment niether one is legally able to pratice law. YOU say it is debunked. That is a matter of opinion. Just like my statement that “voluntarily retired” is another word for disbarred.

    • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 11:00 am

      they were both disbarred just like JFnK was dishonorably discharged and reinstated by jimmah crapper.

    • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 11:02 am


      No former name?????

      when and where did barry soetoro go away and BO come into play?

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 11:04 am

        baldork a LAW YAH ???????

        where at the pitchfork??

      • watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 2:26 pm

        Thanks, Clown, for providing two questions for GMB’s answer of “76.” What is the average number of daily posts by NeoClown devoid of any thought? And of course, my favorite, What is NeoClown’s IQ?

    • casper August 14, 2011 / 11:59 am

      At one point in my life I was a Certified Broadcast Radio Engineer. At another point I was licensed to sell Insurance and stocks and bonds. I haven’t maintained any of those licenses in years since taking a different career path. The licenses weren’t taken away, i chose not to renew them.

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 2:40 pm


        were you a “licensed” CB radio operator also?

    • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 2:36 pm


      I say stupidity accompanied by projection.

    • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 2:38 pm


      ooh a third grade gotcha, your mommy must be proud of such a lofty accomplishment.
      maybe tomorrow you will get to ride in the front of the short bus.

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 2:47 pm

        She was not disbarred. However, according to the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission (ARDC) of the Supreme Court of Illinois, Mrs. Obama ‘is on court ordered inactive status’. We don’t know why the court ordered her to inactive status. See

        Yes, essentially Michelle Obama was disbared. The Supreme Court of Illinois stated that she is illegible to practice law. Due to her being unable to practice law in the State of Illinois, she is ineligable to pass the bar in any other state or get receiprocity. She is effectively disbared. Otherwise she would be sanctioned and allowed to return to practice.

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 2:58 pm

        Obama’s registration in Indonesia under the name “Barry Soetoro” also raises questions as to whether he adopted that name in the U.S. at any time.
        According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he stated he did not have any former names.

        and had no birth certificate.

      • watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 3:08 pm

        Projection? Gotcha? You assume everyone is as dumb as you are. No, the fact that Michele Bachmann is–gasp!–no longer a practicing attorney is proof that she was no good at it.

        This all just shows how idiotic you and GMB are with your half-baked theories. I bet you’re both right now working on your new book, Where’s The Attorney License?!

        That’s going to be a lot of copying-and-pasting for you since we all know you can’t cobble together more than a couple of sentences on your own. Good luck with that.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 14, 2011 / 3:13 pm

        I pay no attention to watson. Just another gotcha boy. Playing tag outside would suit him better. He might be able to say gotcha there.

        Hmmm how many court oders have been sealed over the life of the United States? Millions? Who knows?

        Why was Barry Sotero not lsted as a former name? Again who knows?

        Bardolf is just being Bardolf. I say pig in a blanket. He says pork filled bread product. And it tastes better too!! 🙂

  17. watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 3:21 pm

    Then why do you keep responding to me, Green? This all started with your pathetic whining about Rick Perry leaving a mountain of debt in his wake–as if that’s something new for a conservative.

  18. watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 3:34 pm

    And honestly, Green, you’re the king of gotchas around here. No one else even comes close. You post “answers” to questions and then challenge everyone else to look them up. Wait until they find the answer! Gotcha! Truly childish.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 14, 2011 / 3:40 pm

      No. I posted them just for you and noone else.
      76 the number of rounds of golf bams has played since he has been in office.
      1 in 9. The number of days in office that bams and the mooch have spent on vacation.

      I never expected you to understand them. Playing with you is so easy. You keep it up though. You might get to the big league someday there fella.

      • neocon1 August 14, 2011 / 3:48 pm


        You might get to the big league someday there fella.

        shining their shoes is more like it for waspsting


      • watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 6:16 pm

        Oh wow, two gotchas in one from the Gotcha King! And posting them just for me, the one you “pay no attention to.” You’re so easy to play with.

        But imagine! 76 rounds of golf. My God. That’s like, once every two weeks! Impeachment material there, Green. But yes, I do understand. You’re the one that once said the president of the United States shouldn’t be allowed to play golf at all while the nation is at war. I remember now. You were also perplexed that the military continues operating hundreds of golf courses on military bases even in time of war.

        I wonder if President Obama keeps a scorecard when he plays. If not, it must be a sinister plot to keep state secrets from Green Mountain Boy. And if he does, what name does he sign it with?! I think you need to investigate.

  19. watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 6:22 pm

    Oh, by the way, you’re new hero of conservative fiscal prudence, Rick Perry, claims to have balanced the Texas state budget in 2009. How? With $6.4 billion in stimulus money. All the while he railed against “bailouts.” Typical hypocrite.

    • Cluster August 14, 2011 / 6:26 pm


      While I disagreed with the entire premise of the failed stimulus, another way took at that, is that was the states money in the first place. It was just filtered through the federal government.

      • watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 7:26 pm

        Great. So be honest about it. Don’t be a hypocrite (referring to Governor Perry, not you). Perry is not.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 14, 2011 / 6:44 pm

      Golfing and vacations used to be a big deal when Dubya was in the oval office. What changed?????

      • watsonredux August 14, 2011 / 7:24 pm

        What changed????? Evidently you did. I’ve never brought it up as an issue. You have.

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