Warren Buffett Wants His Taxes Raised

From the New York Times:

…Last year my federal tax bill — the income tax I paid, as well as payroll taxes paid by me and on my behalf — was $6,938,744. That sounds like a lot of money. But what I paid was only 17.4 percent of my taxable income — and that’s actually a lower percentage than was paid by any of the other 20 people in our office. Their tax burdens ranged from 33 percent to 41 percent and averaged 36 percent.

If you make money with money, as some of my super-rich friends do, your percentage may be a bit lower than mine. But if you earn money from a job, your percentage will surely exceed mine — most likely by a lot…

First off, Warren, if you really want to kick in a bit extra, then why did you have your team of lawyers and accountants (I’m sure you’ve got them) work the system so that you only paid an effective tax rate of 17.4%?  It is no problem for you to pay more – just take fewer deductions.  Or, if you want, just cut a billion dollar check to Uncle Sam.

Of course you won’t do that – not for you to just step up to the plate.  That wouldn’t advance your true cause here…keeping Big Government going through a round of tax hikes which might, indeed, take a little more from your annual income, but which will mostly hit people of far less wealth than you.  Because, dear Warren, you know better than most the truth…for all the billions you have, your wealth is chump change compared to the hundreds of billions held in smaller amounts by the people who make 200k or more per year.

Liberal financial sharks, like Buffett, thrive in a system of fiat money, government-subsidized debt and Big Government graft.  If that system comes to an end – via bankruptcy – then the Buffett’s of the world might have to get a real job.  You know, produce actual wealth  in order to make money.  The thought is too horrifying to contemplate.  So, rather than see their milch cow go down, they write Op-Eds in the New York Times which will then be cited by liberals as justification for higher taxes:  “see, even someone as rich as Warren Buffett wants a tax hike!”.   Sorry, Warren – too bad, liberals:  we’re on to the scam.

I propose a way to test this willingness of Buffett and other bazillionaire liberals to pay taxes.  Rather than hiking income taxes, why don’t we tax wealth?  I propose a 5% tax on all wealth in excess of $5 million.  Total it up for us, Warren – how rich are you?  Forbes says you’re worth $45 billion.  This means we want $2.25 billion from you next year.  And the year after.  You’d better hope your investments hold up, huh?  I know you were hoping for a “soak the middle class” tax hike which also might have cost you a measly million or two more per year (easily made up, of course, by some bit of sharp financial practice elsewhere), but I want to really tax the rich…I want a couple billion dollars from you.  Every year.  You do that, and I’ll agree to a general income tax hike.

Cross PostedNoonan for Nevada

114 thoughts on “Warren Buffett Wants His Taxes Raised

  1. Bodie August 16, 2011 / 1:52 pm

    Clearly Warren Buffet’s skillful dismantling of supply-side stupidity struck a nerve, Mark. As well it should.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 7:46 pm

      Bodie,

      That would be the case if supply side was about cutting taxes on billionaires…it isn’t. The primary thing behind supply side is that taxes can rise to the point where wealth-creation is stymied at the source…someone with billions is irrelevant in the income tax rate debate. No one in supply side economics cares about such (especially if such are merely worthless, liberal financial sharks…like Warren Buffett and George Soros). You can increase the highest marginal tax rate to 99% and it won’t affect Warren Buffett’s $45 billion…you won’t get a cent of it, as it is not income, but existing wealth. This is why Buffett is ok with an income tax hike…it will only take a relative trivial amount of his personal income, it won’t touch his wealth and by keeping Big Government going it will allow him to continue the very financial shennanigans which allowed him to build up $45 billion.

      Supply side says to the man or woman who is trying to build a business, “fear not, if you work hard and expand your business, we won’t punish you with higher taxes”. By taking that fear away, we encourage such hard-driving small and mid-sized business owners to work even harder, building more wealth…and thus generating a larger revenue stream even at the lower income tax rate. This has been demonstrated absolutely many times since 1962.

      What is really sad here is that you are taking the word of a man who profits massively off the current, corrupt system and using his word as a justification for punishing people of vastly less wealth who do more real work for the nation than Buffett would ever think of doing.

      • Bodie August 16, 2011 / 8:02 pm

        No, Mark, what’s sad is your attempt to dodge away from Buffet’s very plain point: The rich are disproportionally shielded from shared sacrifice–and this is precisely how Republicans want it.

      • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 8:44 pm

        Bodie,

        I guess I’ll have to draw you a picture…Buffett says he paid $6 million which works out to 17% of his income. This means that his income is about $35 million per year. He makes that income off of his $45 billion which is never touched by the tax man. Let’s say we move Buffett’s effective tax rate to 34%…double it; that means he’d pay about $12 million….but you still won’t ever touch his $45 billion, which is more money than he could spend in a thousand years if he started spending $120,000.00 per day. He’d still be making – by doing nothing – $23 million per year. What he is proposing won’t hurt him – he is making no sacrifice.

        But at least, you’ll say, he’ll be paying more…but remember those who pay more won’t be just billionaires with more money than they can ever spend. “Millionaires and Billionaires” don’t start at guys who have $45 billion in the bank…it starts at a landscaper with a two man crew who makes $250,000.00 gross per year. He’s working hard, he’s hoping to expand…he does more useful work for America in a day than Buffett has done his whole life…but because of Buffett (and you) he’s now going to be taxed as if he were Buffett.

        And, so, my alternative – a wealth tax. Let’s see what your liberal billionaire’s say when the tax man passes by Jose’s Landscaping and shows up at Buffett’s front door demanding not just a measly $6 million, but $2 billion. Then you’ll learn.

        Or, maybe not…maybe you are unteachable and can only be reached by illogical appeals to envy and hatred?

      • tiredoflibbs August 17, 2011 / 6:13 am

        Mark, you can draw all the pictures you want for Bodie (jeffy, Monty, or whatever alias he decides to be today), he won’t get it because he is not about rational discussion or debate, he is just here to disrupt.

        Notice how he tries to change the point ever so slightly after being proven wrong.

        He is a waste of time.

      • Bodie August 17, 2011 / 11:15 am

        Mark, the picture that you’re drawing is of you dodging the obvious.

        Also, you’re being a bit dishonest in this thread–you claim to want to tax wealth, but always have an excuse ready for why we can’t actually do that. Estate tax? No! (And funnily enough, you complain that the rich have gamed the estate tax, so therefore it is unpalatable…yet you seem to believe that your vague, ill-defined “wealth tax” won’t be similarly gamed…such naivete!) How about a capital gains tax hike? But supply-siders always want to cut the capital gains tax! And so on.

        I get it, you’re upset at Warren Buffet for shooting down your economic talking points, and so you endeavor to at once tear him down and avoid what he actually said. He pointed out the failures of supply-side economics, and you’re left twisting in the wind because of it. That’s a bummer for you, but dodging and dishonesty won’t help.

        Tired: I see you’re still mad at me for stomping you so badly and so often. You’re just going to have to learn how to deal with your anger, little man.

      • Sunny August 17, 2011 / 12:35 pm

        Since when does $250,000.00 equal $1million Mark? I don’t believe anything has been said recently about those who make $250,000.00 a year. $250.000.00 is a RED HERRING!

        Your buddies the Koch brothers will be just fine. They will not miss having one thing they want if they pay a little more in taxes. Even Trump said he was willing to pay more in taxes. I just don’t get it – why guys like you that make an average living like most Americans are so protective of the very, very wealthy.

      • Bodie August 17, 2011 / 7:52 pm

        “I just don’t get it – why guys like you that make an average living like most Americans are so protective of the very, very wealthy.”

        Well, the supply-siders have done an excellent job of selling wish fulfillment: “The American Dream says that you–the hardworking, average American–will be rich someday because that’s what The American Dream is all about. And when you get rich, you don’t want to have to pay anything but the bare minimum of taxes on your well-earned wealth, do you? Then support top-bracket tax cuts now!”

  2. Patrick W August 16, 2011 / 2:02 pm

    I’ve read your posts regarding ‘taxing wealth’ for too long, and even though arguing on the internet is a fools game, I am finally going to ask a simple question. Where do you stand on the estate tax? Because Dem’s have frequently fought to, at minimum, maintain the estate tax, while the GOP has fought to eliminate it. It is by far the closest thing to a ‘wealth tax’ that has been proposed.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 7:52 pm

      Patrick,

      The estate tax was set up so that whether you were a billionaire financier or a family farm, the burden was same. No differentiation for the real worth of the enterprise. Liberals would seriously treat a family owned business worth, say, $10 million the same as they would Jay Rockefeller’s inherited millions…except that Jay and the boys have all made sure that the tax code was written that their money, safely tucked away in tax shelters, never paid an estate tax like some darned fool who actually worked his whole life to build a business and was dumb enough to think he’d be able to leave it to his children.

      Get out of the class warfare business…start thinking about things and trying to tailor your views to reality, not the liberal narrative.

  3. thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 2:26 pm

    Mark,

    Let’s try to keep a civil tongue, OK? If you have a point, make it, but it’s time to stop with the constant name calling and insults. //Moderator

    All buffet said is that the effective rate should be higher for people who are wealthy. Nothing more, nothing less. You are so ideologically naive and misinformed, that you take that and twist it around and insult the man….

    So now he is a crook for being a successful investor? We shouldnt listen to him because he simplystated the fact that his marginal rate is lower than the people who work for him…

    But alas, you simply can’t admit you are wrong, even when faced with a mountain of evidence.

    I said it once, I’ll say it again, supply side economics is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the middle class.

    • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 3:21 pm

      I wonder why Buffett just wont pony up and write a check to the federal government today. Why does he have to wait? Couldn’t he lead by example? In fact, I would be if all rich liberals just volunteered to pay more in taxes, that they could convince the rest of the nation to follow suit.

      Ever wonder why they wont do that?

      • bardolf August 16, 2011 / 3:31 pm

        If Buffett did pony up the cash would you give his opinions an extra second of thought? Honestly, would you say well this guy is putting his money where his mouth is so maybe he has a point?

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 3:34 pm

        Of course. If Buffet were to write a $1 billion dollar check to the government, then I would say that he is serious. Absent that, it’s just a good sound bite.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:16 pm

        cluster,

        that’s the most idiotic statement ever. why don’t our politicians lead in war when they send the military to fight?

        why don’t coaches play the sport themselves?

        Once again, your analogies and examples leave much to be desired and simply show your lack of intellectual ability.

        The truth is, he simply said to raise the tax rates on people like him so that he doesn’t pay LESS than someone who works for him making 50k annually.

        If you can’t see the simplicity in his idea and the correctness of it, then you’re right, there is no compromise with your ilk.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:22 pm

        thomas,

        Those analogies are not even relevant. ANYONE can send in more money to the government at any time. Just simply write the check and mail it in, and if liberals put there money where their mouth is, then I wouldn’t consider them to be the extreme, irrational hypocrites that they are.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:30 pm

        what don’t you get?

        why do you expect people to volunteer extra money when the government hasn’t asked for it? the government needs to be able to calculate how much revenue it can expect on an annual basis.

        the ONLY way to do that is to raise the rate, so that people know how much they owe now, how much they will owe in the future. As a byproduct of PLANNING, our government can expect a certain amount of revenue.

        Gratuitous insults deleted. At some point when they are present the entire post will be deleted. //Moderator

      • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 7:56 pm

        Thomas,

        What you’re missing is the fact that Buffett is not proposing anything that would cause him to bear a burden. He’s not willing to pay his “fair share”…his deal is “I get to keep my $45 billion, but if you try to build up that much we’ll tax the heck out of you”. If he really wants us to think of him as something other than a shill for the Ruling Class, then let him put his money where his mouth is. Heck why doesn’t he write a check for $40 billion? What in heck does he really need $45 billion for? Isn’t the liberal view that after a while, you’ve made enough money?

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 5:20 pm

      tommygasbag

      is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the middle class.

      EXCEPT for
      O bama
      O bama care
      the Manchurian candidate

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:17 pm

        Just a reminder about those “isms”, including ageism.
        Posts which are nothing but insults will be removed.

        ///Moderator

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:41 pm

        tommiebags

        wow name calling and ageism……tsk tsk baaaad boy.

        funny i didnt mention his BC or lack of it including the photo shopped fake but real one.
        take a tok,e change the kneepads, and get back K?

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:48 pm

        Deleted. //Moderator

      • tiredoflibbs August 17, 2011 / 6:17 am

        I see tommyboy (aka Lebowitz) is coming unhinged again.

        Must be that nitrous he huffs after scraping crap off of peoples’ teeth all day long.

        Pathetic.

        Notice that he cannot understand a simple argument. Buffet and the libs will not part with their cash. It has been proven time and again – look at most of the obAMATEUR’s admin appointments most of them are confirmed tax cheats.

  4. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 3:23 pm

    What’s also curious is how Bush was able to achieve record federal revenues under the current tax rates, yet Obama struggles.

    Of course never let emotionally unstable children govern a nation. Our current situation is due to that dynamic.

    • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:18 pm

      Obama struggles because maybe, just maybe he inherited a horrible crashing economy that was losing 700k jobs a month.

      you wonder why he can’t raise revenue that bush did……hmm…maybe it’s because people haven’t started working yet…and after the debacle that was GOP and Bush for 8 years, it takes time to fix the mess.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:29 pm

        Robert Gibbs – is that you?

    • casper August 16, 2011 / 6:20 pm

      “What’s also curious is how Bush was able to achieve record federal revenues under the current tax rates, yet Obama struggles. ”

      He also achieved record deficits which wouldn’t have been near as bad without the tax cuts.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:26 pm

        Not even close. Bush’s last deficit was 1.2 trillion but that included TARP I which was by law, required to be paid back, which it was, which makes the last deficit under Bush about $400 billion. That pales in comparison.

        But AGAIN, I blame conservatives for this mess, because we can never expect anyone as dumb as Obama to improve this economy

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:33 pm

        magic math….courtesy of Cluster

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:43 pm

        magic logic and brains …courtesy of sasan- tommygasbag.

  5. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 3:35 pm

    You have to wonder why Obama’s extreme policies are holding the American people hostage. Democrats had control of all three branches and chose not to increase taxes last year, when by their own admission, that would have resolved the problem. Are they incompetent, stupid, or lying?

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 5:18 pm

      I think the multi millionaire Mooch and barry should lead by example and pay 2-3 million extra into the system this year.
      however it still wont even begin to pay the taxpayer funded lavish vacations these two grifting cretins have lapped up.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:19 pm

        Deleted //Moderator

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:47 pm

        Whoops
        two in a row sasan……..calling people fakes and racists is forbidden…get with it Moron.
        If you dont know about these two- 2 bit disbarred, ACORN, hustlers you must have been in a coma for 2 1/2 years.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:49 pm

        so you still haven’t any evidence of your thoughts about who I am huh?

        for all I know you could be Bachmann’s husband….

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:27 pm

        for all I know you could be Bachmann’s husband….

        I WISH!!!

    • casper August 16, 2011 / 6:25 pm

      Cluster,
      Since most of his policies came from Republicans (Romneycare, continuing wars, extended taxcuts) I glad to see you recognize them as extreme.

      • Bodie August 16, 2011 / 6:49 pm

        Yeah, that was quite an own-goal cluster scored there. He also put forth a tremendous argument against compromising with Republicans and the proven failures of their ideas.

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:49 pm

        catspuke

        glad to see your simple minded retorts suggesting someone agreed with you when that is 100% incorrect.
        more 6th grade circular arguments with the intent of a gotcha.
        PATHETIC!!

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:52 pm

        Deleted //Moderator

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:01 pm

        tommy

        over soon?
        I have wizzed on the graves of many who have thought that, maybe even yours one day…only God knows and that aint you sasan.

  6. casper August 16, 2011 / 6:15 pm

    What was most interesting to me were some of his other comments.

    “Back in the 1980s and 1990s, tax rates for the rich were far higher, and my percentage rate was in the middle of the pack. According to a theory I sometimes hear, I should have thrown a fit and refused to invest because of the elevated tax rates on capital gains and dividends.

    I didn’t refuse, nor did others. I have worked with investors for 60 years and I have yet to see anyone — not even when capital gains rates were 39.9 percent in 1976-77 — shy away from a sensible investment because of the tax rate on the potential gain. People invest to make money, and potential taxes have never scared them off. And to those who argue that higher rates hurt job creation, I would note that a net of nearly 40 million jobs were added between 1980 and 2000. You know what’s happened since then: lower tax rates and far lower job creation.”

    Kind of blows one of your talking points.

    • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:27 pm

      How many jobs has Buffett created?

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:31 pm

        is that a serious question? how many employees does Berkshire Hathaway have?

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:38 pm

        That’s my question thomas. Care to answer?

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:41 pm

        they have about 260k employees. They are a holding company.

        what’s the point of your question? and why couldn’t you just google it in 1 minutes or less?

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:42 pm

        Link?

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:03 pm

        I don’t see where it says 260,000 employees

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 7:58 pm

      Casper,

      Except for the fact that the big burst of job creation came after two events – Reagan’s across the board reduction in tax rates and the GOP Congress’ reduction of the capital gains tax. Without those two events, we would have bee mired in Japan-style economic morass this past 30 years.

      • casper August 16, 2011 / 10:41 pm

        Really? Prove it. You are just repeating talking points.

    • Luckee August 17, 2011 / 7:05 pm

      Casper, I inherited about $300,000 in stock from my grandfather. It had been a good growth portfolio for many years but was stagnant and not growing any more. I was advised to sit on it because the high capital gains taxes of the time would eat up too much of the value. It was almost all appreciation. When capital gains taxes went down under Reagan I sold the stock and invested it in other stocks. I know for a fact that some people will sit on gains instead of turning them over if they feel the tax burden on the sale is too high.

      I do not think the opinion of one very biased man does anything to blow a talking point. I think all it does is present the opinion of one very biased man who has made his billions.

  7. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:41 pm

    You’re dangerous and I can’t wait to sweep your ideology in the dustbin of history. – thomas

    And yet you expect conservatives to compromise with that? I am loving this new tone if civility from the left. Very heartwarming.

    • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:43 pm

      this coming from the guy who on a previous thread said he doesn’t want to compromise at all and that everyone should do things his way.

      yeh, can’t take the heat sport, get out of the kitchen.

      or better yet, cry me a river.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:52 pm

        thomas, is that how you motivate your employees and win over clients? By chastizing them? Do you think you actually gain traction doing that?

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:53 pm

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        BRING A GUN TO A KNIFE FIGHT

        HURT YOUR ENEMIES

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        From Rock Star to Rock Bottom
        By Kevin Jackson

        Obama has put away the golf clubs, given up the Kobe steaks, and suspended his membership in the “Vacation-a-Month” club — and now he’s hit the road. Sleeves rolled up to mimic “the ordinary working man,” Obama tours the Midwest — on a bus — to showcase his new look, replacing Blue Steel (head left, chin askew and up) with Magnum (head tilted…slight right).

        As the bus indicates, Obama has returned to being “an ordinary American” with sensible right-leaning values. The bus was chosen to remind Midwesterner moderates, liberals, and racists why they elected him. Obama’s election was symbolic — historic, in fact. The bus says about Obama: “Remember me? I’m the former nobody black guy with the funny name.”

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/from_rock_star_to_rock_bottom.html

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:55 pm

        i could care less if I gain traction with you. who cares???? not me.

        and for the record, I don’t do that with anyone in my professional life, only with after work targets like you.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:04 pm

        Now now, thomas, you’re becoming more unhinged by the minute.. Gun analogies? Is that responsible rhetoric

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 7:16 pm

        can’t be worse than Palin’s map can it?

      • Luckee August 17, 2011 / 7:11 pm

        I do not think compromising with someone who represents something you believe is harmful to the country is a good thing or anything to demand or promote. The reason people belong to different parties is because they have different ideas of how to run the country. One side believes we should follow the constitution and one side does not think it should be binding. If you believe in following the constitution why should you compromise on something that goes against your principles and what you believe in? If you didn’t care about the constitution you would be on the other side. It is not so complicated and it is not personal.

        Did your side compromise on anything?

        Why do you make this all so personal and angry? Do you ever say anything without an insult in it?

  8. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:51 pm

    I wonder if thomas and casper take into consideration Steve Wynn’s take on the economy. Or simply consider him a partisan hack

    • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:54 pm

      well, steve wynn isn’t the most successful investor in this nation’s history. Steve wynn is in the gambling business, but even he wouldn’t walk away from a good deal just because the taxes on his profits were a little higher than they are now.

      again, nice dodge. Because you can’t argue against Buffet, you bring up a second rate casino owner who doesn’t even have 5% of buffet’s wealth.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:05 pm

        …but even he wouldn’t walk away from a good deal just because the taxes on his profits were a little higher than they are now. – thomas

        How do you know that?

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 7:15 pm

        because a rich guy like Buffet says so, and so do many other people.

      • Luckee August 17, 2011 / 7:17 pm

        So you judge people by how much money they have, Thomas?
        And if Steve Wynn is a second rate casino owner will you tell us who is a first rate casino owner? What makes him second rate?

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:55 pm

      Cluster

      partisan hacks calling people partisan hacks………ROTFLM*O

  9. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 6:54 pm

    I wonder why thomas gets so angry. Anyone care to opine about that? I mean it’s simply a difference in governing philosophy, so it’s weird that that unhinges liberals so much.

    • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:56 pm

      how many jobs has Buffet created cluster? care to answer it now that I have given you information to be able to?

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:09 pm

        I don;t see anywhere in your link that there are 260,000 employees.

      • Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:13 pm

        Just found it

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 7:14 pm

        well look harder sport. it’s there.

        ill even give you a hint in case those eyes of your’s need help. it’s on there right side of the page, in the Summary box for Berkshire Hathaway.

        you know, the box where all the revenues and profits and relevant important data about the company are.

        try again. how many jobs has he created???

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 6:56 pm

      Cluster

      seems to be an Iranian thing.
      sasan/tommy spring ??

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 6:58 pm

        Deleted //Moderator

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:07 pm

        white as a ghost?
        an im the “poor old man” ???
        LOL

        sasan is dat you???

      • Caveat Emptor, Legal Sockpuppet (but not a real lawyer outside of PlayLand); SoB, DDT, FDIC, EIEI-O, SPQR, AFL-CIA, AT&T (Deceased) August 16, 2011 / 7:26 pm

        German? HA! In what part of “Persia” will we find Germany?

        We’ve all seen your picture Sasan, your eyebrows could be declared a Nation Forest, but since you shaved the middle at least you have two now.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 7:35 pm

        hilarious! you have any evidence of this?

        we all know you don’t, you just post bs and hope it sticks. I have a feeling you’re a tinfoil connoisseur like Neo.

      • Caveat Emptor, Legal Sockpuppet (but not a real lawyer outside of PlayLand); SoB, DDT, FDIC, EIEI-O, SPQR, AFL-CIA, AT&T (Deceased) August 16, 2011 / 7:49 pm

        So, were you lying whan you wrote: “I have worked as an Electrical Engineer for 3.5 years now and have experience in the design and manufacturing of Semi-Submersible offshore platforms, FPSO’s, and Land Platforms as well.” or are you lying now?

        Your Honor, I submit that the witless is being delibertly Iranian.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 8:57 pm

        who ever said I said that? on this blog? where are you getting your delusions from? come on, out with it tinfoil.

      • Caveat Emptor, Legal Sockpuppet (but not a real lawyer outside of PlayLand); SoB, DDT, FDIC, EIEI-O, SPQR, AFL-CIA, AT&T (Deceased) August 17, 2011 / 10:37 am

        چه احمقی

  10. Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 7:01 pm

    Hmmm just going through mr buffetts political contributions. Seems only 7% of them have been to GOP folks. Although I would hardly call snarlin arlin or chris shays conservatives. Hell i would not call Bob Dole a conservative either.

    Could it be that this is why mr buffett wants taxes raised or could mr buffett be considered on of the biggest crony capatalists of all times?

  11. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:08 pm

    Don’t ya think that the federal government could use $1 billion right now? At least to partially make up for the $800 billion Obama pissed away? And yet that wouldn’t even scratch the surface of Buffet’s wealth, but he still wont send it in. I just don’t understand why.

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:13 pm

      cluster

      why dont barry and the Mooch send in 4 or 5 million they scammed for ayers books about the doper and his gigolo father he lied about writing ?

  12. Cluster August 16, 2011 / 7:18 pm

    Thomas, what is that scares you so much about a different political philosophy from your own, that makes you feel the need to lash out?

  13. Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 7:24 pm

    LOLzer. There is a big difference between Wynn and buffett. Wynn is not calling for higher taxes.

    • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:30 pm

    • Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 7:30 pm

      LOLzer I forgot. Since Wynn is not calling for higher taxes, he must be a ebil wasist, homofoebik, sekist, wetooglican. Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:33 pm

        Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!

        I think barry and larry did, among thangs…..

      • Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 7:41 pm

        beer bong. You forgot the beer bong. d’oh !!!

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 7:42 pm

        green,

        will you be affected by Buffet and his buddies paying more in taxes?

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:45 pm

        did I hear KEG stand???

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 7:47 pm

        tommie/stang

        we would be affected if the 48% of the looting public (read donks) were to pay their fair share.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 7:50 pm

        Sorry Neo, That does not qualify as twisting yourself into a pretzel. 🙂

        OTOH I have finally found a graphic of the all the liberties Thomas will let us keep.

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 8:01 pm

        GMB

        is that before or after the left takes over and Murders 25,000,000 of us per Obomanation’s bestis bud ayers?

      • Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 8:04 pm

        Thats before. You do’t want to see the after.

      • neocon1 August 16, 2011 / 8:07 pm

        im a cling in to ma bible and ma guuun

  14. watsonredux August 16, 2011 / 11:20 pm

    I think it’s a great idea that we all put our money where our mouths are. Since we’re all on a crusade to voluntary reduce the federal debt, I think the entire blogsforvictory community should do their part, too. All you retired folks should simply give up Medicare. Just don’t sign up for it and don’t use it anymore. Don’t worry, once the free market sees that you’re available, those generous insurance companies will be falling all over themselves to offer you affordable health care no matter how old or unhealthy you are. I’m sure you will all want to do you part. Besides, it must be galling to be socialists and moochers.

    And if you’re too young for Medicare, then by all means urge your mothers and grandmothers to quit looting the rest of us. Let ’em take care of their own medical bills, for crying out loud.

    So come on! Cancel your Medicare today!

    • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 6:33 am

      waspsting

      when the innercity hordes give up ALL welfare,food stamps, housing allowances, etc that was paid for by OPM.
      When the 48% who pay NO federal taxes, and the 53% who pay LESS than 3% of all taxes paid contribute 28% of their income into the govt.

      Then and only then can we discuss medicare that we PAID for over a 50 year lifetime of work with money taken at the point of a government gun.

      NEXT?

      • watsonredux August 17, 2011 / 12:16 pm

        I knew I could count on you, NeoClown. You’re the one who comically claims to have been “forced” onto Medicare. Looter.

  15. doug August 17, 2011 / 12:42 am

    Warren Buffet is acting like an SOB rich guy. His solution to being the most richest, powerful person on the face of the earth is pretty simply…tax everyone else who haven’t made it that far more so that they never can compete with him. Consolidating his wealth, it’s a classic sun-tzu strategy.

    On top of that, he has already calculated that he can take a $10 million a year hit in taxes as long as the government keeps pouring money into areas that he wants them to spend it so that his income will go up even more.

    As for the $1 billion, I do cut Buffet some slack, he just gave over $1 billion to the Gates Foundation….true, it was not the Federal government. However, that is how it should be, you see, it is working well.

    Buffet, the idiot, complains that the government can’t add a billion dollars to fund health and education, yet, because the government allowed him to make billions, he was able to be a philanthropist and give it to a foundation that deals with health and education.

    He complains that his tax rate is so low because he makes money off his investments. Well, other people are making money off his investment as well. His company makes tons of taxable income before they give it out in dividends.

    What Buffet fails to tell everyone is that his 17% is actually the SECOND time that income was taxed, the first time it was at a far greater percentage.

    • Luckee August 17, 2011 / 1:07 pm

      Great points, Doug. Buffet is complaining that he is not forced to pay enough in taxes, what does he want that tax revenue to pay for? Does he think the government will do a better job with the money than the private sector?

      He can pay his taxes and then put his other money, the money he wishes the government also took, where he thinks it will do the most good. Why should he complain about that?

      It is really what this country is all about. It is looking at things that need to be done but are not designated as duties of the federal government and then getting them done either by the state or, in the case of the Gates Foundation, by the people.

      He could decide he wants his billion dollars to pay for unemployment benefits, or welfare for unwed mothers, or camp for underprivileged inner city children, or food for the hungry, or anything he seems to think the government ought to be doing. He likes having the privilege of deciding how his money will be spent but he wants to take it away from the rest of us by saying we have to have the government make our choices for us.

  16. bagni August 17, 2011 / 12:57 pm

    marktax:
    surprised to see you have a ‘moderator’ in the room now?
    what is up with that?
    you mad at markneo or something?
    what we he do now that he has to tone it down and not insult everyone?
    ::))

    • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 4:56 pm

      nanu nanu dork from ork
      seems only the forkers have been moderated and deleted,
      I, as always am a gooood boy! 😦

      • Green Mountain Boy (KOOK)1st Class w/obama ear clusters in silver(p) August 17, 2011 / 8:25 pm

        What a load of crock!! Thought I wouldn’t see it huh??? Stop believing your own press releases. Jarhead 😛

      • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 9:46 pm

        #@^%$&^*#@ it

    • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 9:49 pm

      nanu nanu dork from ork

      what we he do now
      that he has to tone it down and not insult everyone?.….HUH???
      seems you do my work for me dork.
      Thanks

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 17, 2011 / 10:20 pm

      bagni,

      Someone has to keep us under control.

      • theshadowiswatching August 17, 2011 / 11:30 pm

        I was the enforcer on my hockey team and I guess old habits die hard. Mark works plenty hard putting up those great thread ideas, so the least I can do is try to keep things down to a dull roar in the response department.

      • neocon1 August 18, 2011 / 6:58 am

        ama played hocky?

        WOW
        Check………..

  17. bagni August 17, 2011 / 11:51 pm

    marklove:
    i don’t know what you did or how you threatened the neo-boi
    but good job on the moderated muzzle on him
    congrats
    now lets see if he’s in it for the long haul
    as always
    love and kisses!!!!

    • neocon1 August 18, 2011 / 6:57 am

      nanu nanu

      funny you obsess over me,
      yet you totally ignore the litany of trolls, the forkers, tommyturban, scummy, etc who hurl ageist, racist, hate filled profanity daily here.
      why is that dork from ork?

      PS
      this is a conservative site.
      If you want conversation, respect, dialog, leave the BS leftist talking points, insults etc at the huff post and the K0.
      dont like yur own medicine?
      dont disperse it.
      Capice? dork?

    • neocon1 August 18, 2011 / 7:26 am

      nanu nanu

      what you did or how you threatened the neo-boi

      They *ASKED*, Moron.:)

  18. bagni August 19, 2011 / 8:56 am

    markneo
    i don’t obsess over you
    it’s just that of all the right, left and inbetween forums i visit
    you have always taken the prize for mindless insults
    yes…you can accuse some of the lefties that visit mark’s site of being ugly
    but my non friend you can’t accuse me of such
    i’ve always been civil here and markalicious will vouch for that
    so it’s no surprise you accuse me of dispersing this nasty medicine you’re so good at!
    glad they asked you to tone it down
    should be a good exercise for you
    meaning you can still be just as insulting you’ll just have to be more creatively civil about it
    ::))

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