By playing up to those moderate, middle-of-the-road, “mom and apple pie” folks at….Planned Parenthood – From Life News:
The chair of the national Democratic party headlined a small rally in Florida yesterday for Planned Parenthood, in what is the latest event having Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz working with the abortion business.
Wasserman Schultz was named by pro-abortion President Barack Obama recently to take over as the head of the Democratic Party nationally and prepare for his re-election campaign next year. At the time of her appointment to the position, Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards praised Wasserman Schultz as a “heroine” for her extensive abortion advocacy. The appointment made it clear Obama would not run from his lengthy pro-abortion record…
Yeah, that is what the people of America want – abortion on demand. And, hey, if you can get it funded via ObamaCare in the by and by, so much the better. When Americans get up in the morning, they aren’t worried about their jobs or the future for their children…the only concern they have is whether or not Planned Parenthood stays on the public teat, sucking up money for butchering children. That is the way in to America’s heartland…be closely identified with Planned Parenthood.
These people are starting to make this too easy…
You do understand that most people don’t share your slobbering, irrational hatred of Planned Parenthood, don’t you, Mark?
And who knows more about slobbering irrational hatred than Bodie?
Well, he has the slobbering thing down anyway.
Awwww, I’ve got my own Mini-Me.
nobody but you could be that stupid buy you.
so dont flatter your self
“nobody but you could be that stupid buy you.”
What a gem of a sentence. The English language is a cruel mistress, eh, Neocon Haggard?
Where do you expect lower income women with no health insurance to go for mamograms, pap smears and other treatments needed with Planned Parenthood gone? Do they just not deserve to have any health treatment? No taxpayers funds are used for abortions by Planned Parenthood. What part of that do you not seem to understand? Seriously, why do Republicans want to control womens health and family planning? You hate for women to have access to birth control and the ability to plan when they can afford another child. What is your solution Mark? I believe that the vast majority of Americans do want lower income women to have decent health care – and do not have the problem of some government support for such a program as the far right Republicans. It certainly costs less to catch breast cancer or cervical cancer before it becomes a stage 4 than to deny treatment to these women. How many children will be left without a mother if these women do not receive adequate health care? This constant rant about abortion is getting so old. That is not all Planned Parenthood provides to these women – in fact it is a small portion of services provided by PP.
no PP clinic provides mamograms…they refer out to other medical facilities…most of thier non-abortion related business is farmed out as a matter of fact…
the truth is…they abuse the federal system…to get tax dollars…to offset thier expenses…so they can spend more on abortion related activity…
in effect…they lie about what they do so they can take tax dollars to improve thier abortion agenda/facilities/propoganda etc….
You are so wrong. Just because you write a bunch of garbage does not make it factual. What a liar!
And learn to spell “their” correctly. Not that hard of a word to spell doofus.
you paying lip service to lies does not mean i am wrong..it only means you have no clue…
this has been demonstrated very well..PP does not do mammograms…anywhere in the country…sunnystooge…stop with the stooge dropping…if you are ignorant about the topic…you should shut your stinkin hole…cuz when you open it…we all see how much of a bimbo you are
total trash BS
but you love murdering babies in the womb so what is a lie?
no big deal.
Some folks just don’t like thier own tactics turned against them. Yes Mark, by all means clean this mess up. You could start by assigning a code to every Isp that posts here and publish this code along with the comment. That would show who is socking who without giving out info that could be used to attack someone.
You don’t get it. Don’t you notice that conservatives on this blog attack people they don’t agree with constantly? have you not noticed the false and hilarious accusations thrown at me and others just because people THINK they know…when they really don’t.
Mark has been very lax with these outlaws. Most of them I think are posting under guest names anway.
why do you always drivel when you shift into mental midget mode thomastooge…
js – exhibit A
thank you for proving my point and partaking in my epxperiment.
leave my man ALONE! he is MINE and MINE only!
ssz0102 is correct when mza330 says that Sasan’s posting under different thomas names should be banned.
uh oh! there is the conspiracy monkey again! now we all know who this person is! they are posting under about 5 different names. didn’t someone wonder the other day what happened to Amazona……..she hasn’t left, she is still here…but under 5 different names!
and the best part….STILL NO EVIDENCE!
sorry neo…you gotta wait till he finds his way outta his BEEEHIND…its sorta stuck and face it…you can sodomize a man whose sodomizing himself…its a true paradox it is
another dropping from the stooge hole eh…its getting old…
neocon1 August 25, 2011 at 11:45 am #
leave my man ALONE! he is MINE and MINE only!
Love and hope and sex and dreams
Are still surviving on the street
Look at me, I’m in tatters!
I’m a shattered
Friends are so alarming
My lover’s never charming
Life’s just a cocktail party on the street
People dressed in plastic bags
Some kind of fashion
Laughter, joy, and loneliness and sex and sex and sex and sex
Look at me, I’m in tatters
I’m a shattered
Shattered credit to Rolling Stones)
a picture of life in america today
thank you Mr. 1824. I am sure you can step right back in your time machine and go back to that glorious time in our history as a species.
do you ever have anything to say that actually USES INTELLIGENCE stooge…seems like all you have for us is STOOGE DROPPING…whatta we expect…thomastooge…you dont know better…you have a reprobate mind…like you are stuck on stupid and cant get out….
correct me here js, but aren’t you solely against abortion because it’s against your religion?
you’re a sick mind. people who want to impose their views on others are sick and deluded.
you claim you want more freedom from the oppression of the horrible federal government, but then you ADVOCATE that same federal government IMPOSE your views on others who have different beliefs than you do and who may even disagree with you completely.
You’re a danger to society and I for one am happy that you are a minority on this issue.
have a good day stooge.
i will correct you…nothing that comes out of your…well…that disgusting orofice you have your head shoved up…is a valid talking point…it is assumed to be stooge droppings…for no other reason than a civil description of you…well..droppings here…
do you understand the words that are comming out of my keyboard stooge? GOOD..now go home and change you drawers boy…you need potty training
why do you always drivel when you shift into mental midget mode thomastooge…
the truth sucks doesn’t it js?
you’re for smaller government….except when it comes to abortion…where you want to impose your views on others whether they like it or not!
forget that this is America, and that the abortion issue was decided by the SC a long time ago, nope, this is the christian states of Js.
“you’re for smaller government….except when it comes to abortion…”
Yes, drone. That is why abortion should be a states’ issue and not that of the federal government as was done to make it a “right”.
You really need to think before you regurgitate your dumbed down talking points.
abortion is not a right in itself. the right to HAVE an abortion under our nations privacy laws is what the court ruled on. Obviously that little fact escaped you.
Not surprising, but still mildly funny.
wow, tommy-boy you have reiterated what I said without knowing so!!!
Since abortion is not a right stated in the Constitution. It is an issue that is remanded to the states! As per the 10th amendment – a fact that escapes you.
But that was predictable and typical for drones such as yourself. You also fail to realize that Democrats and feminists believe abortion to be a right – another fact you escape to notice.
yes, tiredoffacts, you know more than the Supreme court.
what legal credentials do you have again? I think you forgot to tell us at the outset.
“abortion is not a right in itself. the right to HAVE an abortion under our nations privacy laws is what the court ruled on. ”
“what legal credentials do you have again? I think you forgot to tell us at the outset.”
Are you seriously saying the Supreme Court ruled that the right to have an abortion is drawn from the “nations (sic) privacy laws”?
If so you’re seriously ignorant of Roe v. Wade, and seriously ignorant regarding our nation’s privacy laws.
tommy-boy flails and then fails:
‘yes, tiredoffacts, you know more than the Supreme court.
what legal credentials do you have again? I think you forgot to tell us at the outset.
What is your point? You have none.
The Supreme Court once upheld slavery and declared blacks in bondage property.
No need for a law degree there.
Game over, thanks for playing.
nobody cares about stooges with small brains…like thomastooge here…he creates lies and bases lies upon them…and assumes them when he incorporates them into even more lies…
so the only thing you really need to pay attention to…is the posts that dont have his drivel all over them…he is a troll
Where do you expect lower income women with no health insurance to go for mamograms, pap smears and other treatments needed with Planned Parenthood gone? – Sunny
Where I reside, there are numerous county health clinics with these services available.
…have you not noticed the false and hilarious accusations thrown at me and others just because people THINK they know…when they really don’t. – Thomas
I think Thomas is right, afterall he has never been guilty of what he accuses others of, right? Oh wait…..
I stand corrected:
correct me here js, but aren’t you solely against abortion because it’s against your religion? you’re a sick mind. people who want to impose their views on others are sick and deluded. – thomas
cluster teh ignorant,
so what happens with women who live to far away from a county clinic?
so let me get this straight, you’re FOR limiting the choices poor and minorities have when using clinics?
and then you wonder why your party doesn’t have any minority support.
Also where I reside, there are bus vouchers where lower income people can have free transportation.
But thank you again for the false and hilarious accusation leveled at me, something of which you never do, right?
so I pose a question, and it’s an insult. conservative kooks make up 10 different handles and harass people, and they are considered respectful.
pigs are flying around this blog. watch out.
Cluster, so you give someone public transport access…you expect them to do what exactly?
If the cost of minority support is 55 million dead babies then you can keep them.
no you narrow minded kook.
the cost of minority support is actually to SUPPORt minorities. to support giving them a decent wage, decent healthcare, educate their children in decent schools, provide decent pathways to success and give them ample opportunity for social mobility.
only a fool would ignore that only THREE percent of the things planned parenthood does is abortion. they serve millions of people, and provide cheap, important medical care.
but alas, you ignore all that and relish the fact that you’re rigid and closed minded.
the middle ages must be wonderful.
more stooge droppings…more lies…thomastooge isnt even a useful idiot…its like…stepping in dog shxt…
“The fact is not one Planned Parenthood in America performs mammograms. All Planned Parenthoods do are refer for mammograms,” she said. “So while Richards was technically correct to add the word ‘access’ before citing mammograms as a service Planned Parenthood provides, I guarantee no one understood her to say anything other than Planned Parenthood performs mammograms, when actually all Planned Parenthood does is merely write down the name of a place to go for mammograms.”
“Give” them a decent wage or give them the chance to earn a decent wage? How wide do those pathways have to be? Is there something about minorities that means they need extra help and bigger pathways to accomplish what non-minorities do? What is it about minorities that makes them less capable so then need more help?
Planned Parenthood was established and supported by liberals specifically to eliminate minorities or at least to keep their numbers down. If you were not so rigid and close minded you would take the time to learn the history of Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger and how what she really wanted was a white country with minority babies killed or prevented. And she did not do it in the middle ages. You really are stupid aren’t you?
In Illionois yesterday, up in koch county, a young lady was on trial for wire tapping. She taped a conversation between herself and two detectives who were trying to talk her out of pressing charges on someone with connections. Thankfully she was found not guilty of this charge by jury nullification.
I want peoples opinion on something now. Had this young lady been convicted should her lawyers have appealed this all way up to the Supreme Court of the United States or not? Second question. Under what admendment to the constitution should an appeal be based?
In my opinion, an appeal wouldn’t be based on Constitutional grounds as that would have been argued in the original trial. An appeal would be based, in all likelihood on a reversible error by the lower court.
Unless the defendant is convicted we couldn’t know what the Court may have used as its logic to convict, so it’s hard to speculate on what grounds an appeal would be made.
But, to your original point, I would apply the 5th Amendment as an argument in the lower court; due process.
The police, acting as agents of the government had harmed the individual by requiring her under the cover of authority to become party to the original crime or tort in refusing to act or assist in action.
But, I’m just a pretend lawyer and cannot give legal advice or opinion.
Thank You Caveat. The 5th amendment. Due process under law. Now the next question would be, Would you comfortable with every state of the union having thier own version of the 5th amendmnet? Could this not be argued as a states rights issue? Or would this be a basic infringement of liberty?
First, the US Constitution guarantees against sell-incrimination in the 5th Amendment; Due Process is also a guarantee in the US Constitution that dates back to the Magna Carta so the states would only reinforce these concepts, in that respect it would be redundant.
I don’t see a States’ rights issue here as the US and the individual States aren’t at cross-purposes; there is no desire of either to invalidate due process any more than the other. In other words, the state (governments local, state or federal) has an interest in protecting individuals as well as an interest in compelling individuals to acquiesce as much freedom to the state as the state feels it needs to fulfill its function; in theory no arm of the state is more or less compelled than any other arm of the state.
A codicil of that is if the federal government has an interest which is at odds with the state or locality, in these instances the US Constitution becomes the authority and would in all cases anyway.
So this would be a federal issue then. A liberty issue that would apply to all the states?
I believe that many States have the “two-person consent” requirement for recording conversations. I would hold that secretly recording any authority in the process of committing a crime or what you believe to be a crime is the kind of exception the courts would agree with.
Now, if it is a Federal Agent, the recorder needs to be damn sure no lie or obfuscation takes place as this would be a crime by itself. The Federal Government would have a different interest in this case from the State’s interest. It would be prosecuted in Federal Court and the Constitutional argument would apply, IMO.
Caveat, you are on the witness stand. You are only to testify regarding this case.
Is this case a federal issue regarding liberty or not?
I voluntarily offered my uninformed opinion, and now I’m compelled to give legal opinion?
Can’t do it.
But, Illinois is a two-person consent state; therefore charging the defendant was the correct and lawful thing to do. Since the Federal Government has no compelling interest in this case as the agents, by your description were agents of the State of Illinois, I see no “iberty issue from a federal standpoint.
Thats all i wanted. You have decided that the stae can controll what is or what is not a issue of liberty.
The 5th amendmend would not apply.
I don’t see a “liberty issue” in this context because the word “liberty” defies a clear legal definition.
Related to the Constitution, Liberty and Freedom are interchangeable; so certain liberties or certain freedoms are guaranteed while other liberties or freedoms are curtailed. I am at liberty to live and work where I please but I don’t have the freedom to prevent you from doing the same. I have the freedom to worship at the church of my choice, but I don’t have the liberty to use human sacrifice in that practice. See?
The “State” can decide what is and what isn’t legal or lawful.
In any case, the due process part of the 5th Amendment would apply were I to defend this case in State or Federal Court. But, since I’m not a real lawyer, nor do I pretend to be a real lawyer I wouldn’t be in a position to defend or appeal this case.
It doesnt matter much anymore. The point I was driving has been made by somebody else.
If you are comfortable with 50 different laws on who gets to live or die you should be comfortable with 50 different laws on your liberty or 50 different laws on your ability to pusue happiness.
Using the morals of the time and people involved in the constitutional process please show me a reason that the founding fathers thought this would ever be an issue.
10th Amendment was sponsered by Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, Thomas Jefferson among others.
Drawn from the Articles of confederation which read, “Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.”
I means the states and the people, with some small exceptions, were free to continue exercising their sovereign powers.
Life, Liberty, and the pusuit of happiness.
Direct from our founding document.
Please show me any writings by our founding fathers that they ever considered life a states right to be dealt with by the 10th amendment.
I know you’re aware that “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” is from the Declaration of Independence which sets the reasons for separation and is predicated on inalienable rights in the Magna Carta and not the Constitution.
If you are asking if the founders approved of the individual states making independent decisions over life and death than you’re asking to prove a negative; if the founders had felt that “life” was within the purview of the Federal Government they would have stated so and put that in the Constitution.
Madison appealed to add the 10th amendment arguing that the Constitution is a contract that states the restrictions the people have put on the (federal) government and any other decisions/laws/rights and restrictions were up to the people.
Further, the construct of the federal government was predicated on states’ governments making states’ laws and imposing states’ punishments, which include capital punishment.
The Eighth Amendment sets restrictions on “cruel and unusual punishment” regarding the severity with which the inferior governments could apply capital and corporal punishments. The Eight amendment doesn’t designate what would constitute a crime punishable by death, nor does it restrict the states from imposing a death penelty, it states that when applied it must not exceed this standard.
I will say Caveat that you are playing the game extremely well. Your defense is masterful but not complete.
Ask yourself this. If at the time of the writing of the constitution had our founders thought that someday the supreme court they had created would find a right to murder babies would they have not included something about it?
Use the morals of the day if you will. Was abortion a procedure that would be used in the days of founders for birth control.
If you have no right to life, you have no rights at all.
Caveat, it does not matter. Really. You have just taken away a inalienable right granted by the creator and given it to the several states. You have place man above the creator no matter which way you choose to phrase it.
I’m not sure why you think my answere are a “game” but, Okay, we’ll take the last question first; (w)as abortion a procedure that would be used in the days of founders for birth control. Answer, yes. Was it a lawful practice? That depends on the jurisdiction, which is the point of my treatise; the Constitution through the 10th Amendment would, by lack of language otherwise would leave the decision of abortion to the people; the states. Since the Constitution neither allows nor prohibits abortion it is up to the states to decide the issue.
Which is why Roe v. Wade is such bad legislation by fiat; the Justices had to twist themselves in knots to find a privacy clause that doesn’t exist in the Constitution (a penumbra) so that they could claim federal authority over the issue and preclude the states from making laws in defiance of federal dictate.
You have just taken away a inalienable right granted by the creator and given it to the several states.
I would assume the will of the people (the states) would be reasonable. Here I can only quote Jefferson; “All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
How can a right that is endowed by the creator, Life, be left to the states?
That still places man over the creator.
Either the state gives you the right to live or the creator does. Which is it?
Our founding document. Our declaration of independence, gives us 3 rights. Three rights that are endowed by our creator. Life, liberty, and the pusuit of happiness.
Life was the first right mentioned. Could it because if you did not have the right to life you have no rights at all?
Either the state has the right to decide who lives and dies or the creator does.
Which one, in your opinion, is it?
A very valid, if somewhat Hobson’s Choice.
The Declaration of Independence only enumerates only three of many inalienable rights; it states “they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” “Among these are” indicates it is not intended as all inclusive. But, do read on, “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” Did you get that part? “instituted among men.”
The Founders had many discussions regarding the religiosity of the government, and here I’m not speaking of separation of church and state, I’m speaking of the interpretation of the churches’ laws and the establishment of the government’s laws. At odds was the idea of crime and punishment and to who’s interpretation of a crime should the law look. Punishment in one community for a crime against the community could be vastly different from another based on the tenants of the church dominant in that community; would I be held to a Quaker’s definition of stealing or Episcopalian. And what of the punishment if my church forgives such crimes and yours doesn’t.
Knowing each couldn’t impose their church’s morality on others and accepting that other churches morality was basically sound and not that dissimilar from their own, the founders had to decide, as they did in the basic righteousness of the People as a whole and their ability to, by majority come to a moral, ethical and reasonable decision. They believed that “Americans” were a religious people and would hold themselves to a religious standard.
It was always the intention of the Founders that the will of the people would be used in accordance with God’s will. Sometimes that’s the risk you have to take, otherwise the government isn’t instituted among men; it’s prescribed by doctrine of the minority.
Trust in the basic goodness of your neighbors and they will surprise you with their compassion.
Masterful. Yes. You skills at debating leave me at loss on why you participate in hells leading newspaper. You are wasting yourself. But that is all off point.
You are evading the question. The qustion is very simple. The words “The creator” do not apply anymore to the catholic church than it does to the church of lucifers kitchen cabinets.
Denomination does not matter nor does christianty, judiasm, or any other different religion.
Life is a right that comes from the creator, according to declaration of Independence.
So in your opinion, who gets to decide who lives and dies? The creator or the state?
What he said…. 🙂
Ok, full disclosure; this is a sock-puppet! I was developed to ridicule the trolls from “hell.” Interesting though, we are able to discuss and debate without intrusion from the trolls and other hate-mongers and actually speak to one another.
Back to the subject; my personal beliefs are that abortion is murder. But, the state does have, by the consent of the governed, the ability, the duty and the responsibility to decide who lives and who dies. Capital punishment, abortion and sending young men and women off to war was never God’s intention as I understand His purpose for us.
The state is likewise entrusted to make decisions regarding “acceptable losses of human life” in times of crises and disaster. Would God find that calculation acceptable? I doubt it, but that’s the cost of living in a society.
My “opinion” has nothing to do with these facts as I’ve stated them. Who decides is a fact; God in His time, the state in its time. Who should? Would that I could live in a world where only God has to decide.
So your personal opinion is that the state gets to decide who lives and who dies. Is this correct?
It’s not an opinion; it’s a fact.
Where does it end? Is there any limit on this power? This will be my last question. It was enjoyable while it lasted.
Consent of the governed; if we elect them to govern as secularists we get what we deserve.
Thanks for the discussion.
Caveat, you are more than welcome. You should come around more.
Let me rephrase that. If the price of minority support is 55 million dead babies and an endless supply of government cheese and government racial quotas for everthing then you can keep them.
if you think giving people a good government who can help out when needed and take care of the less fortunate in our society..which most times end up being minorities…then yes. much better.
at least you own up to your beliefes. but then don’t wonder why you don’t get hispanic, black, or other minority support.
actually…the failure of the black, hispanic and minority vote to swing to the conservative party is caused by lies and misinformation spread by socialists with marxists ideologies…those whose goals are in contrast with the united states constitution…
taking the life of an unborn human child…is not allowed under our constitution…as a matter of fact…the founding documents clearly state…that life itself is an unalienable right…so dont feed us your bullshyt lies about civil rights…your ignorance does not change the truth…
there is NO right to kill your child…confusing minority populations with the distinction of reproductive rights is nothing but a lie…everyone has the right to chose to have a child…but once you have that child…you have created a life…and that life deserves the protection f our government…something which it has failed to act upon…a decision made by activist judges using lies and misrepresentation by liberal activists who intentionally committed fraud on our courts…
Give a man a fish feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish feed for a life time. Donks keep taking my fish away to feed those to lazy to go fishing.
Ho hum. Thats good government for. Vote buyers and tax farmers. You are welcom to em. Just don’t be surprised when the day comes that rest of us refuse to let our fishies be taken away.
He’s just angry because he believes that “miniorities” can’t succeed without assistance.
That’s why he pretends to be German; he’s ashamed of being Iranian.
let me guess….either luv2hatelibs, amazona, or maybe count of can’t. so which one are you?
hell you could even be all three rolled in one!
still no evidence? hmm…
but the problem is you don’t teach them how to fish, and you won’t give them a fish! thats why minorities by and large don’t vote for the GOP!
when is the last time the GOP wanted to increase the minimum wage? or extend unemployment insurance? or extend medicare to all? or increase funding for inner city schools? I could go on and on.
Lack of government services doesn’t mean you’re teaching people how to fish Green, it simply means you’re to lazy, dishonest, or ambivalent to teach them how to fish.
you’re to individualistic. and believe me, someone will always take your fish because you are voting them in office every election!
you got hit too many times with the stupid stick thomastooge…every time your trap opens…we can tell
And it appears, Thomas, that all you do is complain about what others think and say, rarely, if ever, offering any original ideas or anything of substance. I think most of the comments you refer to are simply spoofs of liberals who pollute this blog. Actually, I think it’s rather humorous.
ah yes, deflection…the time tested strategy.
now, the quasi conservative posters with different handles are actually paid liberal agents who post to disrupt the brilliant debate on this “blog”.
you want my ideas….fire away, i’d be glad to provide them to you.
you want my ideas….fire away, i’d be glad to provide them to you.
Don’t hold your breath, Leonard. We’ve been trying to get GT Graduate/mza330/sz0102/Thomas Gruenenberg/ThomasG/Thomas 0102 to spell out what his core beliefs are for several years. He’s so caught up in demonizing and ridiculing everyone else’s beliefs that I’m not sure he even knows what he believes. He just knows that Conservatives are evil.
Oops, I left off thomasg0102.
here we go with the false accusations.
spook, care to provide that long kept secret evidence that makes you so sure you know who I am? or let me guess, you’re like Amazona, aka bowie, aka a ton of different names and won’t disclose it?
for being an intelligence officer, you sure lack intelligence.
for being an intelligence officer, you sure lack intelligence.
So, Thomas, when you said, “you want my ideas….fire away, i’d be glad to provide them to you”, I guess you were just blowin’ smoke as usual. Seriously, do you have any core beliefs? I’ll bet, truth be known, you live a conservative lifestyle.
Sure you want to give them everything. After all it is other peoples money. You are always more willing to give away what does not belong to you. The minorities, they are yours. You can have them. You can feed them, cloth them , and house them. You are welcome to them. As soon as the money runs out you are also welcome to the riots and violence that will come with them.
Good luck with that
talking point alert. fear monger alert!
man, someone really brainwashed you good huh? I feel truly sorry for you. Stay away from those who brainwash green! it’s not healthy for you.
Yes, by all means stay away from those evil mennonites. They will feed you if you are hungry. They will care for you if you are sick. If you have no roof over your head they will find you one.
All they ever ask in return is that you contribute to the church in anyway that you can. They(us) are truly despicable in thier ways.
A very Christian attitude GMB – aka Jeramiha. You are the one constantly quoting the Bible – but no where in the Bible have I ever read that Jesus said only the “liberals” should feed “them” clothe “them” and house “them” – whoever “them” is. I take it “them” is minorities and the poor. And we all know that God hates the minorities and the poor. You had better hope that you are not one of “them” at any time in your life.
Do you pick and choose what tenets Jesus advocated to abode by? How about abortion? Was Jesus pro life? Or pro abortion? And will you moderate your position accordingly?
OH Sunny you are truly a piece of work. Driven mostly by emotion. I hardly guote the bible at all. A reference now and then. Your accusations if that is what they are make no sense at all. Please try rephrasing them into something that makes sense.
As for what I think you are saying here. God commands us to charity. However God does not command us to feed those who will not work. The government however, takes money from the tax payer and gives it to those who will not work. I am forced to subsides this policy regardlesss.
You reading the bible? Sorry you would have to video evidence of this. I find it unbelievable.
too much meth? or crack?
no where in the Bible have I ever read that Jesus said “take from him who worketh and give to him who does not for there is salvation in the distribution of what belongs to others”.
Charity is giving of what you have. Theft is giving of what someone else has.
Sorry Marxist are better brainwashers than mennonites ever could be. When was the last time a mennonite called for a world wide revolution?
deflection and talking point again. good try. you’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
keep your beliefs…in 25 years, you’ll be the minority, and then you’ll want help….
Help from the likes of you? Truly laughing my ass off here. Never. My people have survived in this country for 300 years without a bit of help. Dreams are a nice thing. They give you something to look forward to. Keep having them.
See you on the field someday.
so now you have dreams of fighting liberals in combat? really?
what century do you live in? I mean, I know you’re like the Amish, but I didn’t know your brain stayed behind in 1824. I mean really, in 25 years, the demographics of this nation will have shifted to where YOU are the minority. let’s see you on the field then.
Wow, how telling. You will be in the minority. not us, or we, but You!
yes, YOU, people of his ilk. people who have his beliefs, people who don’t teach men how to fish, or give them a fish as he said.
come on Amazona, Count of Can’t or luv2hate, out with it.
” people of his ilk. people who have his beliefs,” are “Conservatives” which is a growing demographic.
But, that’s not what you meant, in 25 years white people will be in the minority. Why don’t you consider yourself “white”? Gee, it’s that whole Ashamed Iranian thing again, isn’t it Sasan?
all talk and no evidence. yawn, get a life count of can’t/Amazona/luv2hatelibs/bowie/luckee
That is not a problem at all. Demoghrahics mean nothing. I am already in the minority. It does not matter. Only people like you put importance on the color of skin. It is a mantra to the lefties. Divide, seperate, exclude. These are your weapons not mine.
Keep up the good work though.
Demoghrahics mean nothing. I am already in the minority. It does not matter. Only people like you put importance on the color of skin.
really? you are in the minority but don’t care about labeling? if that’s the case, why do you call yourself a mennonite? why not just American?
…but the problem is you don’t teach them how to fish, and you won’t give them a fish! thats why minorities by and large don’t vote for the GOP! – thomas
Thomas has unwittingly revealed liberals disguised racism. Tell us thomas, why do you believe that “minorities” either need to be taught to fish, or given fish (so to speak). My suspicion is that you and other liberals consider them to be completely reliant on others to help them, because you consider them to be incapable of taking care of themselves. Is that it?
wow, the ignorance train hasn’t left the station yet.
you are good at twisting words around aren’t you? that’s easy to do on a blog where you can cut and paste posts.
hmmm…let’s see…you enslave a race for 150 years, segregate them for another 75. put another race in internment camps, systematically exterminate native americans…and then all of a sudden, realize that they want to be free…..and now expect them to do it all without any help.
yep, that’s republicans for you!
..you enslave a race for 150 years, segregate them for another 75. put another race in internment camps, systematically exterminate native americans…thomas
Did I do all that??? Where did I find the time?
You might want to pick up a book by Thomas Sowell. Not that you would read it, but it might lend some insight into your obviously severely disturbed psyche.
Here we go again with the classic talking point. “I didn’t do it, my ancestors did.”
If that was the case, why did they make Germany pay reparations to the Jews when most of the Germans paying it had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust?
unfortunately for you and the GOP, and fortunately for the Dems, keep being ignorant….we will just take the minority vote..which soon will be the majority vote.
also, isn’t it funny you find Sowell interesting…you find ONE minority who is on your side and tout him as an expert…but when other minorities speak against your sick views….you cry out reverse racism! truly the defition of a GOPer.
Is Thomas Sowell not black enough? How about Bill Cosby?
nobody ever said he wasn’t black enough, or white enough.
I simply said, you adore minorities that support your distorted world view, and cry reverse racism when other minorities speak against you.
you’re boxed in little man.
Do you believe that minorities are individuals with independent minds? Or are they of the same mind simply because of their skin color?
i dont know that anyone alive enslaved a race…its thomastooge’s dream to villify whites…he is a racist pig…trying to stoke the flames of hatred for what…
so he can have sex and get his wife pregnant…so they can get money for planned parenthoods free abortions…
it must suck to be thomastooge…really bad…and he talks about…ignorance….he’s a posterchild
some stooge said;
“If that was the case, why did they make Germany pay reparations to the Jews when most of the Germans paying it had NOTHING to do with the Holocaust? ”
does that mean…that all the blacks should go to the arabs and demand reparations because 10 generations ago the arab muslims stole thier ancestors from the local village in africa?
wake up fool…you got hit with the stupid stick so many times…it aint funny
Thomas’s entire political philosophy, as evidenced by his many rantings here today, is based solely on the premise that the government needs to take care of people in as many ways as possible, preferably only the minorities though. Obviously because of the fact that those people are incapable of taking care of themselves. This philosophy also works well with his sub conscience desire to be superman and defender of all things evil, without actually having to do anything himself. It’s actually quite amusing.
And another premise of Thomas’s political philosophy – white men are evil.
Rather simplistic, but that is the entire depth of which Thomas can go.
So let’s sum it up – thomas believes that white men are evil, and minorities are incapable of doing anything on their own.
As far as the native indians go, they fought, they lost. They would have been none too gentle with europeans if they had won. There would be no reservations for the whites that lost a war to them.
As far as the neisei, it was a racist democrat that put there. The blacks, all jim crow laws originate with the racist democrats. How they able to turn 180 degrees and get the blacks to support them 95% of the time is shocking.
Not really. They found out they could use opm to buy votes.
How they able to turn 180 degrees and get the blacks to support them 95% of the time is shocking.
maybe because the dems of the 60’s are the GOPers of today. did you ever think of that sport?
Ummm no. It is donks that are saying minorities need special help. Need the set aside and quotas and whatever. It is the donks keeping minorities dependent on welfare. It is the donks saying minorites dont need to learn how to fish because we will give them all the fish they could need.
If minorities ever learned how to fish they would not need the Thomases of this world to give them other peoples fishies.
utter bs and talking points. seriously, could you be any more misinformed or deluded?
sad to see people like you being brainwashed.
sad sad sad so sad
Maybe warren buffett could give out some of his extra fishies? Couldn’t mr buffett provide a ride for the poor minority woman is punished with a baby to the nearest pp clinic?
Talking point? Where? When? Sorry there is no talking points in any of my posts today. Mr Rupert and the Koch Brothers forgot to mail them out today so I am winging it. 😛
Collectivism nearly killed the colonials at the start and surely it is trying to kill us again. Those who do not learn from history are sure to repeat it.
Hmmmm seeing things again?