Obama lifted his political skirt today as the media is now awash in how in a supposedly ‘hot mic’ unscheduled moment he told Russian President Dimitri Medvedev to pretty much ‘chill out’ and that he’d have much more ‘flexibility’ after winning his second term.
The main question to ask here, of course, is “Flexibility to do what?”
Well, perhaps candidate Obama can give us some clues:
In the full video, then-candidate Obama later stated that he is fully committed to the policy as outlined above, and that he will “keep (his) promises.”
But before you go dismissing out of hand the notion that Barack Obama keeps any of his promises, consider this:
Obama promised that health care ‘reform’ will pass; it did so, even though via the auspices of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, we indeed did not find out what was in the bill until it was passed.
During the campaign, then-candidate Obama also promised that under his policies, the cost of electricity/energy will “necessarily skyrocket.”
That too, has become reality.
There are some promises, of course, that Obama chose not to keep; and one could argue never intended to keep. One was that you’d be able to keep your doctor and your health plan under Obamacare; another that the public would never be forced to pay for an abortion under Obamacare; you know, lipstick-on-a-pig type stuff.
But make no mistake. Obama is a dyed in the wool socialist. Any promise he has made that will serve to further his neo-socialist agenda, and in the process compromise America’s economic and military security (remember, America is arrogant and needs to be taken down a few notches), you can bet your bottom dollar (that is, if you have any dollars left when he’s done with the economy) he will keep.
So, sleep peacefully under Obama’s second term, knowing that he fully intends to bring the United States into the community of feckless, neutered, third-world nations.
How’s that hopenchange working for you, anyway?
“So, sleep peacefully under Obama’s second term, knowing that he fully intends to bring the United States into the community of feckless, neutered, third-world nations.”
Then maybe the opposition should “oppose” him, don’t you think? A year and a half into the current term of Congress and the Boehner , Cantor, and McConnell have given in on virtually everything.
Almost a year and a half into the current term and they still refuse to defund rombamacare.
Why? Becuase they are afraid to shut down the government when the donks balk? How long are we supposed to support a party that refuses to even try to win?
There is so much ammunition to use against Obama, and a lot of it is his own words and actions, that it’s really hard to believe that he can win in November. I also wish that Boehner had a stronger spine, but I do like the work Ryan has been doing, and have to disagree a little with GMB, which should come as no surprise. Knowing that we (conservatives) also have the media to combat, shutting down the government would be a gift to the media and take the focus completely off of Obama, besides Ryan can’t even get a budget debated in the Senate, let alone trying to get anything else done. Harry Reid is a complete failure.
You combat the media by ignoring them and telling our leadership to ignore them too. You tell them that conservatism wins every time it is tried.
You adopt ever damned dirty trick the donks have ever used and turn them against them. Obstruct, amend, filibuster and yes, you shut government down if you have to. You yell and scream bloody murder until your message gets out.
The people of this country were ready for a shutdown over funding rombamacare and the leadership caved in.
How will you ever win if you wont fight for what you believe in? Draw a line somewhere, anywhere, and refuse to budge from it! If you don’t use what power you have, you are worthless.
Success breeds success.
I disagree about Reid. He has been a spectacular success. HE has gotten everthing HE wans
You win by picking and choosing your fights, and shutting down the government now is not the right fight. Let’s retain the House and win the presidency then we have the fire power to win. Going off half cocked solves nothing.
Not to disagree completely Cluster but it is coming to times to choose (and I do not mean parties) to forge a new nation. One which we all thought we knew and understood.
“You win by picking and choosing your fights, and shutting down the government now is not the right fight.”
Thats the problem. It never will be the right time or the right fight. There will always be something else needed to win. The needed resources will never be there. The excuses never end.
Success breeds success. Failure breeds failure. You tell me. What have the republicans succeeded in lately? Why are they so afraid of winning?
“You adopt ever damned dirty trick the donks have ever used and turn them against them. Obstruct, amend, filibuster and yes, you shut government down if you have to.”
How can you say that? Really? Republicans DOUBLED the filibuster when Dems were in control in the 110th.
Democrats don’t shut down the government. They have, in fact, benefited politically from GOP shutdown threats only because voters think it’s a stupid tactic. These are right-wing tools. Clearly. Undeniably.
As for the media, just give Murdoch and the Saudi Prince a call. I’m sure they’ll surrender their liberal agenda if you ask nicely. Maybe ask GE and those commies at Microsoft to tone down MSNBC. And for goodness sakes, keep that Stalin lapdog Diane Sawyer off the tv machine. That ABC-Disney leftist propaganda makes me see RED!
Republicans DOUBLED the filibuster when Dems were in control in the 110th. – bozo
Aw the filibuster. Otherwise known as minority rights, that is when democrats are in the minority. You do support minorities right bozo?
Obama is almost an unstoppable force, because he has so many programs out there where people just sign up and they don’t have to work, just sit home and watch television. While there children are being schooled in the latest communist propaganda.
So these people are supporting him to their very own loss of freedom, and eventual demise.
No, it will take the blood, the pain, and the tears to secure our freedoms once again…
Do you have something to say about the thread? // Moderator
And here is the chief problem of conservatives. You wish to be seen as the liberating all-compassionate Union but you have the bigotries and caustic arrogance of the Confederacy.
“And here is the chief problem of conservatives. You wish to be seen as the liberating all-compassionate Union but you have the bigotries and caustic arrogance of the Confederacy.
A comment worthy of an OWS’er and just as phony. Maybe Neo will post his link to the long shameful history of the donks?
major pain, this is without a doubt one of the most utterly stupid in a long line of utterly stupid posts you have dumped on this blog.
First, you clearly have no idea of the definition of “conservatives” as you seem, for some odd reason, to have a political philosophy confused with some assigned thought patterns that not only have nothing at all to do with the political philosophy that defines conservatism but which apparently stem from your own hatred of a group you have to define in bogus terms.
Do try to keep up with political thought, if you insist on posting on a political blog. For example, “conservative” means 21st Century
American Conservatism. Ponder that for a moment. 21st Century ANYTHING did not exist in the mid-19th Century.
I’ll give you a moment for that to sink in.
Now, if you are talking about IDENTITY (which of course you are, being of the Left) you would be talking about the 19th Century Republican Party, which did in fact liberate slaves and protect the Union. And yes, modern-day Republicans are proud of those facts, as well we should be, just as we are proud of the fact that we championed the passage of the Equal Rights Act in the mid-20th Century. Each of these feats involved bitter fighting against Democrats (who, by the way, at that time had only the vaguest links to the radical Left that has taken over the party today, another reason to understand ideology instead of being so dependent on identity.)
BTW, thanks for assigning “caustic arrogance” to the Confederacy, which in reality has been more closely represented by the opposition to the passage of the Civil Rights Act than anything else that has happened since it fought so hard to retain slavery. It’s a strange term, but you seem to be impressed by it, and at least you were honest enough to assign it to the attempts to either enslave black people or refuse to acknowledge their equality under the law.
Today, conservatives, being pragmatic, have decided for the most part that it is better to reform the Republican Party, as it is an existing political force, to move it more toward the conservative tenets associated with the political ideology that the United States Constitution is the best political system for governing the United States, than to waste time inventing a new party or building the Libertarian Party into a competitive party. For this reason, conservatives tend to vote Republican. But not all Republicans are conservatives, and not all conservatives are Republicans.
i know, this truth does not fit into your tightly wound little distortions of political reality, as has so little to do with the Identity Politics that form the core of whatever it is that you think is political thought.
Too bad.
GMB
Maybe Neo will post his link to the long shameful history of the donks?
Lets go with this one in stead………
http://www.black-and-right.com/the-democrat-race-lie/
moreDumbo pain
Union but you have the bigotries and caustic arrogance of the Confederacy.
actually the confederacy, the KKK, NOI, NBBP, are ALL Donks.
next?
“How’s that hopenchange working for you, anyway?”
It’s a LOT like getting older. Beats the HECK out of the alternative. Thanks for asking!
Bozo,
Did you ever let us know when that vote on the use of limited resources was held?
Not sure I can answer this here, since I get deleted for irrelevant posts. Funny because it makes the responses irrelevant-er (is that a word?)
Testing, one, two, three…
Ok, are you pretending to not understand how all laws in our democracy get made, or are you inferring that I don’t? Short-term electoral consequences of defying voters? You’re implying that I believe laws like the Energy Independence and Security Act was on the ballot right below “President: Obama or McCain?”
You might believe I’m that ignorant, but I can’t return the favor.
Ok, are you pretending to not understand how all laws in our democracy get made, or are you inferring that I don’t? Short-term electoral consequences of defying voters? You’re implying that I believe laws like the Energy Independence and Security Act was on the ballot right below “President: Obama or McCain?”
Short-term memory problems, Bozo? Drugs will do that to you. I think what Cluster is referring to has nothing to do with the process of how laws are made but this statement of yours from the Political Spectrum thread:
While you’re at it, freakzo, tell us of one single Leftist country that has (choose just one if you prefer)
Set a world standard for economic prosperity
Set a world standard for unlimited opportunity
Set a world standard for personal liberty
Set a world standard for scientific advancement
Had people dying to get IN instead of out
You people support and defend your system only by attacking its opposition. Why is that? If it’s so great, why don’t you defend it? Explain it and tell us why it is better?
Oh, wait, you don’t really attack the opposition’s SYSTEM, do you? That’s right—-you attack the opposition’s PEOPLE, with silly statements like Cheney’ legal draft deferments 45 years ago. Incisive political commentary, that.
Every post you people submit merely adds to the vast body of evidence that you either know nothing of your chosen system’s ideology or you do and realize that if you admit to it you are admitting to an indefensible position if you are forced to defend it on merit and historical success.
Every post you people submit merely adds to the vast body of evidence that you are drawn to the opportunity offered by the Left to indulge in pointless spite and malice under the pretext of political commentary, but that you are incapable of true political commentary because you are too deep in the pathology of hating a system you also do not understand.
And far too many posts from people like you are dependent on projections of racism onto people who have never shown any hint of racism, using your own twisted and hate-driven pathologies as springboards for attributing them to others.
And….you’re just plain silly. “Caustic arrogance”? Too funny
Norway.
Canada.
Switzerland.
Dang, that’s three. FAIL on me.
Norway? Seriously? You mean the Norway that has had less than 1% annual GDP growth since 2007? That Norway. You mean the Norway that has a total national population about half that of New York City? Too funny.
Canada – Leftist? Better not let Stephen Harper hear you say that.
Switzerland – Leftist? Sorry, not on the list anymore
0 for 3 — EPIC FAIL.
I’ve been pondering freakzo’s list, and need him to clarify:
Which of these things can be said about each of the three nations he listed?
Set a world standard for economic prosperity
Set a world standard for unlimited opportunity
Set a world standard for personal liberty
Set a world standard for scientific advancement
Had people dying to get IN instead of out
He seems to think Norway, Switzerland and Canada are pretty nice places that have done well under modified Leftist governments, but I just don’t see any of them meeting the criteria I set out.
What have the republicans succeeded in lately? Why are they so afraid of winning? – GMB
The GOP has submitted not one, but two excellent budgets that the democrats refuse to debate and that fact has not gone unnoticed. The GOP victory in 2010 forced Obama to extend the Bush tax rates, the GOP wins in many of the states have forced Obamacare to the SC, the GOP win in WI resulted in public union reforms and a balanced state budget, etc, etc.
Quit being over dramatic. There is always a time for battle, it’s just knowing when that time is and having the right strategy that propels you to a sustainable victory, and that time is coming soon. And the democrats are helping – the “war on women” backfired on them, they over reached on healthcare, they have insane energy policies, their foreign policy is a mess, they have no clue what to do with unemployment, and now this rush to judgement on Trayvon is also not helping. When your opponent is burning his house down, get out of the way.
We will stay out of the way until we have a nominee – then we can expose all of their spectacular incompetence over the last 3 1/2 years, win the POTUS and retain the House and begin the battle.
“Quit being over dramatic.”
I don’t think that is a dramatic question. I think that is a question a lot of consevatives are asking. Why does rombama care have to go the Supreme Court when the republicans have the power to kill it outright?
In my opinion, defunding rombamacare was a fight the republicans could have won. Yet to this day, the replicans keep funding it in every temporary spending bill that comes up.
Why?
We did not have the power to kill it. The GOP only controls 1/3 of the government, and repealing Obamacare will require controlling at least 2/3rds. Defunding some of it is a possibility, but again, the democrats are currently self imploding and it’s imperative that we allow that implosion to continue unimpeded. Currently, democrats are having to argue to the SC that the personal mandate is a tax, after telling Americans that it was not a tax, and that they wouldn’t raise taxes on anyone making less than $250K/yr. We are soon to find out that both of those campaign promises were lies – let’s not interrupt that.
I think the difference is, Cluster, is that you are playing chess and GMB is playing Whack-A-Mole. He sees no farther ahead than the next imperfect Republican he can hammer.
“I think the difference is, Cluster, is that you are playing chess and GMB is playing Whack-A-Mole. He sees no farther ahead than the next imperfect Republican he can hammer.”
Have I whacked any specific republican at all in this thread? No, I have not.
The majority of the American people are against rombama care. Replicans say they are against it. Yet they continue to it?
Does anyone care to take a stab at the reason why?
Yours was the first post on the thread, in which you slammed Boehner , Cantor, and McConnell One might assume that the silly moniker “rombamacare” might just refer to Romney.
I don’t sit out here in Colorado and assume I know the ins and outs of Congressional maneuvering. I don’t. Perhaps Illinois farms have a better view of the machinations of Congress than Colorado ranches do.
You can GUESS why things don’t go the way you want them to. You can SPECULATE why people don’t do what you want them to do. You can scream and squeal and hoot and holler, you can stomp your feet and pull your hair and make up stupid names to try to express your feeling of superior knowledge and motivation, but the simple fact is, what you actually KNOW is a very small and imperfect part of what is really going on.
You may be a very nice guy. You might be totally sincere, and you and I might agree on basic political philosophy. But you are not a person I would trust to handle ANY problem that was more complex than something that could be solved by smashing, trampling or blowing up.
I think the difference is, Cluster, is that you are playing chess and GMB is playing Whack-A-Mole
That’s actually an excellent way to look at it.
Not defending GMB here but I was working during the Carter years and that was the first time I educated myself and voted for Reagan. Before that I accepted everything at face value and really did not understand. I was in the military under Reagan and HW Bush but bailed (for a number of reasons) under Clinton because of his stances which were anti-military (sound familiar?).
To be quite honest, the Republican party has been running and losing with “moderates” just about ever since. Being a Constitutional conservative Libertarian I tend to vote Republican but will find it difficult to vote of any of the PotUS candidates (Dr. Paul has his own special reasons in my book) this season but the point I was leading up to is when the Republicans fight and get their reasons for fighting out to the public–they win. When the try to compromise and claim the center–they lose.
db,
As a long term Californian I remember Reagan; Reagan governed to the left of where Romney would be.
By that day’s standard Reagan was considered a wild-eyed right-winger.
All spending bills originate in the House of Represenatives. The republicans control the House of Represenatives. The republicans keep voting to fund rombamacare. All but two republican governors have accepted federal money to start instituting health exchanges in thier states.
Why are the republicans playing along with a scheme they claim is unconstitutional? In a vauge hope the Supreme Court will find it unconstitutional? Well, as it it stands now the vote for finding it that way stands at 0 votes Yea and 4 votes Nay.
Better be prepared for the Supreme Court to find it constitutional. It might happen.
Note that the two resident PL trolls who have already posted on this thread have contributed comments about a Saudi Prince, Rupert Murdoch, Dick Cheney, the “caustic arrogance” of an entity that has not existed for about 150 years, Diane Sawyer, General Butler, and slaves.
And not a word about Obama’s promise to a foreign official that he will be “more flexible” in his next term, and his request for “more space” till he begins that next term.
GMB used this post thread to snap to his default position of anti-GOP, anti-Romney rants, and to try out his pweshuss new invention, rombama care, and the trolls did their trolly thing and just tried to shift the discourse to the only arena where they have any comfort, that of Identity Politics, but it seems to me that comments on this thread might be expected to be about, well, the thread topic.
And there is plenty to talk about. For example, how much more “flexibility” can we handle from a president who has already, simply by issuing an order, handed unlimited power and authority to a government agency to unilaterally define “pollution” as it sees fit and then act as it sees fit to do what it can claim is intended to halt or correct this self-defined problem?
It seemed that Obama had a lot of “flexibility” when he ordered the shutdown of drilling in the Gulf, and blocked offshore drilling along the Atlantic Coast. It showed a lot of presidential “flexibility” when he took over GM, dictated that the current president resign, and stripped equity in the company from its stockholders (who had paid for that stock) to hand it over to unions as paybacks for union support.
Maybe he wants even more judicial “flexibility” than shown so far by appointing a black Attorney General who then proceeded to tell his staff he had no intention of prosecuting black-on-white crime. It seemed pretty flexible to appoint a Supreme Court justice who had actively worked for the White House to promote the passage of Obamacare, knowing that the Court would be asked to rule on this program. (Or, to be accurate, this maze of programs lumped together under one misleading name.)
The question I see inherent in this thread post is: “How much more “flexible” can we expect Obama to be when he doesn’t have to worry about reelection, when he has exhibited so much “flexibility” knowing he would have to run for office again? How much more debt will a lame-duck president be able to dump on future American citizens when he doesn’t have to worry about how this might affect his future electability? How many more people, Americans and whoever else has strolled across our borders, will be handed OPM to guarantee future Dem electoral victories and the continuation of the Leftist death spiral of America he has been advancing?”
“GMB used this post thread to snap to his default position of anti-GOP, anti-Romney rants, and to try out his pweshuss new invention, rombama care,”
I have been calling ot that for a long time now. You tell me why the GOP keeps this monstrosity funded when they have the power to end it.
Please.
You tell me what this has to do with Obama’s openly stated intent to grab more power.
There is a lot I don’t like but I also know that ranting and raving about it isn’t going to change a thing.
I understand that this is a process, and if I am unhappy about what is going on in Congress I have to work at the state level to get different people elected to Congress.
I also understand that we are in opposition to a system which has perfected propaganda and which has 90% of the American media at its beck and call, not to mention a little army of mindless lemmings like the freakzo who will regurgitate Lefty talking points at the drop of a hat. This means that while advocating serious and legitimate conservative values IS a winning strategy, blundering into a pissing match which will give the opposition the ammunition to spin that into false claims such as Republicans “shutting down government” etc. is foolish.
You believe you are the only one smart enough to see the problem and the only one smart enough to know what to do about it. Fine. This floats your boat. But there’s an awfully good chance that a lot of other people see the problem even more clearly than you do, and have a lot of much better ways of working to solve it, than your bulldozer approach. Just because you are not privy to those ideas does not mean they are not there. Just because you don’t agree with what you do know, or think you know, doesn’t mean you are right and they are wrong.
You act as if no one understands your frustration, and no one cares. Wrong. We do, and we do.
We just don’t spend our time on soapboxes hollering about it, and we don’t waste our time inventing stupid names like rombabma care. We don’t let our frustration define us, or blind us.
Ama,
A lame duck four years for our current anti-colonialist President who already rivals Wilson and FDR for their revile of the US Constitution–let alone the proclamations of separations of power within. Out of control cabinet members and Czars out the whazoo.
What could possibly go wrong?
I am neither frustrated or blind. What I am asking is why the do the replicans not use what power is available to them.
Despite all the media hype the majority of the people are against this monstrosity and are willing to back the GOP over this. What damage could it cause for the republicans in the House to just say no to anymore funds?
Bulldozer approach? Maybe maybe not. You think the donks won’t use a bulldozer on us? All you have to do is look ate the occupant of the White House. HIS bulldozer has been quiet effective.
I am neither frustrated or blind. What I am asking is why the do the replicans not use what power is available to them.
Have you ever written, emailed, called your Congressman or attended a town hall meeting and asked him?
Sure have Spook. It seems that most have voted to continue funding at the urging of the republican leadership.
You want to wade through this mess and look?
Aaron Shocks total voting record. ACU has his current rating at 92% Pretty darn good except for the fact that he keeps voting to fund socialized medicine.
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/S001179/votes/page4/
“replicans” Ain’t that just too cute for words?
Beg your pardon there. I meant republicans. No insult was intended.
The vast majority of the funding for Obamacare is mandatory spending and cannot be de-funded, no matter how much you claim that it can be. the bulk of spending is classified with Medicare and SCHIP.
The small amount that can be defunded will simply be put in riders by the dimocrats to military bills to keep them funded as well.
to your point, the Republicnas don’t have the authority in the House to kill the bill; it must be repealed.
Srry, fingers bandaged from a cigar cutter incident that I’d rather not talk about.
My spelling errors are really typing errors; carry on.
This man disagrees with you.
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/03/09/defunding-obamacare-istook-testifies-in-the-house/
And this one agrees with me.
I wonder how many homeowners are going to want to reward BHOzo with another 4 years.
I’ve had a house on the market since January of 2009, at a price 40% less than I was told to list it for in 2007. I have since knocked another 15% off. The house next door just dropped its price by 30%, and it went on the market last year at about half of what it would have been priced at a few years earlier.
And neither is moving. They are both great houses, but the competition from even cheaper houses is too great and the market too soft.
Spook, what do you know about the plan to force every house to meet “environmental” criteria before being sold? This is something that was being talked about a couple of years ago, forcing homeowners to bring their houses up to arbitrary standards before being able to sell them. Any idea of what happened to THAT brilliant idea?
““Hello, Is This Thing On?””
speaking of Uboma’s brain were’nt we?
Spook, what do you know about the plan to force every house to meet “environmental” criteria before being sold?
That was one of those urban legends that was never true.
That was in the Cap & Trade Bill, which was defeated on Congress, but is still trying to be implemented through the EPA
I thought that that was a regulation in the cap & trade bill – maybe not
“Hello, Is This Thing On?”
Mooch to barry…………?