Well, I’m Back

Or, more accurately, will be when I have more chance to write for a moment.  But, the hiatus is over, and Mark Noonan is once again commenting on Blogs for Victory.

It won’t be exactly like it was before – I simply do not have the time to write 3 to 5 blog entries per day, but you should see me a couple times a week posting – and perhaps more as we get closer to November.

Meanwhile, Zero Hedge has the chart no one dares to show the President; more proof that BLS is putting out bogus data.

How a white man can get hold of Eric Holder’s ballot.

It’s a good thing that Obama apparently slept through 20 years of this guy’s sermons.

The only way Obama can get re-elected:  create an alternate universe.

UPDATE:  Well, some of us did point out that Obama was “Welcome Back, Carter” – now we have some proof:

Marking the similarities between President Barack Obama’s time in office and former president Jimmy Carter’s is nothing new. But as of Monday, Obama has hit one more Carter benchmark – both saw gas prices double in their first term of office.

86 thoughts on “Well, I’m Back

  1. GMB April 9, 2012 / 11:46 am

    Welcome back Mark! It’s about time 🙂

  2. tiredoflibbs April 9, 2012 / 12:38 pm

    The fact that a WHITE man could get Holder’s ballot in DC (just by having Holder’s name and address) should be raising flags across the country – but the proggy dumbed down talking point is that it just doesn’t happen.

    Many states are implementing voter ID laws to prevent such fraud from happening (as easily demonstrated).

    Of course, Holder himself is trying to stop any effort at verifying a voter to protect our process of free elections.

    Typical – we can’t have dead people and other individuals claiming to be someone they are not unable to vote for their favorite Democrat candidates.

  3. Retired Spook April 9, 2012 / 12:51 pm

    Hey, buddy — welcome back. Tired and I have been trying to take up the slack during your hiatus, and I have developed a new appreciation for the amount of writing you did over the years.

    I had a chat with the Indiana Attorney General at a GOP breakfast a couple months ago about voter fraud. He said they don’t really know how extensive voting-in-person fraud is, because most of it isn’t detected and very little of what is detected is prosecuted. He said they won’t really know how effective voter ID’s are until they are fully implemented across the country. Then they’ll have some statistics to compare to. It should eliminate situations where the number of votes exceeds the number of registered voters in a given area. He went on to say the real fraud is in absentee voting where an ID isn’t going to help much, and no one is talking much about how to solve that.

    • Mark Edward Noonan April 9, 2012 / 10:07 pm

      The way to do it is to organize 10,000 people to stand out front of Democrat-heavy precincts and simply count the number of people who come in and then compare that to the number of votes each precinct reports…but we’ll find that turnout in the most heavy Democrat areas is less than 25% because when you live under one-party government (ie, Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles – where Democrats roll up the huge majorities necessary to counter-balance the GOP vote in the rest of Illinois, Michigan and California) then you simply don’t bother to vote that much. Its not exciting – you know the result. When we find precint after precint reporting, say, 2,000 votes when the counters only showed 500 people showing up, that will provide the political will to change things.

  4. Cluster April 9, 2012 / 1:51 pm

    Welcome back Mark!!!!!

    I hope all is well with you and your family and that your hiatus served you well – now get to work! lol. I am anxious to read your take on things again.

    Re: Voter ID. Currently we have a situation where someone can walk up to the polling booth on the day of voting, register, and vote, with no ID, no verification whatsoever. And somehow that’s acceptable??? That’s insane to me and is not a responsible way to run a democracy.

  5. Amazona April 9, 2012 / 2:17 pm

    Glad to have you back, Mark.

    I think the blog has worked well with four or five topics a week, so don’t knock yourself out.

    • Mark Edward Noonan April 9, 2012 / 10:17 pm

      I probably was over-doing it…so, fewer but longer articles will be the way to go.

  6. bardolf April 9, 2012 / 4:11 pm

    Welcome back Mark! Any chance of you endorsing Ron Paul? LOL

    • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 4:22 pm

      welcome back mark….

      shrieks of horror heard outside of the forkers basement apt.

      • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 4:31 pm

        How a white man can get hold of Eric Holder’s ballot.

        now IF only one could get Ubomas BC, Selective Service card, SS card, passport and FOREIGN student loan records….

        OH and his law license revocation records.

      • bardolf April 9, 2012 / 4:33 pm

        John Derbyshire has been fired from his position at the conservative National Review magazine. Does Neoconehead know why?

      • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 4:49 pm

        for altering tra von 911 tapes ?

        IF you are a white male and speak the truth to racial issues you get lynched,

        If you are a black male (rev al) and lead howling racist mobs, put out hits on private citizens, cause civil unrest and threaten riots …..= crickets chirp, and possibly a nobel peace prize.
        Oh—- and a TV show

      • GMB April 9, 2012 / 4:49 pm

        Bardolf any chance you know the answer to 20 of these 21 questions?

        1.Dunham-Obama marriage license. Not released.
        2.Dunham-Soetoro marriage license. Not released.
        3.Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama adoption records. Not released.
        4.Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Besuki School application obtained. (evidence)
        5.Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Punahou School records. Not released.
        6.Selective Service Registration – a proven forgery released and a criminal act.
        7.Obama’s Occidental College records. Not released.
        8.Obama’s passport from Indonesia, he had to have one to attend school in Indonesia. Not released.
        9.Obama’s U.S. Passport, if one exists. Not released.
        10.Obama entered Pakistan on what countries passport. Not released.
        11.Obama’s Columbia University records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.
        12.Obama’s Columbia University thesis. Not released.
        13.Not one name of any student who knows Obama attendant Columbia released or known.
        14.Obama’s Harvard Law School records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.
        15.Obama’s Harvard Law Review articles, none released.
        16.Obama’s Baptism certificate, if one exists? None released.
        17.Obama’s Illinois State Senate records. Not released.
        18.Obama’s Illinois State Senate schedule. Not released (alleged to have been lost).
        19.Obama’s Law practices client list and billing records. Not released.
        20.Obama’s University of Chicago scholarly articles, none released or exist?
        21.The reason Obama lost his license to practice law in Illinois. Not released. (forgery)

      • bardolf April 9, 2012 / 11:20 pm


        The goal of modern presidential politics seems to dictate being as blank a slate as possible.

  7. Cluster April 9, 2012 / 4:50 pm

    I heard today that the white supremicists are now patrolling the streets in Sanford because of the Black Panthers call for a bounty on Zimmerman. This is beyond insane. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson should be put on trial for fomenting racial discord in this country, and Derbyshire should’ve been fired. We really need to get to that place Martin Luther dreamed of 50 years ago – where people are judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin.

    • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 5:06 pm

      dont forget missing name change documents.

      gotta love the MIA GOP governor, atty general, us senator, state police, FDLE, etc.etc. etc.

      today the Sanford police station was CLOSED because of protestor thugs.
      NO GRAND JURY…………..gangster, thug, TERRORISTS promise blood in the streets……..GOP FLA = chirp chirp, tweet tweet………

    • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 5:28 pm


      Derbyshire should’ve been fired.

      what about his article is not true?
      maybe not PC but a conversation many have had with their family’s

      • Cluster April 9, 2012 / 5:57 pm

        I would have fired him for simply being stupid. When you get in the mud be prepared to fight with pigs. I am beyond tired of this obsession with color of someone’s skin.

      • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 6:11 pm

        the obsession of one’s skin color is the property of the left.
        how ever the personal character of one demographic’s populace leaves much to be desired.

      • Retired Spook April 9, 2012 / 6:19 pm

        what about his article is not true?


        It’s sad that ANYONE should feel they have to have such a talk with their kids. When my divorced daughter moved out of state last year, and my granddaughter decided to live with her dad, she got stuck in a school that is predominantly black and Hispanic. One of her best friends is a gay black guy. Overall, I’ve had an excellent experience with blacks I’ve come in contact with. In the navy, one of my best friends was black, and when I returned from active duty in the navy back in the 70’s, I chose to buy my first house, not only in an integrated neighborhood, but between two black households. On one side of us was the widow of an insurance executive, and on the other side, a lower class black couple that each worked two jobs in order to move out of the inner city. They were raising their grandson because his mom died of a drug overdose and his dad (their son) was in prison. Both families were salt-of-the-earth, give-you-the-shirt-off-their-back kind of folks. I literally can’t relate to the kind of advice Derb offers in his article.

      • Cluster April 9, 2012 / 6:44 pm

        I too have many black and Hispanic friends and to a person they are some of the most decent and coolest I have ever known. Now I know they do not represent the majority, I have to think that if we did not have people like Sharpton around constantly stirring up the stew, we would get to that place that MLK dreamed of sooner rather than later.

      • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 6:48 pm


        on a one to one basis you are correct,
        I believe he was referring to places like detroit, LA, chicago where on some weekends up to 50 people get shot, many more beaten, and robbed, flash mobs and gangs out wilding in parks and mickey D’s

        Crime stastics speak volumes of our racial problems in our country, I believe his article was responding to an article written by a black man warning his son of the racist “Zimmermans” shooting down unarmed black children .
        It was as much sattire and sarcasm mixed with some truth.

        many days we times work in the “hood” NO problem ever.
        At night? forgetaboutit…..could be a death sentence being white and there…always go armed sad but true.

        I have two black neighbors one two doors down on left one three doors down on right, Vietnamese diagonal across the street, and Korean three doors away in the culdusac all great neighbors all great family’s all great Americans.
        to bad we have the likes of Uboma, wright, farracan, $harpton, je$$e ripping this country apart.

      • dbschmidt April 9, 2012 / 10:48 pm

        I am going to reply without reading anby further but I have to agree with you completlety. When I looked over my desk or over a barrel to hire someone–I never took anything but the person in front of me into account. Black, White, Green — can you do the job?

        It has been the only way I have ever done tihings and like you I am getting tired of the crap.

  8. Retired Spook April 9, 2012 / 5:45 pm

    What happened to the “post-racial” President. Could race relations in this country be going to hell any faster, and does anyone else get the sense that Obama couldn’t care less?

    • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 5:56 pm

      does anyone else get the sense that Obama couldn’t care less?

      THAT *IS* his plan…..

    • GMB April 9, 2012 / 7:50 pm

      I believe barky wants to see how many people the other side will throw to the wolves before the real show starts. It does not matter that Zimmerman, by all accounts is a proper donky, he has been labeled as enemy.

      If Zimmerman does get thrown, it will only embolden the race baiters to go for more and more.

      Appeasement like liberalism never works. It only puts off for a bit the time of reckoning.

      • Cluster April 9, 2012 / 8:08 pm

        One of my favorite lines from one of my favorite movies, “Tombstone” was said by Doc Holliday (Val Kilmer):

        “It’s not revenge he’s after, it’s a reckoning”

      • GMB April 9, 2012 / 8:34 pm

        ““It’s not revenge he’s after, it’s a reckoning”

        I am not familiar with the movie. Is there some more context you can provide?

        It is my thought with people like jacksom, sharpton, and the nbpp, that they will insist on getting thier thier violence no matter what. It is my thought that violence is thier ultimate goal and nothing anyone does will prevent it in the end. Just delay it.

      • Cluster April 9, 2012 / 9:16 pm

        Tombstone is the story of Wyatt Earp and the Clanton bros back in 1881 in Tombstone, AZ. You ought to look it up.

      • dbschmidt April 9, 2012 / 10:54 pm

        Not context GMB but you are right in the the Shaptons, Jacksons, and the such would die off if they cannot whoop up a hornet’s nest amongst the ignorant to keep them alive by which I mean the dollars flowing.

    • tiredoflibbs April 9, 2012 / 9:18 pm

      Spook, anything that obAMATEUR touches is trashed!

      Your perception is that “obAMATEUR could care less” is spot on. If he can’t take advantage of the situation politically, it is not worth his attention.

  9. Cluster April 9, 2012 / 6:07 pm

    It all plays into the hand of liberalism, and that is the victimization of our society. Think about it, the democrats have no power if there are no victims. Bozo just the other day told us to be thankful for our clean air, safe roads, etc, implying that with democrats, there would be no such thing. So many people today actually think that conservatives are “mean” and want an unsafe environment, no rights for women, etc, all because for the last two decades liberals have successfule taught and sold that belief. We now have people like James walking around regurgitating talking points with zero ability to think any deeper. This is why I want conservatives to understand this and have a strategy to beat it, and that can not be done in one federal election. We need to begin to reeducate people on the successful principles of conservatism and how free markets and a free people are best for everyone.

    Did anyone see that the Obama regime “diverted” $500 million to the IRS for enforcement of Obamacare? Why should good health “care” be enforced?

    • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 6:52 pm


      the IRS?
      what a JOKE, I got a letter yesterday stating they didnt get my 1st quarter tax filing (which I mailed)……….then TODAY I got a letter I owed them $13.75 additional tax based on my 1 qtr tax form>

      • neocon1 April 9, 2012 / 7:22 pm

        Most recently, the New Black Panther Party has called for violence.

        In a conference call recorded over the weekend, the militant group said it planned to “suit up and boot up” and prepare for the next stages of the “race war.”

    • Mark Edward Noonan April 9, 2012 / 10:22 pm

      Cluster – a good, liberal friend of mine posted on Facebook the other day this absurd statement of all the good things liberals have done…including “giving” black people the vote. This is to totally ignore all those, well, black people who fought, bled and died to secure their right to vote…to a liberal, it was always gracious, caring liberals who did all the good things. The fact, of course, that liberalism once upon a time set out (under Sanger’s Planned Parenthood) to eliminate black people and other “undesireables” just doesn’t enter in to the equation…most likely because most liberals simply don’t know what most of liberalism has been about. They’ve been fed a story which goes like this – Ancient Times; Evil, Christian Dark Ages; Hideous Capitalism; Wonderful Liberalism Which Saved Us From That…

    • dbschmidt April 9, 2012 / 10:55 pm

      Sad part is–is that people like Bozo actually believe it.

      • bozo April 10, 2012 / 12:56 am

        Hard to imagine blacks, who’s statistical bell curve and historical voting record is solidly liberal, wanting to eliminate black people, unless someone is claiming that they just don’t really know what’s good for them, and have just been fooled into supporting liberal progressive policy. I personally don’t see a correlation between skin color and gullability, so I gotta believe they DO know what they want.

        Not sure wonderful liberalism saved us, but wonderful democracy, which seems to have a liberal bias, sure did. Modern conservatives here have stated that democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for dinner. Me and Ronnie have a little higher opinion of it than that.

        Hi Mark. Glad you’re well.

      • dbschmidt April 10, 2012 / 4:17 am

        It would take me days to explain why the Progressive or Liberal model is the wrong side of the fence to be sitting on from Margaret Sanger to today and it would make as much sense as talking to the wall, Define where you are and why and I will at least be able to start there. Your “history” is at best a falicy..

      • J. R. Babcock April 10, 2012 / 9:07 am

        I personally don’t see a correlation between skin color and gullability, so I gotta believe they DO know what they want.

        A correlation between gullability and skin color would be kinda hard
        to prove. And I don’t know if “gullability” is exactly the right word. I thinks it’s just a matter of Progressive whites, along with the complicity of a select few Progressive blacks having discovered that it was more advantageous politically to offer the majority of blacks free stuff in exchange for their votes as opposed to committing genocide on the black population as Sanger proposed. If we end up in a full-fledged race war, as seems increasingly likely, the donkeys may have to rethink that strategy.

      • Cluster April 10, 2012 / 10:31 am


        Don’t forget that it was the paragons of the democratic party, people like William J Fulbright, Al Gore Senior, etc., that fought the civil rights movement, and thankfully a common sense GOP at the time helped usher in those rights – so don’t really know what you mean by democracy having a liberal bias.

        Conservatives want fairness for everyone, equal opportunity. Democrats and liberals want to select who should be more fair than others, equal outcome.

  10. dbschmidt April 9, 2012 / 10:59 pm

    Welcome back Mr. Noonan. Not to worry ~ the insane (Liberals & Progressives) are still insane and we have added a couple of new trolls. Hope all is well for you and yours but if you have determined it is time. Welcome back to the insanity.

  11. bardolf April 9, 2012 / 11:39 pm


    Since nobody else will ask the hard questions, I will. How is the book is coming along? LOL

    • Mark Edward Noonan April 10, 2012 / 1:02 am

      During the hiatus I first took several months of just about doing nothing…but now the concept has actually expanded and it will probably end up being two books.

  12. Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 9:21 am

    You gotta give Obama one thing: he’s persistent if nothing else.

    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — The White House on Tuesday made a renewed push for the so-called Buffett Rule that would lift tax rates on high-earning individuals as it released a report defending the proposal.

    The Buffett Rule — named after Warren Buffett, chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, who has said he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary — would force millionaires to pay at least 30% of their income in taxes before charity.

    The rule has very little prospect of becoming law and comes as President Barack Obama stakes part of his re-election effort on what the White House calls the “basic principle of tax fairness.”

    Obama later on Tuesday will make the case for the tax change in Boca Raton, Fla, and Vice President Joe Biden will be in New Hampshire Thursday promoting the rule ahead of a Senate procedural vote scheduled next week.

    If it were implemented, the proposal would raise an estimated $47 billion over 10 years, and even more if Bush-era tax cuts that are slated to expire at year end aren’t renewed, according to Jason Furman, principal deputy director of the National Economic Council.

    Sounds like a great argument for the Fair Tax to me.

    • Cluster April 10, 2012 / 10:16 am

      Has Buffett paid the back taxes that he owes?

    • J. R. Babcock April 10, 2012 / 10:53 am

      If it were implemented, the proposal would raise an estimated $47 billion over 10 years,

      Spook, to put that in perspective, this year’s budget (ie. 1 year) for food stamps in $85 billion, on it’s way to $111 billion if USDA gets their way.

      BTW, is anyone else having problems with the comment box collapsing while entering your comments? Annoying.

      • Amazona April 10, 2012 / 11:46 am

        Yes, that happened to me, too. I’m not sure what I did to expand it again but for a while I couldn’t scroll down to the bottom of my post. I thought it was my computer, which needs a tune-up as I have some hesitation sometimes when I am typing and then the whole string of words suddenly appears. Interesting to know that this, at least, seems to be a blog thing.

        That, or your computer and mine have been canoodling behind our backs and both have ETDs—-Electronically Transmitted Diseases.

      • Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 12:50 pm


        As Rush just noted on his radio show, if every federal agency just cut 1% out of it’s budget, it would save 7 times what the Buffet Rule would generate.

      • Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 1:19 pm

        J.R. and Amazona,

        I’ve encountered the same problem with the comments box. Entering a couple returns seems to be a work-around, but as J.R. notes, annoying. I’ve given Matt a heads up.

    • Amazona April 10, 2012 / 12:11 pm

      I wonder if Biden will stick to a prepared speech or wander off into the rhetorical weeds like he did with his rambling 11-minute run-on sentence in response to a question about why gas prices are so high.

      If I were a Biden handler I would equip him with a shock collar, a kind of verbal Invisible Fence, to rein him in when he starts to wander.

      Hugh Hewitt and Mark Steyn tried to analyze the gas price quote, and couldn’t get past the first five minutes, they were laughing so hard. As Steyn said after a break, “now, back to where we left off in that sentence..” It’s probably in a transcript on radioblogger.com or the Hewitt web site—it’s worth taking a look at if you didn’t hear it.

    • tiredoflibbs April 10, 2012 / 12:24 pm

      Buffett and the rest of the whiny proggies should just use the mechanism already in place for paying more taxes they feel they should be paying.

      Instead, they just continue to whine and moan and push for the tax increases. Tax increases they will still try to avoid as history has shown.

  13. Amazona April 10, 2012 / 10:43 am

    Easy to imagine any group of people with a history of oppression which can be used to foster an ongoing sense of victimization being emotionally drawn to a political PARTY which plays to that sense of being wronged.

    Easy to imagine any group of people eager to see themselves as kind, generous, tolerant and wanting everything to be better being emotionally drawn to a political PARTY which capitalizes on those warm fuzzy feelings—and which emphazises the claimed moral superiority of that party by demonizing the opposition as being against all the good things these well-meaning people are for.

    Easy to imagine the unambitious, the unmotivated, and the downright lazy being emotionally drawn to a PARTY which promises to take what other people have earned and give it to the slackers.

    It’s easy to imagine because we see it every day. What is hard to imagine is why these groups never bother to go beyond the PARTY they think stands for whatever it is that revs their motors, to the IDEOLOGY hidden behind the party identity.

    So black people, for example, vote for the image they have been fed of the PARTY,. and don’t bother to look behind the curtain at the ugly reality of the ideology that has taken over this party. Ideology that includes things like the racist and genocidal origins of the group—Planned Parenthood—–they now are told is not only just a kind and gentle and loving place for the underprivileged to be “helped” but is under vicious attack by the vicious Other.

    So those kind, generous, tolerant, wanting-everything-to-be-better folks don’t bother to examine the harsh reality of the ideology that has taken over the PARTY they think represents these truly noble aspirations, to see the brutality of the system they are actually supporting and enabling because they prefer to stay on the glossy and highly imaginative surface of alleged moral superiority—and of course they are defensive because they have been told that all these things they hold so dear are under vicious attack by the vicious Other.

    The third group just doesn’t care.

  14. Amazona April 10, 2012 / 10:53 am

    The Deparmtent of Justice on Monday attempted to play down video proof of how easy it is to vote fraudulently when a man working for James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas obtained Attorney General Eric Holder’s vote.

    “About the only time we get concrete evidence of voter fraud is when someone pulls a stunt like this,” a DoJ spokesman told NBC’s First Read blog.

    Uh, Yeah. Duh. It appears that the DoJ spokesman is commenting on the fact that when a criminal commits a crime he does not then offer to provide “concrete evidence” of the crime to law enforcement, but that “concrete evidence” of a crime usually comes from investigation.

    I expected Holder’s group to ignore this or downplay it in some manner, but to do it so stupidly and clumsily really just points out their conviction that they are above the law and don’t even have to pretend to care. Of all the possible ways to try to duck the issue, this statement is the worst and dumbest they could have come up with.

    (OR, and we really can’t dismiss this possibility, that they are just dumb as dirt.)

    (BTW, the quote came from Newsmax, so an effort to dismiss it as “plagiarism” can now be diverted to dismissing it because of the source. But the source is really NBC’s First Read blog, quoted by Newsmax, quoted by me.)

    • Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 10:56 am

      NBC must be trying to make up for editing the Trayvon Martin 911 call.

      • Amazona April 10, 2012 / 11:26 am

        You mean by printing the idiotic comment from the DoJ, unedited to cover up its idiocy?

        Well, it’s start.

      • neocon1 April 10, 2012 / 3:04 pm


        a little time browsing FBI Crime Stats for 2010(Last year that has been finalized) and made some interesting discoveries.

        90% of blacks are murdered by blacks, and 83% of whites are murdered by whites?

        there are 14.82 murders per 100K by blacks versus 2.17 per 100K for whites?

        Per capita there are 7x more murders committed by blacks than whites.

        this comes directly from the FBI.

  15. Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 11:17 am

    Here’s an article that will make Neocon very happy. And I concur.

    Appearing on the Steve Gill Show on Radio America Monday morning, former presidential candidate and pizza mogul Herman Cain said Florida Rep. Allen West should be Mitt Romney’s pick for vice president.

    “Here’s why: he is well spoken. He is direct. People in Florida love him. He has a huge following. He is from Florida – Florida is going to be one of those key states,” Cain said. “But more importantly, Col. Allen West is a dedicated patriot; he served in the military, and he’s willing to serve his country some more”.

    • Amazona April 10, 2012 / 11:40 am

      I would love to have West on the ticket. I have always liked him a lot, and wished that he had been a more viable presidential candidate. But he just didn’t have the organization or money to make a run at the position.

      In general, I do not think that serving in the House gives enough executive experience to really qualify for the Big Show, but in his case his military background more than makes up for the lack of extensive legislative experience. People don’t realize the breadth and depth of training and experience acquired through a successful career in the military, and I think his overall background would make him a great person to have in the co-pilot’s seat.

      Because I believe that as the world has become so much more complex we need a real team in the White House, not just a boss man and a surrogate to send out to make silly speeches and go to fundraisers.

  16. Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 11:45 am

    I don’t very often post contents of emails I receive, but this one is just so concisely right on:

    It’s incredible that 42% of Americans think that this unqualified, incompetent, dishonorable, ego-driven fraud is doing a good job.

    Take a moment. Admit it to yourself. You know who his supporters are. They are the people that YOU support.

    From now thru November 2012 this should be required weekly or at least monthly reading BY ALL WHO VOTE!!!

    Did you notice who Obama threatened when he wasn’t getting his way on raising the debt ceiling? He threatened to not pay:

    – Social Security Retirees, Military Retirees, Social Security disability and Federal Retirees.-

    – Now..let this sink in really good –

    – He did not threaten to stop payments to illegal aliens

    – He did not threatened to take frivolous benefits such as Internet access away from violent inmates

    – He did not offer to fire some of the thousands of unnecessary federal employees that he hired

    – He did not offer to cut down on his or his wife’s frivolous gallivanting around

    – He did not threaten to not pay the senators and representatives or any of their staff

    – He did not threaten to take benefits away from welfare recipients

    – He did not threaten the food stamp programs

    – He did not threaten to not pay foreign aid

    – He did not threaten to cut back on anything that involves his base voters

    – The list could go on and on. He is in full political re-election mode!

    • Why are we allowing this person to destroy this wonderful country with his selfishness and his lies?

    • His type of change is killing our country. He needs to be stopped and only our votes can stop him.

    • Do not forget about his tactics when it’s election time. Vote Obama out of the Presidency in 2012.


    • Amazona April 10, 2012 / 12:05 pm

      Spook, while I was aware of the “Buy This Magazine Or I’ll Shoot This Dog” approach of Obama (a cultural reference which is also probably completely generational..) modified to “Give Me My Way Or I’ll Starve Grandma [and blame it on the Republicans] ” I had not looked at all the money giveaways he was ignoring or protecting while he was fear-mongering about a few chosen and vulnerable categories.

      He’s really a piece of work, isn’t he?

      As a side note, the other day I was thinking that Obama is a perfect example of what you get when you bring up a spoiled child who has never experienced consequences for his bad decisions and actions and who has probably lived in a bubble where his “self esteem” was promoted above all else.

      His history is one of abandonment by first his father and then his mother, resulting in a life lived with doting grandparents who tried to compensate, for example, by “respecting” his racial heritage by providing him with an adult black male presence in his life, Frank Davis Marshall. He seems to have cruised through life on a carefully paved path, with protections built in along the way. He was a stoner and a slacker in school, yet got into prestigious universities. He never published a paper or an opinion yet was made editor of the Harvard Law Review. He was handed a token job at a big Chicago law firm, and evidently sailed through life on a current of affirmative action, both legal and emotional. He was swept into his current office by a juxtaposition of callous and calculated politicking from the radical Left and starry-eyed idealism from a gullible center, not because of any accomplishments or qualifications.

      He was given the NOBEL PRIZE for what someone thought he might do someday!

      Now he is faced with being held accountable for what he says and does, and he handles it very badly. He is so convinced of his omnipotence that he is oblivious to the messages he sends when he picks his demagogic statements. He doesn’t seem to understand that the whole nation is not his Gram and Gramps, or his racially hypersensitive affirmative action mentors, or any of the people who have covered for him and shielded him from reality.

      So he whines, he blames other people (did you know that George Bush is responsible for the GSA debacle that took place nearly two years after Barry took office ??!!) and he just tells one story here and another story there and then sulks when people compare the stories.

      It will be interesting to see how this list of protected entitlements is spun. Tip to Barry: Don’t have that DoJ spokesman make your excuses for you.

    • dbschmidt April 10, 2012 / 6:31 pm

      Come on Spook,

      “He did not threaten to stop payments to illegal aliens” is minor league in this administration–they actually gave them, IIRC, something called “Unlawful Presence Waivers” whatever that is short of amnesty but I could be mistaken because this President is sooo smart that he was misunderstood “because he is law professor” — “spoke in ‘shorthand’ ” while the DoJ blocks people from reporting to Congress about Fast & Furious but at least O’Keefe said he would be back “so Fast you could not spell Furious” as he had Holder’s primary ballot basically in hand.

      Nope, nothing to see here ~ Move along. Too bad it is serious because this administration is a really bad joke.

  17. Retired Spook April 10, 2012 / 1:26 pm

    Good news and bad news. The good news is that the price of oil is dropping — around 8% in the last week or 10 days, and gasoline prices appear to be following close behind. Locally we’ve dropped from $4.09 to $3.69 in the last week or so. The bad news: the stock market is taking a nose dive — off around 200 so far today, and off around 500 in the last week.

  18. dennis April 10, 2012 / 2:14 pm

    Mark: “The fact, of course, that liberalism once upon a time set out (under Sanger’s Planned Parenthood) to eliminate black people and other ‘undesireables’ just doesn’t enter in to the equation…”

    Welcome back, Mark. It’s interesting in the light of frequent complaints on this blog that liberals misrepresent conservatism, you would claim that liberalism “set out to eliminate black people”. That’s actually a very offensive misrepresentation of known facts.

    Margaret Sanger’s work and legacy are well documented, and she had no interest in eliminating black people. If she had, she wouldn’t have gained the praise and cooperation of W. E. B. Dubois, Martin Luther King and other notable black leaders (DuBois was on the board of her Harlem clinic). Her efforts for birth control were inspired in part by traveling in Asia and seeing infanticide used for family planning in China, which was abhorrent to her.

    Sanger’s family planning efforts always focused on contraception, not abortion. Only after her death did the reproductive rights movement broaden its scope to include abortion rights. She herself opposed abortion and believed life should not be terminated after conception. She wrote, “while there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.”

    Sanger advocated eugenics (by sterilization or segregation) only for the profoundly retarded, not for people of color. She also believed euthanasia was wrong, and denounced the Nazis’ forced eugenics program. She believed responsibility for birth control should lie entirely with parents, not the state. She was a humanitarian, not a utopian. Although she did believe light-skinned people were superior (not an unusual prejudice for her time) she had no tolerance for bigotry, either in practice or in her organization. She worked closely with black and interracial community leaders all through her career.

    Bottom line – your glib assertion of “liberalism” setting out under Sanger or Planned Parenthood “to eliminate black people” is not a fact at all, but a falsehood.

    • dennis April 10, 2012 / 2:34 pm

      As a further aside, I also would note “liberalism” and Sanger and her legacy are quite separate things. However Sanger may be seen by some to embody certain liberal values (such as women’s emancipation), her ideas and motivations regarding birth control, race and an array of other matters were uniquely her own. They can hardly be said to represent political “liberalism” either of her time or today.

      • neocon1 April 10, 2012 / 2:55 pm


        the DEMOCRAT……….KKK, …..planned paranthood, just for a small start….

        This is the kind of BS spewed by Democrats on a daily basis, and unfortunately the media and other so-called watchdogs are so apparently ignorant of American history, Democrats continue to LIE through their teeth to their constituents, and via academia, to our kids. Despite the truth being out there for years, it’s probably not going to explode until some big shot news anchor gives us an “explosive expose” bringing us all those facts first, so he/she can proudly receive a Pulitzer…


      • Amazona April 11, 2012 / 1:37 pm

        dennis, do you mean that Rick Santorum’s ideas and motivations regarding birth control are also uniquely his own and can hardly be said to represent political conservatism? Do you mean that Mitt Romney’s ideas and motivations regarding his religion are also uniquely his own and can hardly be said to represent political conservatism?

        Make up your mind. You either extrapolate a personal belief to represent a political model and by extension all who subscribe to that model, or you admit that a personal belief can be and often is restricted to an individual’s private belief system and goes no father than that.

      • Amazona April 11, 2012 / 1:49 pm

        dennis, you very slyly slip in a falsehood, which is that “woman’s emancipation” (whatever you choose to think that means) was and is a “liberal value”.

        For one thing, you need to define your terms—“liberal” in the dictionary sense of the traditional meaning of the word, or “Liberal” in terms of political ideology? The conflation of the two is proof of the success of the Leftist movement in choosing an identifier that will confuse people and lead them to think that this extremely illiberal political model is somehow noble in its preference for liberal thoughts and values.

        Many who subscribe to 21st Century American Conservatism—that is, the political model of Constitutional government—are at the same time quite liberal in their thinking, if you use the traditional definition of the word instead of the newer political definition. Just as many are far from “conservative” in the traditional use of the word, having quite bold opinions and lifestyles and so on.

        Yes, the emancipation of women, whether you mean allowing them to be considered equal citizens of the nation, able to own property, able to vote, able to hold public office, able to be equally educated, able to compete on a level playing field with men in the workplace, are all “liberal” values, but not in the political sense. Trying to assign credit for these values to a political system which has hijacked the word “liberal” to misleadingly apply it to a very illiberal ideology is very deceptive.

        The thing is, too many people have been sucked into the mistake of first thinking that “liberal” really means “Liberal” and then extrapolating from that that if one is not A Liberal he is, by definition, the very opposite of “liberal”. It’s an easy trap, quite cleverly and successfully set by the masters of manipulation.

      • Amazona April 11, 2012 / 1:53 pm

        Another example of the clever and misleading choice of political labels is that of latching onto “Progressive” to identify a political system that is so radically REgressive the juxtaposition of the label and the reality is quite jarring.

        In LibSpeak, “Progressive” means to go backward, while the traditional meaning of “progress” is to go forward.

        The emotional appeal of a word which allows people to pretend they are advocating forward and upward movement is quite powerful, accounting for the passion of those who proudly identify themselves as “Progressive” while remaining steadfastly ignorant of the actual ideology of the movement, clinging only to the illusion provided by the label.

    • J. R. Babcock April 10, 2012 / 2:46 pm

      Racist line of questionable origin deleted. Please sharpen your research skills next time//Moderator

      • neocon1 April 10, 2012 / 3:14 pm

        I DISAGREE with this……….PC BS

        UPDATE: Miami Marlins manager suspended for saying ‘I love Castro’…

      • dennis April 10, 2012 / 3:20 pm

        JR, do you have a page and paragraph reference? If so I’ll stand corrected. I’ve heard that quote but nobody seems to be able to document where it originated. It’s called a misattribution by most authoritative sources, and in light of all else that is known about her life and associations it’s hard to credit to her.

        Here is what Sanger wrote to Albert Lasker in 1942: “I believe that the Negro question is coming definitely to the fore in America, not only because of the war, but in anticipation of the place the Negro will occupy after the peace. I think it is magnificent that we are in on the ground floor, helping Negroes to control their birth rate, to reduce their high infant and maternal death rate, to maintain better standards of health and living for those already born, and to create better opportunities for those who will be born. In other words, we’re giving Negroes an opportunity to help themselves, and to rise to their own heights through education and the principles of a democracy.” (MS to Lasker, July 9, 1942, MSM S21:404)

        Doesn’t sound like she wanted them exterminated. There’s more background on Sanger and The Negro Project here: http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/secure/newsletter/articles/bc_or_race_control.html

      • neocon1 April 10, 2012 / 3:22 pm

        Repeating of racist line of questionable origin deleted//Moderator

      • J. R. Babcock April 10, 2012 / 4:09 pm

        Sorry about that. The line was from a review at Amazon.com of Sanger’s book, and it appears the reviewer may have just made it up. My bad.

      • neocon1 April 10, 2012 / 4:45 pm

        no it wasnt made up, and it is not a racist line…..it is a fact a sad one at that.

        ‘A Race of Thoroughbreds’?

        The purpose in promoting birth control was “to create a race of thoroughbreds,” she wrote in The Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)

        “More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief aim of birth control.” (Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12)

        The goal of eugenicists is “to prevent the multiplication of bad stocks,” wrote Dr. Ernst Rudin the April 1933 Birth Control Review. Another article exhorted Americans to “restrict the propagation of those physically, mentally and socially inadequate.”

        In Pivot of Civilization, Sanger referred to immigrants and poor folks as “human weeds,” “reckless breeders,” “spawning … human beings who never should have been born.”


        Sanger’s ultimate intention was to do away with all blacks. She admitted, however, that it might be necessary on occasion to employ a few, for appearance sake.

        “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she said, “if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” (Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon)

        In her “Plan for Peace,” Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed “feebleminded.” Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. (Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107)

      • dennis April 10, 2012 / 10:12 pm

        Neocon, it’s not my intent to lionize Margaret Sanger, but many quotes attributed to her by detractors are fabricated. Some were made by others and removed completely from their original context and meaning. She never was about “doing away with blacks” – the statement is absurd on its face, given the decades-long associations she had with so many prominent black people.
        It’s pointless to go through the comments one by one to debunk them – either one is serious about vetting information and understanding facts or not. If you accept everything you read on the Internet as gospel truth, you’ll be spinning like a top. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at NYU (linked above) is a reliable source. Planned Parenthood also answers some of the more egregious claims made about her in a short pamphlet (with sources) here: http://tinyurl.com/79dp7dz

      • neocon1 April 11, 2012 / 9:15 am

        then you are blinder that we thought. I gave two sources that stated her words unequivacovely, she was all for eliminating blacks and others. Hitler and Joe would have proud of her and Satan IS!

        dennis the wolf in sheeps clothing……

      • neocon1 April 11, 2012 / 9:18 am


        Planned Parenthood also answers some of the more egregious claims made about her in a short pamphlet

        yeah and the Nazi and communist partys issue short pamplets answering some of the more egregious claims made about hitler, stalin, mao, fidel, che .

        get real

    • Mark Edward Noonan April 11, 2012 / 10:17 pm

      “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” – Margaret Sanger

      • dennis April 12, 2012 / 12:44 am

        Yes, Mark, those were her words, and as you should well know context is highly relevant. You made a false accusation above and now you’re relying on prejudice to make the inference that she was a racist who wanted to do away with blacks – when even minimal recognition of the bigger picture strongly suggests the opposite. I keep thinking you’re an honest person at heart, and you keep making it harder for me to believe that.

        Sanger reiterated the need for black ministers to head up the project in a letter to Clarence Gamble in Dec. 1939, arguing that: “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” This passage has been repeatedly extracted by Sanger’s detractors as evidence that she led a calculated effort to reduce the black population against their will. From African-American activist Angela Davis on the left to conservative commentator Dinesh D’Souza on the right, this statement alone has condemned Sanger to a perpetual waltz with Hitler and the KKK. Davis quoted the incendiary passage in her 1983 Women, Race and Class, claiming that the Negro Project “confirmed the ideological victory of the racism associated with eugenic ideas.” D’Souza used the quote to buttress erroneous claims that Sanger called blacks “human weeds” and a “menace to civilization” in his best-selling 1995 book The End of Racism. The argument that Sanger co-opted black clergy and community leaders to exterminate their own race not only gives Sanger unwarranted credit as a remarkably cunning manipulator, but also suggests that African-Americans were passive receptors of birth control reform, incapable of making their own decisions about family size; and that black leaders were ignorant and gullible….

        ….Sanger wrote enthusiastically to Albert Lasker in July of 1942 about what she now framed as a pioneering effort: “I believe that the Negro question is coming definitely to the fore in America, not only because of the war, but in anticipation of the place the Negro will occupy after the peace. I think it is magnificent that we are in on the ground floor, helping Negroes to control their birth rate, to reduce their high infant and maternal death rate, to maintain better standards of health and living for those already born, and to create better opportunities for those who will be born. In other words, we’re giving Negroes an opportunity to help themselves, and to rise to their own heights through education and the principles of a democracy.” (MS to Lasker, July 9, 1942, MSM S21:404)


      • dennis April 12, 2012 / 1:12 am

        Was Sanger racially motivated?

        Despite the admiration that African-American heroes like [W. E. B.] DuBois, [Adam Clayton] Powell, and [Martin Luther] King held for Sanger, arguments continue about whether or not her outreach to the black community was racially motivated. The patriarchal racism of the social policy of the time and the well-intentioned paternalism of philanthropists to “lift up” African- Americans, may have influenced Sanger. But there is no evidence that Sanger, or the Federation, intended to coerce black women into using birth control:

        The fundamental belief, underscored at every meeting, mentioned in much of the behind-the scenes correspondence, and evident in all the printed material put out by the Division of Negro Service, was that uncontrolled fertility presented the greatest burden to the poor, and Southern blacks were among the poorest Americans. In fact, the Negro Project did not differ very much from the earlier birth control campaigns in the rural South … it would have been more racist, in Sanger’s mind, to ignore African Americans in the South than to fail at trying to raise the health and economic standards of their communities. (“Birth Control or Race Control,” 2001).


        Once again I’m not trying to lionize Sanger here so much as to emphasize that a responsible examination of her legacy must consider the attitudes of her day and the pioneering aspect of her work. The mere fact that she immersed herself in their culture and formed long-term working relationships with black community leaders to bring some aspect of self-determination to poor black families is notable. You just don’t find many racists or advocates of genocide doing that – nor do you find iconic leaders like MLK and Ghandi praising their efforts.

        And you think that somehow your discernment of her motives, all these decades removed, is somehow superior to theirs, who were her contemporaries, and you’re able to pass judgment on Sanger on your little blog here? Jeez, Mark I had hoped you’d come back a more reflective person after all that time you’ve had to consider your place in the scheme of things.

        Bottom line, your accusation that “liberalism” through Sanger’s organization was trying to “eliminate black people” is compromised to the point that you should be embarrassed, if you’re actually capable of embarrassment.

      • Amazona April 12, 2012 / 2:07 am


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