Ed Schultz’s Campaign for Wisconsin

For those of you who don’t know Ed Schultz, he’s one of Cluster’s favorite comedians, broadcasting his ever-so-popular show from that dynamic comedy channel, MSNBC. The indomitable Schultz is waging a one-man campaign to save Wisconsin from the evil Scott Walker.  I say “one-man” because pretty much everyone else in the lame-street media has abandoned the effort.  But if it’s one thing that ol’ Ed lacks it’s shame and the capacity to be embarrassed.

Now that Wisconsin isn’t collapsing, and in fact is seeing a dramatic economic improvement, it’s somehow no longer Hosni Mubarak’s Egypt, and the liberal networks have pretty much stayed away. But Schultz keeps pounding away in a panic, lamenting that not only is Walker “the worst governor in the country,” but that those evil Republicans and their capitalist funders like the Koch brothers are “trying to make it so Barack Obama doesn’t get re-elected and no Democrat ever will be elected into the White House.” Schultz warned, “There’ll never be a Democratic president in our lifetime again.  And when I say in our lifetime, I’m talking about a long, long, long, long, long time.”

We’ll find out in about 3-1/2 days whether or not  Ed’s singular efforts have been successful.  It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in either case.

Hat-tip to Cluster for the link for this post


73 thoughts on “Ed Schultz’s Campaign for Wisconsin

  1. neocon1 June 2, 2012 / 10:07 am

    But if it’s one thing that ol’ Ed DEMOC-RATS lacks it’s shame and the capacity to be embarrassed.

    communists, perverts, and simpletons never do get insulted.

    • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 9:00 am

      Note to donkRATS

      Debt Has Increased More in Last 15 Months Than First 97 Congresses — Combined!

      what was Bmitch saying about the middle class??

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 9:06 am

        PURE FILTH

        Liberal Wis. Group Sends Voters Names and Addresses of Their Neighbors to Shame Them Into Voting in Recall

        “After the June 5th election, public records will tell everyone who voted and who didn’t.”

        the brown shirts at work in AmeriKa

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:13 am

        I saw that too neo, and can you imagine if a conservative group had done that? The left is becoming more unhinged by the day, and expect that too accelerate when Walker wins, and they start to realize that Obama is going to lose too.

      • Retired Spook June 3, 2012 / 9:29 am

        and they start to realize that Obama is going to lose too.

        Cluster, don’t you think that explains why most of our resident Lefties have abandoned ship in the last few months? I think a lot of Progressive foot soldiers realize they’re fighting a losing battle. About all we’ve got left are Prozac addicts like Mitch and the loonie-tunes folks from the Fork. It’s rather nice to only have to clean the troll sh*t out of my keyboard every 3 or 4 days instead of 2 or 3 times a day.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:36 am

        Agreed, but I am hoping we can begin to attract more sensible liberals who actually stand for something other than emotional hatred. I am just learning of this book by Mann & Ornstein and this book is part of the problem. They actually just said on MSNBC, that much of the opposition to Obama is because he is black. Can you believe that?

        I am sick and tired of these liberals and wish I could debate them myself.

      • Retired Spook June 3, 2012 / 9:46 am

        Agreed, but I am hoping we can begin to attract more sensible liberals who actually stand for something

        I’ll bite — just what, exactly, does a “sensible Liberal” stand for? I can’t recall in the 8+ years I’ve been here that one has ever surfaced. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I don’t believe I’ve ever met one. One of the hallmarks of Liberals is that they almost universally lack common sense.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:53 am

        Well true, but a boy can dream right? LOL Maybe I stated that incorrectly, I am hoping that more liberals like ricorun would frequent the blog, or even barstool who actually made some sense from time to time. My hope is too knock some common sense in them, a trait of which is sorely lacking amongst all liberals.

        Chris Hayes on MSNBC is actually saying that if Walker wins, unions will become extinct, and that Walker has received millions in outside corporate interests without once mentioning the millions of dollars pumped in by unions. So honesty is also a trait sorely lacking in liberals.

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 10:35 am

        One of the hallmarks of Liberals is that they almost universally lack common sense.

        and easily seen in Americas inner citys and the tens of millions of Mexican peasants who are here illegally. The plantation and OPM coupled with marxism will be the destruction of the greatest country in the history of the world.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:42 am

        Michael Steele just bought into the racist meme. Oh Lord. How can conservatives debate with liberals when liberals start from false premises, and only focus on identity and personality. It’s like debating an emotionally unstable child.

      • tiredoflibbs June 3, 2012 / 9:39 am

        neo did you read the article?

        It was a hit piece to solely place blame on the Republican House for the debt and not the obAMATEUR and the Democrats. You know, the ones that complain that the Republicans do not want to reach across the aisle.

        Using the logic of the ever present obAMATEUR ass-kissing media, then the deficits of Ronald Reagan that the proggies are always bitching about and the Clinton surpluses that the proggies are also praising can be placed on the DEMOCRAT HOUSE and REPUBLICAN HOUSE respectively.

        But don’t expect the sycophant obAMATEUR media, whose sole purpose is to keep him in office and elect more proggies to the House and Senate will never make the consistent comparison.

        Also, don’t expect them to report anything negative of the obAMATEUR (unless they can paint him as a victim). As I said, their objectivity is gone and their sole mission is to get him reelected.


      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:58 am

        There is no question that this is the most important election of our lifetime. If people like Pelosi and Obama retain power, our republic and the America we use to know, is in peril.

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 10:26 am

        And I thought they only ate DOG….well except for Ubamas Miami son who ate a bums face.

        Alex Jones Believes Bilderberg Attendees Ship in Gold-Covered Roasted Babies to Eat

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 10:54 am

        Ubama n rhomabama utopia…….

        Chicago more dangerous than Baghdad?
        Chicago Tribune ^ | 03 june 2012 |

        Ten people were killed and 42 others were wounded in shootings over the Memorial Day weekend. In Baghdad? Basra? Kabul? Kandahar?

        No, right here in Chicago. Over the holiday weekend, our city was like a Wild West shooting gallery, with blood flowing in the streets.

        And yet, one of the major news stories was about the desperate search for Tank, the Pomeranian who fell off a boat into the Chicago River and was later found safe on the City’s North Side by good Samaritans.

        coming to a city near you this summer….

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 11:00 am

        2 dead, 15 wounded in shootings across the city
        Chicago Tribune ^ | June 3, 2012 | By Peter Nickeas

        A 16-year-old boy was shot and killed in a dispute over a bicycle Saturday afternoon on the South Side, authorities said, and another man was killed in West Humboldt Park late Saturday night.

        Fifteen others were shot and survived Saturday night and Sunday morning, police said.

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 11:14 am

        There are many ways. Here’s one. Make man feel small. Make him feel guilty. Kill his aspiration and his integrity. That’s difficult. The worst among you gropes for an ideal in his own twisted way. Kill integrity by internal corruption. Use it against itself. Direct it toward a goal destructive of all integrity. Preach selflessness. Tell man that he must live for others. Tell men that altruism is the ideal. Not a single one of them has ever achieved it and not a single one ever will. His every living instinct screams against it. But don’t you see what you accomplish? Man realizes that he’s incapable of what he’s accepted as the noblest virtue—and it gives him a sense of guilt, of sin, of his own basic unworthiness. Since the supreme ideal is beyond his grasp, he gives up eventually all ideals, all aspiration, all sense of his personal value. He feels himself obliged to preach what he can’t practice. But one can’t be good halfway or honest approximately. To preserve one’s integrity is a hard battle. Why preserve that which one knows to be corrupt already? His soul gives up its self-respect. You’ve got him. He’ll obey. He’ll be glad to obey—because he can’t trust himself, he feels uncertain, he feels unclean. That’s one way.


      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 11:26 am

        Enough of the gay-bashing. We are not bigots and we will not tolerate bigotry including homosexual bigotry. No more or you will have all your posts deleted. //Moderator

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 11:31 am


        In Defiance Of US Justice Department, Florida To Continue Voter Purge

        Florida state officials will continue their quest to purge purportedly ineligible people from voter-registration rolls, a representative of Secretary of State Ken Detzner said Saturday, in defiance of objections from the U.S. Justice Department and county officials who say the policy violates two federal voting laws.

        On Thursday, T. Christian Herren Jr., the head of the Justice Department’s voting section, said the effort to remove voters appears to violate the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which outlaws discriminatory voting practices that disenfranchise minorities. On a list of almost 2,700 voters the state suspects are noncitizens, blacks and Latinos were disproportionately represented, according to an analysis by the Miami Herald, which concluded Democratic and independent voters are the most likely to be targeted.

        Despite the warning, Detzner’s representative said on Saturday the state intends to go forward with its campaign. “We have a year-round obligation to ensure the integrity of Florida’s elections.

        We will be responding to (the Justice Department’s) concerns next week,” FUBO and YOU holder.!!!!!

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 5:26 am

        I’ll remind time magazine and the maker of the video….dont shoot the messenger.

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 6:18 am

        Changing Times: Courts Rule Calling Someone ‘Gay’ Is Not Slanderous

        “Saying that someone is gay is not an insult.”

        You have a history of saying outrageous and bigoted things and then running backward with excuses for why they are not outrageous and bigoted. We are not stupid. From your use of racially motivated comments to your claims of President Obama’s alleged homosexuality your intent is clear and we will not tolerate it. You could at least be man enough to admit what you have been doing, apologize, and promise to stop. Your claims that what you say is not offensive are offensive. Do not play your childish games here. //Moderator

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 11:02 am
      • Retired Spook June 3, 2012 / 11:30 am

        Nothing is ever really new, is it, Neo? Both sides keep recycling ideas from the past. The difference is that Liberals keep trying things that have never worked and keep saying “this time it will be different”, while Conservatives keep trying things that have worked and say, “how can we improve on them? How can we adapt successful ideas from the past to a modern world?”

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 11:34 am

        you are correct. that is why the left needs legions of dumbed down robots living in huge dumps called innercitys and tens of millions of illegal peasants swarming into our country.

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 12:29 pm

        The Wisconsin branch of the American Federation of Teachers has lost some 6,000 of its 17,000 members. And membership in the state’s chapter of AFSCME has plummeted from nearly 63,000 to just 29,000 in just one year. It’s not hard to understand why labor sees these reforms as such a threat and why they see the recall as so important. And yet Obama, if he’s wearing comfortable shoes, is doing so everywhere other than Wisconsin

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 12:50 pm


        Stunning Democrat Hypocrisy
        Russ Vaughn

        Once again the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party is stunning in its display. Over at Breitbart, Mike Flynn is reporting that the party that is horrified at the prospect of American voters being required to show photo identification has included this little gem of a requirement in the program for the Massachusetts Democratic Convention which convenes today:

        Registration and Credentials


        Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/06/stunning_democrat_hypocrisy.html#ixzz1wkXrJxy9

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 5:43 am

        Pontiff says family values are key to escaping modern ills…

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 9:47 am

        A new poll finds Republican Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker with a narrowed lead over Democratic challenger Tom Barrett ahead of Tuesday’s recall vote.

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 9:58 am

        what others say….

        To: chickadee
        She be talking Ebonics: “You gots to go!” “You is” and so on. What an ingorant *ss.

        Sad…..Black America adrift at sea!!! God help them, lost souls that they have become!!!

        4 posted on Monday, June 04

      • neocon1 June 4, 2012 / 10:02 am

        Neil Boortz will announce on his program this morning that he will be retiring in January. He will pass his seat over to longtime friend Herman Cain

      • tiredoflibbs June 3, 2012 / 2:05 pm

        Where’s Al, Jesse and obAMATEUR claiming that this boy (not a racist term but one of gender) “could be his son”????

        I guess shootings like this don’t bleed enough for the national news….


      • tiredoflibbs June 4, 2012 / 9:23 am


        Now Princess Pelosi and Steny Hoyer are blaming the OBSTRUCTIONIST GOP for the ills of the economy. Both went on the offensive stating that GOP INACTION is the cause for the Barak obAMATEUR’s failure.

        So if the GOP is OBSTRUCTIONIST and INACTIVE how can they also claim that they are responsible for the debt!?!

        It is all so confusing……..

        …. or are they just lying and looking to place blame upon others instead of looking in the mirror.

        And what is worse, mindless drones like mitchie, denny and velma can’t see the obvious.

  2. J. R. Babcock June 2, 2012 / 10:27 am

    David Limbaugh put the Wisconsin recall in perspective in his column yesterday.

  3. Cluster June 2, 2012 / 10:41 am

    I saw an interview with Scott Walker last night and this guy could not be more gracious during this attack on his governance. He is also staying away from personally attacking his opponent, or demonizing the movement to oust him, and instead is running strictly on his record (imagine that!) – a record of which has result in 50,000+ jobs created in 2011, and not only a balanced budget, but a small surplus, which has been put into a rainy day fund. On top of that, not one, NOT A SINGLE UNION MEMBER, has been laid off, yet the liberals would have you believe that Wisconsin is making them work for minimum wage.

    Liberal dishonesty on this issue is shameful.

    • Retired Spook June 2, 2012 / 12:28 pm

      Walker comes across as a genuinely nice guy, while his opponents are shrill and nasty. Hopefully that stark contrast is not lost on Wisconsin voters next Tuesday.

    • john raymond June 5, 2012 / 11:24 pm

      with the new governor david koch just gtve it some time before it some time before they will be working for minimum wage

      • Amazona June 6, 2012 / 9:05 am

        I know, I know. I, for one, am in line for tickets for David Koch’s installation as the true King Of Wisconsin—forget all that silly “governor” crap, when one can actually RULE!

        But then I want my turn, as I too sent money to support the fight to keep national unions from taking over the government of a state. I only did it in the interest of protecting state sovereignty, but gee, if contributing to a cause lets you be in charge, put me down for the first week in August.

        As for “..give it some time before it some time before…” these poor union workers are forced to work for mere pennies, I’m curious about how Wisconsin is going to be so different from other right-to-work (that is, not controlled by corrupt unions) states where skilled workers are not held to minimum wage standards.

        Is King Koch going to abruptly slash all wages and salaries?

        You people are so silly, you don’t even realize how utterly stupid you sound.

        Or that we realize that the union hold on workers has been due to coercion and the ability to take dues out of paychecks. The REAL reason you guys are whimpering in the corner muttering about how UNFAAAIIIIRRRRRRRRR this all is, is that now you have to deal with the reality that union money will now depend on people who CHOOSE to pay union dues, and is no longer simply confiscated.

        Awwwww, so sad……………..

  4. Amazona June 2, 2012 / 10:41 am

    I wonder how many lower-case libs, people who voted for Obama but who lack the seething rage and hostility that mark the rabid Libs and Psuedo-Libs, have wondered just why so many millions of dollars, so much time and effort and manpower, have all been funneled into Wisconsin.

    It jumps right out at me, this national effort to step in and override the will of the people of a state. This recall effort did not come from within Wisconsin, it is not funded by people from Wisconsin, it is not manned by people from Wisconsin, but is merely the determination of a specific group of people—-radical Leftists—–to force their will upon the state.

    I would expect people from every state in the Union to look at this and see it as a warning, as what they can expect if they have the temerity to try to run their own state the way they want it run. I would expect thinking people all over the country to see this as a harbinger of what it would be like, regarding state sovereignty, if these radicals were to gain more federal power.

    And the fact that not one in the Complicit Agenda Media has commented on this is quite alarming. Here we are, living through one of the most glaring examples of any effort to run roughshod over states’ rights, to impose the will of a small but powerful and well-funded group upon a whole state and tell it how it will be run and who will run it, and the supposed Free Press of the United States is mute.

    • mitchethekid June 2, 2012 / 3:45 pm

      Your delusion is boundless and your disconnect from reality awe inspiring. Last time I checked, only residents of a state can vote for that state’s issues. So your assumption about outside forces being behind the recall effort is absurd. More Wisconsin residents voted to recall Walker than voted for him as governor. It is Walker himself who is on the receiving end of outside money, namely from the Koch brothers. It is also Walkers former campaign staff members who are under indictment from the FBI for campaign donation fraud. Furthermore, this recall extends to members of the Wisconsin State Senate, and all that is needed is for one Democrat to win the recall and then it won’t matter if Walker survives or not. He will no longer control the Senate. Walker himself is the beneficiary of a recall! He is, like so many other corporate owned right wing extremist governors, right wing scum hell bent on destroying the middle class so that they become totally dependent on their employers and completely powerless.
      As an aside, how about George Zimmerman? Bail revoked for lying. So much for his creditability! Have a nice time in prison George. Don’t drop the soap!

      • Cluster June 2, 2012 / 4:32 pm

        Ed Schultz is that you? LOL

        Thanks Mitch for chiming in. Always refreshing to hear from an OWS member.

        Question Mitch – Have union salaries dropped? Have any union members lost their jobs?

        Will just start with those two for now. Have a nice day.

      • GMB June 2, 2012 / 4:59 pm

        Wonder why over two thirds of those “oppressed” public union members in Wisconsin quit paying dues. How could that be?

        “Don’t drop the soap!”?? My guess is that you are wishing misfortune on Mr.Zimmerman. Just how much physical pain do you wish on another human without even have gone to trial yet.

        Thks for one thing though. Your staement gives proff that there is very little “tolerance” in the rank and file donkyrat. Just another hypocrite masquerading as a “liberal”

        Tell me fumduck, have you figured out the difference between a U.S. Government tail number and a Civil Aviation registration number yet?

        Bombs way!!

      • Amazona June 2, 2012 / 5:18 pm

        “Last time I checked, only residents of a state can vote for that state’s issues”

        And just when WAS the last time you checked, mitche?

        To sign the recall petition, all you had to do was claim to live in the precinct where you signed. No photo ID was necessary, no proof of residence. There were plenty of stories about people, particularly union people, flooding into the state to sign petitions. The fact is, it would take millions to cross-check and confirm residency for every signer, and even the signatures of Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse were not removed from the petitions.

        So “..Wisconsin RESIDENTS..” voted to recall Walker? For one thing, the election hasn’t even been held yet. Nice grasp of the nuances of political structure, there, mitche. No, people claiming to be Wisconsin residents, with no proof of same, not necessarily even registered to vote in Wisconsin, signed petitions to try to get a recall on the ballot than voted for Walker. Now I guess we can just wait and see how the votes go, particularly if this turns into a King County election where more votes are cast than the number of registered voters.

        “…..corporate owned right wing extremist governors, right wing scum hell bent on destroying the middle class so that they become totally dependent on their employers and completely powerless.”

        Wow. Nice objective political analysis, there, mitche.

        But the only ones whining are the public employees, and isn’t one of the goals of “fundamentally transforming” this nation to make as many as possible dependent on their employer—in this case the federal government?

        “Destroying the middle class” by lowering their property taxes, increasing the number of jobs available, and sparing their children and grandchildren the burden of crippling debt. Ooooooh—-scary. Just watch that machinery of destruction do its dirty deeds!!!!

        How about policy? How about results? No, as usual you define politics as what your tiny little mind finds alluring, which is scandal (real or not, you don’t care) and personality and the opportunity to vent your considerable stockpile of irrational hatred.

        Please do hurry back. If we were to invent posts like yours, we would be accused of sliming the Left. It is so much more productive, as well as entertaining, to see you slime yourselves.

      • tiredoflibbs June 2, 2012 / 5:19 pm

        mitchiethekidlikedrone: ” Last time I checked, only residents of a state can vote for that state’s issues.”

        Uh, yeah, but no one said to the contrary. Ed Schultz tried to use his radio show to get people and union members OUTSIDE of the state to send money to the effort in Wisconsin, go and volunteer in Wisconsin, etc. etc. for the recall effort.

        Schultz wanted forces from outside the state to help with the recall effort and campaign against Walker.

        Is that too simple for you? Outside effort can influence an election. It is too bad you do have the mentality of a “kid”. Maybe you should stay away from complex issues.

        I see you are better at mindlessly regurgitating simple slogans and chanting – you know, “hope and change”, “yes we can”, “FORWARD!”, etc. etc. – that is more your speed.

      • Cluster June 2, 2012 / 6:08 pm

        Wait a minute – was Mitch advocating for voter ID? Claiming that only WI residents can vote. Wow.

      • Retired Spook June 2, 2012 / 6:10 pm

        More Wisconsin residents voted to recall Walker than voted for him as governor.

        Geez, Mitch, if you’re going to lie about something, as least lie about something that can’t be easily checked. First of all, Wisconsin residents signed recall petitions; they didn’t vote. Second, there were 900,938 signatures to recall Walker, and he received 1,128,941 votes for Governor in 2010.

      • neocon1 June 3, 2012 / 8:57 am


        He is, like so many other corporate owned right wing extremist governors, right wing scum hell bent on destroying the middle class so that they become totally dependent on their employers and completely powerless.

        ROTFLMAO…..complete delusion and projection.

        As an aside, how about George Zimmerman?
        the racist witch hunt continues against a good dumbocrat and Uboma supporter. I’ll bet he is soooo glad to have that D after his name…LOL

  5. Cluster June 2, 2012 / 12:38 pm

    Off topic, but another do as I say, not as I do liberal:

    Elizabeth Warren, who has railed against predatory banks and heartless foreclosures, took part in about a dozen Oklahoma real estate deals that netted her and her family hefty profits through maneuvers such as “flipping” properties, records show.

    Doesn’t Elizabeth realize that struggling, hard working Americans built those homes that she so callously profits on?

    • Ricorun June 3, 2012 / 12:08 am

      Flipping properties is a very lucrative business. I think Cluster will agree on that point. And really, what’s wrong with it? I can think of several reasons, on several layers, why it isn’t bad. Sure, there are unscrupulous individuals in any sector of the economy. But the “flippers”, and those who feed off them, are not responsible for the malfeasance of the issuers of the bad loans, the reprobate guarantors of those loans, or the impossible hopes of those struggling, hard working Americans who were sucked into accepting their baloney. But the bottom line is: the faster we can clear the excess inventory the better off we’ll be. And take it from me (well, you could but you don’t have to), some of these properties are in very bad shape. It’s a lot of work to separate the good from the bad, and even more to disentangle the legal encumbrances. And sometimes you make mistakes. But still, if you’re willing to work hard, and get good people to work for you, you can make a very pretty penny. Once you succeed in developing your staff (and that does take a while — and of course you’re never REALLY sure, so you always have stay on top of things), you can do a considerable amount of what you need to do by the pool, or in the garden, in your robe and slippers (so to speak) smelling the flowers, showering attention on your grandchildren, and working to make sure that the advantages you’re currently enjoying (which, again, were caused by the excesses of those responsible for the housing bubble) cannot be enjoyed for the same reasons you’re experiencing them, ever again. I hope I am wrong, but there appears to be little reason to hold one’s breath on that last account.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:05 am


        Good to see you, I hope you would come by more often. I actually do hope to attract brighter liberals to this blog for some more intelligent debate, and you are one of the few that fit into that category.

        I also have flipped quite a few homes over the last several years and it can be lucrative but does have some risk, as you noted. But that is not the point with Elizabeth. You see, Ms. Warren takes it upon herself to lecture everyone else on societal perils of profiting on the misfortunes of others, ie; predatory lenders, “Republicans balancing the budget on the backs of the poor”, oil companies raising prices, etc, etc, yet she engages in what can easily be argued as much of the same practice when she charges exorbitant interest, and resales for double digit profits. So keep in mind, it’s not the practice I am in opposition of, it’s the hypocrisy.

        Now you did allude to predatory lending, stating “the malfeasance of the issuers of those bad loans”. I want to point out two things: the federal government incentivized the issuance of those bad loans with fed money, and no one held a gun to the head of those who gleefully signed those loans anticipating moving into their brand new home. It is more incumbent for the federal government to stay out of the mortgage business and for consumers to be responsible with their money, than it is for issuers to assure that their loans are “acceptable” to the critics. Caveat emptor.

      • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 10:59 am

        I agree, rico, there is nothing wrong with flipping properties. On the contrary, I think it’s great. It is like recycling, on a much bigger scale, saving homes that would otherwise be torn down (or stand decrepit, dragging down housing values around them and being eyesores and then hazards) or moving houses up a notch into habitable and usually attractive dwellings. No problem there.

        The silly comment about predatory lending caught my eye, but Cluster addressed it better than I could.

        Which led me to a little thought detour: What is it about the Left that makes it so eager to portray their own as incompetent, stupid, easily led and manipulated, intellectually inhibited by race, and generally clueless and inept sheeple?

        OK, the easily led and manipulated part is proved by the fact that these people ARE Lefties, but still….

        They come right out and tell us that these poor dumb people couldn’t be expected to see though the false promises of the Snidely Whiplash lenders swarming around them to lure them into borrowing money the lenders knew could never be repaid. (As you can see, the premise is based not only on gullibility and stupidity of the borrower but on the assumption that lenders have suddenly, en masse, decided that lending money to people who could repay it was a poorer business model than lending money to people who couldn’t. It’s a complicated premise.)

        Anyway, the Left has no problem in telling us that we simply should not expect these people to understand that if they couldn’t make a house payment last year, and there is no reason to expect to be making more money this year or next year, they still won’t be able to make a house payment in two or three years when the interest rates go up. We are told that they simply could not be expected to understand the relationship between interest rates and mortgage payments, or any of what they are told when they apply for a loan or sign for a loan.

        We are told they are not very bright, and need to be protected by Big Brother from making stupid mistakes because they lack the intelligence to take care of themselves.

        It’s an interesting strategy, but one that seems to work pretty well, as I have not heard of any of these people standing up and saying “Wait a minute——you just called me stupid!!” They just shuffle along muttering “Yep, yep, I’m that dumb all right. Yep, yep, I can’t be allowed to make my own decisions. Yep, yep, I’ll hurt myself if my Leftist minders aren’t there to protect me and make my decisions for me.”

  6. tiredoflibbs June 2, 2012 / 12:49 pm

    As Ed Schultz demonstrates time and again, he is a mindless, talking point regurgitating drone. He regurgitates the same crap about taxes (rich need to pay their fair share), debt (obAMATEUR has been fiscally conservative), Iraq, the mortgage crisis (Bush’s deregulation), health care (will save money and pay down the deficit), etc. etc. no matter what facts have been revealed to the contrary.

    Ed Schultz is far from a journalist. He is the dumbest man on radio.

    • Cluster June 2, 2012 / 12:53 pm

      He could be the dumbest man anywhere, period. One little unknown fact is that the unions have given Schultz upwards of $200,000 for promoting their cause, yet you’ll never hear that in the MSM. It is time to expunge ourselves and this country of liberals.

      • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 11:05 am

        Schultz’s stupidity doesn’t bother me as much as his toxicity. The man oozes hostility and poison when he isn’t speaking (which is not often) but when he opens his mouth he becomes a supernova of such a toxic brew of lies, rage and toxicity that it’s hard for me to understand why anyone would expose himself to that.

        Which is why I have come to the conclusion that there are some whose pathologies need this kind of mental and emotional poison to feed upon, and who crave the validation given to them by the Left to spew it out themselves by allowing them to think it is merely political commentary.

  7. Cluster June 2, 2012 / 12:50 pm

    Another POS liberal:

    FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST: (to Manny Pacquio) You know, there are reports, your Forbes magazine, other places say you make tens maybe more millions of dollars, $40 million one year. Philippines is a very poor country. Do you think that there is some, there is something wrong with somebody, with somebody in the Philippines making that much money when people are starving in your country?

    Geez, I don’t know Fareed, you make a lot of money and there are Americans starving in your city – is that right? Have we all had enough of liberals yet?

  8. tiredoflibbs June 2, 2012 / 12:54 pm

    As I said mindless drone:

    Search these topics (links would put my post in the “pending” list):
    Ed Schultz Lies About Bush Tax Cuts Seconds After Saying ‘Republicans Make Stuff Up’

    Ed Schultz Lets Slide Obvious Lie About Scott Walker From Union Boss Leo Gerard

    …or simply “Ed Schultz Lies”

  9. Cluster June 3, 2012 / 9:32 am

    Here’s a good example with what’s wrong with politics. There’s a new book out by Mann & Ornstein pointing the finger at republicans stating that republicans refuse to cooperate citing the CFP and Obamacare as two examples. It’s hard to believe I actually have to point this out to these two rocket scientists, but we object any compromise on those two issues, because those two programs are good examples of government run amock. The CFP is just another democrat government program that will employee cronies and accomplish nothing. We have anti trust laws in place that are more than adequate to handle consumer protection and Obamacare is probably the worst piece of legislation ever written.

    Liberals have become too stupid, and too dangerous to govern, and it is time we shed ourselves, and our country of them.

    • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 11:14 am

      It all comes back to the total ignorance of the ideology of the two political models.

      When all you do is paddle around on the surface of politics, and all you seek is the ability to make a little splash or two, books like this one probably seem to make sense.

      But if you have either the intellect or the integrity to actually research and understand the underlying ideology of each system, then you can understand that while there can be compromises on issues that do not violate the underlying ideology, people cannot simply vote against their core beliefs.

      The manipulative Left is brilliant at setting up either/or paradigms, and then manipulating facts to make them appear to be what they are not.

      They set up a situation in which the only way to work with them is to violate our own core political values, ignore and lie about our efforts to find a middle ground where the results can be achieved without violating Constitutional law, and then trumpet the fact that we would not abandon the core beliefs that form our entire political system.

      They call it “compromise” but what they demand is capitulation.

  10. Retired Spook June 3, 2012 / 10:11 am

    Nothing is really off-topic in this election season, but from the Boo-Frickin’-Hoo file:

    CNN Lost Half Its Audience in Past Year

    CNN in May suffered its worst month for ratings in nearly 20 years, according to Nielsen figures, and has lost 50 percent of its audience in the past 12 months.

    The cable network pioneered 24-hour news in the 1980s and for years was the top-rated news channel, but it has lost audience to Fox News and MSNBC in recent years and now lags both competitors in attracting viewers.

    CNN’s average audience in May fell to 388,000, with only 113,000 in the 25-54 age bracket that advertisers covet. Fox’s average was 1.65 million, and MSNBC’s was 658,000.

    “It’s really a bloodletting — there’s no other way to describe it,” said Robert Thompson, professor of television and popular culture at Syracuse University.

    “They are trying to stick to old-fashioned, unbiased news broadcasting when their rivals have worked out that to draw an audience when there aren’t major stories breaking you need to do the opposite.” (from the “you-can’t-make-this-sh*t-up” file)

    Piers Morgan, who was hired 18 months ago for the 9 p.m. hour, drew an average of 417,000 viewers in May, the worst ratings for that slot since the early 1990s, according to The Independent, a London-based website. When he took over in early 2011, his predecessor in that slot, Larry King, was averaging around 600,000 viewers.

    CNN anchor Anderson Cooper has lost a quarter of his viewers in the past 12 months, and ratings for Wolf Blitzer’s two-hour “Situation Room” are down by more than half.

    • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 10:15 am

      Piers Morgan is unbiased, old fashioned news??? Again, how do you debate with people that think this way?

      • Retired Spook June 3, 2012 / 10:31 am

        The last time I watched CNN voluntarily (other than in a waiting room or at someone else’s house) was the night, about 10 years ago, when Judy Woodruff broke into tears because she had to say something nice about George Bush. I have, however, seen video clips of Piers Morgan and interviews in other venues, and “unbiased” is not a word that comes to mind.

        What’s interesting is that the article says CNN has lost viewers to Fox News AND MSNBC, while this article says:

        MSNBC, meanwhile, has experienced a double digit drop this May. The network saw 674,000 total primetime viewers, with 216,000 viewers in the coveted age 25-54 demographic.

        I especially loved this last line:

        MSNBC continues to be the #2 most-watched cable news network, right behind Fox News.

        Yeah, about 70% “right behind”. Too funny. MSNBC and CNN — taking the main out of mainstream.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 10:45 am

        taking the main out of mainstream.

        LOL. Great line.

      • Cluster June 3, 2012 / 11:18 am

        Currently on MSNBC, the conversation is about the “attacks” on labor in WI. So evidently asking union members to contribute a little more to their own benefit programs is attacking them.

        No wonder that channel is losing viewers.

    • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 11:25 am

      ““They are trying to stick to old-fashioned, unbiased news broadcasting….”

      He could be lying. But it is also possible that because he sees everything through the emotional prism of his pseudo-political convictions he actually believes that what they produce is really “..old-fashioned unbiased news broadcasting…”

      As Bernie Goldberg has said, these guys don’t necessarily wake up every morning and say “How can I lie to the American public today?” This is how they see things. This is their perspective. And what does not fit into this perspective is simply dismissed as not-real and therefore not deserving of attention or reporting.

      The Schultzes of the world are whores, who will say what they are paid to say and have no interest in whether it is true or not.

      The Brokaws might have started off with dignity and integrity but have become so twisted by their emotional antipathy toward what they see as an enemy that they can justify what they do with the equivalent of “fake but accurate”.

      But I think many truly believe that what they put out IS the truth, IS “unbiased” because they have, by the time they get to their 40s and 50s, uncritically accepted so much crap about the Right, so many lies, so much propaganda, that they simply do not question it.

      I don’t think Diane Sawyer sits in her dressing room working out how to inject her own biases, or overt lies, into an interview. I think she truly believes that her emotional reaction to what represents opposition or contradiction to what she “believes” IS the truth, that her squinching up her face and lowering her voice and furrowing that brow into ravines of distress as she oh-so-sincerely questions a statement or belief with which she does not agree is not manipulation of fact but actually EXPOSING FALSEHOOD.

  11. mitchethekid June 3, 2012 / 5:44 pm

    Oh yahh yahh cry babies. This website has what, 4 or 5 people? You’re doomed to the 300 million of the rest of us.

    • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 6:48 pm

      “300 million of the rest of..” WHO?

      There are approximately 300 million people in the United States, of whom only about 20% identify themselves as Liberal, and I’m betting that not more than 10% of those, at the very most, can even define “Liberal”.

      If people so passionate about their feelings that they feel compelled to search out conservative blogs on which to vent their hostility and malice still can’t define their own political philosophy, we can hardly expect 60 million people who self-identify as Liberal but who don’t go to the trouble to infest blogs to attack conservatives to care enough to research Liberalism and be able to define it and defend it on its merits.

      It’s so funny to watch poor impotent mitche flail around, indignant as all get-out about reading stuff he doesn’t like but so unable to respond with anything of substance. I have a feeling this level of ignorance and emotion describe an awful lot of these 60 million—many of whom, by the way, are realizing that the system they have been identifying as their own choice is a miserable failure and maybe they need to re-evaluate their political compasses.

      Nice math. Evidently you learned math the same place you learned what the word “vote” means.

    • Amazona June 3, 2012 / 6:50 pm

      Evidently poor impotent mitche is fantasizing about what these alleged 300 million people are going to do to us, to “doom” us, since he can’t do anything but bleat and moan and hurl silly little insults.

      Interesting that he views his fantasy victory over conservatism (which he also can’t define) as being “doomed” by his fellow Liberals.

    • tiredoflibbs June 3, 2012 / 8:58 pm

      Many on the left are disillusioned with obAMATEUR.

      With the “hope and change”, “yes we can” slogans people on the left were sucked into “the moment” as well as many independents.

      Mostly on the left they wanted:
      – out of Iraq
      – out of Afghanistan
      – GITMO closed
      – “getting tough” on Wall Street
      – “getting tough” on bankers
      – single payer health care

      to name a few….

      What they got?


      … even members of MOVE-ON.org are “leaving him behind”.


      Try again, mitchie. We know you are the mindless drone that obAMATEUR depends on, but the only one here crying is you.

  12. Ricorun June 3, 2012 / 10:33 pm

    [tap… tap… tap…] hello?

    • Cluster June 4, 2012 / 8:19 am


      Care to defend your predatory lending opinion?

      • Ricorun June 5, 2012 / 6:13 pm

        I tried. It was deleted. I won’t try again. But thanks for asking!

      • Amazona June 5, 2012 / 8:07 pm

        You had a post deleted? Why? Most people get an explanation for a deletion, and even a second or third chance.

        That must have been quite a defense!

      • Ricorun June 9, 2012 / 10:59 pm

        I wouldn’t say it was particularly provocative. Perhaps it cut too close to home? I don’t know. Anyway, what I DO know is that this site does not allow a free exchange of ideas, no matter how innocuous. In fact, innocuous appears to be kiss of death — either you’re a forker or you’re one of the anointed. No other options seem to be allowed.

      • Amazona June 9, 2012 / 11:44 pm

        rico, you were a whiner when you were here before and you are a whiner now. This “poor me” whimper is Classic Ricorun.

        Why did your post have to be “provocative”? What an odd word to use, so smug and preening. Perhaps it was just profane or racist or in bad taste. I didn’t see it so I don’t know. But we see plenty of wildly oppositional posts here, on a daily basis, that are not deleted, so your whine that yours was removed because it didn’t fit into your invented narrow categories of “forker” or “anointed” is just BS.

        You come here as a person whose goal is to run a stick through the spokes of discussion, to act as a speed bump. It is annoying but never “provocative”, and it is an outright lie if you are claiming that something you wrote was deleted because it WAS “provocative”.

        And, rico, your statement that “…either you’re a forker or you’re one of the anointed. No other options seem to be allowed.” is simply a lie.

        You just want to be a speed bump who is treated as a legitimate contributor to political discourse and sulk when you are identified as a speed bump. You have the choice of actually contributing something, but you choose to just sneer at what other people say and try to posture as smarter and wittier than anyone else, but without actually saying anything.

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