Discuss all aspects of the campaign here but, also, did Romney do what he needed to do? Was the RNC a success?
UPDATE: Well, I think Mrs. O should make nice and allow Mrs. R in early to measure for drapes in the Oval Office…
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The few personal stories about Mitt were compelling. I have always thought of him as a decent man, but those stories showed him to be a man that is truly a man of faith and selflessness. I can’t even imagine the narcissist Obama doing anything even close to that for his neighbors.
Lots of love shown towards Mitt by those folks who were touched by his humanity. Their heartfelt testimonies sent out much needed positive vibes and we can only hope that they will not be overshadowed by Eastwood’s bizarre performance. No doubt the media will be concentrating on the sad spectacle of Clint addressing an empty chair, pretending the President is sitting there, giving him an imaginary script laced with profanity and completely ignore how well thought of Mitt is by those with whom he has helped along the way. Sigh…
Small minds obsess over small things CO.
cO
and mindless foreign drones spout off BS of which they know nothing aboot eh?
the sad spectacle of Clint addressing an empty chair, pretending the President is sitting there,
It was a little bizarre. It would have been much more effective if there had been an empty suit draped over the back of the chair.
I just watched a speech by a woman who has known the Romneys for years, and it is the only speech that has ever brought a tear to my eye.
I believe her name is Pam Finlayson—could be wrong on the spelling, I didn’t take notes. I found her speech to be the most powerful portrayal of a genuinely good man that anyone could imagine, and if any of you missed it I encourage you to look it up—it will probably be on YouTube.
My wife had that same reaction – the DNC/MSM talking point is that Romney is some sort of bloodless, corporate vulture. Turns out he’s just a man…
I’m not sure that “just a man” would have spent time at the hospital with a grieving mother, taken in her son to give her time to spend at the hospital with her critically ill baby, shopped for cooked and delivered a Thanksgiving dinner to a stressed family, and taken time out of a campaign to contact a woman to offer condolences on the death of her daughter.
We need a nation of men like this “just a man” and we for damned sure need one in the White House.
I heard that story too and it touched my heart. I wish I were half the man Mitt was in that situation.
Amazona,
I meant that in the best of ways – just a man. A human being. Someone who is just doing what he thinks is best. Not someone with an axe to grind or a thesis to prove. He wants to be President because he thinks its the right thing to do, not because he’ll be affirmed as a man by so being.
That’s right, Mark.
I think we can skip “man” and go straight to “Mensch”
Is there time to watch GranTorino before Marco speaks?
“These are ideas that people come to America to get away from“.
Grammatically challanged, but you gotta agree with the sentiment.
This may be the closest I have seen to actually addressing the core differences between our choices—the freedom path vs the Leftist path. I wonder if anyone is ever going to talk about the basic differences in the PHILOSOPHY of the two opposing sides.
Everyone keeps talking about how Obama has failed, but he hasn’t–his SYSTEM has failed. He’s actually done a pretty good job of advancing his agenda, but it’s the agenda itself and the political model it is based on that are the failures.
GranTorino was a great movie, as is most of his movies are. Mystic River is probably one of my favorite movies of all time.
Romney did what he had to do, he humanized himself and showed a man of experience, intellect, and great compassion. Dare I say it? It was a little Reaganesque.
Dare I say it? It was a little Reaganesque.
I feel better about the prospect of a Romney presidency than any since Reagan. I truly believe Mitt is the right man at the right time.
I am in complete agreement here, Spook and Cluster. As much as I like Rubio, I thought he should have edited out about 10 minutes of his speech, as he got pretty repetitive, but Mitt got it all going again.
Eastwood was a hoot, and I understand he ad-libbed the whole speech.
I noticed that the crowd was really getting tired, which I can understand—at CPAC I was wiped out by the evening speeches, after sitting in a hard folding chair all day, listening to speech after speech, and I felt bad because sometimes it looked like a lack of enthusiasm when I am sure it was just exhaustion. But even the tired came to life when Mitt spoke, and I thought he nailed it.
What I am seeing is a calm confidence, and on the other side a frantic desperation. I liked how our guys addressed Obama’s performance and qualifications, while the Dems are employing vicious personal attacks—I think that difference is going to be, as the new Dem buzzword seems to be, more “stark” as time goes on.
Spook, how do you feel about the Repub Partys rules changes that basically told the TEA Partiers that they were not needed. How do you feel about the rule changes that were pretty much railroaded through the convention.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/carney-party-leaders-trample-their-grass-roots-in-tampa/article/2506386#.UECUXKPdnIV
Spook, how do you feel about the Repub Partys rules changes that basically told the TEA Partiers that they were not needed.
GMB, I had heard allusions to it on the radio, but the first I had read anything about it was in an OathKeepers email yesterday. The GOP establishment needs the energy and enthusiasm of the Paulbots and the Tea Party, but order of business numero uno is stopping the bleeding. I can’t speak for the Ronulons, but the Tea Party, I think, recognizes the absolute necessity of winning this election. There will be plenty of time afterwards to have a long discussion about the direction of the Party. If people who felt slighted and disenfranchised by these actions were to take their toys and go home, the damage after 4 more years of Obama would likely be unrepairable.
Nevertheless, this part of your article was especially disturbing: (all emphasis – mine)
MITT ROMNEY…VERY PRESIDENTIAL!!!
MOST COMMON SENSE I’VE HEARD IN FOUR YEARS!!! ;D
AND CLINT EASTWOOD…TRULY AND CLASS ACT!!!!!
WOOOOHOOOO!!! LET FREEDOM RING!!!!!!
The crawler at the bottom of the screen kept repeating how Obama thinks that if he is re-elected Republicans will suddenly be more willing to work with him—–as if he would ever give an inch on his side, as if he does not define “cooperation” as “capitulation”.
But I noted the phrase that Obama thinks this would be like “popping a blister”. What a charming metaphor.
I suggest that if his goal is to pop a blister, ours is to drain an abscess.
I would like to agree with you that curtain measurements should commence at this time. Something about counting chickens comes to mind though.
No it is time to see if Mitt will settle for a narrow victory or go for the kill outright. It is his game to lose.
Have a question for our resident leftists. If any of you are brave enough to answer.
Is this a legitimate political tactic here?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/occupy-unmasked-screening-threats-republican-convention-2012-366697
Is this how you collectivists actually operate? Do you want this same tactic used against you?
I also have great confidence now in Mitt for the upcoming debates. He is on message and he articulates his positions from a commons sense ideological position, which will shred Obama and his empty pandering rhetoric.
If anyone is wondering if Mitt got it right, just listen to Chrissy Matthews:
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews didn’t even wait for the balloons and the confetti to stop falling before laying into Mitt Romney. Moments after the former Massachusetts governor finished his Thursday night speech at the Republican National Convention, Matthews slammed the supposedly “very dark, very jingoistic, very anti-scientific, and, really, Know-Nothing” elements of the address.
That is absolute proof that Mitt nailed it. I think liberals already know that they have lost, and probably wish that they would have gone with Hillary. Speaking of Hillary, she plans to be as far away from the DNC convention as possible, which is another clear indication.
Hillary, she plans to be as far away from the DNC convention as possible,
GOOD; and GOOD riddance to the Klintoons…back to the trailer park in arkansas for them, and chicago for the THUG in chief..King putt
chicago for the THUG in chief..King putt
Whoa, Neo – can’t say chicago anymore; it’s racist – even with a lower case “c”.
Even Michael Moore thinks Romney will win.
And why would young voters be enthusiastic about another 4 years? The only people who have been screwed worse than young voters by this administration are young, black voters.
“dark”?
“anti-scientific”?
“Know-Nothing”?
And of course the rabidly radical Left elites do like to think of patriotism as “jingoistic” as they sip appletinis and sneer at love of God and Country.
But wait a minute—isn’t “dark” now a racist term? You know, CODE?
Just as “anti-scientific” is code for “believing in God”?
And of course “thug” is code for “Democrat”.
Anti-scientific simply means anti-scientific Amazona. However, I am less concerned now than I have ever been about a Romney presidency since he has erred by promising 12 million jobs in his first four years. How with his plans he can deliver this I do not know. No one would love to see 750,000 jobs added to the US economy in the February thru April bloc in 2013 would certainly move the needle of unemployment to around 7.8%. Were the trend to continue I am told the rate of unemployment would be around 6.2% on election day 2016. If that holds Romney would be assured re-election. However, any president with that sort of economic success rate would be highly favored.
Cavalor,
It was in the plan that Romney laid out last night – the key points of which were the determination to press forward with an American energy program and reform taxes and regulations to unleash American productivity. Just in oil and gas if the cuffs are taken off we’d probably add several million jobs over a four year period when you consider the follow-on jobs-creating effects.
The labels that liberals are desperately trying to pin on Romney is absolute proof positive that they are out of ideas, out of energy, and soon to be out of office.
How do you create 12 million jobs? Open up the energy sector. North Dakota is at 3% unemployment and still falling. If we begin to aggressively develop oil, coal, & natural gas energy, that alone will create about half that number, and the ancillary & support jobs that will follow, will be the other half. In addition, we will become energy independent in the next 6 – 8 years, if not a net exporter.
It’s not rocket science. Oops, there’s that “science” word.
“Anti-scientific simply means anti-scientific…”
Oh, it does not. You need to keep up with your fellow travelers, Cav. Now nothing means what is says, and all is just a code for something else. Haven’t you been watching your talking heads?
OF COURSE you don’t know how jobs can be created. You are a Liberal.
Keep in mind that the only reason North Dakota has these figures is because the oil lies beneath private land. If that state economy had to depend on drilling under federal land, ND would look a lot like the rest of the country.
That is it exactly, Amazona. ObAMATEUR and his mindless drones love to brag about oil production being UP during his term.
But when you look at the actual FACTS, he is only counting production on PRIVATE LANDS and not public lands, over which he has direct control. Those, of course, are way down due to his primitive energy policies (I know the drones will find “primitive” to be racist). I and others have addressed this issue before and the only thing the mindless drones can do is keep regurgitating that dumbed down talking point – “production is up”.
obAMATEUR’s green energy policies have done nothing to create , save or touch those jobs. Well if you count Solyndra and the other companies that have gone belly up, you can say he “touched” those jobs as well.
Pathetic
Cluster, regarding ND and new jobs, etc.
A little background:
1. My brothers and I wanted to start an oilfield support company, but no matter how great our business plan was, no matter how many clients banks had in the same general business who were making a lot of money, we simply could not overcome the new and increasing (almost daily) regulations on lending. We would get approved for a loan and within a day or so be told that new regs had come in that made them withdraw their approval.
I finally put up real estate as collateral, and we got started, and have been quite successful, but fully aware of the fact that if I had not had the real estate to put up as collateral we would not have our business.
2. On a flight to Florida I sat next to man who has a home building company, on his way back from Williston ND, where he had gone to look into building houses for the booming oil industry. What was holding them back? The stranglehold on credit, even for established business, the Obama administration touts as “regulations”.
So while the oil business is booming in ND, corollary economic expansion is throttled, and the boom is pretty much limited to oil and gas production. With decent and rational regulation, which is to say extensive DEregulation, that economic boom could be expanded to include housing (labor, lumber, appliances, roofing material and labor, flooring, windows, etc.) and grocery stores, drug stores, shoe stores, clothing stores, auto dealerships, etc.
Each of these businesses provides jobs, which means employment for people, families, schools and churches, and a stable infrastructure of civilization.
When I look at ND I think of Los Alamos, New Mexico. I was close to some families who had lived there since the late 40’s, whose children remembered having to go down the mountain to Espanola or even Santa Fe to buy anything they needed, who remembered sleeping in the back seat on the way home and being awakened by flashlights shining in their faces as the cars were examined at checkpoints when they came back into town. (This went on into the late 50’s.)
When the town was opened up, it boomed, with drugstores and pizza parlors and all the things that accompany any town popping up like mushrooms, and then the people needed to staff these businesses moving in. Suddenly—and it WAS sudden—it became a real town, and not just a “company town”. (In the case of Los Alamos, the”company” was the US government, but still….)
We have to repeal Frank Dodd. And just an aside, I don’t know where you get your energy, but you have more irons in the fire than a lot of people I know.
And just as clear is that Matthews was reading from an anti-GOP script…one can criticize Romney’s speech in a lot of ways, but to call it dark or jingoistic or anti-scientific is just absurd.
Think about it – if the internal polls had Obama in the lead, don’t you think Hillary would want to be right there by his side? She is as power hungry as they come, and a popular and successful Obama would be her launch for 2016. As it is, by distancing herself, she doesn’t have his stain on her in 2016.
Can the word “stain” be considered racist?
“Can the word “stain” be considered racist?”
You betcha. It’s CODE, doncha see…….
Though when used in context with a Clinton, it also has another meaning…….
That’s hilarious – I didn’t even think of that.
” There will be plenty of time afterwards to have a long discussion about the direction of the Party” Retired Spook
Unfortunately that time will never come and you know it. There will always be something more urgent to take care of, something more important to do. Another “most important election of our lifetime”
Business as usual hey?
Last ride.
Holy CRAP Eeyore, the election hasn’t happened and you’re already preparing for Conservative Armageddon.
You’re just a half-full kind off guy, aren’t you?
Please explain what the repub party has done to return any freedoms to the people in the last twelve years. Please show me one government give away that the repubs have ended in the last twelve years. Please show me one example of the repubs making the donkrats bend to their will to stop the spread of conservative constitution values.
Half full? If only.
GMB, what freedoms do you want returned to the people?
Otherwise, I agree with you regarding giveaways and the erosion of Constitutional restraints on the size, scope and power of the federal government.
But I am also an optimist, and when I look at the astounding growth in the influence of the TEA Party—-influence which is underrated as so many have not become members of TEA Party groups but understand and agree with their messages—and the energy and idealism of the Young Guns of the party, I feel pretty hopeful that things will change.
Nothing remains as it is or was. The GOP drifted toward the Left, not necessarily because of ideology but because of inertia and lack of commitment, but it has reached a tipping point, where—-as Spook pointed out—-it will be absorbed into a new and revitalized Constitutional Conservatism or be challenged and replaced by a Constitutional Conservative party.
Just as the the Democrat Party has reached a tipping point, where Dems will soon have to examine their actual ideological preferences and choose between the New Democrat Party, which is made up of rabidly radical Liberals, or a Constitutional party which just doesn’t comply with all their emotion-based issues and agendas but does offer an acceptable blueprint for how to govern the country.
Lost freedoms? Trick question right.
Well here goes.
1. FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION: Government may monitor religious and political institutions without suspecting criminal activity to assist terror investigations.
2. FREEDOM OF INFORMATION: Government has closed once-public immigration hearings, has secretly detained hundreds of people without charges, and has encouraged bureaucrats to resist public records questions.
3. FREEDOM OF SPEECH: Government may prosecute librarians or keepers of any other records if they tell anyone that the government subpoenaed information related to a terror investigation.
4.RIGHT TO LEGAL REPRESENTATION: Government may monitor federal prison jailhouse conversations between attorneys and clients, and deny lawyers to Americans accused of crimes.
5.FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCHES: Government may search and seize Americans’ papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.
6.RIGHT TO LIBERTY: Americans may be jailed without being charged or being able to confront witnesses against them.
You might be surprised to learn what rights you actually have left. All your “government” has to do is accuse you of being or aiding terrorism.
Don’t take my word for this, by all means, please read the Homeland Security Act, The Patriot Act, as well as the NDAA.
So, GMB, what is your solution? Please give us your detailed explanation of how each of these erosions of liberty should be addressed, and your detailed explanation of what can replace them which does not infringe on your freedom.
Unfortunately that time will never come and you know it.
You may be right, GMB, but one of two things is almost certain if it doesn’t: either the Tea Party will split off into a third party, allowing the Donks to rule in perpetuity, or the Tea Party will take over the GOP. I think the GOP establishment will eventually be forced to confront the fact that an awful lot of Americans do not want their choices limited to Progressive and Progressive Light. I think the GOP establishment is a dinosaur whose days are numbered.
“You may be right, GMB, but one of two things is almost certain if it doesn’t: either the Tea Party will split off into a third party, allowing the Donks to rule in perpetuity, or the Tea Party will take over the GOP.” – Spook
Spook is channeling Clint Eastwood today.
GMB said X will never happen. Spook said if X never happens then Y will occur. But one will have to wait FOREVER to see if X doesn’t happen.
Okay, so let’s not be anal Amy and instead assume Spook might mean something which would make sense. He must have a time frame for his If X statement. Unfortunately, he doesn’t specify a time frame in the grand grand GOP tradition. Steering the Gran Torino in the direction of reality might help.
A tangible prediction, in the next 6 years the TEA PARTY will neither go 3rd party nor take over the party of Mitt. It will wither on the vine (take attendance at Tea Party events as your metric e.g.) just like the Occupy movement. If it was called “The US is Spending Way Too Much Party” it might survive.
But Mittens wants MORE military spending and more tax cuts and the same size of Medicare , he has Obama size hopes and dreams of paying for them with the NPR budget. Again, if Mitt is willing to openly say he would eliminate the Department of Education he wouldn’t have to promise anything else for my vote.
BTW- for all you dupes comparing Mitt to Ronald Reagan
In 1980, Ronald Reagan openly called for abolishing the Departments of Education and Energy and criticized H.U.D.
Of course Reagan was a simple man from Illinois, not a Harvard educate lawyer like Mittens.
dolf, you might be a little more careful about telegraphing your personal, shall we say, “interests”.
Calling me “anal Amy” is just TMI regarding what you focus on.
Back off a little, OK? (pun intended)
“I think the GOP establishment will eventually be forced to confront the fact that an awful lot of Americans do not want their choices limited to Progressive and Progressive Light.”
Well now, the national repub leadership just made a move in the progressive direction. Something that would be expected of the donkrats. Not the opposition.
Peep
“It will wither on the vine (take attendance at Tea Party events as your metric e.g.) just like the Occupy movement. If it was called “The US is Spending Way Too Much Party” it might survive. ”
Are you arguing against my observation that the MESSAGE of the TEA Party Movement has resonated with many who have not officially become part of it, or are you just ignoring it because it doesn’t fit in with whatever it is you are trying to say now?
Are you disagreeing with my statement that the Young Guns element of the party is committed to those same principles? Or is this just another of your silly evasions of what WAS said so you can show us how petty you are?
Spook’s comment was coherent and accurate, and the bitchiness exhibited in your “….assume Spook might mean something which would make sense. ..” indicates your need to snipe and posture rather than just engage in civil discourse.
Yes, your chosen identity is Speed Bump, but every now and then it would be a refreshing change if you would actually lay out a political philosophy, explain it, and defend it, instead of just lurking in the weeds to pounce upon whatever you can distort into a target for your effete snarling.
GMB said X will never happen. Spook said if X never happens then Y will occur. But one will have to wait FOREVER to see if X doesn’t happen.
Okay, so let’s not be anal Amy and instead assume Spook might mean something which would make sense.
Dolf, yeah I thought about someone like you nitpicking what I said as soon as I clicked on “Post Comment”. I do think there are actually three options going forward. In addition to the two I noted, I think there’s a possibility that the Tea Party will evolve into a Constitutional Conservative Party, and the GOP will gradually fade away. Actually, I think that’s the most likely scenario as I don’t think our constitutional republican system will support 3 major parties. I think the GOP folks who attempt to occupy the middle ground will get very lonely, very quickly. And, no, it won’t take forever. It’ll become pretty obvious in the next election cycle or two. If Obama is re-elected, even sooner.
Yes, GMB, “…he national repub leadership just made a move in the progressive direction,,,” Astute observation. The national leadership of the GOP as it is now did something that was deeply offensive to the newly energized conservative arm of the party.
So why not wait to see what happens as these new, energized, committed Conservatives act to drag the party, kicking and screaming but outnumbered by the Constitutional Conservatives who are fed up with Business As Usual, into the 21st Century.
As I just said somewhere else, nothing remains as it is or as it was. Everything changes, and at this point I see momentum for change building in the reform movement of the party.
You can sourly predict gloom and doom forever and ever, because lighting did not strike and leave the whole convention miraculously converted to whatever it is would satisfy you, but the atmosphere of optimism and energetic pursuit of a more Constitutional government is strong.
This morning I went out examine an excavation for a house I am building, and ended up in an hour-long conversation with the excavator, an officer with a Young Republicans branch in Colorado. He is energized, his group is energized, and they (and I and many more) see the “national leadership” losing ground.
But for now, in this time, in this place, they are essential to winning the election. You may be willing to poke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick to make a point, but this is a process, not an event, so you are just going to have to sulk and bitch and moan and complain and carry on as you do, while others do the heavy lifting to actually CHANGE things.
Please describe the nature of your “heavy lifting” and what it has accomplished.
Anything? Other than hoping that the guy with a (r) behind his name might be a smidgen better the guy with a (d) behind his name.
You might also be surprised to learn that all those laws were enacted under Bush 43 and re-enacted under barky.
Bitch and moan. I don’t think so. What I think is that so many people like you are blinded so well that you will happily live on the plantation, as long as the overseer has (r) behind his/her name.
You know what GMB, I am not blinded at all. I am ok with the patriot act, and the other loss of liberties you listed aren’t even on my radar right now, but I encourage you to keep up the fight. However, I will never take you seriously unless and until you can prove to us that you have actively joined cause are doing something about it, rather than bitching from behind your keyboard
By the by here, would you just hurry it up a bit here and accuse me of being a leftist and whatever else you may wish to label me as. I haven’t got all day. Well, I do have all day but not to wait on you to get your hatred and vitriol out.
So, speedy service would be very much appreciated.
” I will never take you seriously unless and until you can prove to us that you have actively joined cause are doing something about it, rather than bitching from behind your keyboard”
The same could be said of everyone here.
See, GMB, this is what you do. You are so proud of your self-proclaimed position on your self-defined Moral High Ground that you feel quite justified in your petty snarling that anyone who is not in lockstep/goosestep with YOU is just “…happily live on the plantation, as long as the overseer has (r) behind his/her name.”
You are not only full of crap, you are downright nasty about bragging about it.
And just in case we don’t realize how unpleasant and distasteful you are, as you preen in your imagined glory as the Only True Conservative, you try to play the Victim Card—‘go ahead and call me a Leftist, I’m so wonderful I can take it—” and then ACT like a Leftist by proclaiming anyone who thinks you’re full of crap is really just—you guessed it—-full of HATE AND VITRIOL.
Nonsense. You are just a very noisy, very blustery, very clueless egomaniac who has set himself up as the standard of conservatism, patriotism, and whatever ism you are claiming sole title to this week.
But when pressed, as when I asked you what YOUR solutions are, you put your tail between your legs and retreat into what you seem to think is Attack Mode, though it really comes across as mere ankle-biting.
Well, I am an active advocate for the Conservative Movement. I am volunteering for Republican get-out-the-vote activities in my state, and I am investing my money (several hundred dollars at a time) in candidates I think will advance the cause. I try to come up with answers and solutions instead of just bitching and moaning and sniping and snarling at everyone who does not 100% agree with me. My goal is to be an active and productive part of GOP reform.
And as for hate and vitriol, anyone who accuses people who are actively working to change the GOP for the better, while remaining open an alternative if necessary, as living “…happily live on the plantation, as long as the overseer has (r) behind his/her name. is an excellent example of those two vile and hateful characteristics.
It’s a good thing you don’t care what people think of you.
Cluster, GMB doesn’t fight. GMB whines, whinges, and pouts that no one seems to recognize his astounding brilliance and flock to him as a leader of True Conservatism. He is just an egomaniacal blowhard who has set himself up as the gold standard of absolute correctness, and anyone or anything that does not comply with his absoluteness is just a spineless plantation dweller bowing to his or her overseer.
It is the GMBs of the world who become dictators, when they can, because of their absolute conviction of their absolute rightness and their absolute authority to determine with absolute certainty the absolute path everyone should absolutely follow—and strike out viciously at those who fail to toe the absolute line.
Fortunately, he has no power or authority to enforce his absolutism, so all can do is rail against the infidels who find him tiresome and annoying but not very important.
@Spook
I am not nitpicking, that is Anomaly’s job. So-and-so hasn’t codified there entire political philosophy to a soundbite so Amy is there nipping at the ankles or hitting just below the belt.
You brushed off GMB as a whiner and then offered up vagaries in response to the trampling of grassroots efforts. Just wait until an election cycle or two. (That worked swell for Roe v. Wade right?)
I agree with you that we’ll see what the Tea Party is about sooner rather than later. A Romney win will bury the Tea Party as just another populist movement, an Obama win and the Tea Party will be buried by people getting ‘hooked’ on Obamacare.
No answers on Mitt in the role of fiscal conservative.
@Anomaly
You’re also having an Eastwood kind of day. The young guns are trashed as Paulbots or as naive … If you think the young guns are excited about Mittens escalation of military spending you’re borderline senile.
@Clueless
” I am ok with the patriot act, and the other loss of liberties you listed aren’t even on my radar right now.”
How would a slave that was well fed answer differently? Not at all.
Why would you be afraid of losing liberties like free speech. You have nothing controversial to add to a conversation. Why would you worry about freedom of religion when you are a hyper-materialist which is the national religion.
The same could be said of everyone here. – GMB
No it can’t. I know that Spook is very active in the tea party, and that Amazona and I have both contributed to the Romney campaign. I do put my money where my mouth is.
The patriot act is akin to slavery?? Wow.
Next time try and speak with just a little less hyper emotion, ok?
“It is the GMBs of the world who become dictators.” analamy
Clueless has admitted that he is a slave and a coward, interested in lower taxes but not essential liberties. It is Amy and Clueless who are just begging for a Mussolini to come along and make everything right for the right kind of people.
It is the GMBs of the world who become dictators, when they can, because of their absolute conviction of their absolute rightness and their absolute authority to determine with absolute certainty the absolute path everyone should absolutely follow—and strike out viciously at those who fail to toe the absolute line.
LOL. It just can’t be said any better than that.
I admitted to being a slave and a coward??
Stool, you are in rare form today. Wife kick you out of bed?
@Clueless
You are a moron every day, no matter what your wife does, your brains have been outed. Aside from a big helping of tax breaks you don’t exercise anything regularly much less your ‘rights. Like Amy, you probably enjoy the free health care probe at the airport.
Big guy gives $$ to Mitt hoping it comes back in the form of tax breaks. That’s quite a patriot. Putting your life on the line for your beliefs and all that. I’m sure Neo is in awe of that kind of commitment, sure does top his service in Vietnam.
I’m sure Amy and Spook have been in a combat zone before, after all the long lines at the 3 pm buffet are fierce. Who knows, maybe one of the hearty souls on the B4V ship did canteen duty in their life too. A
I would be a dictator? Well at least is is an original insult, I will give you that.
As far as being active in my chosen politics, not that I would provide it but what would you consider proof? A blog post? Pictures? A canceled check to a candidate? LOL
The national repub party just took away the ability of the state parties to name their own delegates. They just centralized their control of the party. A move any good Chekist would applaud.
Yet you are angry with me for pointing this out.
OBEY!!!! the dictator!!!! or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lolzer, me a dictator. You guys are not losing it. You are already lost.
Smiles to everyone!
I wouldn’t worry about dolf’s WIFE kicking him out of bed—after all, what could be more attractive to a woman than a peevish, querulous egotistical pseudo-intellectual whose “wit” is so clearly illustrated here by his sad efforts at biting humor and insults, and his blatant lying?
Even in the small pond out on the Staked Plains, dolf is a minnow desperate to have some sort of impact, somehow, somewhere. So he spits and snarls and lies and in general makes an even bigger fool of himself, and tries to dismiss his lack of a political compass by sniveling that someone who finds such a thing valuable is nothing more than an ankle-biter, with this gem: “…So-and-so hasn’t codified there (sic) entire political philosophy to a soundbite…”
This grammatical error from a TEACHER, no less.
And by the way it is also a lie. I request the Pseudo Lefties here, like dolf, to please explain their political philosophies, if they have any, and this is hardly the same as his purposeful dishonesty in claiming that I demand these philosophies, if they exist, be reduced to a “soundbite”. This is a feeble and transparent effort to shift attention away from the fact that dolf’s entire political philosophy appears to be summed up as “crochety but clueless”.
It’s not MY fault it really is nothing more than a soundbite. I would like something more—an actual explanation of a political philosophy, an actual outline of the person’s idea of the best blueprint for how best to govern the nation, perhaps some support for this belief in the form of examples of how and where this system has worked better than the one I support, if it is different. You know, an adult, reasoned, discussion of actual ideas.
In other words, something far far beyond the capabilities or interest of dolf and his kind—–all that thinking, you know, and then having to have a spine. He’ll just stick to being dolf.
It’s not my fault that dolf’s idea of political discourse is of skulking in the weeds until someone else has offered an idea, and then running out and trying to lift his leg on it. It’s not my fault that this is all dolf has to offer. It’s not my fault that dolf has found an interest in my nether regions, or at least an area that lends to speculation about why he has chosen this, of all body parts, to mention.
Some of us offer ideas, some prefer to just be speed bumps. dolf has chosen to be a spiteful and malicious speed bump, showcasing a remarkably petty persona, as well as an ignorant one. Check out the Young Guns website, dolfie, and tell us how many of them who were elected in 2010 and who represented the GOP at the convention were or are Ronulans.
Too bad you have nothing better to offer here than snotty ageism, impotent snarls about the mentality of OTHERS, and a general exposition of your vacuous and distasteful nature. I’m sure if there were more to you than this, we would have seen it by now.
Oh, get over yourself, GMB. I am not angry at you. You don’t matter enough to generate anger. You might as well say I am angry at that annoying mosquito I finally swatted last night.
Yes, the GOP passed a rule. BFD. They passed it in 2012. It did not exist before 2012. There is no reason to believe it will now exist in perpetuity, though that belief does seem to provide you with another excuse to rant and rave.
The Old Guard got away with something because they had the power, and then then had to sit and watch the future of the party showcase their differences, knowing that they had probably signed their own death warrants (FIGURATIVELY, not a call to violence) when they saw the reaction.
Personally, I think it was more of an effort to rein in the Paulbots and head off an effort to divide the party than it was to take over states’ rights, but that is how it came across and that is what will defeat it.
There is an ebb and flow to everything, and there will come a time to get rid of this rule—probably sooner rather than later. Not that this will comfort you hysterics who will froth at the mouth, howl at the moon, snarl insults at those lacking your absolutism, and in general carry on with hyper-emotional zeal, while the business of the world goes on around you.
And no, I did not say YOU could be a dictator, just that your absolutism is a major characteristic of those who are, as is your demand that all agree with you or suffer the consequences. You really do need to get that ego shoved aside every now and then so you can see around it and figure out what people are actually saying.
No, those who become dictators also have, in addition to the absolutism of their beliefs, the ability to attract followers—something someone with your personality could never do. So you are doomed to sulk alone, with the “consequences” of disagreeing with you limited to silly attacks about us being happy to live on plantations sucking up to overseers——pretty brainless stuff and hardly intimidating.
“As far as being active in my chosen politics, not that I would provide it but what would you consider proof? A blog post? Pictures? A canceled check to a candidate?”
In other words, you got nothing.
LOL
Long thread within the thread no?
“after all the long lines at the 3 pm buffet are fierce.”
I hear the repub party has struck a medal for just that. The Golden Rino with dollar sign clusters. For exceptional bravery while in line for dinner.
Nah, I’m only making that up. Repubs don’t have that much bravery in them.
I have the exact same amount of proof that you have. Or Spook for that matter.
None.
Refute it.
Face it. Whenever confronted with any dissent from your standard party line you get nasty.
Why?
Ok fellow conservatives; here’s your dog-whistle message for August 31, 2012. Have your super-secret decoder ring at the ready;
Romney was able to connect with the attendees in Tampa, as well as the larger viewing audience with a hopeful campaign message while at the same time contrasting his vision with the President’s accomplishments and Obama’s empty promises.
Decoded message; Romney (I’m a white guy) was able (only white guys have freedom) to connect (you understand the secret message, they don’t) with the attendees (only white people and “acceptable coloreds” are allowed to attend) in Tampa (Southern Racist WhityTown) as well as the larger viewing audience (White people are still the majority) with a hopeful (racist) message (racist) while at the same time contrasting (he’s BLACK, we’re white) his vision (racist) with the President’s (the word “President” is temporarily racist) accomplishments (Socialist) and Obama’s (Foreign sounding name) empty (Birther) promises (scary Negro wants to kill all the whitys)
Great minds think alike.
Romney Is Reaganesque – Dick Morris
Not saying that Dick Morris has a great mind. LOL
One thing I haven’t seen anyone point out is the difficulty the Left will have portraying anything in Romney’s speech as revealing his “dark” side or portraying him as a bad guy. On the contrary, the last night of the convention portrayed his as a genuinely decent man. One of the speakers, can’t remember which, nailed it when he/she said, Romney is not only a good businessman, he’s a good man. I hope the campaign builds on that theme and takes the moral high ground, partly because this is a team that has the creds to take the moral high ground, and partly because the moral low ground is pretty crowded with Obama operatives and surrogates.
…and partly because the moral low ground is pretty crowded with Obama operatives and surrogates.
Including Axlerod and you’re right. There’s not a lot of room left.
You know if I find the liberal “dog whistle” talking point to be extremely offensive.
When the world needs to do really big stuff, we need an American. I think that was below the belt and it was a dog whistle, whatever you want to call it, it was a bone throw to the birthers out there that you know what I’m really not that far from you. – Ed Schultz
Is Ed really saying that conservatives react to dog whistles? And if so, does he really think that that’s acceptable?
I feel bad for Mitt Romney.
Its his moment in the limelight, its the biggest party of his life, his coronation, and he gets upstaged by an empty chair.
I feel bad for bloody.
In his rare opportunity to say something relevant, he remembered he has no gray matter.
I feel bad for poor Barry, knowing that the second best metaphor for him is an empty chair—–second to an empty suit.
And creds to Spook for beating me to it.
Rush just mentioned this and it bears repeating:
Character is what happens when no one is looking
So let’s contrast our candidates
Romney, upon request, helped a dying 14 year old boy put together his will and performed his eulogy. In addition, he visited and prayed with the mother of a pre mature baby with serious complications and delivered a thanksgiving dinner to them in their time of need.
Obama sent a form letter to the parent of a soldier killed on his watch. Furthermore, Obama would have supported the live birth abortion of that pre mature baby.
If anyone needs to humanize themselves – it is Obama.
What say you liberals?
Character?
What say my Jewish friends now?
how is that hope n change working for you ?
how do you like the muslim usurper??
Israeli Paper Details Alleged Tense Confrontation Between Netanyahu and U.S. Ambassador Over Obama’s Iran Policy: ‘Lightning and Sparks Flew’
“Romney, as a Mormon pastor in the late 1970s, devoted 15 to 20 hours a week visiting sick members of his congregation, delivering meals or shoveling snow for the elderly.”
So Romney was a Mormon pastor and did his job superbly. He’s certainly a better witness for his church than I am for mine.
Still not at the level of the Good Samaritan who 1) tended someone of another belief 2) invested his own money and 3) didn’t benefit from being a bishop/pastor in a church
IT goes without saying that Obama is a self-serving, incompetent liar who did zip for his church.
Gee, I didn’t know the Good Samaritan invested any money, or was a bishop or a pastor, or benefited from same. You sure are a fount of Biblical wisdom, there, dolfie.
But seriously, are you really trying to make a big deal out of the comment that Romney “…devoted 15 to 20 hours a week visiting sick members of his congregation…” Is THIS what you are focusing on? That he didn’t go out and visit the sick in OTHER congregations? Really?
Of course you don’t know if he did, or what he did on his 2-year mission, or really much of anything, except you found something you thought you could whinge about.
(And no, using a British slang term is NOT the same as pretending to be a citizen of the UK—one of your more bizarre lies of a year or so ago.)
So you are lecturing us on Biblical teachings vs the life of Romney.
Of course to do so you have to invent a Romney history and/or complain about just who he visited, you have to fret about whose money he invested and lie by inference that he did not also invest his own (can we look forward to your religious whines about the evils of stockbrokers and bankers, who after all also invest other peoples’ money?) and then there is the big kicker, that Romney BENEFITED from his role in his church.
Wow—when it comes to petty, you would be hard to beat.
Anomaly
Why would you know the story of the Good Samaritan? It isn’t exactly in the constitution or Hunger Games.
“On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, and gave them to the host, and said to him, ‘Take care of him. ”
His own money.
The Good Samaritan WASN”T in the role of a pastor/bishop/priest. In fact the Priests walked on the other side of the street. So the Good Samaritan got nothing worldly for his compassion.
Certainly not a mention on national TV a couple decades later. How about that for a big payback for your investment.
Believe it or not, every Pastor’s job is to visit the sick. It’s not particularly special for Mormon bishops to do this. Again he carries out his church obligations better than I do mine. But in the end they are obligations to keep his good standing in the church. Every Mormon tithes 10% so if Mitt did so as well I wouldn’t be stunned as you seem. I know quite a few Mormons and the work they do as missions. Not impressed.
As for petty, you’ve pulled a Royal Flush in pettiness for your whining, carping and haranguing just on B4V.
“Why would you know the story of the Good Samaritan? It isn’t exactly in the constitution or Hunger Games. ”
Ahhh, poor baby—no saucer of milk this morning?
The oddest things stick in your craw, such as commitment to our rule of law, or a love of reading that encompasses many genres.
This week it includes a biography of Billy the Kid, a little steam punk, politics (Leading from Behind) and The Pope Who Quit.
You be sure and file that away, m’kay? Who knows when you might feel the need to use any of it in a spitty little attack?
Since you are in Biblical Lecture mode, who was that guy who kept posturing as being more religious than anyone else and what was it Jesus said about him?
Fine, you think Mitt has failed, somehow, because …..well, who ever knows WHAT the hell you are sniveling about on any given day.
““On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, and gave them to the host, and said to him, ‘Take care of him. ””
Crank that up to two or three MILLION denarii, and you are getting into Mitt territory.
Of his own money.
Every year.
And it it meets some quirky need of yours to mutter to yourself about how Romney really only ministered to the sick for forty years or so because he knew that someday someone would talk about it on TV and it might give him a bump in his ratings, well, you just go right ahead. If your sour nature demands a conviction that the only reason Mitt gave away millions is because his church said he HAD to, well, it’s your sour nature so you just go with that, OK?
“I know quite a few Mormons and the work they do as missions. (sic) Not impressed. ”
And after all, impressing you IS the whole idea, isn’t it?
What I saw is a good man, who has done good things his whole life. What made it through your filter is a man who has done some good things but only because he had to, and because it would benefit him.
I guess one difference between you and me is that I am not eaten up by envy of another’s success and good fortune, and have no sick inner need to belittle him or what he has done—but that’s just me.
While you’re in Bible Lecture mode, you might check to see if envy is mentioned anywhere in there—I’m pretty sure I remember it, and not spoken well of, either.
Have fun there, lurking in the weeds—-it won’t be long before someone else posts something kind, or thoughtful, or significant, and you can run out and try to piss on it, too. It seems to pass for legitimate discourse in your mind, and it certainly seems to be what floats your boat.
Or—and this is just an idea, you understand—-you might actually start acting a little more like Mitt, and a little less like a spiteful jackass, and who knows? Your own circle of success might expand beyond the occasional Fulbright or other acknowledgment of your strictly mathematical skills, into being a less hostile and bitter human being.
“One thing I haven’t seen anyone point out is the difficulty the Left will have portraying anything in Romney’s speech as revealing his “dark” side or portraying him as a bad guy.”
Why would he have included anything that the ‘Left’ could use to make him look like a bad guy?
Romney “Oh and by the way I stole 10 million dollars from the taxpayers”
“But what most voters don’t know is the way Mitt Romney actually made his fortune: by borrowing vast sums of money that other people were forced to pay back. This is the plain, stark reality that has somehow eluded America’s top political journalists for two consecutive presidential campaigns: Mitt Romney is one of the greatest and most irresponsible debt creators of all time. In the past few decades, in fact, Romney has piled more debt onto more unsuspecting companies, written more gigantic checks that other people have to cover, than perhaps all but a handful of people on planet Earth.”
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
al Ubama .
.Romney“Oh and by the way I stole 10 million dollars from the taxpayers”and stole his education,through fraudulent foreign student loans.
stole from a publisher for books he did not write
stole from nobel for a peace prise he didnt win.
stole from publishers for a future unwritten book the day before inauguration.
stole hundreds of millions for the mooch and her posse to travel to every country on the face of the planet.
stole from the taxpayers for getting paid to play 150 rounds of golf.
and stole from the people of Illinois for fraudulently obtaining a law license since revoked.
I missed Alan at the convention, HE should have been the Keynote speaker not the joisey RINO!!
‘Off His Medications’: Rep. West Takes Chris Matthews to Task for Wild Chicago Theory
“This is insidious and it just shows the desperation and the fear on the other side.”
Rolling Stone?? Really when did I gain ownership of that roll of toilet paper?
lol
OBEY!!! the dictator that is!!!
You forgot moochs fancy clothes and jewelry. Forgot to mention mooch gave up her law license too, under shady circumstances. Forgot to mention 170 present votes while in the Illinois Senate by barky.
We could go on and on and on. But lets not stop Stump from having a dream.
“task” = code for slavery, referring to the jobs slaves were required to perform
“wild” = code for blacks, as ALL WHITE PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD think all black people are wild savages
“Chicago” = code for “blacks” but co-existing with the long-held definition of being code for “corruption”
“Chis Matthews” = code for vicious race-baiter
“Rep. West” = code for not really black House N****r Uncle Tom traitor to his race
“medications” = code for black, implying drug use
“theory” = code for being “anti-science”
“off” = code for the Loony Left, short for “off their rockers”
Wow, lil’ stumpy’s on a roll today!
First, the lie, and then the exposition of his gross ignorance of how venture capital works, followed by a link to a drooling Leftist rag!
And it happens again.
We start a thread about the optimism and upbeat attitude of the challengers to the Obama regime, which brings out the speed bumps (stumpy and dolf in this thread) who just want to derail the conversation, and of course some personas of GMB bouncing up and down and hollering LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! I DON’T LIKE REPUBLICANS!!!!
And pretty soon the thread is about them, countering their lies, and wasting time pointing out facts they find irrelevant if they even bother to pay attention to them. I plead guilty to allowing myself to be drawn off topic.
More and more, the blog is divided, into the Commenters and the Speed Bumps, the Discussers and the Blog Vandals.
What did I lie about? As far as i know nothing. You are the one with the nasty temper and attitude and it showed again today. You handle any dissent with insults, personal attacks and general nastiness.
Admit it, all you want is an echo chamber.
Echo amazona and everything will be nice and fine right?
wahhhhhh wahhhhhhh wahhhhhhh
I don’t like Mass. politicians. Most of them slither. Good to know that at least a few have a man card. I think MItt gave a good speech. I wish him GOD speed.
So when does George W Bush speak? He is down the memory hole isn’t he. But I am sure THIS east coast golden spoon never worked a job in his life corporate criminal incompetent will be different.
Not quite sure who you mean, and since when did you Libs drop East Coast creds as proof of superiority? You know, that Superiority by Zip Code meme you have been parroting every time we have an election and the nation is red, with a few blue cysts in places like Jackson Wyoming and the skimpy blue parentheses along the coasts.
Must not be the son of a middle class carpenter who worked his way up, who donated his small inheritance and made it on his own, who moved away from the state where his father was governor to avoid being given any special consideration because of it, who was not a legacy student at Harvard or an affirmative action student or a foreign exchange student but who got there on his own merits and the took law school and his MBA SIMULTANEOUSLY, scoring nearly a 4.0 in both, or the man who lived in a small apartment with a wife and infant son using an old door on sawhorses as a desk and an ironing board as a dining table, who built a business from the ground up and worked his ass off to make it successful, who is known for his bone-deep honesty and integrity, and famed for his competence at everything he attempts.
Sounds to me like you are channeling the most insane of the increasingly insane Left, and really liking the taste of it in your mouth. Sour grapes can be expected from people who bet on the wrong horse and how have their noses rubbed in it, but the viciousness of the tirade you penned is really quite astounding—–and quite a peek into a very very creepy persona.
Tell you what—just don’t vote for him. You’ve got someone more your speed, anyway, and I think you ought to just stick with him and ride that all the way to the bottom. You might send his campaign a copy of your screed, though—-now that Hope and Change have morphed into Fear and Smear, they are probably looking for more bottom feeders like you.
I understand that George W. Bush was slated to speak, until someone decoded his name and discovered that “George” is code for slavery, as George Washington owned slaves, “W” is code for White, which is code for hating blacks, and “Bush” is racist code for the briar patch—as in B’rer Rabbit begging “Oh, no, puleeze don’t throw me in that briar patch” from a story that is, from first word to last, nothing but code for racism.
Something I have not seen anywhere else:
The young man I spoke with this morning was really disappointed to have missed out on being a delegate, and he kept in touch with friends who did get to go. He told me the Colorado delegation was off to one side, at or near the front, where they could see one of the teleprompters, and during the speech it quit scrolling, and then went blank.
And Romney finished his speech with nary a flicker of acknowledgement.
I noticed one fleeting moment when he looked a little startled, lost a syllable or two, and then went on, seamlessly finishing a long and complex speech.
This man told me that the friend who was there had a copy of the speech, and that while Mitt didn’t stick exactly, word for word, with the written speech or the order of its contents, he did cover it all.
Gee, it’s nice to look forward to a President who can speak without reading the words…..
We all remember when a teleprompter scrolled over the same paragraph twice and Barry just parroted the same thing twice, not even realizing what he was saying.
The contrasts are really quite delicious. Even the much-reviled-and-slimed-by-the-Left Sarah Palin sailed through a speech with broken teleprompter at the last GOP convention without hesitation. We can just imagine what would happen if this were to happen to Barry, even in a middle school class, much less at a convention.