Geraghty quoting GOP pollster McLaughlin over at NRO:
…How campaigns try to sway polling results: “In a close race, the operatives are trying to manipulate the turnout through their paid and earned media. The earned media includes lobbying and trying to skew the public polls. Historically the most egregious case was the 2000 Gore campaign’s lobbying the networks’ exit pollsters for an early, and wrong, call in Florida. This suppressed the Florida Panhandle and Western state turnout.” (Polls close at different times in different parts of the state, because the state stretches into two time zones.) “In our post-election Florida poll, we found that thousands of Panhandle Floridians heard the call and although their polls were still open for an hour in a close national race decided not to vote. Panhandle voters went two-to-one for Bush. The CBS early wrong call nearly triggered a national crisis.”
On what a realistic partisan breakdown would look like: “The 2004 national exit polls showed an even partisan turnout and Bush won 51–48. Had it been the +4 Democratic edge of 2000, John Kerry would have been president. 2008 was a Democratic wave that gave them a +7 partisan advantage. 2010 was a Republican edge. There’s no wave right now. There are about a dozen swing states where in total millions of voters who voted in 2008 for Obama are gone or have not voted since. There are also hundreds of thousands of voters in each of several swing states like Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, and others who voted from rural, exurban or suburban areas in 2004 for Bush who did not vote in 2008, because they were not excited by McCain or thought he would lose. They are currently planning to vote mainly as a vote against President Obama.”
What Obama and his allies are doing now: “The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models…
Given that our venal MSM is entirely in the tank for Obama it wouldn’t take much lobbying or pressure to get an MSM poll – or a poll done independently for an MSM outfit – to skew their polling to advantage Obama. Good to remind everyone at this time that back before the primaries were even over I was saying that the polling will show Obama in good shape right through election day no matter who we nominated. First off this is because polling – for a variety of reasons – almost invariably over-states Democrat strength. Secondly because the MSM believes it is their moral duty to have our first African-American President re-elected. Their whole worldview is at stake here – if Obama loses, then they will feel it as a bitter, personal loss. They also must know, by now, that they are destroying their credibility with all non-liberal Americans and they clearly don’t care…saving Obama trumps all for 90% of the MSMers (which includes, by the way, a very large number – perhaps a majority – of those who work at Fox News; maybe not the on-camera talent, but the people who select and write the stories).
The good news for us is that GOPers and Independents are largely starting to tune out MSM coverage – the MSM is now, in a sense, lying in a void, with only dyed-in-the-wool liberals really paying attention to what they’re saying. We have, I think, reached a tipping point where those whom we need to vote are no longer susceptible to MSM narratives about how things are going.
Day by day I have only grown more certain of a Romney victory – it is still pretty early and a lot of things can happen, but absent a spectacular meltdown by Romney, I expect he’ll win on November 6th. The reason I’ve felt this way is because of objective facts: the economy is bad. Our global position is in collapse. Obama has proven himself to be both dishonest and incompetent. Nearly a million swing State voters switched their registration from Democrat to GOP or Independent over the past couple years. Far from being outspent 2-1 (as almost everyone expected a year ago) the GOP challenger looks to be able to match Obama dollar for dollar. Obama can’t generate the crowds he got in 2008. Republicans are not hyped up on something like “hopium” as the Democrats were in 2008, but are grimly determined to win – they have become “broken glass” supporters of Romney (meaning they will crawl on their knees across broken glass to get Obama out of the White House). The election results in 2010 indicated a massive rejection of Obama’s liberalism. The Democrats poured everything they had in to blue Wisconsin and came up losers. Election results are showing that pollster are not just under-stating GOP turnout but are missing a huge chunk of GOP voters, entirely (these are TEA Party people who have been brought in to politics only since 2009; what really brought this to light was the GOP primary results in Indiana – Lugar was supposed to lose by 3 and ended up losing by 21…pollsters don’t miss by that much unless there is a gigantic group of voters who either never voted before or only voted rarely in the past). All this and much more just shows me that Romney is the presumptive winner – that it is Obama who is in deep trouble and will have to fight and scratch and if he does win it will be only by the narrowest of margins (and if he does manage to win it may be with less than a majority of the popular vote). Of course Obama can win – he’s got a huge amount of power on his side and it may be enough to shove him through to victory…but, I doubt it.
Blogs For Victory 
The FRAUD continues and the lemmings will run us off the cliff.
Something odd is going on in the Tokyo-Rose-like MSM media. The polls are indicating Obama has already won the election. All of a sudden the MSM is drowning the news in poll, after poll, after poll indicating Obama has won by crushing numbers. The facts are saying otherwise. It is not just the polling results properly weighted for Republicans and democrats at http://www.unskewedpolls.com but all over the country the facts are in direct conflict with Tokyo Rose.
In case you do not know who Tokyo Rose was, she was a lady broadcasting in the South Pacific during World War II to allied troops. The broadcasts were of a pleasant nature often featuring music with interspersed commercials telling soldiers what kind of losers they were and how they could not win the war. Fast forward to today and Tokyo Rose has transformed into the Main Stream Media (MSM) where their message is to tell average Americans what kind of losers they are and how resisting is futile. The MSM’s greatest commercial featuring defeat is the poll designed to demoralize and conquer.
“The intent of these broadcasts was to disrupt the morale of Allied forces listening to the broadcast. American servicemen in the Pacific often listened to the propaganda broadcasts to get a sense, by reading between the lines, of the effect of their military actions.”
If only the majority of Americans, and we are the majority, would understand that they have to have the same approach as the soldiers dealing with Tokyo Rose. In other words, you out there need to understand how to read the MSM’s propaganda in order to know what they are most afraid of. Right now there is such a massive effort at disinformation to make you think the polls are giving Obama a victory, when the opposite is true. The principle is simple. Whatever the MSM is making a push for you to believe the most is what they are most afraid of.
Right now they know Obama is facing a crushing defeat. They would not be working so hard to push these polls if he were the favorite winner. He is not!
http://www.teapartytribune.com/?p=59512
The teaparty is not the majority and this propaganda is the same as what he’s raising the alarm about. Talk about reverse psychology. The media has no such prescient knowledge. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Day by day I have only grown more certain of a Romney victory – it is still pretty early and a lot of things can happen, but absent a spectacular meltdown by Romney, I expect he’ll win on November 6th.
The “spectacular meltdown” has already occurred. Insulting half of the nation two months before the election is a pretty safe guarantee that you’re going to get your keyster handed to you on Election Day.
Mitt admitted as much in his “47%” speech: there are two entrenched camps who will vote for their respective guys and a group in the middle that decides the whole thing. Mitt’s job is to attract that middle group and, so far, he hasn’t done it and isn’t likely to do it based on (a) his lack of likeability in general and (b) a message that is not in any way distinguishable from the disastrous Bush presidency. So…what’s attractive about that?
You’re whistling past the graveyard, fellas. Mitt’s campaign is already dead. Get used to the idea.
cybermaninpink
the 47% are donks, addicted to OPM and the plantation who will vote for the muslim anti Christ AGAIN.
Mitt has it right,
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money [to spend].”
Au contraire mon frere. A large portion of the 47% are (were) Mitt’s supporters. One of the most vile things he said was “they felt they were entitled to food”. No pun intended, but there’s the milk of human kindness for ya. And as we now know, he did not take all of the deductions he was entitled to because his tax rate would have been even lower than it was in 2010. So HE would have been including himself in the 47%. Remember when he said that he only pays what he is required to do so? Then why did he claim fewer deductions? Not that it matters, because he can go back an amend the return. I also want to ask a question. It is a sincere question Mr, Moderator and I am not making fun or light of his religion. I have done some research and I discovered that Mormons must pledge absolute loyalty to their church. This oath supercedes all others. If Romney were to win, how can he pledge his complete allegiance to the constitution and not violate his oath to his church?
I have done some research and I discovered that Mormons must pledge absolute loyalty to their church. This oath supercedes all others. If Romney were to win, how can he pledge his complete allegiance to the constitution and not violate his oath to his church?
This Mitch is patently false.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/oct/18/fred-karger/fred-karger-says-mitt-romney-would-have-put-loyalt/
Hey Mitch,
What’s it like to get shut down by a patron of Hell who doesn’t even work in the Executive Suite?
Same question they asked of Kennedy (not the Dead Drunk one) about the Catholic Church. Same Answer–US Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. One and the other have no disagreements on the governance of the population.
Mitch,
You need to learn a few things before you try to get into another battle wits (of which you have none) because the folks in Florida–retirees are agreeing with Romney / Ryan at over 76%. Go home while you are still losing.
NEXT WEEKTHE WHITE HOUSE PLANS TO EXPLAIN THE 70 thousand dollar video that Hillary and Obama made and played in Libya and Egypt. How? Since all the cowards in DC have left to tend to their on going plans to sell themselves and win their positions for another 4 or 8 years.
All this tape does is provide another excuse to these rioters in the middle east. There is no excuse and it was a terror rocket attack that killed our ambassador and the other 3 Americans.
CLOSE DOWN THE MEMBERSHIP TO THE UNITED NATIONS THEY FAILED THEIR CHARTER FOR WORLD PEACE.
TERM LIMITS WILL HELP CURB THE BETRAYAL OF THE PUBLIC TRUST.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlr3Yj7ENDM
The U.S. Has bought $70,000 worth of air time on seven Pakistani television channels to air this ad showing President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denouncing the anti-Islamic video.
TREASON! Both Hijab Hillary and Comrade Zero are guilty of treason. The are speaking against our laws of freedom of speech.
They are trying to distract from the fact that the USA was attacked by terrorist on 911 in our American Embassy in Libya and killed our Ambassador and 3 other Americans. This is an act of war and what did they do…??? They sent more money to the Brotherhood. How better to fool the trusting Americans than to destroy their nation right in their faces and pull the rug out from beneath them.
MEANWHILE WE SEND MORE MONEY
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/s196
Just when I think this site can’t get any more loony…
Just when he thinks this site can’t get any more loony, he rushes in to try to make it so…………
AMA
yup the Chi cago “actor” in pink tights shows up AGAIN to slobber at the 0nes feet
your kneepads are wearing thin pinky
Mark,
It’s like Deja vu all over again. This post reminds of several of your posts in 2008.
You don’t like the polls so obviously they have to be wrong.
The corporate owned media doesn’t print the stories you like and have the audacity to print stories you don’t like so they must be in the tank.
The press is only reporting that Romney is losing so Republicans will give up.
The truth is Romney is losing. Tim Pawlenty bailed from his campaign this week and Romney is getting attacked by the right almost as much as from the left.
“Lies, damn lies, and statistics” is the quote you are looking for Casper originally popularized in the United States by Mark Twain (among others); However, Mr. Twain is also well regarded for his statement ” The mania for giving the Government power to meddle with the private affairs of cities or citizens is likely to cause endless trouble, through the rivalry of schools and creeds that are anxious to obtain official recognition, and there is great danger that our people will lose our independence of thought and action which is the cause of much of our greatness, and sink into the helplessness of the Frenchman or German who expects his government to feed him when hungry, clothe him when naked, to prescribe when his child may be born and when he may die, and, in fine, to regulate every act of humanity from the cradle to the tomb, including the manner in which he may seek future admission to paradise.”
Nevertheless, Statistics is one of many subjects I have learned both in school and applied in the real world as a part of polling for various persons, places and products. Who you ask the question of, how you phase the question, even the time of day you take the poll all effect the outcome of the poll. After you input all of the information there is the matter of “weighting” an answer. I will not believe a poll (other than Nov 6th) unless I can see all of the underlying data and methods—at this point Rasmussen is the only one releasing that. Wish whatever you want but it will all be over and King Putt & Queen Mooch will be back in ChiTown making that place one more level lower (deeper?) of … (I will that to the readers).
That makes no sense. If Rasmussen is the only poll releasing their methodology, then how can you make the assumption that other polls are incorrect based on information you do not have?
Mitch,
I will use a different optic to help you.
If you got a ticket for speeding and there are 15 cops “with evidence” but only one will show that his gun has been registered and tested within the last 2 days–who do you think you would believe? 12 of the other cops are saying “Trust me” but from other equally verifiable sources you learn they are adding +6 to +12 to the speed indicated on the meters when it should be +-0 to -3. The others will not admit to anything but you are still guilty no matter according to them.
Go ahead and defend yourself from a simple speeding ticket with those constraints. That is what you are asking the general population to believe when they (MSM+) refuse to admit in public that their polls are based off of 2004 and 2008 standards when they no longer apply and how they skew the current polls. They are all over-polling +6 to +12 (at a minimum) when recent contractions in the polling data should have them at a representative -3). That is a full +15 democrat when they do not warrant it. Please justify that.
BTW, sorry–forgot to included is that Rasmussen is the only poll releasing all data with each poll. Every other one you need to know what you are looking at in order to match one piece to another in order to determine who is really fudging numbers. I still have access and friends in the business that makes it easier but they do try to hide it well. Wonder why???
dbschmidt,
I also am leery of any poll other than the one in November that counts. However, I’ve found from experience that when the vast majority of the polls suggest that a certain result is going to happen that there is a pretty good chance that it will happen. If half the polls showed Obama in the lead and half showed Romney in the lead, I would conclude that either could be ahead. However, at this point all of the major polls have the Obama ahead or at least even. Therefore, at this time, I would conclude that he is winning.
OMG! OMG!! T-Paw bails on Mitt!! Stop the campaign, no need to vote, it’s all over. T-paw bails on Mitt!!
Pawlenty who?
“Pawlenty who?”
You know, the national co-chair for Romney’s campaign.
GMB,
This is one of the funniest bits of news because our liberals just don’t see it for what it is. Here’s the Reuters story about it:
Pawlenty is to be part of one of the most powerful, DC lobbying groups in the country – thing is, Pawlenty has never been a DC politician. He was a legislator and governor in Minnesota. He doesn’t have the sort of insider contacts in DC normally desired by major DC lobbying firms. Firms like that usually pick someone like former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle who did become a lobbyist after his defeat (and, as an aside, was recruited in to the particular firm by former Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole) – because someone like Daschle knows everyone in DC who matters and thus can effectively lobby for them. Pawlenty probably couldn’t get a call back 9 out of 10 times in DC…but this major firm is hiring him. Why? Because they expect that he’ll have the ability to lobby effectively…but he’ll only be able to lobby effectively if Mitt Romney is President. This, if anything, is an indication that the insiders already consider Obama a beaten man.
Pawlenty was, indeed, a national co-chair – a completely honorific position which doesn’t involve setting strategy, fund raising or, indeed, anything beyond some times showing up on TV to pitch the day’s talking points. Pawlenty probably agreed to it with an eye towards a possible VP pick…but he wasn’t picked as VP. So, what does he hang around for? A cabinet post? But here comes a job which may pay a couple million a year…which do you pick? If you’re blindingly ambitious to stay in public office, you might go for a cabinet post and hope that you aren’t completely forgotten by 2016 (if Romney loses) or 2020 (if Romney wins). Pawlenty grasped the means of making himself and his family permanently financially secure.
Is it within the realm of possibility that Pawlenty quit because Romney is doomed? I suppose so – but why quit? Whether he’s doomed or heading for certain victory the thing to do if you care about your political future is to stick it out until the end. Even a defeated Romney will still carry a lot of weight for any politician envisioning a future Presidential run. His fund-raising rolodex itself is worth its weight in gold. The only rational reason for quitting is because of a much better offer elsewhere – whether Romney is going to win or lose is immaterial on that level…but the only reason a DC lobbying firm would want him is for access to the Romney White House. So, the conclusion can really only be that the insiders figure on Romney and want to start setting up a lobbying system to take advantage of this.
Will you please try to control your impulse to refer to liberals as if you own them. “Our” liberals? Really? It’s a cavernous opening into a psychological analysis of this tick that you have.
That is a remarkable conclusion you came to. Congratulations. “Rational” is relative. You did a magnificent job, starting with a conclusion and coming up with a way to get there. But there is no getting around the fact that he quit just weeks away from the election. And his timing was brilliant! Quit the day after the 47% video was shown. And I am sure that you have some privileged knowledge as to the reasons why a lobbying firm would desire his services.
Oh, mitche, get a grip already. Don’t you have anything better to do that try to find something to whine about?
Now you are into this bleating about the term “our Liberals”. waaaa waaaaa waaaaa. If you don’t want to be one of “our” Liberal trolls, go be someone else’s.
pawlwnty the dot?
What’s ironic is that Casper dislikes and completely dismisses Dick Morris’s opinions and polls which have Romney ahead, preferring the national polls that have Obama ahead, and then claims that Mark only supports the polls that Mark likes.
That’s our teacher for ya. I think Wyoming needs to raise their teacher standards.
cluster,
I didn’t dismiss any Dick Morris polls because he doesn’t present any. What I stated was that he has been wrong far more than he has been right over the years. That had to do with his opinions.
Well, Morris’s opinion that Clinton had to stop vetoing Republican welfare reform bills sure turned out to be right, didn’t it?
So right that Clinton won reelection and now refers to the welfare reform shoved down his throat so often he finally had to sign it as the crowing glory of his presidency.
Thank you Sarah. I asked a question and it was answered in a polite and inoffensive manner. Cluster, she was not shutting me down. When she said “This Mitch..” The word “this” referred to the subject of the question. In other words, the information I had found was not correct. What she was not doing was objectifying me. As in this Mitch person is patently false.
Mitch,
I am only speaking for me and not the blog owners but at least I do welcome any and all opposing opinions–it is one of the ways to expanding understanding. I have been taught in the past that I am not always right and have changed a few views over the years.
I just hope, and actually “know”, that all others her will welcome your views as long as you remain civil in displaying them. As a final note: I was almost asked to leave because of my poor behavior but as long as civil is the course–I believe all viewpoints are welcome.
Moderators are welcome to lay out the actual rules.
BASIC RULES: No racism, ageism, or religious bigotry. No profanity. Try to stick to ideas and discussion. There will be times a thread wanders off course and times post are off topic and these will be at the discretion of whoever is moderating at the time. When a poster posts nothing but insults this person will be removed. Many repetitions of the same post will be removed. Not a complete list but the basics. //Moderator
I appreciate that very much. Sincerely. It would be a very refreshing change. 🙂 Although I am sure you understand that 99% of the time my views are not welcomed, but attacked. In fact, its probably closer to 100!
Actually, mitche, when it comes to you, it is not your so-called “views” that are attacked but the lack of actual political content of those “views” and their dependence on spite and malice.
Mitch,
Get a sense of humor. It’s an important component to a well rounded life.
DB, In the case of a speeding ticket, I would want to know exactly who or whom these other verifiable sources are. In this case, I am asking you to provide evidence that substantiates your contention that the MSM is withholding information about a change in polling standards. Specifically, other than an increase in cell phone use, how have the standards changed and why do they no longer apply?
I am not trying to “justify” anything. An example of justification would be attempts to disenfranchise voters by requiring very difficult to get documents to prove identity. (The justification being the Republicans want to diminish the number people who tend to vote for democrats especially in the glaring lack of empirical evidence that voter fraud is a problem. I think that statistics are used in that “justification.)
But please, show me how you have arrived at your foregone conclusion that Romney will prevail and I might change my mind. I respect science and statistical analysis. My wife has a PhD in it. You also might look at this. From the communists who skew public opinion.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/romney-vs-obama-electoral-map#cartogram
“An example of justification would be attempts to disenfranchise voters by requiring very difficult to get documents to prove identity. (The justification being the Republicans want to diminish the number people who tend to vote for democrats especially in the glaring lack of empirical evidence that voter fraud is a problem. I think that statistics are used in that “justification.)”
Why would mitche say this? For two intertwined reasons: It is a lie, which has a delicious taste in his mouth, and it advances a Leftist meme necessary in the pursuit of demonization of the Right—which is all they have.
Hi DB. (Remember DB Cooper?) I am curious. (Not as in yellow) And I am asking this in all sincerity. What do you think of the validity of Pew and what do you think of this poling data.
http://www.people-press.org/2012/09/19/obama-ahead-with-stronger-support-better-image-and-lead-on-most-issues/
I would have to see the questions asked, the when, where, etc. of the polling, the weighting of the responses to make a the data set used. Nevertheless, I do not trust polls at all except the big on in November and to some degree the exit polling where people tend to be more honest.
What I was referring to was the assumption that many pollers are using which is the +7% turnout for Democrats in 2008 believing that will happen again when those that self-identify as Democrats has dropped several points over the previous 4 years while those that identify as Republicans has gone up several points.
I figure you may not like the source of this link but it does have a very nice and simple graph to show the over-sampling. That and a link on Drudge this morning reads “Frustration with polling metrics leads to creation of unskewedpolls.com…” This I would not take as an unskewed poll but rather one skewed more towards expected turnout this year. Haven’t had the time to visit the site yet.
Finally, I do think Romney can do a better job on many fronts; however, I am not voting for Romney–I am voting to remove Obama.
Oops… http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-graph-shows-why-obama-is-ahead-in-the-polls/
donkrat campaign manager. “Ignore the national polls” What ever there guy. This guy has as much credibility as our resident forward observer who called in artillery fire on his own troops.
GMB
AFTER the US pulled out…………seared in my memory I tells ya..
Not on polling, per se—and BTW, that is “polling”, not “poling”——little Freudian slip, there, mitche?
But——going over the flood of posts from OUR Pseudo Left trolls over the past few days, one thing has stood out. Glaringly, even STARKLY.
And that is, not a single word from any of them on what it is about Obama’s political ideology that is a better way to govern our country.
I mean,they are arguing for the RE-election of the man, after having had nearly four years to see what he can do, and yet with all the heat and hyperbole not one of them can present a case for giving him another four years. Not one of them can present anything he has done to make this nation stronger, safer or more productive.
Yet the noise level keeps rising.
So what does it have to say?
Tim Pawlenty, a man with a family to support, left a non paying job for one that has a salary. The Left’s spin? a rat jumping off a sinking ship. When Mark presents an excellent discussion of Pawlenty’s decision, and its ramifications, the only response is “The only thing that matter is that he left”.
And the claim that Romney’s 47% comment was an insult to nearly half of America. This lie is very important to them, so important that the math doesn’t even matter.
And polls.
Oh, and that some don’t find Mitt “likable”.
What I get from this nonsense is that the Left has nothing to run ON and therefore is reduced to running both AGAINST and AWAY.
AWAY from the deplorable record of their guy. AWAY from the worst recovery from any recession ever, in the history of the country. AWAY from a debt that is already crippling, even with interest rates kept artificially low by a complicit Fed. AWAY from a foreign policy that has the Middle East hating us more than ever, while our people are dying needlessly, on the battlefields and in our embassies. AWAY from a domestic policy that has a record number of people becoming dependent on the government, and which is working overtime to increase that number. AWAY from the shameful record of having the President of the United States actively trying to first shatter the nation into splinters of demographic groups and then trying to turn them against each other, in a disgusting play for power. AWAY from staggering job loss, and inflation that the Complicit Agenda Media refuse to even acknowledge, in hopes no one will notice that our gas prices have doubled since Barry took office and our grocery prices are escalating daily. AWAY from the ugly fact that their guy has done everything in his power (and some stuff that is NOT in his legal power) to cripple our domestic energy program and keep us dependent on foreign oil, while at the same time lecturing us that an illegally crafted CAFE standard which will result in more highway fatalities is really a step toward independence from foreign oil. AWAY from the fact that its so-called “health care” plan will cost the average American thousands of dollars a year, while reducing the quality of health care in this country. AWAY from the fact that they WILL raise taxes on the middle class.
AGAINST a candidate and a political movement not on political grounds but using lies, smears and personal attacks.
AWAY and AGAINST, a campaign of negativity, lies, smears and hate.
And it is so desperate that all it has to say for itself is that Pawlenty’s job change is so important, so momentous, so indicative of failing Romney support, that—-well, it just is.
It is so desperate that all it can do is lie about Romney’s comment on people who do not pay taxes.
All we have to do is look at what they post to see what they have, Spite and malice, hate and smears, lies and distortions, and constant, incessant, bleating about the POLLS.
If you asked someone for the time, you’d demand to know how the watch was built.
Do you stand a street corner screaming? Have you alienated your family and friends? My god woman, talk about getting a grip…
Ooooh, hit a nerve, did I, mitche?
You seem quite indignant about the idea that someone ought to base a decision on how the nation should be governed on, gee, maybe ON HOW THE NATION SHOULD BE GOVERNED.
Indignant, shrill, strident, hysterical—-just mitche being mitch.
But mitche, you should have just shut up, instead of scurrying back here to show how right I am. Because your whiny little non-response just proves that I am correct. You people do not base your “decisions” on fact or reason, just on emotion—–and negative emotion, at that.
On the contrary, Mitch. I think she’s got you and those like you pretty much nailed.
Nope, haven’t alienated friends and family, but yesterday friends and family were helping me with a project and I suggested a game called “Debate the Lefty”.
I started off, asking someone to ask me a question about why Obama should be reelected. My cousin did, and my response to “Mr. President, why do you think you deserve four more years?” was GEORGE BUSH IS AN A**HOLE !!!!!
There were variations. “Mr. President, why did you enflame the Muslim world by bragging about killing Bin Laden?” GEORGE BUSH LET HIM GO!!!!
“Mr. President, what do you plan to do to create jobs?” GEORGE BUSH DROVE US OFF THE CLIFF !!!!!!
“Mr.President, why do you think you would be better for this country than Mitt Romney?” HIS WIFE RIDES HORSES !!!!!
In five minutes of hilarity, we pretty much summed up the Dem presidential campaign.
The polling date kerfluffle reminds me of an award-winning TV ad of many years ago. I saw it a few years back on a show about TV advertising and it was still great.
The product was Chung King Chinese food. The bold statement was 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Chung King — and the picture showed ten men in white lab coats, nine of which were Chinese.
So X number of people questioned say they will vote for Obama—it really does depend on who was questioned, doesn’t it?
And of course we have not seen the two men head to head, we have not seen Barry without his teleprompter reading what his minders have written for him.
I’ll tell you what they DO have, based on what we have seen recently—they have a whole cadre of people frantically going through any of the Leftist vocabulary Barry might blurt out, and redefining all those terms, so they can come out immediately with all their lemmings parsing every word, like they are trying so frantically to do now, sanitizing the word “redistribution”.
all the kings horses and all the kings men couldnt put humpyt bark back together again……
OMG 2012
Psalm 109:8
And of course we have not seen the two men head to head, we have not seen Barry without his teleprompter reading what his minders have written for him.
like HERE??
Not big on polls, myself. Statistical probabilities require extraordinary circumstances to be grossly inaccurate, and yet exit polls are routinely declared wrong in favor of polls measuring future probable voters, when they are by far less volatile (more accurate) since they are measuring past events. So even math has been declared just another form of “belief system,” like science and religion.
I think we all can count on the gambling oddsmakers to not care who wins or what policies might result from any particular candidate, but to just pick the winner, since they have hard cash on the line.
Doesn’t look good for Romney/Ryan, unless you know they’re wrong, then you can take all their money and punish them for their partisan agenda by betting R/R!
Of course, R/R could get lucky like the Seahawks and get a grossly incompetent ref to call it in their favor.
I spent a Saturday a couple of weeks ago at Delaware Park, at the races, and I noticed (as I always do) the rapid changes in the odds as the race nears. I saw odds go from 15-1 down to 3-1 in five minutes. (And only one favorite won…)
When I go to the races in the States I don’t bet or go down to the paddocks, but in England I always did, and I know from experience that odds based on prior performances change, and change drastically, depending on what the punters see in the saddling area the paddock and even as close to the race as the horses being led onto the track.
But I am so happy for you that you are getting so much pleasure out of what you see, and that your enthusiasm is so great that you simply MUST rush on over to this site to share it with us. As usual, I find your obsession with this blog odd, but you seem to need to sneer, gloat or strut, so whatever floats your boat, I guess………….
Interesting post, there, freakzo. First you declare math and science as “belief systems” (perhaps you think that math, also, believes on winning a consensus vote) and then you try to set up an excuse for a Romney victory with “….R/R could get lucky like the Seahawks and get a grossly incompetent ref to call it in their favor."
For someone so obsessed with barging into a conservative site to posture and gloating over early polls, you also seem just a tad bit nervous, having to do a preemptive claim of cheating on the part of the GOP—-just in case, I guess.