Thelma & Louise – Open Thread

Reminiscent of Thelma & Louise’s movie ending flight over the cliff to destruction – that is exactly what I suggest conservatives allow to happen. In fact, going further, I believe that the GOP should rubber stamp everything Obama and the Democrats want to do for the next year, including military spending cuts, and little if no curtailment on entitlement increases. There is no question that the policies prescribed by Obama are doomed to fail, and in fact have so far, and there will be no other way to crystallize that in the minds of voters and the media, but to allow it to happen in full bloom. Every Republican needs to stand center stage and say unequivocally that while they disagree with the Administrations agenda, elections do have consequences and they will not stand in the way of the policies Obama endorses. Then, the GOP needs to remind the voters on a weekly basis, the results of those policies as they relate to unemployment, the debt, interest rates and the cost of living. As Count d’Harcots accurately pointed out to me earlier, the messaging is the main obstacle conservatives need to overcome, and it should become quite difficult for the Democrats to continue to sell their message of compassion, misguided as it is, when the economy is in shambles, poverty is rampant, and unemployment is persistently high, and the American voter is actually living the nightmare and being reminded of it everyday.

So spread your wings everyone and let’s take flight!

A HAT TIP TO DBSCHMIDT AS WELL FOR THIS PLAN TO ALLOW THE IMPLOSION OF LIBERALISM UNIMPEDED.

UPDATE, by Mark Noonan:  Just wanted to point out that which ever party can successfully mobilize white, middle class voters in 2014 and beyond will win huge.

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109 thoughts on “Thelma & Louise – Open Thread

  1. Cluster December 5, 2012 / 6:47 pm

    They have no choice but to compromise – mitch

    You’re not listening to me Mitch. I don’t want to compromise, I want to let Obama have EVERYTHING he wants. And his policies are already failing unless you consider this economy to be successful, which would be quite a stretch. You do remember that Obama has been president for the last four years right? So this is his economy, and it’s not good. So more of the same will only bring more of the same.

    I will also remind you that Boehner and the GOP won reelection and control of the House in their respective states by nearly the same margin Obama won by, and that is 1/3rd of the government, in addition the GOP currently governs 37 of the 50 states, so the demise of the GOP that you claim is a bit premature.

    My goal here is for Obama to hasten the demise of the Democrats, and I believe that is on course, so when your opponent is hell bent on destruction, you best get out of the way.

  2. tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 6:51 pm

    The obAMATEUR is more than willing to lead us over the “fiscal cliff”. This is the only time he will “lead”.

    Why do you ask?

    He is OBSESSED in raising taxes on the rich. Before, he has stated that during poor economic conditions that last thing he should do is raise taxes. This was during the first time the tax cuts were to expire.

    His “balanced approach” has been ONE SIDED. He speaks of raising taxes, spending cuts are a not a priority. This “promised cuts” nonsense are the typical lies DEMOCRATS have proposed before. They did it with Reagan and H. W. Bush and they are trying to do it again. They promised cuts and NEVER delivered.

    This has nothing to do with “deficit reduction”. This is an excuse. If he confiscated all the wealth of those who would be affected by the tax increases, he could not pay off his 2011 deficit alone!! His tax increases will only fund the government for EIGHT days!! There is no chance that there could be any deficit reduction on that.

    ObAMATEUR tax increases are about “fairness”. ObAMATEUR wants to raise taxes on the evil rich not to raise revenue but because he firmly believes that these rich people do not deserve that money. In Obama’s mind those rich people got that money by exploiting and oppressing other people, and it MUST be taken away from them and redistributed to the people they oppressed to make things FAIR.

    Remember to Joe the Plumber he “wanted to spread the wealth around”. AND his interview with Charlie Gibson, he admits that he wants to raise taxes for the purposes of “fairness”.

    He has said that he will not even talk to Speaker Boehner about the fiscal cliff until the Republicans agree to raise tax rates on the rich. He knows without a shadow of a doubt that if the GOP doesn’t cave on increased tax rates, and if the taxes DO go up on everybody the media is guaranteed to join with Obama in blaming the Republicans for the whole mess. He feels that he could use this as a weapon against the GOP. His constituents with the sound byte mentality will of course accept this as gospel.

    Once again, obAMATEUR is in campaign mode spreading the lies his mindless drones are happy to regurgitate.

    • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 6:56 pm

      Remember Tired, it was just two short years ago that Obama EXTENDED the tax rate cuts stating that raising taxes in a weak economy was the wrong thing to do, and yet today’s economy is even worse. So just another one of Obama’s lies that goes unmentioned. Again, it’s the messaging.

      • tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 7:00 pm

        ” Again, it’s the messaging.”

        And the mindless drones that the message targets.

      • tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 9:29 pm

        As I said, it is the mindless drones the message targets:

        Courtesy of a teachers’ union in California

        I like the part that covers tax evaders … speaking of not paying their fair share.

        Can you say Geitner, Rangle and other prominent Democrats????

    • 01canadianobserver December 6, 2012 / 11:39 am

      Starting with the reboot of the blog, from now on posts that appear to be intended only to insult or attack or disrupt the blog will be removed. //Moderator

      • irisspirit December 6, 2012 / 2:45 pm

        Does the “insulting and attacks” apply to Amazona, tired and Neo? Just asking if this removal policy will apply to all or just to those with whom you do not agree. I would like for this policy to be fair to all who post.

        If you are not smart enough to read the names of those who had posts removed then there is nothing anyone can say that can get through to you. You might try finding out what you are talking about before complaining. // Moderator

      • tiredoflibbs December 6, 2012 / 4:00 pm

        No Velma, the policy applies to those with absolutely no argument or facts and have no intellectual honesty whatsoever. This applies to most of the proggy posters here.

        If you had not noticed (not that you had a reading comprehension problem – I am sure you just missed it and not ignored it for a gotcha) the policy has been applied to ALL here and not the simpleton reason you cite.

        My posts, where applicable, have been removed. But I deal in fact so those would not be deleted, bit I have succumbed to the proggy tactic of insult and attack, on occasion.

      • irisspirit December 7, 2012 / 9:55 am

        Moderator, since you have deleted the posts it is rather hard to know what they wrote that you found offensive. I certainly can read the names of those whose posts were deleted and frankly I have never read one by 01canadianobserver I found to be so offensive that it should have been deleted. I cannot say the same for Neo, tired or Amazona. All of them insult and attack. Although I have seen some of Neo’s deleted he is allowed to post some pretty nasty insults here every day. Name calling is his forte’. Just asking for equal punishment for those on both sides.

        It is not punishment, it is moderation of the blog to keep it focused on ideas and rational discussion. Your history here is one of emotional outbursts and personal attacks. Attacking moderators and falsely claiming that your posts are deleted only because they present a different point of view or are “too close to the truth” will get your posts removed immediately. The blog is not a democracy where participants can vote on who gets to post and who does not. If you do not like the way the blog is moderated you may stop posting here. //Moderator

  3. tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 6:59 pm

    mitchie: “They have no choice but to compromise and if they don’t, then it is just more evidence that they cannot accept the outcome of the election and the fact that the vast majority of Americans have rejected their methods and their ideology.”

    Hardly drone, the GOP won the House and more local elections and governorships than the Democrats. It is hardly a mandate. But if you continue to view reality in that tiny prism that gives you a very small limited view, it only makes you look more and more foolish since all you do is regurgitate that mindless fantasy.

    obAMATEUR is the proven obstructionist. He is in the mode like last time – “I won you lost get over it.” Democrats are only interested in compromise when they are the MINORITY party. They want it in the House. They don’t want it in the Senate. Remember, the Senate has not passed a budget in almost FOUR YEARS – compromise is farthest from their tiny little minds.

    obAMATEUR can’t blame anyone for the situation he is in. He is responsible for the mess we are in with his last “compromises” that brought us sequestration in the first place.

  4. 02casper December 5, 2012 / 7:38 pm

    Cluster,
    I love your idea. Let Democrats actually govern and then be held responsible for their actions. Of course if those actions result in a better economy, the Republican party is dead. Are you ready to take that kind of chance?

    • dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 7:54 pm

      Casper,

      It has never worked before in this nation or any other. What makes you think it will this time?

      I believe Mitchie is a OWS’er. Believing his Masters living in a piss-poor excuse for a tent while they spent the night in $800 / night rooms. Sounds like it anyway.

      • mitchethekid December 5, 2012 / 8:34 pm

        I believe the moon is made from cheese as well.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:52 pm

        bmitchie

        I believe the moon is made from cheese as well.

        I believe you howl at that geen cheese as well.

    • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:05 pm

      Casper,

      I am ready to roll the dice on that and believe the odds are in my favor considering the last four years.

      • 02casper December 5, 2012 / 8:13 pm

        Cluster,
        Considering the amount of obstruction Republicans have presented over the last four years, I’m not sure we’ve seen what Obama’s policies could really do.

      • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:18 pm

        Casper,

        Obama got EVERYTHING he wanted for the first two years, did you forget that? And he was only slowed down in the last two – hardly obstructionist.

        I think you’re a little apprehensive about what might happen. As for me? I am confident Obama will fail.

      • dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 8:18 pm

        I would have to believe that you believe that Sen. Reid had nothing to do with any sort of “obstructionism.” Now that is funny. No budget as required by the Constitution. No Republican bills even heard or moved towards the floor. No Obstructionism at all.

        BTW, get ready as some of the new ObamaCare regulations are evaluated.

        On average, expect a 30% to 40% increase in the baseline cost of individual health insurance to account for the new premium taxes, reinsurance costs, benefit mandate increases, and underwriting reforms. Those increases can come in the form of outright price increases or bigger deductibles and co-pays.

        { … }

        But when you add the impact of the requirement that older consumers can be charged no more than three times as much as the youngest consumers (the usual standard is now a five times difference), premiums increase dramatically for the youngest.

        http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/ten-months-to-launch-obamacare-get-ready-for-some-startling-rate-increases/

        Enjoy what you have voted for. I will just have to suffer (or pay the fine) until we can right this disaster.

      • dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 8:28 pm

        BTW Casper, please name one time Progressive policies have worked. What country, what years, and for how long (find a period of over 10 years).

        Please do not mention Clinton because all it had to do with him is heading right (towards center) to get reelected and it did not last 10 years.

      • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:30 pm

        db,

        I pray that the GOP capitulates and allows Obama to do everything he wants. It will be an absolute joy to watch the younger generation, and other Obama supporters live through the ensuing economic misery.

        Remember the polls – those 45 and older broke for Romney, and those are the folks best equipped to handle a deep recession, of which we can expect. Those 44 and younger broke for Obama, and those are the folks I suspect are the least equipped to handle the downturn.

      • 02casper December 5, 2012 / 8:32 pm

        “BTW Casper, please name one time Progressive policies have worked. What country, what years, and for how long (find a period of over 10 years).”

        Social Security. it’s been around for over 75 years and has kept millions of seniors out of poverty.

      • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:42 pm

        Awesome response Casper, let’s analyze that. Besides the fact the Soc Sec is headed towards insolvency and Obama has zero plan to address that, the average 2011 Soc Sec disbursement was $1,230 a month, yet the poverty line for a single person for 2011 was just over $11,000 annually. So I guess you can say that the program did keep them out of poverty, but I wouldn’t exactly champion the program as a success.

        That being said, I do support the program and the need for means testing and reform.

      • dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 8:46 pm

        Casper’s response is a Ponzi scheme forced on the American people thanks to FDR loading the court system. Great answer there “teacher.”

        Let’s see what other wonderful things there out on the net today;
        Wondering if Casper had a seat at the latest Marxism conference or wonderful video production?

        Chicago Teachers Union VP Participating in Midwest Marxism Conference
        California Teachers Union Video Features ‘Rich’ Urinating on ‘Poor’

        Latest on the Leftists not trying to violate the 2nd Amendment;

        Dem Senators to Strip Gun Rights from Military Vets
        Dem Lawmakers Exploit Belcher Murder-Suicide to Push Gun Control
        Media Spins Red State Shootings for Gun Control, Ignore Blue State Shootings
        (They also ignore crime statistics and self-defense statistics)

        or maybe…
        Belcher/Jason Whitlock/Bob Costas insanity, with Shultz opining that he’d strip pro athletes of their constitutional rights as a condition of employment, and Rhodes trying to blame the death of a black woman committed by a black man under a black President on white gun owners.

        Oh Crap. I must be a racist! but “Green Cheese” has to be the ultimate retort and response I have heard to date. I am stunned as well.

      • 02casper December 5, 2012 / 10:17 pm

        Cluster December 5, 2012 at 8:18 pm #

        “Casper,

        Obama got EVERYTHING he wanted for the first two years, did you forget that?”

        I didn’t forget it because it didn’t happen. As we discussed some time ago the Democrats actually held had a 60 member majority in the Senate for about 9 months. He still managed to pass the stimulus that stopped us from going into a depression and Obamacare in that time.

        dbschmidt,
        You asked for a policy that worked, I gave you one. Regardless of what you may think, it is the most popular social program out there. Now please give me a conservative policy that has worked, using the same rules you gave me.

      • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 10:45 pm

        Casper,

        Let me say this in terms that even you can understand. There was not one piece of legislation that Obama put forth that failed to pass from January 2009 – January 2011.

      • Cluster December 5, 2012 / 10:51 pm

        Casper,

        Conservative programs? Try the 1994 Welfare reform that Gingrich convinced Clinton to sign. Or how about school vouchers in Washington DC that were allowing inner city, poor children to excel in the schools of their choice before Obama stopped it. Or how about the pension reforms Gov Walker out in place in WI that now have the state out of debt. Want more?

        And just to state again, social security is not a success. Only by your liberal standard could a program headed straight towards bankruptcy be considered a success.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:56 pm

        catspuke

        Social Security. it’s been around for over 75 years and has kept millions of seniors out of poverty.

        BULL S#!T!!
        No it hasent, it is OUR MONEY taken from us at the point of a gun, then a pittance partially repaid by THEIR (govt) dictates.

    • tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 8:34 pm

      cappy: “Of course if those actions result in a better economy, the Republican party is dead.”

      They haven’t yet. ObAMATEUR does not want a balanced approach. IF he did, he would also be talking about spending cuts and not more failed stimulus spending.

    • dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 9:22 pm

      Cluster,

      I am another firm believer in giving Obama everything he wants as long as he owns up to the economy and doesn’t pull a “Bush’s fault” (which it wasn’t), or votes “Present” once again. Then again ~

      Fiscal Cliff Notes: Part II
      by Thomas Sowell
      http://www.rightwingnews.com/column-2/fiscal-cliff-notes-part-ii/
      (don’t kill the messenger)

      The official statistics which show plainly how wrong Barack Obama is can be found in his own “Economic Report of the President” for 2012, on page 411. You can look it up.

      You may be able to find a copy of the “Economic Report of the President” for 2012 at your local public library. Or you can buy a hard copy from the Government Printing Office or download an electronic version from the Internet.

      For those who find that “a picture is worth a thousand words,” they need only see the graphs published in the November 30th issue of Investor’s Business Daily.

      What both the statistical tables in the “Economic Report of the President” and the graphs in Investor’s Business Daily show is that (1) tax revenues went up– not down– after tax rates were cut during the Bush administration, and (2) the budget deficit declined, year after year, after the cut in tax rates that have been blamed by Obama for increasing the deficit.

      Indeed, the New York Times reported in 2006: “An unexpectedly steep rise in tax revenues from corporations and the wealthy is driving down the projected budget deficit this year.”

      Go look it up–do some research. Never mind, it might damage your fragile image of “the One.”

    • M. Noonan December 5, 2012 / 9:31 pm

      If usury, fake money, crony-capitalism, creeping fascism and such bring about peace, prosperity and liberty then the fact is that we on our side will have been wrong about everything…but, I assure you, we aren’t. But, you want your way, you got it, as far as I’m concerned. And when it all falls apart I just want you to have the guts to tell me you’re sorry.

    • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 1:22 pm

      catspuke

      the GOP is already dead, the country is 90% dead, you, the libs, commies and the POS should be proud.

  5. dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 7:57 pm

    Brought forward from a previous thread; however, I wouldn’t want all the Proggies and Libs to comment on the behavior of their Dear Leader. Why Casper thinks things are just wonderful in Democratic Land.

    This is kind of off-topic but after all it is about the Motor city of Detroit. Another Democrat paradise of unicorn farts and prosperity. No? Don’t tell me they need help?

    Detroit councilwoman to Obama: We voted for you, now bail us out.

    “Our people in an overwhelming way supported the re-election of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership on that,” said Watson. “Of course, not just that, but why not?”

    Nearly 75 percent of Wayne County voters pulled the lever for Obama in November.

    http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/20264712/detroit-councilwoman-to-obama-we-supported-you-now-support-us

    “Quid pro quo” — Geez Wally, isn’t that illegal in politics? But we have been in recovery since 2009 and it is going so well that Citi just laid off another 11,000 employees.

    While on the subject of bailouts–today’s offense;
    Obama allowed the bailouts to grant money without the authority to do so. “No money shall be drawn from the treasury, but in consequence of appropriations made by law.” Article 1, Section 9, Clause 7 U.S.Constitution

  6. Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:24 pm

    I was going by memory on that one – still a majority. Now let me see you address Obama’s lies. Try this one:

    “I plan to close Gitmo within my first term”

    Or how about this one

    “I plan to cut the deficit in half by the end of my first term”

    • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 6:30 pm

      ispit

      pretty hard to do when you realize the mess left by the Republicans could not have been fixed by any president

      what complete and utter nonsense……..

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 6:33 pm

        iSpit

        “Democrats dominated in Bush’s last 2 years
        October 12, 2012 5:10 PM

        No one seems to remember that President Bush’s last two years were dominated by a very liberal Democrat Congress — both House and Senate.

        Did they have nothing to do with how things turned out during those final two years that the current administration complains about?

        President Obama was a member of that Congress so what he blames Bush for was partly due to him and that Congress.”

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 7:30 pm

        neo,
        Velma is a lying sack o’ Crap ain’t she?

        Democrats controlled both houses of Congress after 2006 when unemployment was < 5%
        George Bush signed his last Republican Budget in October 2006.
        George Bush's signed his last Democrat Budget in October
        2007.
        Democrats didn’t send a Budget to Bush in 2008; they held it for Obama to sign in February 2009.
        Democrats created the crises in 2008.
        Democrats controlled all legislation until 2011.
        Democrats passed Obama’s bills with no republican votes in the House.

        Democrats OWN this mess.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 8:11 pm

        catspuke

        typical crybaby leftist snitch….wah wah wah

        However the count did not attack her, he posted an opinion as did I.

    • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 6:43 pm

      isit

      the party of no, no, no, no. They didn’t want Obama to succeed on anything even if it meant the country went over the cliff.

      Good GRIEF are you maxines daughter?
      dumb and dumber come to mind…..do you really believe this drivel?

      We have a representative republic, that means the GOP is there to REPRESENT those who sent them there,
      THAT MEANS WE WANT them to oppose the marxist muslim usurper’s idea of fundamentally transforming America into Haiti , Somalia or detroit or any marxist banana republic for that matter.

      The party of no? well against the party of marxism, islam, sodomy and theft of OPM I say YES YES YES to NO NO NO!!

  7. watsonthethird December 5, 2012 / 8:27 pm

    Is this really an open thread? As in, I can provide an update of the current vote count of the 2012 presidential election and the number of states that have certified their results as of today? The last time I reported this, it was deleted for being off topic.

  8. Cluster December 5, 2012 / 8:35 pm

    You folks are old, white and angry. – Mitch

    And there it is folks. That didn’t take long. The racism card has been played, not surprisingly by a liberal

    Mitch, tell me why you want to compromise with old angry white people? I am telling you that I want you and Obama to have everything you want. Why won’t you accept that?

    You will notice that posts with content like that you quote here have been removed and will be removed. //Moderator

    • tiredoflibbs December 5, 2012 / 9:33 pm

      “Why won’t you accept that?”

      Mitchie is scared that the repeated liberal policies (which have failed in the past) will fail again.

      mitchie did not take long to resort to his usual ways. SInce no one bought the crazy he was selling, he could not help himself.

      And because Mitch has resorted to his old ways in spite of the reboot of the blog his posts are no longer here. //Moderator

  9. dbschmidt December 5, 2012 / 8:53 pm

    Oh my, I am not sure I have recovered from the devastating “green cheese” retort; however, I find it kind of strange Mitch is speaking of “to honor our debt obligations” when Obama has not only run up the four (consecutive is a bonus) largest debts in history of this nation but also more than all other Presidents combined. Ouch, green cheese again.

    • 02casper December 5, 2012 / 10:33 pm

      dbschmidt,
      I would still like to see some of the history links you have.

      • 02casper December 6, 2012 / 9:44 am

        GMB,
        Thanks for the link.

      • Cluster December 6, 2012 / 10:38 am

        Let barky have everything he wants?

        GMB,

        Unfortunately, I think that is what needs to happen. We need to let them fail on their own, much like parents need to let their children fail miserably before they will listen. Sometimes it’s the only alternative, and liberals are a lot like children.

        I believe only then will our message resonate. As it is now, too many people are enamored with the handouts, promises, and flowery rhetoric of the progressives, which you and I both know are bound to fail. The ironic thing is that the people that voted for barky will be hurt the most, but that’s they wanted – so let’s let them have it.

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 12:43 pm

        Cluster,

        I don’t know if you caught Ann Coulter on Hannity last night, looked like a discussion between Spook and I recently. She could have been talking to the California Republicans in the 1980s; We (California Repubs) stood up for conservative principles without compromise, we were the heirs to Reagan, we had the largest most lucrative economy in the Nation, we demonstrated how business friendly climates grow economies (Reagan, Deukmejian) and anti-business hurt the State (Brown, Brown, Wilson). We refused to support RINOs or compromise on fiscal or social issues. We were right, but that’s little consolation now.

        What did we get for our recalcitrance? Dimocrat Super-Majorities; Feinstein, Boxer, Pelosi, the worst run state in the Union, NO Republican presence iat any level in State government, the highest taxes, highest poverty with the highest cost of living, Teachers’ Unions that produce Socialist/Communist propaganda for government school consumption without fear of any retribution, Prison Unions dictating policy, the list is endless.

        A real Dimocrat Paradise! We’re Detroit on a Grand Scale!

        So, to my friends that think we should resist the Dimocrats that won the election and refuse to compromise on taxes, spending or anything else because the “establishment Republicans” need to demonstrate “backbone” I give you Ann’s warning … You’ll LOSE! And a warning form a California Conservative … You’re not prepared for what losing brings!

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 1:37 pm

        we have already lost, we are beating a dead horse.

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 1:56 pm

        I guess it’s time to open my wrists and pass from this earthly prison.

        Not because I believe we’ve lost the fight for the hearts and minds of our countrymen, but because I may have to listen to that voice for one more minute.

        I swear to Buddha neo, if you post her video again I’ll either blow my brains out or jab ice-picks in both ears.

        Screeching Harpy Alert!

        Moderators have already taken steps to make viewing video links voluntary and apologize for the glitch that opened this video for you against your will. //Moderator

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 2:40 pm

        RoR

        do both…NOW

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 2:44 pm

        RoR

        I swear to Buddha neo,

        Whaaaat noy allahbabba?

        budda WHO?

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 2:51 pm

        Yes neo, messaging.

        Romney didn’t lose on fiscal conservatism; he lost on Social Issues like abortion, Big Bird, birth-control pills, food stamps and gay marriage.

        He was defeated because he was defined as a knuckle-dragging chauvinist who wanted a war ion women and minorities seen (picking our fruits and vegetables) and not heard.

        Are those issues really what Republicans are about? Or are those the only issues the media and Democrats claim we care about?

      • Cluster December 6, 2012 / 3:00 pm

        Okay, someone with the inherent likability of Tom Hanks, the self-deprecating humility of Gary Sinise, the imposing presence of Tom Selleck, communication skills of Anthony Robbins, squeaky clean personal history of Mitt Romney, Constitutional sense of Antonin Scalia, empathy and persona connection of Mia Love, Historical sense of Newt Gingrich and the politics of Steve King and Jeff flake .- Count

        Well that shouldn’t be hard to find. LOL. Actually Marco Rubio gave a pretty damn good speech the other night.

        But first we have to quiet the locusts within our Party that drown out our message of smaller government with screeches of ideological purity.

        AGREED. 100%

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 3:06 pm

        Marco Rubio would be great if not for that whole “natural Born Citizen” thing.

        … and Reagan dealt with the purists and the dimocrats too.

        He did it with grace and humor; did I mention our candidate must have the sense of humor of Craig Ferguson and the delivery of Ricky Gervais?

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:20 pm

        yet we threw Alan West under the bus and boner has fired all the conservatives off committees, the GOP is now the DncGop minus a few commies and homosexuals, but im sure they are working on that as we speak.

        We sat back and let the dnc and their lapdogs destroy Sarah, Cain, West, and many more yet left mitt alone…they picked a candidate just a click better than mcLame for us and we let it happen, and for that we lost……we cant pick a loser then try to prop him up with a great VP.

      • ricorun December 7, 2012 / 11:42 pm

        neocon: We sat back and let the dnc and their lapdogs destroy Sarah, Cain, West, and many more yet left mitt alone…they picked a candidate just a click better than mcLame for us and we let it happen, and for that we lost…

        In my best John Lovitz voice let me say, “Yeah, that’s the ticket!”

      • neocon01 December 8, 2012 / 6:19 pm

        reek-0

        “Yeah, that’s the ticket!”

        and a nuyk nuyk nuyk to you……BOINK!

      • ricorun December 7, 2012 / 11:10 pm

        Bean Counter: Marco Rubio would be great if not for that whole “natural Born Citizen” thing.

        Oh no, not that line again. But if that wasn’t bad enough, you follow it with, “did I mention our candidate must have the sense of humor of Craig Ferguson and the delivery of Ricky Gervais?”

        Well, perhaps the sense of humor and the delivery per se, but the content of both might rile some important feathers. In fact, it’s almost like suggesting Eddie Izzard should be chairman of the RNC.

        … upon further thought, maybe that’s not such a bad idea!

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:06 pm

        ROR

        I do not agree,
        when 47% of Americans pay NO income tax, illegals by the millions “vote”, we are over represented by a 12% minority that is only 200 years out of the jungle, who have embraced OPM and marxism, we are trillions in debt with trillions more to follow.
        when we have citys full with people who cant read past the third grade level, we are murdering a million and a half babies a year,sodomy in the streets in california, the dismissal of God and his laws.
        you stick with the message. this is not 1980 the times they are a changing. Im more in line with Spook or Cluster it will take a complete crash, or a civil war to right this sinking ship.

        read this

        Nationally, Obama won the popular vote by 4,452,910 — but because 4,516,701 of those came from California and New York, Romney and the GOP can reasonably argue that he won the rest of the country by just about 64,000 votes.

        Across the country, Obama won by large margins in a relatively small number of counties — and, within those counties, by overwhelming majorities in some, but usually not all, precincts. More than 40% of Obama’s California margin came, for example, from about 90% of the precincts in Los Angeles County alone.

        This effect is clearer in states like Ohio, where Obama’s 150,891 overall vote margin came mainly from the 256,581-vote surplus he amassed in just 900 Cuyahoga county precincts. Similarly, he counted 588,781 votes to beat Romney by nearly five to one in Philadelphia County, but he won Pennsylvania by a net of only 309,115 votes.

        What’s going on is that big numbers from a relative handful of precincts can swing statewide totals to democratic presidential and senatorial candidates despite widespread popular support for GOP policies in congressional and other district races. Overall, Romney won about two thirds of the county-level contests in the country, but he lost state wide counts to high turnouts and virtual unanimity in precincts where decades of redistricting have combined with the Democrat tendency toward self-ghettoization to create conservative no-go zones

        Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/who_elected_obama.html#ixzz2EId9yhJ9

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:16 pm

        This is the GOP test.

        Given the opportunity, will Republicans reduce the scope and size of government? Liberate educational institutions from totalitarian ideology? Thwart illegal immigration from countries whose political culture is antithetical to ‘rule of law’ and ‘individual freedom’?

        For Republicans, restoration of personal freedom is the golden ring. Nothing short of a wholesale rejection of the socialist takeover of public institutions will lead to a retraction of governmental intrusion in people’s lives.

        The same authoritarian education, regulatory, and immigration agenda consuming the federal bureaucracy defines the culture and economy of the states. This is an unfortunate national development because the federal government, from a constitutional perspective, should be more narrowly focused.

        Nevertheless, the oppressive relationship of national and state politics provides an opportunity for Republicans to challenge the efficacy of national Democratic policies by showcasing their respective policies at the state level. Consider how Romneycare, the Massachusetts takeover of health decisions for millions of state citizens, morphed into the blueprint for the national healthcare plan for America. Why not launch a state demonstration project for the Republicans?

        North Carolina provides the perfect petri dish for testing the Republican platform of lower taxes, smaller government, and individual responsibility. North Carolina has what many ‘red’ states do not — municipalities brimming with a highly educated citizenry, a large and growing population, rich resources and high-tech industries.

        Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/12/gop_rebirth_or_capitulation.html#ixzz2EIifKPF3

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:22 pm

        RoR

        DAMN Random Placement!

        it’s an evil plot I tells ya

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 3:23 pm

        I’ll try one more time to put this answer somewhere below the question.

        neo: “embraced OPM and marxism, we are trillions in debt with trillions more to follow.
        when we have citys full with people who cant read past the third grade level, we are murdering a million and a half babies a year,sodomy in the streets in california, the dismissal of God and his laws.

        And those people voted on Social Issues, not of fiscal issues like the Trillions in Debt over which they couldn’t care less.

        You can give up if you wish and pray for a calamitous disaster; bank failure/breakdown of society/starvation/cannibalism/dogs and cats sleeping together.

        But for me I’ll keep fighting the battles I know we can win; with the right person and the right message … a FISCAL message

        Elect the fiscal conservatives and the social issues will follow; the same can’t be said of the reverse. Social Conservatives in a failing economy breed discontent. social conservatives feed the meme that the Democrat Sycophantic Media peddles; Republicans care only about rich-white-straight-Christian-Men.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:33 pm

        my answer, those messages will fall on deaf ears, they want OPM and nothing else and they vote for it.
        I have a business, a wife, three sons, three grand sons (one deceased) and a grand daughter on the way.
        I want or pray for nothing of the kind of a collapse or civil war.

        I merely feel we are so far down the path of destruction it is too late and only a total collapse or civil war will bring this all to a screeching halt…THAT I PRAY AGAINST.
        I simply feel we are Germany in 1939 cheering our new fuhrer……..

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 3:33 pm

        The people voting on social issues were voting against Romney and the Republicans. If there were no social issues at issue (pardon the redundundancy) those people wouldn’t vote. Get abortion and birth control off the national dialog and informed people with real interest in the outcome will vote.

        Having said that, wasn’t Spook discussing the Religious Right Fundamentalists staying home rather than vote for a Mormon?

        I don’t know about you but I sure as hell want those narrow-minded zealots to stay home on election day, they’re worse than the takers and mooches.

      • Jeremiah December 6, 2012 / 3:40 pm

        I don’t know about you but I sure as hell want those narrow-minded zealots to stay home on election day, they’re worse than the takers and mooches.

        Oh boy, you just took that samurai to your own throat.

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 3:55 pm

        If these Anti-Mormon bigots represent anything Republican I’ll eat my own head.

        If it takes bending over for these fools to get elected, I’ll gladly stay in the minority.

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 4:00 pm

        neo,

        Romney is the same guy fighting the same kind of fight he fought in the primaries when many hereabouts were bemoaning how he fought dirty, underhanded, mean-spirited, and without conscience to defeat Santorum, Perry and Gingrich.

        He can’t be simultaneously too wimpy and too mean.

        Romney wasn’t McCain or Dole.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:09 pm

        count

        when many hereabouts were bemoaning how he fought dirty, underhanded, mean-spirited, and without conscience to defeat Santorum, Perry and Gingrich.

        you are correct,
        but that was against the GOP, He quickly ended that style against al Ubama…….. we are fighting against marxist chi cago masters who live and breathe alinsky. They fight dirty, they lie, they use class envy and warfare, and are santi Klaus to dumbed down useful idiots to drones and takers.

        The GOP has to develop a long range plan how to defeat those tactics them implement it.The left did in the 1960’s and it is now where we are at.
        We cant become them to defeat them.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:11 pm

        🙂

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:27 pm

        are you Fing KIDDING???????

        Ethics Probe out of the way, *****Maxine Waters****** Becomes Top-Ranking Dem on House Financial Services Committee

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 5:08 pm

        TERM LIMITS, NOW!!!!!!!

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 5:43 pm

        count

        I forgot to mention Maxine Waters

        LOL

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:20 pm

        Romney wasn’t McCain or Dole.

        sadly he was at the end of the day.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 4:02 pm

        If these Anti-Mormon bigots represent anything Republican I’ll eat my own head.

        I 100% agree, I just dont think there are really that many of them, I never have met one person who would not vote for mitt because he is a Morman.
        I still think mitt was a RINO and that alone turned many off as did the RINO mcLame.
        The paulbots also stayed home in droves……..mitt was my last choice and i unenthusiastically voted for him as any one but the usurping muslim commie.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:54 pm

        count

        I don’t know about you but I sure as hell want those narrow-minded zealots to stay home on election day, they’re worse than the takers and mooches.

        islamic fundy’s maybe,
        99% of Christian fundys are not the fire breathing nut cases like the KKKoran pastor in Fla, or the westborough baptist church group. They are God fearing hard working tax paying citizens. But they are in the minority in this country but still vote GOP, they do not dictate the GOP platform.
        However how do we convince the lefts narrow minded zealots to stay home?
        I always said have a good strong leader who will mud wrestle with the left, answer their accusations,we needed a minority who walked the walk, not a RINO with his sleeves rolled up.
        We need a Reagan with an Alan West at his side we could have won.
        YOU cant win a fight with the Hells Angles with pillows, and queensberry rules.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:56 pm

        count

        Having said that, wasn’t Spook discussing the Religious Right Fundamentalists staying home rather than vote for a Mormon?

        I hope there are no more than ten of those in the US.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 3:27 pm

        RoR

        I swear to Buddha neo, if you post her video again

        rather than shooting the messenger how about refuting her message?
        is she right? or wrong?
        explain why?

      • The Return of Rathaven December 7, 2012 / 12:03 pm

        …opened this video against your will.//Moderator

        Was that sarcasm Moderator?

        Moi? //Moderator

      • neocon01 December 7, 2012 / 3:06 pm

        mod

        LOL

      • Cluster December 6, 2012 / 1:47 pm

        Count,

        My thinking is that at this point, we have to let America hit rock bottom before our message will resonate again. Reagan was THE great communicator, but we have nothing like him right now, and our message is completely lost. So instead of trying to find that voice, it will be quicker to just let the Democrats implode – and they will.

        Prop 30 in CA just rose the top marginal rate to 13.3%, add to that the soon to be new Fed rate of 40%, and you have a top rate of 53.3% excluding Soc Sec and Medicare. Add to that some more – sales taxes, gas taxes, etc. and you will have unprecedented economic misery in your state BUT that’s what the people of your state wanted.

        Once they get tired of paying those taxes, with nothing but decay to show for it, maybe they will wake up. I am tired of trying to save liberals from themselves – so let’s let them live out their dreams and nightmares. Obama may think that he has won the day, but he will surely have lost the future if he does get his way – SO LET HIM

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 2:03 pm

        Cluster,

        Reagan helped pull us back from the brink (in California as well as Nationally in 1980) not because we hit bottom, but because he made us look over the precipice and see what was ahead of us.

        There is no doubt his predictions were accurate; we were well on our way; double digit inflation, interest rates, unemployment, misery index … and we might have bought into the liberals vision of more government to save us from more government.

        But, Reagan had a different approach;

        Messaging, son, messaging!

      • Cluster December 6, 2012 / 2:12 pm

        I get the messaging – BUT WHO!!

        Who do we have right now that can bring that message home the way Reagan did?

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 2:38 pm

        Was that a question Cluster, or were you doing your Hooty-Owl impersonation?

        Okay, someone with the inherent likability of Tom Hanks, the self-deprecating humility of Gary Sinise, the imposing presence of Tom Selleck, communication skills of Anthony Robbins, squeaky clean personal history of Mitt Romney, Constitutional sense of Antonin Scalia, empathy and persona connection of Mia Love, Historical sense of Newt Gingrich and the politics of Steve King and Jeff flake .

        But first we have to quiet the locusts within our Party that drown out our message of smaller government with screeches of ideological purity.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 2:42 pm

        Messaging, son, messaging!

        REALLY?
        16 TRILLION in debt and adding TRILLIONS more and it’s messaging?
        HUH??

      • GMB December 6, 2012 / 7:32 pm

        Then lose. If handing the likes of you a few more pennies in your pocket means not being able to look myself in the mirror or look at my family and see respect, I’ll prepare for the coming revolution.

        Screw you and your money. Take it to the grave with you.

      • ricorun December 7, 2012 / 10:22 pm

        Bean Counter: So, to my friends that think we should resist the Dimocrats that won the election and refuse to compromise on taxes, spending or anything else because the “establishment Republicans” need to demonstrate “backbone” I give you Ann’s warning … You’ll LOSE! And a warning form a California Conservative … You’re not prepared for what losing brings!

        While I think your argument is a bit overwraught, and while I generally think Coulter is nothing more than a provacateur, I agree with her central premise: allow Obama to raise taxes on those making in excess of $250K. Doing so is not a complete capitulation on a general principle. It is merely an acknowledgement that Obama hammered that specific point over, and over, and over, for the entire election season, and he won. You can’t blame that on “the media”, because Obama created the story in much the same way as “climate deniers” created the story about climate change being a pile of crap. One could certainly criticize the media for merely parroting the narrative created by others, but that’s pretty much what they do nowadays. And you can’t hardly blame them because in the present world actual investigative reporting is too expensive, too controversial, and in the end too insignificant to matter to the bottom line. The media is not about principles first and foremost, they have to make money to survive.

        So I think it is appropriate to allow Obama that concession. But I think it should require a price. And I can think of two areas where the Republicans could make it stick (at least with the general populace). And those are these…

        1. Insist on cutting spending. That might be difficult to explain to the “everyman”, so it’s not a good idea to get draconian about it. But there is plenty of low-hanging fruit there — areas where spending can be reduced merely by increasing efficiency. And explaining what those areas are certainly would benefit from a better message. Unfortunately, I don’t think John Boehner is up to the task. I think it’s time for a replacement.

        2. Eliminate the loopholes for what Coulter called “the truly wealthy”. And IMO, the really cool part about that is the meme is already built in on both sides. Coulter blames “Hollywood, Warren Buffett, state and local taxes”. The Occupy Wall Street bunch blames banks and other major Wall Street entities. Granted, it’s probably too simple a dichotomy, constructed from too simple mind-sets on both sides, but you have to admit that both sides are attacking the same crowd (albeit from different sides). And thus, I think, a meme along those lines could have legs for the GOP. But that assumes they are serious about it. And while I do so hope they are, doing so would require turning their back on the seriously moneyed interests — interests that go a long way to getting them elected in the first place.

      • Amazona December 6, 2012 / 10:38 am

        And I’d still like to know if you teach your students what you believe, that if you believe in the Constitution you believe we should return to slavery and deny women the vote.

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 1:34 pm

        catspuke

        I would still like to see some of the history links you have.

        TRY doing your own homework “teach”

  10. M. Noonan December 5, 2012 / 9:27 pm

    Completely agree – and here’s the real kicker: all those liberals in New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc who voted so heavily for Obama are the people who will precisely suffer the most if Obama gets his way. Once again, it is crucial for everyone to remember that when Obama says “tax the rich” and “make millionaires and billionaires” pay their fair share, the reality is that Obama is going to nail to the tax freaking wall those who make $250,000.00 to a couple million a year…which sounds like it might be rich, but it ain’t all that rich when you’re living in, say, New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc. While those high-income earners living in high-cost-of-living areas think that Obama wants to tax people like Gates and Buffet the truth of the matter is that such persons as those don’t get hit much by income taxes because they don’t make much in taxable income. But because Obama said “tax the rich” and high-income liberals in high-cost areas said “hey, I’m not rich so its ok to vote for Obama”, it will just be so sweet when their own idiocy comes back to smack them.

    Heck with it; let’s raise the marginal rate for anyone making over $250,000.00 a year to 50%. 60%. High as any liberal can possibly dream. And let’s allow Obama to fudge on spending cuts. Give him the ability to raise the debt limit at will. You liberals want it? You got it. The only thing we’ll do is pass smart legislation out of the House which Reid will then kill in the Senate…it will be “for the record” as we wait for the complete and utter collapse…and a collapse which you liberals simply won’t be able to blame on us because we gave you every last thing you wanted.

    • irisspirit December 6, 2012 / 11:01 am

      We all know how bad Obama is for business. We have heard it over and over.

      http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/

      So where are all of those jobs that are suppose to be created by the corporate world if only they have low tax rates? And how is that trickle down working? I would think that with corporate profits being so high more employees would be getting raises, bonuses and more hiring. Why isn’t this working for the American worker?

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 11:45 am

        WOW!

        Corporate profits are up and wages are down; sounds like we have a real failure in the White House.

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) December 6, 2012 / 11:53 am

        Hey Rat, you know those “Corporations” in Velma’s report are just the Fortune 500 companies, a majority of which are run by dimocrats like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates right? early contributions to Romney were outpaced by massive contributions from these evil “corporations” to Obama.

        Repeat after me, CRONY CAPITALISTS Heart OBAMA ❤ ❤ ❤

      • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 1:31 pm

        Repeat after me, CRONY UNIONS Heart OBAMA ❤ ❤ ❤

      • The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 7:20 pm

        Mein Gott Velma, you’re a bitter vile old idiot aren’t you. No wonder your man left you. What happened? Did he kill himself rather than wake up next to you one more time?

        I didn’t “loose” an election have no plans of “loose-ing one later, and didn’t give any money to a “superpack” (whatever that is).

        Democrats controlled all the branches of Congress and the White House and life is more miserable for the American worker; Obama and his minions give Billions in Wall Street Bailouts and the recipients made record profits “last year”.

        Corporate profits don’t drive hiring decision; but I wouldn’t expect a fat ugly old vile hag like you to understand how business works.

      • M. Noonan December 6, 2012 / 9:33 pm

        Iris,

        So you say to the man who has routinely and for years declared his hostility to Big Corporation…you really gotta start paying attention..

      • M. Noonan December 7, 2012 / 11:05 am

        Iris,

        You were responding to me: I’m the person hostile to Big Corporation…Obama is Big Corporation’s tool.

        Not that I think you’ll actually read what I write, nor attempt to comprehend it if you do read it, but I’ll give this a shot, just for the record:

        Big Corporation and Big Government are two sides of the same, disgusting coin. They work hand in glove to protect their own, vested interests. They are wrecking our nation. Via tax and regulatory policy – though some times from different motives – Big Corporation and Big Government seek to wipe out the wealth of individuals and families so that people will become dependent upon one or the other (or both) entities. As a for-instance: Big Corporation hates it when people grow their own food as that eats in to the profits of corporate food providers (they hate it even more when small, local farmers get yields high enough to sell a surplus on the market); so, they lobby Big Government to set up a host of regulations which, in their final result, are nothing more than a means of prohibiting individuals and families from growing their own food and/or selling a surplus on the market (this is why, for instance, there actually is a federal law which prohibits the sale of raw milk across State lines…only because corporate milk sellers don’t want the competition). On and on and on it goes like that – if you are a small to mid-sized individually owned or family business then there are an ever-increasing number of taxes and regulations which make it ever harder to operate…and next to impossible to start up new, if you were just thinking of getting in to business.

        The reason our economy has atrophied is because of this – and until Big Government and Big Corporation are destroyed nothing will ever fundamentally improve. You need to entirely re-think your world view, and I mean from top to bottom. You have been greatly deceived.

  11. GMB December 6, 2012 / 8:47 am

    Let barky have everything he wants? I guess it is easier than opposing the proggies agenda. Try and win by default?

    This is the establishment repubs biggest problem. Never ever anytime to stand up and be counted. This is why the national establishment repubs keep picking losers and will continue to bleed support.

    Finding a backbone is never the answer.

    Let’s hear it for the “next most important election of our lifetime”

    2014 !!!!

  12. GMB December 6, 2012 / 10:47 am

    Here’s another one for you Casper. I can not find an example of this kind on of place in the United States. In my opinion this is nothing except the failure of socialism and a top down type of governing. Again in my opinion this is the sort of government you wish.

    http://englishrussia.com/2012/12/02/the-story-of-one-armor-repair-plant/#more-114843

    Being a military man most of my life, and even being that these are ex-soviet weapons, viewing these pictures of this bone yard were sort of depressing.

    However these weapons were destroyed and most likely never used in battle is a testimony of the success of Ronald Reagans vision on defense. Defense which is listed in our Constitution as the federal governments prime duty.

  13. thetruthshallsetyoufree2012 December 6, 2012 / 11:27 am

    Starting with the reboot of the blog, from now on posts that appear to be intended only to insult or attack or disrupt the blog will be removed. //Moderator

    • neocon01 December 6, 2012 / 1:32 pm

      thetruthshallsetyoufree2012 December 6, 2012 at 11:27 am #

      🙂 🙂 🙂

  14. Jeremiah December 6, 2012 / 1:50 pm

    Did y’all read that Stansberry advisory report? About Obama giving permits to drill all these shale fields up in places like South Dakota, and various other states, and how the United States is going to become the next Saudi Arabia of oil production in the western hemisphere. And how all this money from taxing and licensing these drillers will vastly increase Obama’s power, billions of dollars will flow into his coffers…so instead of helping the United States, this new “oil boom” as Stansberry is calling it, will go towards buying Obama more votes for a “third term” … he says he may not get back in, but he will run his wife Michelle, or even Hillary Clinton, to keep the same regime/policies in control. It will triple, if not quadruple the number of recipients on welfare.

    So my question is, is it a true story? Is Obama really taking advantage of these resources to make America energy independent, only to empower himself and the liberal left?

  15. The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 3:18 pm

    “embraced OPM and marxism, we are trillions in debt with trillions more to follow.
    when we have citys full with people who cant read past the third grade level, we are murdering a million and a half babies a year,sodomy in the streets in california, the dismissal of God and his laws.”

    And those people voted on Social Issues, not of fiscal issues like the Trillions in Debt over which they couldn’t care less.

    You can give up if you wish and pray for a calamitous disaster; bank failure/breakdown of society/starvation/cannibalism/dogs and cats sleeping together.

    But for me I’ll keep fighting the battles I know we can win; with the right person and the right message.

    Elect the fiscal conservatives and the social issues will follow; the same can’t be said of the reverse. Social Conservatives in a failing economy breed discontent. social conservatives feed the meme that the Democrat Sycophantic Media peddles; Republicans care only about rich-white-straight-Christian-Men.

  16. The Return of Rathaven December 6, 2012 / 3:19 pm

    neo: “embraced OPM and marxism, we are trillions in debt with trillions more to follow.
    when we have citys full with people who cant read past the third grade level, we are murdering a million and a half babies a year,sodomy in the streets in california, the dismissal of God and his laws.”

    And those people voted on Social Issues, not of fiscal issues like the Trillions in Debt over which they couldn’t care less.

    You can give up if you wish and pray for a calamitous disaster; bank failure/breakdown of society/starvation/cannibalism/dogs and cats sleeping together.

    But for me I’ll keep fighting the battles I know we can win; with the right person and the right message.

    Elect the fiscal conservatives and the social issues will follow; the same can’t be said of the reverse. Social Conservatives in a failing economy breed discontent. social conservatives feed the meme that the Democrat Sycophantic Media peddles; Republicans care only about rich-white-straight-Christian-Men.

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