We Conservatives Are So Stupid

At least, that is the allegation of a new “study” – from Pajamas Media:

…The results of a 4 year study show that Americans who obtain their news from Fox News channel have an average IQ of 80, which represents a 20 point deficit when compared to the U.S. national average of 100. IQ, or intelligence quotient, is the international standard of assessing intelligence.

Researchers at The Intelligence Institute, a conservative non-profit group, tested 5,000 people using a series of tests that measure everything from cognitive aptitude to common sense and found that people who identified themselves as Fox News viewers and ‘conservative’ had, on average, significantly lower intelligent quotients. Fox Viewers represented 2,650 members of the test group…

The study, itself, is bogus – as is the allegation that it came from some sort of conservative group (you can read the linked article to see just how laughably fake the whole “study” actually is).  But, fake as it is, that is the way liberals view us – we’re conservatives because we’re just too stupid to be smart liberals.

To be sure, we are politically stupid – that I grant.  The reason for this is that we don’t live and breath politics:  we don’t hold it as the be-all and end-all of existence as liberals do.  Only a liberal, for instance, could have thought up political correctness, which is nothing more than a demand that whatever is politically fashionable at the moment among the elite become obligatory among everyone.  You can only think  up something like that if you hold that what is political trumps what is personal.  But while political correctness is idiotic, in practical, living terms it is highly effective in purely political terms:  it allows you to control the debate by either insisting that everyone affirm some particular view or, more often, condemn some idea…with what is being condemned always being something that is traditionally held by the broad majority of the American people.  We’re stupid in the sense that we let them get away with it.

But in terms of actual living, I wouldn’t trust a liberal with a burnt out match.  These are people, after all, who think you can craft a national health care system for a nation of more than 300 million people, spread across four time zones and having places as completely different in demographics, economics and philosophy as, say, San Francisco, California and Birmingham, Alabama.  They also think that incurring debt creates economic growth and that spending is more important than saving (we might get some liberal denials on that, but the whole of liberal, Keynesian economics is based upon the laughable fallacy that spending is better than saving).

Preening themselves on their credentials, secure in well-paid Big Government and/or Big Corporation jobs, liberals look out upon us and see a great, unwashed mass of ignorant bigots, bitterly clinging to guns and the Bible…meanwhile, their Great and Glorious Leader presides over a bankrupt nation and their solution is to raise taxes on “the rich” which will pay for 8 days of spending…brilliant!

UPDATE:  76% favor cutting spending across the board.  In a very real sense, we’ve won the argument…we’ve just failed to craft a plan which gets us back in to the White House with full control of Congress.  We figure that out over the next four years and we’ll be unstoppable.

41 thoughts on “We Conservatives Are So Stupid

  1. dbschmidt December 9, 2012 / 11:45 pm


    As part of my previous posts–I need an answer first to your question but in full. “Are we politically stupid or are the opponents politically ignorant?” We, the right, understand the consequences and still have failed. The opponents did not even try and won through ignorance. Bigger fool? Us?

    • M. Noonan December 10, 2012 / 12:03 am


      I’d have to say that a lot of our problem is ignorance on our side – not the willful ignorance of the left, but the ignorance of habit. We’re used to things as they are and so we conservatives don’t really understand what we need to do. To be a conservative in 2012 (as it has for decades) requires us to be revolutionaries – provides we also understand what any decent, humane revolution is supposed to do: restore the good of what was.

      The problem with Mitt Romney – and why he was about my 6th choice in 2012 – was that, fine a man as he is, he wasn’t a revolutionary. He would have done a lot of good for us, but he wouldn’t have engaged in the deep, vital changes necessary to restore the good of what was. This, more than anything else, explains why he lost – he continued to work within the framework provided by liberals. Unlike Reagan in 1980, he refused to break the mold and go where no conservative had gone before.

      In a sense, we are the greater fools because we continue to let them set the terms of debate…but once give us a candidate who will unashamedly campaign in San Francisco, then we’ll be well on our way to breaking the left for good, even if we lose some elections along the way. In the end, we either believe in what we say, or we don’t – and if we do believe that our programs and policies are best and good for everyone then everyone had better hear them…but they won’t as long as we surrender half the political board to them and continue to use their MSM to present ourselves to the American people and as long as campaign like the experts say we should. We lost in 2012 because we didn’t really try to defeat the left…we acted all along as if we just wanted to be made the responsible custodians of the liberal’s mess…could we pretty please just get the economy rolling again so we could afford, for another 20 years, the liberal State? That is what we asked – and even in that, we were rejected. Once we ask the people – all of them – to give us the chance to unleash them and make America great again, then we’ll no longer be stupid, no longer playing by their rules…and able to win.

  2. 02casper December 9, 2012 / 11:56 pm

    I agree that this study doesn’t pass the smell test. In fact, I’m pretty sure the whole thing is a hoax. A 20% point deficit is just about statistally impossible.

  3. Jeremiah December 10, 2012 / 8:42 am

    People who voted for Obama should look in the mirror, and they will see stupid. Including those who wrote this article.

  4. Cluster December 10, 2012 / 9:10 am

    Politically speaking, liberalism can only survive if there are constituencies to rule over and to impose that rule, those constituenticies need to be either financially dependent, or intellectually inferior.

    Conservatism largely demands that the individual is financially independent and intelligent enough to adapt, grow, and take care of themselves.

    • Retired Spook December 10, 2012 / 10:05 am

      Conservatism largely demands that the individual is financially independent and intelligent enough to adapt, grow, and take care of themselves.

      Well, that certainly explains why Conservatism is losing, LOL. There is a substantial portion of our population that doesn’t have the common sense to come in out of the rain, so the “adapt, grow and take care of themselves” part I largely agree with, although I don’t have a problem taking care of those who can’t take care of themselves. It’s why a substantial part of my annual charitable contributions go to the Salvation Army and Wounded Warrior Project, and, in fact, Conservatives in general give substantially more to charity than Liberals do. I don’t actually think you meant that you have to be financially independent to be a Conservative, did you, Cluster? If that was what you really meant, then we are, indeed, in deep poop.

      • Cluster December 10, 2012 / 10:47 am

        No, of course not. That’s why I said “largely demands”. It is important that those who are capable to perform, allowing for those incapable to be taken care of.

      • Amazona December 10, 2012 / 2:41 pm

        Yet conservatives for the most part vote for a political system they both understand and believe in as the best way to govern the country, while the vastly more “intelligent” Liberals vote on imaginary issues such as the invented “war on women” and the invented “racism of the Right” and the invented “right” of homosexuals to use a specific word to describe their relationships and the invented effort to DENY ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE FOR WOMEN and so on.

        It is so much smarter to vote on issues, real or not, while remaining ignorant of the political system hiding behind them—or so the Left would like us to believe.

    • Cluster December 10, 2012 / 12:24 pm

      A: Price of gas at $3.61 is still 29% higher than in January of 2009.

      How can we expect the rank and file liberal American to be smarter than those who tell them what to think?

      “conservatism is a racket for a lot of people to get very, very rich.” – Joe Scarborough – MSNBC

      • bardolf2 December 10, 2012 / 1:39 pm

        Where did you get the 29% figure?
        Why not pick June 2008 as a reference?

      • Amazona December 10, 2012 / 2:33 pm

        Joe ought to define “a lot”. I’d say it is about 80,000,000.

        Though “very very” is also typically vague, and is usually defined by a Liberal as just a little more than he has.

      • Amazona December 10, 2012 / 2:35 pm

        “Why not pick June 2008 as a reference?”

        Exactly. And then why not explain what George W. Bush has done since then to affect the price of gas.

        Sheesh, you guys—it is so racist to look at different aspects of the economy during the Obama administration by looking at, well, different aspects of the economy during the Obama administation.

      • bardolf2 December 10, 2012 / 7:56 pm


        Any chance you know where Cluster got his 29% figure?

        Driving the economy even further into the toiled which leads to a drop in oil prices (to get back to January 2009 levels) is just one more thing Obama needs to achieve in his second term.

      • Cluster December 10, 2012 / 8:12 pm


        You can’t figure out where I got that from? And you’re a college professor? All the information you need to derive your answer is in my response. Think that one through. hint: remember story problems?

      • Amazona December 10, 2012 / 9:10 pm

        “….remember story problems?”

        Sure. If a train leaves Chicago at 2:14 p.m. carrying 964 crooked politicians and is going east at 58 MPH, and a plane flies south out of Spokane at an altitude of 28,489 feet, is Obama still the worst president ever?

        A. You betcha
        B. Damn skippy
        C. 11—-and yes

    • Retired Spook December 10, 2012 / 2:42 pm

      Q2: Why isn’t this Obama’s fault?

      Don’t you mean, why doesn’t Obama get credit? If he had a hand in getting the refineries that caused the spike in price in the first place back on line, then, by all means, he should get credit.

      Gas around the Fort Wayne area is largely in the $3.29 to $3.39 range except for a handful of stations on the SE side of Fort Wayne that have been having a gas war the last couple weeks. We paid $3.29 last night, and, on the way back from Kansas on Saturday, we paid $2.97 on the north side of St. Louis. Locally we’ve been bouncing back and forth between $3.29 and $3.99 for the last year or so, and the gas price seems to have little correlation with the price of crude.

      • M. Noonan December 10, 2012 / 9:12 pm

        Lots of things go in to the price of gas – but, these days, a great deal of the price is caused by the fact that the United States has printed up about $3 trillion additional dollars since 2008…while China, Japan and the European Union have, collectively, printed up about $8 trillion worth of their respective currencies. That extra currency does come out and do things – the only things we’ve noticed so far is the high price of gas and the rapidly increasing price of food (partially disguised by retailers putting out smaller amounts for the old price)…but when the poop hits the fan, then you’ll see skyrocketing prices for everything as interest rates shoot for the Moon and the economy stagnates.

  5. bardolf2 December 10, 2012 / 12:21 pm

    Liberals know IQ tests are racist. Neoconehead watches FOX news. So Neo isn’t a racist QED.

    • Amazona December 10, 2012 / 2:31 pm

      Liberals know a lot of things that aren’t true, but this is balanced out by their not knowing so much that is.

    • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 3:36 pm

      Fox news and the bell curve?

      Who Knew?

  6. Retired Spook December 10, 2012 / 3:32 pm

    Completely OT, but we’re coming up on something of a milestone in a couple days. Twice on Wednesday, shortly after midnight and noon, the time and date will be 12:12/12/12/12. Nothing like that will happen again until 01:01AM and PM on January 1, 2101. Who knows what will happen to life expectancies between now and then. Maybe some of our younger readers will still be alive.

    • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 3:45 pm

      every lib I know smokes, are heavy drinkers, have medium jobs, have older cars, live in lower moderate houses, and have medium IQ’s.

      then we get to the innercity……………..

      • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 3:48 pm

        Fox racist?

        YOU BET…….SNL: Foxx Celebrates ‘Kill[ing] All The White People’ in New Film

      • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 4:01 pm

        damn low IQ pubbies……Oh Wait!!

        Chrysler Forced to Take Back 13 Union Workers Caught Drinking, Seemingly Getting High During Lunch

        ” … collective bargaining agreement and our relationship with the UAW.”

      • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 4:02 pm


        I could post their pic but baldork would think I got it from Fox and that would be raaacist.

      • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 4:04 pm

        STRAIGHT from FOX news,,,,,,,,,

        Farrakhan’s Wild Water Claim: Careful, ‘The Enemy’ Is ‘Working Scientifically to Kill Off Black People’

        “…we shouldn’t trust the enemy (whitey) to feed us water, food when he’s killed us in the past.”

      • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 4:13 pm

        damn those low IQ GOP’rs

        (Bastard Nation) ‘I Should Sterilize You’ – Judge Orders Deadbeat Dad of 9 to Stop Reproducing
        Daily Mail ^ | 8 December 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

        • Corey Curtis, 44, owes about $90,000 in back child support and interest to the mothers of his children

      • bardolf2 December 10, 2012 / 8:00 pm

        neoconehead is forgetting those organic, don’t pollute your body, jog to work, near starvation diet to try and live forever, progressive professors with cushy jobs and high wages.

      • Amazona December 11, 2012 / 10:53 am

        dolf, I don’t think neo forgot your ” organic, don’t pollute your body, jog to work, near starvation diet to try and live forever, progressive professors with cushy jobs and high wages.”

        After all, he DID mention the “medium IQs”

        But thanks for focusing on that aspect of “progressive professors” who seem to find it so pweshuss to use silly names like “neoconehead”.

  7. bardolf2 December 10, 2012 / 8:03 pm

    Who knows what will happen to life expectancies between now and then. Maybe some of our younger readers will still be alive.- Spook

    That raises an interesting question. What is the age of a person who has read B4V recently? Maybe someone on here has exposed their great-great-great-great grandchildren to B4V!

    • neocon01 December 10, 2012 / 8:53 pm


      a slam at the elderly?

      how liberal of you

    • M. Noonan December 10, 2012 / 9:14 pm

      We keep the kids away because of the vulgar comments we get from liberals…

    • Jeremiah December 11, 2012 / 3:33 am

      My great-great-great-great grandaddy passed away in 201 A.D.

      • neocon01 December 11, 2012 / 10:32 am

        those organic, don’t pollute your body, jog to work, near starvation diet to try and live forever, progressive professors with cushy jobs and high wages

        one out of 10,000

    • Amazona December 11, 2012 / 11:02 am

      It is quite typical of two-faced Libs to accuse people of lack of tolerance while simultaneously spouting all sorts of bigotries, including ageism.

  8. 02casper December 11, 2012 / 7:46 pm

    Just a note. The “study” has been widely debunked and Yahoo News has pulled the story. It did make a great lesson though.

    • Amazona December 11, 2012 / 8:08 pm

      The “study” was instantaneously debunked merely due to its content.

      The “great lesson” is that the Left will stoop to anything, including a variety of lies and character assassination, to try to smear opposition. Not a new lesson, but a great one.

      Another was the confidence of the Left that its sheeple would swallow it and believe it.

      • 02casper December 11, 2012 / 8:14 pm

        “The “great lesson” is that the Left will stoop to anything, including a variety of lies and character assassination, to try to smear opposition. Not a new lesson, but a great one.”

        Except that we don’t know that it was done by someone on the left.

        “Another was the confidence of the Left that its sheeple would swallow it and believe it.”

        While there might have been a few people on the left that believed it, I haven’t seen it. There were at least a couple of diaries on the Daily Kos debunking it.

      • Amazona December 11, 2012 / 8:23 pm

        Yeah, because it would make so much sense for conservatives to invent a bogus study claiming conservatives are stupid.

        The only reason to come up with something like this would be to smear the Right, demean and dismiss conservatives, and it stuck around long enough to indicate that some either bought into it or knew it was lie but wanted it out there anyway.

        We will undoubtedly see it referenced in the future by mindless trolls trying to make a point.

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