Love Is In The Air

Ever since the election of Barack Obama in 2008, the world has become a much safer and peaceful place. The Arab Spring brought democracy to a region badly in need of Obama’s vision and greatness, and in 2009 when the students in Iran revolted against the Mullahs, Obama stood silent and indirectly supported the ruling regime in Iran, why? Well because, Obama knows everything, and that was the right thing to do to secure Iran’s respect in the future. Unfortunately a pretty student by the name of Neda was fatally shot in cold blood in the street, but what’s a few sacrifices, right? And today, Iran is as you expect with a great leader like Obama in charge – a country that respects us and is at peace with us:

Hundreds of thousands of people marched on Sunday in Tehran and other cities chanting “Death to America” as Iran marked the 34th anniversary of the Islamic revolution that ousted the U.S.-backed shah.

In addition to Iran, after deposing their leader and bringing about democracy, Libya welcomed us by assassinating our Ambassador along with three others. This must have come as a big surprise to Obama and his very capable SecState Hillary Clinton, because they were so confident that Libya was on the road to peace that they didn’t even fortify the Embassy and ignored cables from the Ambassador asking for protection. It was all a big surprise, but the regime has imprisoned a California film maker, so at least we have addressed the problem. I mean “what difference does it make”, right? Other countries that have embraced the forward thinking vision of Obama include Mali, Sudan, Yemen, and of course Egypt where it all began with Obama’s unifying speech in Cairo. Women everywhere must have been delighted to hear the leader of the free world extend an olive branch to those men who oppress, beat and stone them to death.

Domestically, after endearing the nation by telling conservatives that they would have to “ride in the back of the bus”, by telling the Hispanic caucus to “punish their enemies”, and by calling his grandmother a “typical white person”, Obama has proceeded to bring us all even more together by increasing poverty, expanding the food stamp rolls, and increasing taxes on everyone. And speaking of women, I am sure that all American women are ecstatic to know that their leader thinks so highly of them that he doesn’t want them over burdened with a pregnancy, including his daughters, so killing that fetus really is the only option even if it does make it outside the womb. After all, I can’t think of any other choice a woman could make, can you? Obama certainly has unified us all, hasn’t he? We are all in this decline together. Isn’t it great!

48 thoughts on “Love Is In The Air

  1. Cluster February 11, 2013 / 3:48 pm

    Sense of humor much James? It’s got to be really disappointing to be a liberal these days. To have so much control, yet have everything falling apart all around you. It’s kind of fun to watch from a conservative perspective though. Tomorrow – Obama is going to focus on jobs!!! Where have you heard that before?

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:09 pm

      Some 5 million independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney in 2012. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008, as Jack Wheeler points out. This means that 5.5 million Republican voters are not accounted for. Either they didn’t show up at the polls or their votes were not counted. Does anyone believe there was less enthusiasm by Republicans about this election than for the one in 2008?

      I could go on and on, but you get the point. In such a close election, these anomalies are unacceptable. In an election in which all the voter fraud appears to be perpetrated by one side, it could more than make the difference in the race. Worse yet, will an unscrupulous party that would resort to such crimes to win ever permit another free and fair election in the future – especially if the crimes are not exposed and punished severely?

      I believed going into the election that at least 5 percent of the Democratic vote would be fraudulent. That would mean Republicans would have to out-perform Democrats by 6 percent to win. I suspect now I was too conservative in my projections about the expected level of criminality perpetrated by Obama’s Democrats.

      Remember from where Obama arose. He was a community organizer and attorney for ACORN, which is nothing but an organized crime front with a focus on throwing elections.

      Do I think Obama won fair and square? No. I think he won only because of systematic fraud, corruption and abuse in the 2012 election.

      Very likely, it would not have even been a close election had Obama not made cheating – in every conceivable way – the central component of his campaign effort.

      Is there anything we can do about it now?

      Not likely.

      But if we want to ensure that America has free and fair elections in the future, we better get to work. America’s political system is becoming a thugocracy.

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:13 pm


      not only stupid but delusional……..

      “and on top of that, unemployment is slowly improving”.

      *******Over 8 Million Leave Labor Force under Obama**********

    • Cluster February 11, 2013 / 4:14 pm

      No question James, things are great. 8% unemployment, debt soon to reach $17 trillion ($9 trillion just 4 years ago), trillion dollar deficits, higher taxes for everyone, record number of people on food stamps, record number of people on disability, foreign policy is a mess, Americans are now targets of drones, cities across the country are filing for bankruptcy, and GDP growth is 2%.

      I don’t how things can get any better!

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:14 pm


      sad little man you are.

      like I said stupid AND delusional………ROTFLMAO!!

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:15 pm


      and NO budget foe FOUR YEARS….yeah happy days are here again thanks to bathouse barry and his merry men.

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:17 pm


      WND! the bastion of unbiased reporting and fact based research! off course!

      REFUTE IT…..Oh wait!!

    • Cluster February 11, 2013 / 4:25 pm

      ROTFLOL!!! I love your responses James.

      No it’s not

      Doesn’t matter

      Better than 0%

      What debate school did you go to?

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:28 pm

      “Have fun being the minority party for the next 11 years.

      WHO KNEW?
      and all along the donks have saying we were the party of old white men…

    • neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:56 pm

      A president must take care that his administration does everything it can do. On Sept. 11, 2012, as Americans were under attack in Benghazi, Libya, President Obama failed in his basic responsibility as president and commander in chief. In a crisis, the president went AWOL.

      And we learned one other thing: Messrs. Panetta and Dempsey both knew on the night of the assault that it was a terrorist attack. This didn’t prevent President Obama, Secretary Clinton and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice from peddling a false version of events in the days and even weeks that followed, as the administration called the incident spontaneous, said there was no evidence of a coordinated terrorist attack and blamed the violence on an anti-Muslim video.

      Read more:
      Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

  2. neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:40 pm

    another stellar job by bathouse barry……..

    China now #1 in trade

  3. neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 4:51 pm


    But then, I don’t think like a liberal Democrat so maybe there’s a reasonable explanation for such counterintuitiveness.

    Note that the president is advancing the same tired, worn out ideas for spending; teachers, road building, and green energy boondoggles. It would be one thing if he called for spending on a gigantic block party, or a series of gladitorial contests in major cities. At least we’d get spectacle with our debt.

    He is going to get up before Congress, before the American people, and say with a straight face he wants to bring down the deficit while proposing new spending that will add to it.

    We are living in a nightmare world with no chance of waking up.

    Read more:
    Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

  4. neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 5:23 pm

    mmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm mmmmmmm

  5. neocon01 February 11, 2013 / 5:30 pm


    • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 11:40 am

      Bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha……..

      PAPER: African-Americans concerned about Obama focus on illegals…

      DE LISH!!!!


      • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 11:45 am

        Bwaaaaa ha ha ha
        dejavu all over again….

        Residents Furious After NYC Raises Taxes On Sandy-Ravaged Homes…

        hey donks……… is that hopey and changy, thingy workin out fer ya?//

      • Amazona February 12, 2013 / 12:52 pm

        I wonder how many will connect this with who they elected.

      • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 2:01 pm

        Bush’s fault dontcha know….

      • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 2:06 pm

        OPM aint it grand?

        Fraud and abuse grow after subsidized telephone program expands (Obama phones)

        The Washington Times ^ | Feb 5, 2013 | By Luke Rosiak –

        Fraud and abuse grow after subsidized telephone program expands A federal program subsidizing phones for the poor increased from 6.8 million to 18 million recipients from 2008 — the year it was expanded to include cell phones — to May 2012

      • neocon01 February 13, 2013 / 9:09 am

        “When asked by a reporter whether the gunman is actually Dorner, Smith answered, “Until we get this guy in custody — until in hand cuffs and in jail —****** we’re not going to know for sure.”********

        UPDATE VI:
        The cabin is now on fire
        and CNN is reporting
        that a SWAT team is using a heavy vehicle to breach the building.

        Hmmmmm sounds familiar………tanks?, APC’s?, helicopters?, loud music blaring? fire?

        wow bathouse barry not to be out done by the KKKlintoons eh?

        sure glad they WEREN’T SURE, if they were – it could have been much worse.

  6. bardolf2 February 11, 2013 / 6:09 pm

    “We see news agencies reporting that tens of thousands of protesters are marching down the streets today, instead of hundreds of thousands that used to do participate before,” he said. “Of course the Iranian regime will never allow a pro-American protest. But Iranians do not hate Americans and are not enemies of the United States.” – same article Cluster linked to.

    Cluster, did you read the entire article and decide to take only the part that matched your preconceived notions or fail to read the article in its entirety?

    Believe it or not, most Iranians just want to buy stuff at the supermarket/mall/auto dealer just like most Americans. The birth rate has plummeted after the war with Iraq finished and they are trapped with the theological equivalent of Demoncrats running the country. Think of those chanting “death to America” as bused in Union types, people getting a few coins from a corrupt bureaucracy but not the majority at all. In fact the youth of the country hates the leadership.

    As for the general ‘safe and peaceful world’ I would like to know your metric. One of my metrics for a peaceful United States would be the murder rate. In 2011, the U.S. murder rate was 4.8 per 100,000, the lowest since 1963, when the rate was slightly lower at 4.6 per 100,000. (Breitbart). Another possible metric, US casualties in wars. US military casualties in Iraq/Afghanistan 2008 total 469 vs. 2012 total 311 by the year 2015 that number will be less than the number of murders per year in Phoenix AZ. Of course if the War on Drugs is stopped the murder rate in AZ might fall precipitously as well.

    • Cluster February 11, 2013 / 6:47 pm


      This article is a tongue in cheek article. But as with all humor, there is an element of truth to it and the fact is, Obama has not lived up to one thing that he campaigned on, from debt, to deficit, to the economy, to unifying this country, to having the rest of the world love us on the heels of Bush’s “cowboy” policies. Yet liberals continue to deny those realities and some refer to “metrics”.

      • bardolf2 February 11, 2013 / 7:29 pm

        ” …so killing that fetus really is the only option even if it does make it outside the womb” Cluster’s definition of a tongue in cheek article.

        40 million Americans murdered in the womb.

        Perhaps the title was the ‘humorous’ part?

      • Cluster February 11, 2013 / 9:04 pm

        Rather than speaking of the favorable attitudes the younger Iranians have towards us, how about if we discuss the HUGE opportunity Obama missed in 2009. That was the point I was trying to make. I wasn’t implying that Iranians on the whole chant in the streets. Even a few words of encouragement from Obama back in 2009 could have gone a long way.

      • Cluster February 11, 2013 / 9:06 pm

        And stool, I do hope you get the “outside the womb” reference.

    • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 7:23 pm

      dolf, we have no problem believing that “…most Iranians just want to buy stuff at the supermarket/mall/auto dealer just like most Americans…” We have talked about this at length over the years. I myself have praised Powell for his statement during the Bush years that we would support the Iranian people in an uprising against their oppressive regime. We have talked about the failure of the Obama administration to support the people of Iran. Nothing you are saying is new.

      I don’t understand your complaint that Cluster only read enough to support “preconceived notions”—-he, too, through the quote, noted the fading support for the regime by the rank and file Iranians.

      Cluster quoted “But Iranians do not hate Americans and are not enemies of the United States.” You, seem to claim he cherrypicked the article to support “preconceived notions” and then argue with him by saying ” In fact the youth of the country hates the leadership. ”

      I know you are oppositional by nature, eager to quibble with anything said here by any of the regulars, but gee, dolf, you might find a better way to do it than by agreeing with what one of them says. That’s just weird.

      Too weird, also, to pick the murder rate in Phoenix as an example, when the murder rate in some US cities is already higher than that of the war dead in Afghanistan.

      “Of course if the War on Drugs is stopped the murder rate in AZ might fall precipitously as well.”

      It might. And it might not. And the death rate might remain much the same but due to overdoses and other drug-related deaths instead of murders, at least for a while till the novelty of legally available drugs wears off. And stopping the illegal entry of drug dealers into Arizona might cut the murder rate even more than anything else.

      • bardolf2 February 11, 2013 / 7:55 pm


        I don’t think that Cluster quoted the part showing the fading support of the Iranian government. I put quotes around the statements of an Iranian from the original linked article which may have been hard to follow.

        Whenever I see people complaining about a particular state of the world, I ask them to tell me what kind of data is needed to convince them that the world isn’t going to end in an apocalypse tomorrow. The US is safe. NOT because of Obama but because people by and large know how to live and let live better than ever.

        I picked Phoenix because that is where Cluster lives. If the number of US casualties is lower than the number of murders in his home town that is a sign of relative safety in the world for US soldiers.

        You switched out a conservative concern for a liberal concern. It’s not a conservatives concern to worry if people eat too much pizza or drink too much beer or have too large of a diet soda. It is a conservative concern to decrease the crime rate, the money wasted on prisons, … all of which would occur if the war on drugs ceased.

        Anyway, since I highly value your opinion on matters of agriculture (GMB can chime in too!) I was wondering if you knew/had an opinion on open source ecology?

        It seems a little hippie feel good to me, but at the same time has a streak of individualism I associate with the farm kids I went to university with.

      • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 8:36 pm

        dolf, I don’t see the Open Source Ecology thing as agricultural as much as engineering, some of which can be applied to ag uses.

        I am fully committed to the modular concept of building pretty much anything, and to multi-use regarding pretty much anything. It all comes down to efficiency and the best use of time, materials and energy. I, for example, have a pull-behind hay mower, not seeing the advantage of buying an additional engine and transmission when I already have a perfectly good tractor to pull a mower.

        I didn’t spend a lot of time studying the Power Block but it seems like a great idea and the open source concept is great.

        As for Compressed Earth Blocks, hooray. I’ve also been a fan of mass-produced adobe, as much as it can easily be done in large quantities. I have two friends who have built compressed-straw-bale houses, and just finished a meeting with my electrician, studying the feasibility of using solar power for my new project. I’m very very big on passive solar, including water heating and my favorite, the trombe wall concept.

      • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 8:47 pm

        BTW, as I have said before, I am also in favor of decriminalizing drugs. I find the idea that “just because the War on Drugs has been a failure doesn’t mean it won’t work, kind of, some day, maybe” to be a version of the Leftist Magical Thinking that leads Libs to believe that just because Leftist policies have never succeeded in the past is no reason to think they won’t succeed, kind of, some day, maybe. As much as I hate drug use, as much misery and damage I have seen as the result of drug use, outlawing drugs simply has not worked.

        And as the daughter of a woman who drank herself to death, who is aware of the death toll of alcohol both regarding the user and various victims of things like drunk driving and alcoholic rage driven violence, who has seen families destroyed by alcohol use, I don’t find drugs to be that much worse. Right now drug use is glamorized and it is also titillating, the appeal of the forbidden, the thrill of getting away with something. Make it mundane and boring and point out that it is really really stupid, and that might have more impact that whatever we are trying now.

        Not to mention cutting gangs off at the knees.

        I would legalize pretty much everything, let the chips fall where they may, tax the daylights out of legalized drugs to pay for rehab and education, drag stoners into schools to show kids what they will look like if they follow the same path and not worry about hurting said stoner’s feelings or damaging his self esteem, make it illegal to glamorize drug use in any way, have a few big rules and impose them ruthlessly, and let it sort itself out.

        (Rules: Reselling legally bought drugs—10 years in prison, no negotiation. You want to get high, you go buy your own. Selling or providing to minors—life sentence, no parole, no discussion. Cooking or selling meth—death penalty, fast. That’s pretty much it.)

      • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 8:49 pm

        And people who screw up because of drugs would be sent to serious rehab, boot camp style rehab. If you can’t figure out how to function in society you get taken out of society till you can.

    • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 11:05 am


      course if the War on Drugs is stopped the murder rate in AZ might fall precipitously as well.

      ONLY if you deport @ 30% of the population as well

      • bardolf2 February 12, 2013 / 3:16 pm

        (number of murders by illegal roofers, dishwashers …)/ (number of murders by illegal drug runners) = epsilon

  7. tiredoflibbs February 11, 2013 / 8:07 pm

    James (aka tommy boy) I see you have been sucking down the obAMATEUR kool-aid again.

    The “Fiscal Cliff” deal raised taxes on almost everyone. So, your dumbed down talking points you just regurgitated are all lies.

    “deficits don’t matter”

    Of course they don’t WHEN YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS IN POWER!!! obAMATEUR described Bush’s deficits (less than half of obAMATEUR’s deficits) as being UNPATRIOTIC and IRRESPONSIBLE.

    …. and like a good little drone you regurgitate more dumbed down talking points.

    Tommy-boy, you are a tool nothing more.

    • neocon01 February 12, 2013 / 11:48 am

      “deficits don’t matter”

      not to the 47% of takers and looters who pay NO taxes they dont.

  8. dbschmidt February 11, 2013 / 8:29 pm

    Well, not one to post full articles but this is a direct response towards the Democratic “teachers, and more” meme–one needs to watch Stossel (Libertarian like me) on FBN (Fox Business News) to gain a rounded perspective on the cost and results of federally mandated education indoctrination.

    This week, Stossel’s Fox News special ‘Stupid In America’ airs on FBN.

    Exciting things are happening in education suddenly. In some places, charter schools bucked the unions, and got results. Inner-city kids do well on benchmark tests. They are excited to learn! When Stossel tells fourth graders that school is boring, they yell at him, “No, it’s not!” Says one boy: “Reading is rockin’ awesome!”

    Stossel reports on the innovations at the Success Charter Network and Harlem Village Academy in New York, and at the American Indian Public Charter School in Oakland, California. “Let’s destroy the system… create a system that serves kids,” says charter school director Deborah Kenny. Hurricane Katrina made that experiment possible by destroying much of New Orleans. Now most of New Orleans students attend charters, and they’re learning more.

    Aside from such bright spots, most of education in America is still a mess. The cost has skyrocketed, but performance is flat.

    Why? One big reason is that the government monopoly-Stossel calls it the “BLOB”- makes it nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher. Former Washington DC school chancellor Michelle Rhee talks about her attempt to change that, including firing her own daughters’ principal, and the backlash that led to her losing her job.

    Stossel confronts union leaders, like DC union boss Nathan Saunders, who opposes judging teachers by student test results. “I know my kids are learning when I look in their eyes,” says Saunders. New Jersey union leader Joseph Del Grosso opposes charter schools: “Over my dead body, they’re gonna come here.”

    When Saunders and Del Grosso were kids, they attended private schools, but now they oppose vouchers. This is a common phenomenon amongst members of the BLOB: choice for ME, but not for THEE.

    Virtual education innovator Sal Khan, founder of the Khan Academy, is on the right track. He’s a great teacher who now reaches millions of kids via the internet. Some fifth graders who watch his videos do high school level math. Before radio and TV, every big town had a best teacher and a best singer. Mass media changed that, so now Lady Gaga sings to the whole world. But education has stayed local and stagnant– until now, when the web allows the world’s best teachers to reach into every classroom.

    Why don’t we have more innovation? Why don’t we have a vibrant market in education? Stossel has reported on this for a decade, and in his first education special for Fox New he asks the question: Are we still Stupid in America?

    Why don’t some of our more “liberal” posters actually watch the episode claiming it wasted an hour of your time and come back with a reasonable response to the waste of government once more–if you can find one.

    • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 9:02 pm

      My cousin’s son is working for me, and over lunch today we had a long talk about this very thing. His parents had him and his brother reading by the time they were three, and in first grade they were reading Louis L’Amour books about the West. Their mom taught them math before they went to kindergarten, with a poker deck. They were having fun playing cards, not even realizing they were learning to count, and she would throw in addition and subtraction as they went. (Today she would be prosecuted for child abuse, teaching her kids how to gamble.)

      My mom taught me to read when I was three or four, and in kindergarten I would go off and read a book while the teacher was explaining the alphabet to the other kids.

      And we used flash cards, all the time—-in school, at home—for math and spelling and phonics.

  9. ricorun February 11, 2013 / 8:37 pm

    Totally off-topic, but have you guys been keeping up with the breathtaking advances in 3-D printing technology? It’s not just about printing chocolate heads, cheap toys and crappy guns anymore (that stuff is soooo 2010). Now they’re working on printing stem cell matrices to grow custom-made organs, and robotic prostheses. 3-D printing has gone from kinda interesting to freakin’ amazing in less than a decade! And it’s getting ever more amazing literally day by day. Very exciting stuff.

    • Amazona February 11, 2013 / 8:52 pm

      I was happy with chocolate heads.

      • ricorun February 12, 2013 / 12:44 am

        I’m sure you are. Then again, you’re happy with 18th Century philosophical and political constructs, too.

      • Amazona February 12, 2013 / 9:56 am


        Sorry—-I forgot you need a little smiley face as a guidepost to let you know someone is making a joke.

      • Amazona February 12, 2013 / 10:02 am

        rico—once you have finished your saucer of milk, why don’t you tell us what you find wrong or offensive or whatever about the “18th Century political construct” I find so impressive? You know, the one that got your back up and your claws out……..

        Perhaps you can then explain to us why it is inferior to your floppy sloppy whatever-appeals-at-the-moment infinitely flexible committed-to-nothing “pragmatism” you preen over.

      • ricorun February 12, 2013 / 11:00 pm

        Amazona: rico—once you have finished your saucer of milk…

        Who’s meowing?

        …why don’t you tell us what you find wrong or offensive or whatever about the “18th Century political construct” I find so impressive?

        What I find so offensive, and so wrong, is that you interpret those constructs (namely, the Constitution in particular, but also Adam Smith’s treatise on free market economy) so literally. In fact, so literally that you seem to reject any interpretation by the Supreme Court if it differs from your own.

        Perhaps you can then explain to us why it is inferior to your floppy sloppy whatever-appeals-at-the-moment infinitely flexible committed-to-nothing “pragmatism” you preen over.

        I’d be happy to: your interpretation relies on ideology first and foremost — perhaps even exclusively — while my interpretation relies on what works within the framework based upon the available data and logic.

      • Amazona February 13, 2013 / 11:37 am

        rico, don’t double down on your cattiness by now being coy.

        “What I find so offensive, and so wrong, is that you interpret those constructs (namely, the Constitution in particular, but also Adam Smith’s treatise on free market economy) so literally. In fact, so literally that you seem to reject any interpretation by the Supreme Court if it differs from your own. ”

        Well, I don’t quote Adam Smith so we can take that little claim off the table.

        Do I take the Constitution literally? Yes.

        Why? BECAUSE IT IS THE LAW. Because a framework has to be solid and inflexible and the same from one day to the next, and the Constitution is the framework for the nation.

        You never answered any of Spook’s questions to you over the years about how willing you would be to enter into any contract of any type if the other person had the ability to modify its terms at will. But this is what you and other squishies want—–a vague, amorphous, suggestion of how the nation should be governed, where the rules can change according to the circumstances. Or, to be more accurate, according to what benefits those in charge at the time.

        You might play poker with me if the rules are clear, but not if you know that I can decide on the fly that “what works best” at the time is that my straight beats your four of a kind. You might sell me your house with a firm contract that sets out, without ambiguity, the price and the terms, but probably not if you know that at any time I can decided “what works best” and skip every other payment, or cut the price in half.

        You resist the most obvious fact pointed out to you, which is that we can either run the nation according to its law, or we can run it in another way. For some reason you fight this conclusion. I say that we can choose between the small-government model of the Constitution or a model that is not the Constitution and you holler that I am oversimplifying. In fact, you just want to hedge your bets. You want it both ways. You want to pay lip service to the Constitution while saying out the other side of your mouth that you want the ability to ignore it if you decide that the other way is “what works best”.

        As for you claim that I “REJECT” any interpretation by the Supreme Court if it differs from my own, you damned right I do. So?

        For someone who fights so frantically against the restraints of a firm and clearly constructed Constitution, you suddenly lurch into a belief that the opinion of five unelected, too-often politically motivated, people should be absolutely binding on my opinion and belief. On the law, perhaps. On my opinion and belief? Hardly. Do you agree with every Supreme Court ruling? Really? Dred Scott? Kelo? Citizens United?

      • Amazona February 13, 2013 / 11:53 am

        “I’d be happy to: your interpretation relies on ideology first and foremost — perhaps even exclusively — while my interpretation relies on what works within the framework based upon the available data and logic.”

        Well, this is a dodge.

        I, too, rely “…on what works within the framework based upon the available data and logic.” What is a “framework” EXCEPT ideology?

        It’s just that I HAVE a “framework” and a belief that whatever is done must be done within that framework. I also understand that “data” change from one day to the next, depending on who is compiling the data, the competence of the data compiler, who is editing the data and for what purpose, etc. and I understand that “logic” is too often a highly subjective definition for what is obvious to others as highly illogical. You are an excellent example of the latter.

        The response to “data” is too often based on emotion, agenda, or ignorance, even when the data are complete and accurate, and the determination of “logic” is too often determined by ego-based self-perception. Neither of which, much less both, can provide much in the way of stable governance.

        My “framework” is the Constitution, exactly as it is written. My “data” are the empirical facts that when this nation was governed as closely as possible to that Constitution it leapfrogged over every civilization and government in the world to establish new benchmarks of economic prosperity and personal liberty. My “data” include the fact that when we started to erode the letter of the law as laid out in the Constitution, we started to decline in strength, prosperity and freedom. And my “logic” leads me to the conclusion that the Constitutional model is far superior to anything that superseded it, subverted it, or in any way operated outside it.

        Prove me wrong.

  10. dbschmidt February 11, 2013 / 9:01 pm

    In 2010;

    — More than 43% of all Food Stamps are awarded to illegals
    — 95% of warrents for murder in LA are for illegals
    — Less than 2% of illegals are picking crops but 41% are on welfare
    — More than 66% of all births in California are to illegals on Medi-Cal.
    — Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegals.
    — More than 39% of California students (1-12) are illegals.
    — 75% of LA’s most wanted are illegals.

    More current data is available; however, it looks worse for US taxpayers (2011);

    — Illegal immigration costs U.S. taxpayers about $113 billion a year at the federal, state and local level. The bulk of the costs — some $84 billion — are absorbed by state and local governments.

    — The annual outlay that illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers is an average amount per native-headed household of $1,117. The fiscal impact per household varies considerably because the greatest share of the burden falls on state and local taxpayers whose burden depends on the size of the illegal alien population in that locality

    — Education for the children of illegal aliens constitutes the single largest cost to taxpayers, at an annual price tag of nearly $52 billion. Nearly all of those costs are absorbed by state and local governments.

    — At the federal level, about one-third of outlays are matched by tax collections from illegal aliens. At the state and local level, an average of less than 5 percent of the public costs associated with illegal immigration is recouped through taxes collected from illegal aliens.

    — Most illegal aliens do not pay income taxes. Among those who do, much of the revenues collected are refunded to the illegal aliens when they file tax returns. Many are also claiming tax credits resulting in payments from the U.S. Treasury.

    But we need to find a path to citizenship for these folks immediately. To me it seems we have an entire group of folks who openly violate the laws of this country, enjoy the fruits while claiming that going to the “end of the line” that no longer exists for these folks is damn near torture.

    I jump the fence to Disneyland and refuse to leave until I am given a park pass. I do not have to go back to my hometown and await my turn in line–I will just wait here until I am granted.

    • 02casper February 12, 2013 / 11:11 pm

      Just curious where you got your stats.

  11. Cluster February 12, 2013 / 8:38 am

    Calling all plumbers!

    Also, pharmacists and optometrists could become primary care providers and be allowed to treat some chronic illnesses…………….“We don’t have enough providers,” said Beth Haney, president of the California Association for Nurse Practitioners, “… so we should increase access to the ones that we have.”

    Just another great aspect of the new liberal paradise we all live in. We have turned a once noble and lucrative profession into a minimum wage job. But the good news is – we all have insurance. Well, kind of. Most of us do, sort of.

    Read more:

Comments are closed.