Ideology Open Thread

It’s been a while since we’ve had a purely ideological debate. Just for the sake of discussion, and in light of the new welcoming of progressive views here at B4V, let’s say that Conservatism as a political movement just folds up and gives Progressives free rein to do whatever they want. In one generation will America be more free or less free? Will America be more prosperous or less prosperous? Will American students graduating from high school and college be more educated or less educated? Will our air and water be cleaner or dirtier?  Will we make a seamless transition to alternate/renewable energy?  If so, will that mean abundant and economical energy or undependable and expensive energy?

I’m not looking so much for opinions on these dynamics as I am on evidence, either anecdotal or historical as well as new ideas, or, at least new approaches to old ideas that have never worked before, to support how a totally Progressive society might evolve over a generation. So have at it.  Liberals, here’s your chance to strut your stuff.  The only comments that will be deleted are those that resort to vulgar language and name calling.

R.I.P. Maggie Thatcher & Annette Funicello

Two iconic ladies have passed away on us today. As for Thatcher, to this day she was the best PM in Britain since Churchill, and is famous for the line “the problem with socialism is that eventually you’ll run out of other peoples money”. She championed free markets, stood strong against aggressors, had a lovely demeanor and disarming wit, and was a steadfast and reliable ally to the US. She will be missed.

As for Annette, she certainly represents a time passed and an innocence lost. There is a complete 180 on how women in Annette’s time presented themselves vs how they do today. Lady Gaga anyone? I am not saying that it’s entirely a bad thing, but I wish we as a society would conduct our public personas with a little more class.

UPDATE, by Mark Noonan:  the left, of course, is the left…and so when Obama’s White House issued a statement lauding Thatcher (and, of course, claiming absurdly that Obama is carrying on Thatcher’s work), the left got quite vile about it…mad as all get out that Obama had even a single kind word to say about Thatcher.  Twitchy has the round up of reactions (warning, extreme language!).  And they say we’re the haters…

Sunday Open Thread

Sunday is just a good day for an open thread, so let us know what is on your mind. In this new day of welcoming more liberal opinion on B4V, I particularly encourage the liberals to chime in and let us know what you think of the current state of affairs. I will tell you what’s on my mind as I sit hear and listen to the brain damage emanating from the Melissa Harris Perry show on MSNBC – 1. The liberals on the show are pining for “common sense” gun control legislation, somehow oblivious to the plethora of laws already on the books. Instead of the “smart” people on the panel analyzing the laws currently in place, and questioning why that legislation might be ineffective, they continue to blame the republicans for blocking more legislation, proving once again that liberals have never met a bigger government they didn’t like. 2. On the heels of a miserable jobs report, anemic 4th quarter GDP growth, and the possibility that Obama will once again call for more tax hikes, the “smart” liberals are saying that it is just a temporary economic pause, and that those reports don’t really reflect the growing consumer confidence and an economy that is in fact turning around. It has to be difficult to be a liberal these days having to deny reality and continue to distort and spin the news in a desperate attempt to convince people that they are not completely insane. Many of us know better.

Recovery? Yeah, Whatever…

From Mish’s Global Economic Trend Analysis:

The surge in employment fueled by part-time jobs and the Obamacare effect may finally be over. Although the establishment survey showed a gain of 88,000 jobs, the household survey, off which the unemployment rate is based, showed a loss of 206,000 jobs.

The unemployment rate edged lower by .1% because a whopping 496,000 people dropped out of the labor force.

Last month, voluntary part-time employment rose by a reported 446,000. It’s plain to see that last month’s numbers were a statistical aberration. This was a miserable jobs report from every angle….

Keep that clearly in mind – the unemployment rate dropped to 7.6% in a month when the source for the 7.6% figure showed a loss of 206,000 jobs.  The only reason it dropped – rather than shooting up – is because nearly half a million people dropped out of the labor force.  The labor force participation rate is now back to 1970’s levels.

This, my friends, is a dying economy.  Dying more slowly here than in Europe because parts of the country are still rationally governed (places like Texas and Florida, for instance), but still dying because of a sea of debt and fake money.Europe, too, was kept afloat for a while by France and Germany…how long can Texas and Florida make up for California and New York?

UPDATE:  Given that two more Democrat Senators have “evolved” (between November and April, astoundingly!) on gay marriage, Kruiser is dead on:

Gay marry the jobs report, that’s Plan B today.

So What Have You Missed?

If you’re the typical liberal, you’ve missed a lot. While everyone has been busy hyperventilating over gay marriage and restricting gun rights, a lot has gone on under the radar. First on the radar screen would be the President’s call to relax lending standards again, as Bill Clinton did back in the 1990’s, which led to the ultimate crash in 2007. Liberals like to refer to this as “predatory lending” because obviously it was all the fault of greedy banks who insisted on giving mortgages to people who couldn’t afford to pay them back. So off we go to another housing bubble, how exciting.

Next up, poverty, which is reported now to be at levels not seen since the 1960’s which as most of us remember was the impetus for the Great Society and the “war on poverty”. Now you would think that after the “summer of recovery” in 2010, the 2009 stimulus, Obama’s promise of a new “green” economy in need of well paid, skilled workers, and the Keynesian economic dream model he has been chasing, that Americans would be on easy street right now, right? Well you would be wrong. The latest jobs report is well below expectations and inventories are falling, which doesn’t bode well for future employment. On a positive note, Justin Timberlake is scheduled to perform at the White House soon, so it’s good to know that the Obama’s are not suffering from the sluggish economy.

Next up, Obamacare. It was announced this week that the administration will have to delay the implementation of SHOP, a key small business provision, that was instrumental in securing some needed votes for passage. The provision was scheduled to begin in January 2014, and was to allow choices of coverage for small business at affordable rates. Now the program has been pushed back a year, to January 2015, and will only allow for one single choice for those small business’s despite nearly 4 years to put the program in place. However, anyone who believed that we could reduce health care costs by adding more layers of bureaucracy and more free riders to the system, deserve what they get.

Finally, illegitimacy, which in my opinion, is the root of our societal ills. A recent report shows that now more than half of all births to all women under 30, occur outside of marriage. 73% of all black children are born outside of marriage, while that number is 53% for Latinos and 29% for whites. These numbers are alarming. Studies show that children raised in single-family households are more prone to drop out of school, use drugs, commit crimes, and wind up in prison and/or poverty.  And personally, I BLAME MEN!! Men need to man up, so to speak and take care of their responsibilities and their children. There is zero excuse for any man to abandon their child, and as a society, we should not condone that one bit. There are plenty of choices to be made to avoid pregnancy before the act of sex, which makes abortion not an option, and again, as a society we should expect better from everyone. How can we “progress” as a society if we continue to lower the bar? Progress should mean improvement, and from the current condition of our society, I am not seeing much improvement.

Liberal Fascist Perfection: Insurance Mandate for Gun Owners

From Fox News:

A New York Democratic lawmaker is behind a national push that would force gun owners to buy liability insurance or face a $10,000 fine.

The Firearm Risk Protection Act, pushed by Rep. Carolyn Maloney and seven co-sponsors, follows efforts at the state level to create the controversial new kind of insurance for gun owners.

“For too long, gun victims and society at large have borne the brunt of the costs of gun violence,” Maloney said in a written statement. “My bill would change that by shifting some of that cost back onto those who own the weapons.” …

For a liberal Democrat, this is just the best thing ever:

1.  It punishes the law abiding.

2.  It restricts gun ownership to those wealthy enough to afford insurance (so that Hollywood stars can still have them!  Cool, huh?).

3.  It opens up massive opportunities for Democrat-supporting trial lawyers to rake it in using lawsuits against gun owner insurance policies.

4.  If you have to have insurance then the government needs to be sure you’ve got it – so, licensing of guns.  And, hey, we gotta make sure that insurance policy is in force – so we need to renew your gun license each year!

5.  It provides additional revenue streams for Big Government.

6.  Once everyone is licensed, registered and insured any DA or US attorney out there looking to boost his conviction rate can troll trough the registration records to see if anyone is in violation of some obscure provision of a local, State or federal gun law or regulation.  You didn’t know you were in violation because you stored your gun in the closet instead of in a federally certified gun case?  That’s your problem!  Pony up a guilty plea, surrender your guns (forever) and pay a $10,000 fine or go to jail for 5 years!

I could go on – and if such a provision ever becomes law, then federal and State law enforcement agencies will go on and on and on.  Make absolutely no mistake about it – gun confiscation is the Democrat aim and they will keep at it and at it and at it…hoping that if they throw 100 laws and regulations against the wall that one or two of them will stick.  And then they’ll throw another 100.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

We must stand absolutely firm against all Democrat gun efforts because all of them have the same gun confiscation aim.  Do keep in mind that in theory I am in favor of gun licensing and registration (I’m also in favor of abolishing the National Guard and re-instituting the State Militia…because that what guns are really for:  to arm our militia against all enemies, foreign and domestic), but as long as these liberals are involved, I won’t go an inch down that road…because they are not honest; they don’t want reasonable regulation of guns but an end to an armed citizenry.