Richard Klein says it all…..
On September 9, 2009, Joe Wilson, Congressman from South Carolina, shouted “You lie!” when President Obama was touting the benefits of his Affordable Care Act, now dubbed “Obamacare.” Many in America were shocked that anyone would call the President of the United States a liar in such a forum as a presidential address to a joint session of Congress.
But, now, as we look back on 5 years of Barack Obama, we see that Obama and his Administration do lie. And they lie a lot:
- Both Eric Holder and Barack Obama stated that “Fast and Furious was a program begun in the Bush Administration”. That was a lie. The Bush Administration had, in fact, shut down any efforts to track illegal shipments of guns to Mexico because it was a dangerous and untenable undertaking.
- Hillary Clinton, Susan Wright and Barack Obama all stated that the attack in Benghazi was caused by Islamist spontaneous reaction to an anti-Islamist video produced in the United States. We know now – and they knew then – that the attack in Benghazi was a well planned effort by well armed Islamic extremists with connections to Al Qaeda.
- The President assured us that “….. the IRS targeting of conservative groups like the Tea Party…” was an isolated instance of rogue IRS employees in the Cincinnati office. We now know that the senior levels of the Administration (e.g., the Treasury Department General Counsel, the Deputy Secretary of the Department of the Treasury, and the Office of the White House Counsel) were acutely aware of these plans to target these conservative groups and were worried about these
- The President and the National Director of Intelligence reassured the American people time and time again that the phone calls and emails of Americans were not being monitored and recorded as part of our intelligence programs. We know that to be false and, further, we now know that our electronic spying is international in scope and technologically sophisticated.
These are but a few of the lies that Barack Obama and his “partners in deception” have pushed upon the American people. Presidents and Administrations have historically concealed intelligence operations and national security concerns from the American public. But Barack Obama knows no limits to the lying that he and his Administration concoct to deceive and misdirect Americas.
Recently, the disastrous rollout of Obamacare has provided fertile fields for more lying.
- “If you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it. Period.”
- “If you like your current doctor, you can keep that doctor.”
- “Your premiums will go down an average of $2500 per year.”
- “The cost of this national healthcare program will be less than $1 trillion.”
- “Obamacare would not cover illegal aliens.”
- “Obamacare would not cover abortions.”
These are not just lies. These are damn lies that the Administration knew would be such, but still foisted them on the American public to divert attention away from the truth about Obamacare and the impact it would have upon us all.
Joe Wilson was right when he said “You lie.”
To my knowledge, the only truth that Obama has ever uttered is that “He would fundamentally change America.”
And he is doing just that with lies and deceit.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/10/rep_joe_wilson_vindicated.html
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On other blogs, the drones are part of the “Cult of Personality”. No matter what obAMATEUR (from now on will be called pResident obeyme) says or does, these drones will blindly follow him (lemmings at their best or worst). Here are some examples from a former leftist blogger who posted on this blog regularly:
“I don’t know if the President lied (re. ACA) and I don’t care.”
“I don’t care if the President read the ACA or not.”
(there are many others but I don’t have the time or space to put them all)
Unbelievable! These people redefine “the low information voter”. And people wonder why the country is in the poor state that it is in.
Update: It seems I got the lefties panties in a bunch. They are now making shit up about this post making claims I never made and ASSuming that I am in the Tea Party for daring to show the lies coming from pResident obame (obey me). The excuses coming from these LIVs is astounding.
Lies 1, 2, and 3 are reinforced with facts and slams the lefts repeated talking points to the contrary for California’s Middle Class. Some will lose their coverage altogether.
I am sure this is nothing but a coincidence, nothing to see here.
Despite the facts to the contrary with more and more coming out each day, the drones are defending pResident obame (obey-me) or they don’t care if he lies or not, nor if what he says what is in ACA is accurate since he has not read it. If his aides are briefing him on what is in obamacare then he is intentionally sticking to the campaign mode sound bites for it. The people will not like the truth that is being revealed each day.
Update II: Well it is official, pResident obame lied…
Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance
Wow, from NBC news no less……Once again proving the LIVs (plural for LIV – just like SUVs but the drones are desperate) have no clue. When the pResident says that “You can keep your insurance, period”, it does not mean some mandated minimum plan designed by some bureaucrat is a proper substitute. It means you can keep the plan you have with no alterations, substitutions or restrictions. Let’s see the spin these morons will try next.
As predicted the poor excuse-making continues. The LIVs, the Cult of Personality, have again made statements that obame did not lie. They say the fault lies with the insurance companies for changing their policies. As usual, they cherry-pick the facts and completely ignore that the ACA MANDATES these changes. Obame and the Democrats had full knowledge of these changes and still tout the lie “If you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it. Period.”
From the NBC article:
“Four sources deeply involved in the Affordable Care Act tell NBC NEWS that 50 to 75 percent of the 14 million consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a “cancellation” letter or the equivalent over the next year because their existing policies don’t meet the standards mandated by the new health care law.”
Once again proving that the drones are willfully ignorant (useful idiots) and are among the millions of LIVs that voted for the personality in the White House.
Update III: It is pure comedy to see the left, their fellow looters and the unthinking lemmings stumble all over themselves to cover and make excuses for pResident obame’s LIES on the ACA:
- “If you like your current insurance plan, you can keep it. Period.”
- “If you like your current doctor, you can keep that doctor.”
- “Your premiums will go down an average of $2500 per year.”
Even Stenny Hoyer freely admits that the pResident and his fellow dems knew that millions would lose their coverage when the government’s MANDATED health plans went into affect. The left is falling all over themselves to cover for the pResident, while deflecting and dodging every chance they get – forgetting what they said before and contradicting themselves in the process. What is the LIVs supposed to do, when all they do is repeat the party line with no thought or critical thinking.
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And the thing of it is, I don’t think they intended to lie – they really thought they could provide health care for all at lower cost than the private sector. I believe this because I’ve had serious discussions with liberals who believe that government run health care has lower overheads (ROFL!!!!) and given economies of scale, savings will be passed on to the consumer (as opposed to being passed on to the unionized government workers!!!). How any can think that a government bureaucracy will have lower overheads than a private company is beyond me – liberals believe it because they believe that once you take the profit motive out, overhead costs are reduced (they seem to work on the theory that government employees aren’t just as greedy, on average, as Wall Street Fat Cats…this, though, is part of the liberals failure to understand Original Sin).
Of course, once reality starts creeping in then we get the deliberate lies – such as “it was a video” (the original – sincere – lie in that sequence was the concept that Obama, because of his wonderful self, would get the Muslims to like us)…and not just deliberate lies, but stupid lies. Trouble is, a lot of people believe. Democrats are putting out the word that its GOP’s fault that the ObamaCare rollout was a flop…and some people are believing it. The better news, however, is that as the actual facts of it hit people in the pocket book, I think the advantage will swing to us (and, indeed, I think it already is swinging to us).
OT, but an article about Alan Greenspans new book, “The Map and the Territory” in our local Sunday paper today illustrates the primary problem with our ruling elite. In it Greenspan defends his time as Fed Chairman saying, “he would not change how he did things , despite making some mistakes.”
If the people at the top of the political and economic food chain never learn from their mistakes, then how can civilization ever advance?
Not at all, of course. But the fundamental problem for someone like Greenspan is that he doesn’t even know what happened. And I mean in totality. These people can’t learn from history because they know not the first thing of it – “history” began with them, and by his lights, Greenspan has just done what was required of him because he was told that in X circumstances you do Y thing.
For Greenspan, this means that the very worst thing that can happen is a financial crash – and that is to be avoided like the plague. Why? He can’t tell you. He doesn’t even know what a financial crash really is – always and everywhere the result of fraud. If you prevent it from happening, you have just rewarded dishonesty by bailing out the crooks. Honest banks which wisely manage money never have a financial problem – they survive the ups and downs of the economy because they wisely manage their money and thus are never over-exposed…crooked banks always have problems, because they are crooks. Greenspan doesn’t know this – he thinks that the crooks are not crooks but are rational bankers managing their firms like all bankers have ever done.
This administration is nothing but Chi-town politics which is all based on lies from the get-go. What worked in Chicago–they thought would translate onto the bigger stage (sounds a lot like ACA) without realizing that not everyone would be dazzled and except everything at face value.
Even though I do not have the time, nor energy, to respond fully (in particular to Liberals and/or Progressives)–I believe that as Cheney stated ‘Friends no longer trust us, Adversaries don’t fear us’ is a good summary. The workforce is at an all-time low. The gimmie-gimmie crowd is at an all-time high. We are screwed unless we start to right this country soon.
I am still hoping the ballot box may resolve this issue no matter how slowly but I am among the many that are ready otherwise. The LIV have caused a possible non-reversible tipping point where it will be answered when the middle class is pushed too hard and start refusing to play nice. It is similar to my “If you had one wish” theory that if I could wave a magic wand–I would have everyone in the US quit smoking at once and enjoy watching the US government collapse under the weight of losing a class of people that are taxed to death for a legal product–maybe we could through in alcohol to addicts as a kicker.
Obama isn’t I believe in miracles but rather I believe in Marxism.
02casper October 27, 2013 at 9:20 pm
Since you seem to want to debate the other website, I thought I would post kmgtwo’s response.
I will not put much effort into this response but let us take a look.
Argument: If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it. Period.”
Response: “For 85% of Americans, that is completely true.”
‘Period’ indicates 100% — not 85%, 55%, or anything less than complete compliance. Failed not only in the response but you need some remedial education if you plan on teaching math anytime soon. Do your students who get an 85% get a 100% score?
Argument: “If you like your current doctor, you can keep that doctor.”
Response: “This is just as true now as it was before the ACA. Insurance companies choose which doctors are in their networks, not the government.”
Another LIE but we will call it a deflection. Government is FORCE and decides what private companies can and cannot do through regulation. Companies have to adapt to new regulations and requirements in order to stay profitable. Just ask my doctor, whom I am hoping is going into a private concierge’s based service so I can keep her. Paying her cash will become illegal.
Argument: “Your premiums will go down an average of $2500 per year.”
Response: (in part) “…It may or may not turn out to be the case, as only time will tell, but the claim wasn’t just made up out of whole cloth…”
More BS that you know to be false. There is no free lunch and with the exception of a few (very few) the rates need to increase just to float this boat of lies. Nevertheless, I am “really glad” that as a man of 53—I will have maternity care among other necessities. On top of that my deductables and co-pays with double or triple but that is not a real “cost.”
Argument: “The cost of this national healthcare program will be less than $1 trillion.”
Response: “This was a true statement at the time it was made.”
Squeaked in at just under $1 T but have you ever seen a government program that has contained cost? Another bald-faced lie.
The final two on illegal aliens and abortions are fungible matters but you already know that. Spin it however you like but I am all for requiring anyone who believes and pushes this pile of crap down the road also have to sign up and live under it from the President on down including staff and family members. You should not have any objections to that, nor forgoing whatever insurance you have now to join the wonderful world of unicorns and rainbows in the ACA.
BTW, I am hoping you are smart enough (mental health care is included in the ACA) to realize that the ACA is only health insurance and not health care—still need to find a doctor that will accept it.
Moderator: I know–do not feed the trolls. Could not help myself. Sorry.
THAT’S OK, MY SON — WE UNDERSTAND THE ATTRACTION OF THE DARK SIDE//MODERATOR
his eligibility = A LIE
being a christian = A LIE
his marriage = A LIE
his being straight = A LIE
his non drug use = A LIE
him not being a communist = A LIE
him being an American = A LIE
him being black = A LIE
his name = A LIE
his university records = A LIE
his bar status = A LIE
hell even his previous zip code = A LIE
barry hussin’s whole life, existence, and everything about this evil little man is is a lie.
db, I understand. It is hard to ignore such blatantly ignorant commentary. I was particularly taken by the idiotic lie that Republicans want to “destroy the federal government” while those warm fuzzy Lefties only want to fix it. (Of course by “fix” they mean expand in size, scope and power, in direct contradiction to the restrictions imposed by the Constitution, and in so doing “fix” it by making it more powerful, more oppressive, and more tyrannical.)
There is something oddly and creepily fascinating about watching people insist that you pay attention to their stupidity, but this is casper’s history. He jumps up and down squealing “Look how dumb I am!!” every time he posts, yet every post of his reminds me of the old saying that every man loves the smell of his own farts. casper does love to stink up the place and then act quite proud of the mental gas he has produced.
Yet he serves a purpose, which is to continuously illustrate the fact that what he, and his kind, believe is political commentary and belief is really nothing more than sheer bigotry. They are for some reason drawn to an ugly and invented stereotype and then cling to it, regurgitate it, make important decisions based upon it, and in general substitute it for thought and reason. So, although conservatives insist that we want the nation governed according to the Constitution, which means that the federal government is limited in size, scope and power to the 17 enumerated duties assigned to it, he tries to prove how wrong this is by bleating about how we need to have the federal government involved in the space program (national defense) and an interstate highway program (national defense) thereby cementing the impression that he has absolutely no knowledge of the Constitution or those delegated duties. He might as well whimper that we are wrong in wanting to limit the size, scope and power of the federal government because after all we need a federal government for international diplomacy, or to regulate interstate commerce.
Actually, that’s kind of what he did.
You will note that he will never, ever, discuss his preferred form of government. He will pay lip service to the idea that elections are about government, but then he goes on to spout utter nonsense, not a syllable of which has anything at all to do with government and everything to do with blind, ignorant hate-based bigotry.
When he is man enough to come here and describe why he believes that an expansive federal government with no limits on its size, scope and power is the better way to govern this nation, and backs this up with examples of this kind of government succeeding when and where it has been tried, he might have a chance at erasing some of the perception of him a mindless tool drive by emotions he doesn’t even understand but which are clearly understood by those watching him as petty, nasty and spiteful.
Amazona,
I’ve explained my preferred form of government on several occasions…
No you haven’t. You have used this dodge before. You answers have always been vague and contradictive. Try again.//moderator
…and the Iranians are a year away from the bomb too! Some lies are really scary! Do the Donks think the ignition temperature of liberals is higher than that of conservatives? Sounds like Isreal will move soon and alone to save our collective butts. They are not fooled.
Rep. Joe Wilson Vindicated!
as is Joe Mc Carthy and Bobby Kennedy.
Is it me? It seems like it was more fun to rebuff liberal claims with W. at the wheel. It’s a shame Romney didn’t win at least for Obamacare. If it takes an Obama to pass this pig it will surley take a Mitt romney to get this pig off the ground! To bad for the Democrates that Obama won the election in 2012. Maybe, if Republicans can win in 2016 some of these folks will be able to buy insurance.