54 thoughts on “New Years Open Thread

  1. Amazona December 31, 2013 / 5:29 pm

    Funny line: Jonah (Goldberg) is fond of quoting the story of how when (Ed) Koch was asked to run again during his successor’s disastrous term in office, Koch replied, “No! The people threw me out, and now the people must be punished.”

    We can remember this when people want to impeach Obama: No! The people kept him in, and now the people must be punished.

  2. Amazona December 31, 2013 / 5:39 pm

    Having said that, I look forward to 2014. On a personal level, things are looking great. On a national level, no problems are being solved and things are looking crappy, but the balance to that is that it may help those who insisted on keeping this crappy president in office to start realizing the utter stupidity of their actions.

    A friend is looking for bumper stickers for us. He has seen several and we want some for our vehicles. They say DOESN’T THAT OBAMA BUMPER STICKER MAKE YOU FEEL STUPID ?

    • Retired Spook December 31, 2013 / 7:43 pm

      My favorite bumper sticker is still the giant picture of Obama on the tail gate of a large pick-up truck with the caption, “Does this ass make my truck look big?”

      This will be my first year not working (not for pay, anyway) since 1957, when I got my first part-time job at the age of 12, so I’m actually looking forward, on a personal level, to the coming year. I have to agree with Amazona, though, that on the national level things look pretty bleak. I’d love to be pleasantly surprised.


      • neocon01 January 1, 2014 / 1:44 pm

        Happy New Year everyone (mostly)

      • M. Noonan January 1, 2014 / 1:49 pm

        Oh, come on – Happy New Year to EVERYONE!!! Yes, even the pinko, commie trolls…

      • neocon01 January 1, 2014 / 1:51 pm


  3. GMB December 31, 2013 / 8:03 pm

    This is not the Russian Empire of 1917-23. We are not serfs used to being in thrall to the Tsar. We still have 238 years of Freedom behind us. You can only be cowed into submission if you allow yourself to be.

    The proggies will overstep because that is what they do. They can only keep themselves in power as long as they have wealth to confiscate from others. We have almost reached that point where there is nothing more to take.

    Our Country does have a future. It might go back To These United States instead of The United States but the future is still there.

    The proggies want us to loose heart and they want us to give up.

    Lets not give them that.

    A happy new year to everyone and drink a beer for me.


    • Retired Spook January 1, 2014 / 8:08 am

      The proggies want us to loose heart and they want us to give up.

      Lets not give them that.

      I agree, but I don’t agree that they’ve taken everything there is to take. Things will begin to get interesting when we reach a point where your every-day, Joe Six-Pack says, “no — enough!”, and we haven’t reached that point yet.

    • neocon01 January 1, 2014 / 1:56 pm

      A happy new year to everyone and drink a beer for me.

      I DID
      I WILL

  4. neocon01 January 1, 2014 / 1:55 pm

    Things will begin to get interesting when we reach a point where your every-day, Joe Six-Pack says, “no — enough!”, and we haven’t reached that point yet.

    real close though, the Duck Dynasty kerfuffle was an eye opener to the seething rage just below the surface of the silent MAJORITY, wait until the feral animals begin rampaging, looting, burning our citys AGAIN the blow back will be horrific.

    • GMB January 1, 2014 / 2:25 pm

      “blow back will be horrific.”

      I agree. The blow back from 40k new laws will be pretty bad too. Is this what the majority of people really want?

      You can either have freedom or security. I want freedom. I’ll handle my own damn security.

      Think happy thoughts.


  5. dbschmidt January 1, 2014 / 2:41 pm

    I just want to wish everyone a happy new year and that is mostly of our own making. I will take freedom over oppression and provide for my own security as I have always done. The grumbling has already started at the Joe six-pack level and is getting louder with each passing over-reach by this administration and high self-anointed minions.Closing of national parks and monuments was the beginning of the real awakening, things like Duck Dynasty was another layer. The cancellation of millions of insurance policies will be met with the cancellation of hundreds of millions later this year when employers start dropping people might be enough to bring the rest of the current silent people to their feet.

    Well, no matter what I will have a happy tear and these are going to be interesting times in history.

  6. Retired Spook January 1, 2014 / 4:54 pm

    I was cleaning off my desk this morning, and came across several issues of Hillsdale College’s newsletter, “Imprimis” from the last year that got lost in the shuffle and had gone un-read — until today. They were all interesting, as Imprimis usually is, but none more-so than this one. It explains, in clear and certain terms, just how we got to where we are.

    • Cluster January 2, 2014 / 8:56 am

      Two systemic problems – career politicians and baseline budgeting. Good article Spook.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 9:07 am

        Hey, Cluster. Happy New Year. I figured you had retired to Costa Rica. I stopped by your blog the other day to see if you were still around, and it looks like it’s been taken over by KMG Looney Tunes. Wasn’t he the one who always used to complain that B4V was nothing more than an echo chamber of like-minded people? Too funny.

      • Cluster January 2, 2014 / 9:23 am

        Happy New Year right back at ya. And the irony of that blog is rich. All of them complained at one point or another that B4V was an echo chamber and now the replication of that fact goes unnoticed. Their tolerance is not what they purport it to be either, another fact that shouldn’t surprise anyone. And you’re right, KMG, whom I am convinced does not understand what a subsidy is, is currently leading the parade.

        Costa Rica looks better everyday. Familiarize yourself with a little seaside village called Tamarindo. I will meet you there one day.

      • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 10:42 am

        cluster, I’ve never been one for “I-told-you-sos” but man, you really set yourself up for this one.

        Correction: They did not replicate a “fact”. They created their own version of what they claimed B4V is. B4V is not and never has been an echo chamber. It has always been a place where opposing opinions could be presented and argued. It simply came to realize that opposing opinions were not being presented and argued, supported or defended, but had become a litter box where the mentally unstable were depositing their mental excrement, and took steps to stop that.

        We disagree with each other, we argue, and we encourage—-nay, we BEG—-the opposition to present their position, explain it, and defend it. You found out for yourself what happens when these people and their pathologies are not restrained.

      • Cluster January 2, 2014 / 11:30 am

        Oh I went it to it willingly, so no “set up” was involved. I also had no expectations of the outcome, and actually pretty much expected what has transpired. I saw Hugh Hewitt interviewed recently and he echoed a sentiment I share and that is that he harbors no personal animosity towards the liberals he debates, it’s just that politically they are wrong about everything.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 11:49 am

        I saw Hugh Hewitt interviewed recently and he echoed a sentiment I share and that is that he harbors no personal animosity towards the liberals he debates

        I used to feel that way when I had myself convinced that my differences with my liberal friends were just politics, but the fundamental transformation of America has taken the debate waaaaaaay beyond politics. We now have a fundamental conflict of our vision for the future of America, and I would, without hesitation, lay down my life to ensure that my descendants don’t have to live under the Progressive vision for the future. That makes it pretty hard to remain friends with anyone who voted for Obama, because they either share his vision or enable his vision. Either way they support something that I find not just repugnant, but worth dying to prevent.

      • Cluster January 2, 2014 / 11:55 am

        I don’t necessarily disagree. With every fiber in my being I oppose their agenda, but lingering animosity harms my soul and as I age, my quest is to become more spiritually connected with the teachings of Jesus Christ and my Faith. Have you read Killing Jesus? Unbelievable book.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 12:20 pm

        but lingering animosity harms my soul and as I age, my quest is to become more spiritually connected with the teachings of Jesus Christ and my Faith.

        That is something I struggle with every day. I don’t necessarily have “lingering animosity” toward my ideological enemies, but I certainly don’t have room for them in my life. Think of the German who voted for Hitler, who was good friends with his Jewish neighbor. He would never have advocated gassing his neighbor to death and throwing his corpse in an oven, but he enabled someone who did just that. That, I believe, is where we could be headed if we don’t turn this ship around. The Weather Underground, founded by one of Obama’s political mentors, honestly believed that, if they came to power back in the 70’s, they would have to eliminate as many as 25 million Americans who refused to be “re-educated”. A number of people with that mind-set are now in positions of influence in our government.

      • neocon01 January 3, 2014 / 7:52 am

        your new blog = anti christian bigots, racist, hetrophobes, hurling insults, slurs, and derogatory insults accusing all conservatives as being racist, bigots, homophobes….Ooh the irony!! LOL
        any way Happy New year to ya 🙂

      • neocon01 January 3, 2014 / 8:03 am

        Back three days and already back to attacking blog moderation and standards. Maybe you never figured out this was one of the reasons you were off the blog for a while. Maybe you can figure it out now. // Moderator

    • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 12:30 pm

      I wouldn’t consider my attitude toward all D-voters as “animosity”. Life is too short to rent out space in your head for other people to fill with hatred and negativity.

      However, I do have contempt for a lot of those on the Left, in varying degrees. The trolls whose pathology is superficially linked to pseudo-politics are beneath contempt. Ditto for those who callously manipulate the minds and hearts of the ignorant and gullible, the Sharptons and so on, and ditto for those at the top, like Obama and Holder and Pelosi and Reid. Disgusting, and inexcusable.

      Next, going down the list in descending order of contempt, are Lefty activists who are ardent and passionate but who don’t have the slightest idea of what they are really supporting, and who don’t really care as long as they can carry on about their pet issues, who are contemptible because they are ignoring their responsibility to the nation because of their tunnel vision and ego involvement, and they cause great harm.

      And then there are the bumper sticker D’s who are so stupid, so clueless, that they fall for the most blatant trickery, such as the “War on Women”.

      There’s not animosity here, I just don’t respect them. I do hold them accountable for their stupidity. These are the masses whose numbers kept this nation under the thumb of anti-American Leftist radicals whose goal is, as they carefully put it, to “fundamentally transform America”. Well, this fundamental transformation of America is about tearing this country down so it will be vulnerable to rebuilding in the Socialist/Marxist model.

      In a truly fair world, these morons would be the only ones losing their insurance, getting bumped to part-time jobs because of Obamanomics, and watching their adult children move back home because they can’t get jobs. Sadly, they have imposed their ignorance and stupidity on people who have seen through the lies and promises, and they have to be held accountable.

      And these are the ones I would like to see facing the “Still proud of that Obama bumper sticker, DumbAss?” bumper stickers and billboards wherever they go. “That Obama bumper sticker must be making you feel pretty stupid by now”. “Stiffed by Obamacare? Thank the next driver you see with an Obama bumper sticker.” “Did you vote for Obama? Thanks for nothing.” And so on.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 12:51 pm

        I do have contempt for a lot of those on the Left, in varying degrees

        Contempt is the word I was searching for.

      • Cluster January 2, 2014 / 12:56 pm

        There is a false “sense of superiority” mindset amongst many on the left which leads them into believing that they are the only ones truly compassionate towards the plight of man. Because of this, they continue to construct false perceptions of what conservatism is, and attack that construct. Case in point: I laid out in detail on more than one occasion what I believed to be the answer to healthcare and as all of you can expect, it was vastly different than Obamacare. A while later on another thread, I was accused of supporting the position of “I have my healthcare so screw everyone else”, because I did not wholly endorse Obamacare. That was the beginning of the end for me. Recently, I read on one of the threads that conservatives want the poor to live on the streets and eat out of garbage cans because we challenge the raise in minimum wage and the escalation of food stamps. There really is no point in continuing a dialogue with that mindset.

      • M. Noonan January 3, 2014 / 4:34 am


        They are pretty impenetrable – right now, I’m having an argument on Twitter with a bunch of atheists and it is a bit like hitting your head against a brick wall. They make an accusation, you answer it, they claim it isn’t “proof” and then make another accusation…all the while in a tone of “who is this idiot that I’m talking to?”.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 1:34 pm

        There really is no point in continuing a dialogue with that mindset.

        I believe I said something similar to you a while back. Welcome back.

      • neocon01 January 3, 2014 / 7:54 am

        many on the left are atheists, communists, muslim supporters, anti Christophobes all.

  7. ricorun January 1, 2014 / 6:08 pm

    Happy New Year! I think it’s appropriate to mark the occasion by pointing out the founding of a new conservative group dedicated to the promotion of clean energy, the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum. What I find particularly interesting about the group is that they articulate a number of very important reasons for promoting clean energy — reasons that should be near and dear to the hearts of most conservatives. But it appears they have been largely ignored in favor of some irrational connection that goes something like this: “climate change doesn’t exist so therefore clean energy is just a leftist folly”. Personally, I’m quite sure the first part is wrong (i.e., climate change really does exist). But that’s beside the point. The point is that the accuracy of the second part is not dependent upon the accuracy of the first part. As the Michigan Conservative Energy Forum points out, promoting clean energy makes sense for a lot of really good reasons.

    Perhaps it’s worth mentioning, on the occasion of his retirement, that it was dear old Spook who got me interested in these sorts of questions in the first place, many years ago. And I think we both agreed early on that it was more productive to examine solutions to the worldwide energy problem than it was to debate the accuracy of climate change science. Nothing much came of it, though. Instead, this blog features at least one (increasingly goofy) post on climate change every month, but hardly anything on clean energy. And when there is something it’s negative (e.g., Solyndra’s bankruptcy), reinforcing the notion that clean energy is just a leftist folly.

    The problem is that despite the roadblocks occasioned by such negative attitudes the cost of wind turbines have fallen 25% in the last four years, and over 90% in the last two decades. Likewise, a single solar PV cell cost $76.67/watt back in 1977. This year they’re selling for $0.64/watt. As a result, both wind and solar PV are getting very close to grid parity with fossile fuel parity, and in fact have achieved parity in some markets. Remarkable.

    Wind and solar PV technologies are farther along than many others (e.g., solar thermal, tidal, wave, enhanced geothermal energy), but they are still only in their early childhood years. It’s quite possible that the best is yet to come. Yet, in spite of the remarkable achievements that have already occurred, and in spite of their amazing future potential, as of today the federal production tax credit (PTC) program has lapsed. Again. For the second year in a row. What frustrates me about that is that though conservatives in general are fond of saying they’re in favor of promoting clean energy, they seem to be against any program to actually promote clean energy. A prime example is the PTC program. It’s mostly conservative legislators who are against it. I’m not sure why, but I suspect the powerful fossil fuel lobbies have a lot to do with it. At any rate, if you can come up with a clean energy incentive program that is both more effective while at the same time more consistent with conservative sensibilities, please let us know. And if you can’t, please notify your congress critters that you are for reinstating the PTC program — and in a way that assures predictable continuity. Nothing is more corrosive to business of any sort than uncertainty.

    • Amazona January 1, 2014 / 9:11 pm

      rico,you must be the happiest little guy in the world, given your ability to entertain yourself by inventing statements and then developing elaborate responses to them.

      A great example: “climate change doesn’t exist so therefore clean energy is just a leftist folly”.
      And just look at all the verbiage you managed to generate, in response to something you invented in the first place.

      Yeah, climate change does exist. It exists short-term, as we can see ourselves. It exists long-term, as we can see in the evidence of fossils, glacial ice, etc. No one, and I do mean NO ONE, claims that climate change does not exist.

      This is such a tired old trick of the mindless and of the Left—excuse me if I repeat myself.

      But gee, it was such a tempting target, so easy to attack, you just couldn’t resist, could you?

      And then there is the bland assumption that the term “clean energy” is universally defined. Clean if it creates horrible noise pollution? Clean if it kills off birds? Clean if it is butt ugly so no one wants to be around it? Clean if it interferes with yachting by the very rich? Clean if it requires huge transmission lines? Clean if the fuel itself is clean but requires vast amounts of other fuel, and water, and labor, and machinery that pollutes the air, to make it? Define “clean”.

      But it is such a cute catchphrase, and sounds so enticing—kind of like how “Liberal” and “Progressive” suck people in because of the images they project, never mind any underlying reality.

      I’m all for alternative energy. I have often posted here about passive solar, about various building techniques. I haven’t kept up with biodiesel so I don’t know if it has panned out or was a pipe dream, but it was a very intriguing prospect, certainly vastly better than the ethanol scam. I have friends who built their house using geothermal techniques and if I had built from scratch I would have had a hybrid ICF house with geothermal energy combined with passive solar and some active solar.

      The problem is when the easily distracted get drawn into all sorts of emotion-based silly arguments, often with themselves, and taint them with bias and bigotry, so the result is gibberish.

      The issue here has never been one of whether or not alternative energy is a good thing, desirable, worth pursuing. It has always been one of why the hell does government have to try to control it, shove it down our throats, mandate it, legislate it, tax its opposition, and in general bully us to force us to accept half-cocked theories and unproven technology.

      It’s never been about the energy or where it comes from. It has always been about the lies, the hysteria, the personal attacks on those who don’t go sloping off after every new idea that comes along, the shrill and strident claims of corruption or stupidity or whatever about those who question the highly questionable. It is about the politicization of the energy question, the divisiveness that accompanies it because the Left cannot tolerate any diversion from its rigid ideologies.

      And it’s been about forcing people to pay for stuff that is garbage, forcing people to live the way others think they should instead of the way they want to.

    • GMB January 1, 2014 / 9:34 pm

      I notice you did did not post the price of any type of battery bank or other equipment needed to get solar working in your home. Considering the total price just to get solar in my small Greenhouse up and running was around $6K I can see why that was failed to be mentioned.

      Let’s not even talk about a system that runs on solar/wind combined. You can double the price and still be stuck with the prospect of having your batteries go under 50% charge and having your whole system shut down when you have to have heat.

      When the Sun doesn’t shine and the Wind doesn’t blow. Natural gas and burning oil will still work. Not only that, natural gas and are still abundant resources and relatively cheap to get into a usable state.

      Until wind and solar are just as effective as natural gas and oil, they will just be another progressive dream.

      Kind of like all that ice now trapping 52 “climate scientists” that doesn’t exist in the Antarctic. The funniest part of that story? They are now waiting to be rescued by, wait a minute here, a evil “fossil fuel” burning helicopter.

      So far none of these progressives have volunteered to freeze to death to save mother gaia.

      What a bunch of effn bastards.

      • neocon01 January 2, 2014 / 4:40 am

        yeahhhhhhh REAL enviromentally friendly there Reek-0

    • tiredoflibbs January 2, 2014 / 7:29 am

      Great catch Amazona!

      Interesting that rico does not mention the process for constructing said PV “cheap” cell is dirty and toxic to humans…. not to mention the building the batteries required to support such a system is dirty and toxic as well. I wonder if the last lead smelting plant in the USA forced closed by draconian EPA regulations will affect the price and construction of said batteries as well (affects of lead production on ammunition but that is besides the point).

      But hey, it makes for great politics and a method for bashing the conservatives who look at the big picture and not the short term “feel good” result mindlessly regurgitated by the left.

      • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 10:41 am

        tired, I think it is the same people who were so thrilled by the insipid platitude “Hope and Change” ,who get suckered in by feel-good-about-yourself words like “PROgressive” and “Liberal”, who also swallow that lovely word “clean” without the slightest interest in what lies behind the curtain.

        They are so easy to manipulate. The fact that we have a President Obama for a second term is proof of that.

    • J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock) January 2, 2014 / 8:28 am

      Personally, I’m quite sure the first part is wrong (i.e., climate change really does exist).

      As Amazona notes, only someone living under a rock would deny that climate changes. We see evidence of it going back millions of years, long before man-made greenhouse gases were ever a reality. But in order to have catastrophic and sudden climate change, you would need, it seems to me, catastrophic and sudden temperature change, and even the IPCC is backing off their claims on that. My only question is, what will be the next civilization-ending, wealth redistributing crisis concocted by the Left to replace global warming/climate change, as it seems that that one has pretty well run its course?

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 8:44 am

        even the IPCC is backing off their claims on that.

        Christopher Monckton had a great guest essay at Wattsupwiththat yesterday entitled IPCC silently slashes its global warming predictions in the AR5 final draft, addressing that very issue, J.R. I loved the way he ends his piece:

        If anyone ever again tries to tell you The Science Is Settled, as the now-axed Klimate Kommissariat in Australia is still trying to do in its latest taxpayer-funded propaganda sheet, point to Fig. 9 and ask two questions.

        First, point to the red zone marked Projections and ask which of the very wide range of official projections The Science has Settled upon.

        Secondly, point to the green zone marked Observations and ask why the real climate has so persistently failed to pay any attention to the Settled Science.

        Then sit back and listen to the increasingly demoralized and disjointed flannel. As the nonsense runs down, the game is up.

      • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 10:51 am

        ” My only question is, what will be the next civilization-ending, wealth redistributing crisis concocted by the Left to replace global warming/climate change, …”

        Answer: Income Inequality.

    • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 10:50 am

      I noticed, but forgot to point out, that there is no proof this group really IS “conservative”, other than their adoption of the word.

      • Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 12:48 pm

        Color me dense, but which group are you referring to?

      • Amazona January 2, 2014 / 5:42 pm

        The group that got rico so giddy: Michigan Conservative Energy Forum.

  8. Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 1:39 pm

    Another gem from the it-would-be-funny-if-it-weren’t-so-sad file.

  9. Retired Spook January 2, 2014 / 7:45 pm

    More bad news for global warming alarmists in Indiana this week. 5 below zero tonight and 17 below tomorrow night with a high (yes – HIGH) on Saturday of -5. Of course it’s just weather, right?

    • Retired Spook January 3, 2014 / 11:47 am

      Well, either the forecast has changed or I had a senior moment. Low last night was -10. A brief warming spell this weekend with a high tomorrow of 30. Then the deep-freeze sets in. Low Sunday night -17, high Monday -9; low Monday night -17, high Tuesday -7; and low Tuesday night -13. Coldest 3 day stretch in decades if forecast is accurate. Which all begs the question, would solar panels or a windmill help?

  10. GMB January 2, 2014 / 8:44 pm

    We have snow on the Sphinx, ice in the Antarctic growing like in the summer, and hundreds of record low temperatures in the northern hemisphere. Snowfall in Australia recently disrupted a bicycle race at a ski resort that had not had that much snow in 40 plus years.

    Despite mounting evidence to the contrary, despite the vast majority of “climate scientists” to lend their name to anything concrete, despite even the IPCC own admissions, despite proven false climate models, despite growing ad most deserved ridicule, the agw crowd keeps on marching.

    Contrast that to people like, mccain, boehner, cantor, mcconnel, who cave in the second a mannish looking woman on tv calls them a poo poo head.

    Hey some one please tell me, Watts up with That? :O

  11. neocon01 January 3, 2014 / 7:57 am

    Back just three days and already pushing the envelope and drawing lines you challenge us to cross. No more vulgarity no matter how cute you try spell it. No more racial insults. No more white hut comments. No more attacks on homosexuals. No more whining about blog standards. It is what it is. Deal with it or go away. There have been several moderator discussions about allowing you to post at all because you enjoy being offensive, so it will not take much to get you banned for good.

  12. neocon01 January 3, 2014 / 1:34 pm

    Good-bye. We hope you find a home you like better on some other blog. Maybe you will get lucky and find a blog willing to put up with your insults.

  13. ricorun January 3, 2014 / 5:43 pm

    Cluster: There is a false “sense of superiority” mindset amongst many on the left which leads them into believing that they are the only ones truly compassionate towards the plight of man.

    Apparently many of the responses to my post on this thread suggests that the false “sense of superiority” mindset is not unique to the left.

    • tiredoflibbs January 4, 2014 / 7:33 am

      “Apparently many of the responses to my post on this thread suggests that the false “sense of superiority” mindset is not unique to the left.”

      Sadly, in your case, your post was simply wrong. The false “sense of superiority” was with your post and our responses were truthful. Your post only tried to play “gotcha”, but our responses exposed it as such.

      Go back to the other site, where your fellow lefties dismiss anything we say out of hand and their FALSE view of conservatism is exactly the “false sense of superiority” exhibited constantly by the left.

    • Amazona January 4, 2014 / 11:22 am

      Actually, I think when you look up “false sense of superiority” you will find rico’s picture next to the definition.

      Of course, rico doesn’t know if he is on the Left, or the Right—his version of pragmatism keeps him so paralyzed with dithering and indecision, he never has to actually analyze either side, much less take a stand.

    • GMB January 4, 2014 / 3:47 am

      Removed for violation of blog policy about using personal names of posters. //Moderator

      • Amazona January 4, 2014 / 11:19 am

        Uh, GMB, you need to trade in your tinfoil hat.

        I am seldom “offended” and when I am, it is not about crude language or vulgarity. I am not only, as you pointed out, someone who is often exposed to vulgar language—–I do, after all, live in this country and have a TV set——I have to make regular resolutions to clean up my own language.

        Not sure why you have decided to point a finger at me. I don’t know if I read all the posts of neo’s that were deleted, but I do know he has focused very intently on some of what are evidently his pet issues, such as homosexuality and race. I remember a long post which went into great detail about why the black race is inferior, and though I am not, as I said, easily offended, I do think constantly referring to inner city people, which in other posts he identified as black, as “feral animals” was over the top and objectionable. As a Catholic, I know perfectly well that Catholics throughout the ages have been wrong about many many things, from Galileo to the Inquisition to political commentary, so I was not impressed with neo’s lengthy effort to get the Church behind his homophobic ranting. But I can certainly see how someone, anyone, could find these kinds of comments unacceptable, and many have.

        I am sure both you and neo can remember, if you bother to take the time, many many posts objecting to his crudity and his bigotry. I have read posts saying he had been kicked off the blog once before. I don’t know that, but it has been alleged and never rebutted by neo so I assumed it was true. Maybe you two need to stop playing guessing games about who does what and who did what, stop playing the victim card, and just realize that the one responsible for neo being taken off the blog is not me, but neo.

        I’ve had posts removed but it never occurred to me to howl about it, or blame anyone else. I have always known this is a private blog, I post here at the sole discretion of the owners, and I have no inherent right to say anything I want to say. It never even occurred to me to play victim and blame someone else for something I did. As far as I am concerned, the blog owners could wake up some day and say “from now on we will remove any post with the letter Q in it”, and as a guess—-just a guess, mind you——if I were to react to that with outrage and name calling I might find myself unwelcome.

        And I do know I have seen temper tantrums when neo did not get his own way, and assumptions he has the right to say whatever he wants to say, so I have no problem believing that he reacted to having a post edited in a way that was simply not acceptable.

        Man up, you two babies, and stop prowling around trying to find someone else to blame.

      • neocon01 January 4, 2014 / 1:18 pm

        Man up, you two babies, and stop prowling around trying to find someone else to blame.

        there is NO one blaming anyone, but to take down every rebuttal or answer and leave big bold screaming accusations and smears based on ONE “moderators” opinion smells of leftist alinsky tactics.
        I do not know who this particular moderator is, but obviously they have a vendetta and is attempting to ban me, If so MAN UP and identify your self and explain your actions….COWARD!!

        Moderator comments are routinely put in bold letters. Check it out. No “smears” have been written about you or anyone else. If you do not know who this moderator is, it is reckless and improper to make any accusations. If you have learned the personal name of a poster because that person trusted you and then you told another person this name that is a betrayal of trust. A friend of yours used the personal name of another poster on the blog, which is betrayal of trust for both of you. This post has been removed for this violation of blog policy. It was the blog policy when people posted what they said was your personal information. There is no vendetta. There are several moderators, both regular moderators and guest moderators. The goal of all is to ensure that the blog is a forum for rational discussion primarily about politics but can extend to other topics on occasion. Blog standards are at the discretion of the owners of the blog and to some extent of those chosen to help them moderate. They are objective and not based on any personal dislike. You have had many posts removed, sometimes five or six in a week. You have repeatedly been warned of various violations of blog policy. You have been kicked off the blog in the past for the same kind of behavior. You have a long history of posting offensive material and opinions. It is not the fault of any blog representative that you refuse to learn from your experiences. Moderators and owners have discussed banning you for good but decided to see if you could behave yourself. You can reserve the right to disagree with blog policy but you do not have the right to set it. You can reserve the right to determine what you think is appropriate content for the blog but you do not have the right to make that decision for the blog in general. There is no requirement of any poster or moderator to reveal any personal information and you have no authority to demand it.
        You make the choice to post here and when you do you also make the choice to abide by blog regulations and standards. Those standards include not attacking or insulting people for enforcing them. Your posts this year have been hostile and insulting toward blog owners and moderators. This post has been left to show your attitude of entitlement. You do not have any entitlement to post here or to attack or insult moderators. When you violate blog policy you have no right to rebuttal. It is what it is. You follow it or you go somewhere else. Many other posters have learned this lesson. You are not singled out.
        Your posts will be removed until January 15. This is the kind of time out given to children who misbehave. It is not the first time you have had a time out. If you think you can force yourself to be civil you can return then. If you think you can learn to post ideas and commentary instead of just repeating the same quotes and comments you can return then. If you think you can post without references that are vulgar, racist or homophobic you can return then. If moderation does not agree with your definition of those terms, the decision of moderation will be final. If you continue to insult moderators and blog owners you will not be allowed to post here again. //Moderator

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