Open Thread

If you’re digging up dirt on Melania Trump then you are just being lousy. She’s the spouse, not the candidate.

The MSM is convinced that Trump did not have a good day yesterday. I’m not sure he had a good day or a bad day, mostly because it’s hard to tell what the heck is happening in 2016. But one thing I will say: he definitely ripped the lid off the hypocrisy of our immigration debate. Essentially, people are shocked and hurt that Trump said we should enforce U.S. law regarding immigration. The non-Trump position is now, “any desire to have any immigration or border laws is bad”…and I’ve seen some #NeverTrump people finally come out and admit that they are #ImWithHer over this. Trust me on this – any Conservative who now jumps on the Hillary bandwagon will be a full-blown Progressive within 6 months – partially because their new Progressive friends will insist (Progressives really, really hate dissent) and partially because a lot of Conservatives are turning out to have always been Progressives who merely want a low corporate tax rate. A lot of illusions are dying in 2016 – one of the main things to go down is the illusion that there ever was a Conservative movement. We genuine Conservatives will not be rebuilding, but building for the first time a Conservative movement in 2017.

Hint: it won’t look anything like the false-Conservative thing which has proved a barnacle on American politics for the last 20 years.

Zika is now in Miami Beach – because we all thought the 21st century was going to be about insect-borne disease, right?

I completely understand Jonah Goldberg’s call to purge the Alt Right – but I do wonder why the left never has to purge their extremists?

Nate Silver – proof that even among Progressives you can find a sensible person from time to time.

The thing about Hillary is that there appears to be no bottom to her corruption.

St. Thomas More was a Conservative:

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46 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster September 2, 2016 / 8:47 am

    I thought Trump framed the immigration debate better than anyone when he said that the media and political class want to make this issue all about the 11 million illegal immigrants and what we need to do for them, when in reality we need to make this debate about the 300 million American citizens and what we do for them. Trump is the first politician to initiate an adult conversation about the immigration issue in a long time and naturally the over emotional media elite are freaking out.

    Re: the Alt Right – I don’t even know what this is, and please don’t fall for the labels that progressives try to pin on their opponents. Whatever this group is, they are definitely a fringe minority, whereas the real extremists exist within the Democrat party.

    Re: conservatism, I realized in 2012 that there was a big problem. If someone like Mitt Romney can not win, then conservatism either does not have the numbers to be a majority, or is so splintered that no one will be able to coalesce the movement. I also realized we had a problem when the numerous Tea Party candidates who were sent to Congress, did very little to advance the agenda or at the very least make a strong stand against the progressive agenda, with the exception of a few; Cruz, Lee, & Paul. I think this election cycle has shown the true colors of some people who have cowered in the face of shaming and that is a quality in Trump that I have come to appreciate. He doesn’t cower for anyone, whereas people like George Will have run for the covers. Mitt Romney also cowered in the final two debates which led to his defeat, and if conservatives continue to be afraid of shaming, we will never win. We are on the right side of every issue and it’s time we stand up and be heard, loudly.

    • M. Noonan September 2, 2016 / 10:53 pm

      I can’t say as I’ve interacted much with the Alt Right but from observation I think I can boil them down to this:

      1. They don’t know much history, but know slightly more than Progressives.

      2. They appear to be mostly young people – this isn’t as shocking as one might think because kids always look for something new. Having been force-fed Progressive nonsense it is now the uncool thing…so, to be transgressive, they look for something else.

      3. I’ll bet quite a large number of them did/do spend far too much time playing video games and have picked up certain warped ethical ideas from such immersion in gaming. One of the things is probably a view that the darker side of things is cool.

      4. Almost none of the are racists in the rational sense of the word – they are only racists because Progressives say that anyone who doesn’t subscribe 100% to their views is racist. Some of them have taken up a bizarre mish-mash of Pagan neo-Nazism and Anarchism and thus go in for things like “blood and soil”, but if you really look at what they say, it is mostly a joke to them. You’ll see some of them with #AltRight #Zionist #Constitutionalist #WhiteLivesMatter hashtags on their Twitter bios…they are pulling a leg quite vigorously. This does not, of course, leave out the real risk that once down certain paths, all sorts of evil can emerge…but this is just as true about Progressive youths who have well learned how to hate due to walking all the way down the Progressive road.

      5. They like Trump not due to any intellectual construct, but simply because he’s a grenade being thrown into a system they view as inherently corrupt.

  2. Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 11:57 am

    Mark

    I completely agree with your statement, “We genuine Conservatives will not be rebuilding, but building for the first time a Conservative movement in 2017.”

    Do you feel this (re)building can occur within the GOP that got us here? Obviously Amazona and I disagree on this point and I am curious about your opinion.

    • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 2:09 pm

      And I am curious as to your opinion on what a new conservative movement looks like. For example, what would be the 3 most important positions this new movement would adopt and promote? And give me 3 names of people who could lead this movement.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 2:25 pm

        Cluster

        The positions would be as they always have been for true Conservatism. Constitutionalism. Minimal Federal government. Minimal business regulations. None of this changes just because our old platform, the GOP, has failed us.

        Look, I know points have been made because I said I am going Libertarian. I am not going with that party because I believe in their platform. I would go with ANY party – ok, maybe not the American Nazi Party (maybe) – in which that Conservatives can coalesce. Getting that party into the debates by polling +15% I hope will form the critical mass to attract Conservatives. Yes, I know that isn’t going to happen this time around but a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step, right?

        I feel it is better to take over an established party than to rebuild the GOP. There is just too much baggage in the GOP and too many old-skool hangers-on that will be impossible to oust before real change could happen. I think any revolution from within will be suffocated by the party infrastructure.

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 2:52 pm

        Constitutionalism. Minimal Federal government. Minimal business regulations.

        Those are empty platitudes and you will never win on those positions because our dumbed down society has no idea what this means or how it affects their lives, and that’s the crux of the issue. Conservatives don’t know how to sell their ideology. Also, I encourage you to read Trumps position statements on his website because I think you will find that downsizing the federal government and streamlining regulations are a big part of his overall plan.

    • M. Noonan September 2, 2016 / 10:42 pm

      There is still a slight chance the GOP can be the vehicle, but I more see it as splitting off 40% of the GOP and 20% of the Democrats to form a new party.

  3. Cluster September 2, 2016 / 3:50 pm

    Let’s just be clear about something. Not voting for Trump is indirectly giving Hillary the advantage because conservatives need every vote possible. And if Hillary does win, the following is an example of the type of judgement she will bring to the office:

    Clinton told FBI agents she could not remember ever receiving any training for how to preserve federal records or treat classified material.

    “Clinton could not give an example of how classification of a document was determined,” the FBI wrote in its notes.

    “Clinton did not recall receiving any emails she thought should not be on an unclassified system,” the FBI wrote.

    “Clinton stated deliberation over a future drone strike did not give her cause for concern regarding classification,” the notes said.

    Hillary has no idea how anyone designates info to be classified or not, and did you read that last one? Hillary doesn’t think that information on possible future drone strikes should be classified.

    Not voting for Trump is as bad as handing the keys to this country over to a documented liar and thief, and if that happens there will be no need for a “new conservative party”.

    • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 5:27 pm

      I’ll start this post as you did yours. Let’s be clear about something…

      Hillary Clinton is going to be the next President.

      I hate that fact but a fact it surely is a fact. Rather than piss in the wind about that fact, I accept it and am acting accordingly. My vote for Not Trump will not put her in the White House, it is the millions of votes of our enemies that will put her there.

      The Trump campaign continues to falter at every opportunity. I know you like his speeches on immigration and race, but those speeches are clearly aimed at his own demographic; neither was made to widen his appeal at the voting booth. The press continues to bob the knob of the Clinton campaign and clearly nothing is coming of her criminal acts. She. Will. Win.

      As to the “platitudes” I used to describe conservatism, the goals you label are unwinnable positions, they are the very core of Conservatism. They define how Conservatives should think, act and legislate. Maybe they aren’t winning words in a campaign commercial but they are winning words for how a political party comports itself.

      Do you NOT believe those words define your own conservative views?

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 5:46 pm

        Of course those “core” positions have my support but I am not interested in simply being in a club of conservatives where we talk about the virtues of conservatism. I am interested in winning and to win, we have to sell those core principles. We have to translate how those principles positively impact peoples lives, and to not back down when confronted with shaming, name calling or misinformation as Romney did in 2012, and McCain did in 2008. This is what Trump is doing and I do not at all believe that Hillary is an automatic winner. Her criminal actions are just now being exposed and her lying is well documented, so how any conservative can at this point just throw in the towel is beyond me. Trump is getting good advice and now doing many of the right things. According to some polls, he already has more black support than Romney did, and has 22% hispanic support and growing compared to Romney’s 24% hispanic support.

        Here’s an anecdotal story too, I was just in San Diego for a few days and was surprised at how many Trump signs I saw, but even more surprised after realizing that I had not seen one Hillary sign. Not one. Hillary will not at all bring out the votes than Obama did and that fact right there bodes well for us.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 5:51 pm

        How is Trump getting elected a win for those principles you consider core to Conservatism? Don’t tell me to read his positions, as his positions have changed and are subject to change any time he mounts a podium.

        Add to that my key point, that Trump will lose. The GOP will lose.

        Seeing as “my team” is going to lose no matter what, I will look for another team that will hopefully attracts my old team’s true stars, and maybe in a few years the new Conservative team can get back competitively into the game.

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 6:11 pm

        Who are your old teams stars?

      • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 5:53 pm

        Wow, he’s up to one in five Hispanics voting for him. He is almost to where the last GOP loser was. Almost.

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 6:10 pm

        An unreported fact is that no candidate needs any minority votes to win. There are enough white people to win any election, and what Trump is doing is stunting the minority vote for Hillary while motivating white people to vote for him. It’s a win win if it works. We don’t need hispanic votes or black votes to win, we just need to convince cowardly white people to get behind a movement that will stop the progressives from selling out our country. You obviously don’t think the Democrats are as dangerous as I do.

        Re: Hillary’s crimes, they are so blatant that even the compliant press will not be able to cover for her. Stay tuned. There is a lot of time left.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 5:55 pm

        Hillary has committed criminal acts? Not according to the kneepad press. She has never even had a speeding ticket. Maybe you should check sources…

      • Bob Eisenhower September 2, 2016 / 6:45 pm

        It doesn’t matter whether I think Hillary is worse than Trump. Hillary is, unfortunately, going to win.

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 6:55 pm

        And you’re a defeatist too, but so are most conservatives. It’s mind boggling to me how quickly conservatives abandon the fight. How many times have we heard from our elected conservative representatives tell us that “now is not the time to fight”? The answer is too many times. They seldom fight for their “core principles”. John McCain has been a member of the Senate for over 30 years and the government has grown in size and scope every year since then so why should I have any Faith in his ability to get anything done? So I will ask you again, who are these conservative superstars?

      • Cluster September 2, 2016 / 7:03 pm

        Question, if Trump wins then what? What will you do then?

      • M. Noonan September 2, 2016 / 11:02 pm

        Institutionally, she has all the power behind her – including a very large segment of supposedly Conservative power (a good number of big GOP donors have signed on to her campaign). Given all she has, she should bury Trump under a landslide such has not been seen since 1984. But, in the RCP average for a four-way race, she’s barely ahead nationally outside the margin of error. It is true that it appears that VA and CO have gone firmly blue for 2016, but IA, NV and PA are teetering on the edge of red…there are reports that Team Hillary is already measuring drapes for the Oval Office, but even some Progressives are reading the tea leaves and wondering just how real her lead is.

        Trump should not win – it is impossible to win when you’re being outspent like that, when you don’t have the in-depth ground game, when a good deal of the elite of your party are, to say the least, doubtful about what you represent. On the other hand, Trump should not have won the primaries….because he was massively outspent by Bush, massive out-organized by Cruz and back during the primaries, the elite of the party were even more doubtful of him.

        As I’ve been saying since, I think, back last November, Trump only wins if a new electorate is made…where some millions of people who had sat it out for years decide that he’s the man to break up the corrupt establishment. I’ll tell you as much as anyone – crowd size doesn’t mean you’re doing well. What wins elections is getting down into the nitty gritty and dragging people to the polls. That is all true; I believe it as much as any pundit out there…but I hold out the possibility that in a genuine political tsunami, anything is possible. And if Trump is about to bring 7 million new voters to the polls, it simply will not show up in polls or in GOTV efforts until election day.

      • Amazona September 3, 2016 / 12:25 am

        Constitutionalism. Minimal Federal government. Minimal business regulations.

        These are not three positions. The second two are byproducts of the first.

        I can’t think of anyone who could or would lead a procession of conservative Republicans into a new or different party.

        Most Republicans don’t need “converting” because they are not deeply ideological. What we need is culling of the elites from the top, but most of all we need the ongoing support of conservatives for Republicans who ARE conservative.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 3, 2016 / 6:30 pm

        Cluster

        “if Trump wins then what? What will you do then?”

        I will do the exact same thing as I’d do when Clinton wins, same as I did when Obama and Bush and that other Clinton won. I will live my life and try to get those around me on-board with Conservative values.

        Look, when was the last time ANY Presidential election had an immediate, dramatic impact on your life? Unless you’re an air-traffic controller in 1980, an inauguration changes little. This is why I do not fear a Clinton presidency, as the ship of government turns slowly no matter who is at the helm.

        My problems with Trump are a) much – not all, certainly not you, but much – of his following are what I consider the worst of American culture, and more importantly, b) my old party, the GOP, has dropped all pretense of sharing my views in order to back a man they CLEARLY despise politically just so they can stay in power.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 3, 2016 / 8:57 pm

        Ket me amend my “worst of American culture” comment. It isn’t that Trump attracts America’s worst elements, it is how he embraces and encourages those elements to action.

        Compare John McCain’s response in his election to the woman who called Obama an untrustworthy secret muslim. He politely refuted her and affirmed that he and Obama differ in many ways but Obama is a good man. And, yes, McCain lost the election but he did not lose his self-respect. Trump would have encouraged the woman’s statement and amplified it with his unique savoire faire.

        I have always liked Trump, the entertainment personality, but Trump the President scares me to pieces.

      • M. Noonan September 4, 2016 / 12:02 am

        To stay away from kookery is a requirement for a national leader and Trump does fail, at times, to do that – but the flip side of it has been, quite simply, that the GOP has not attacked the Democrats as ruthlessly as necessary. It was during the Bork hearings in 1986 that the Democrats decided to go all out – nothing, no matter how patently untrue or nauseating, was to be held back. In order to win, Democrats will make the most outrageously false statements if they believe it necessary (and they usually do because, policy-wise, Democrats are very unpopular). Now, to be sure, no Conservative should go into falsehood – but, on the other hand, we don’t have to.

        As Matt and I detailed in Caucus of Corruption back in 2007, corruption is endemic to the Democrat Party. Its not just that from time to time a Democrat is on the take – from what we were able to determine, the whole Democrat Party system is built on the basis of corruption. It is a simple bit of math for them – the punishments meted out for corruption are usually far lower than the profits they make from it in terms of political power. Pelosi got deep into corruption on her very first campaign as a Democrat politician…and found that the fine for the illegal funding was far less than the funding…and as no one goes to jail for such things (except Dinesh D’Souza)… One of the things we detailed was to show just how you can bribe a Democrat – one particular Democrat congressman was running unopposed for re-election. So, nothing to do, right? Wrong. He sets up a full blown campaign and hires his wife at $500,000.00 to be his campaign manager…people donate to the “campaign” and the Mrs puts the money into the bank account. All perfectly legal…and when Democrats talk about getting money out of politics, you’ll note they never talk up such things like that.

        But Republicans don’t hit them on that sort of thing – the MSM doesn’t, either, but that is because the MSM is nothing but a bunch of Democrats with by-lines…but, still, if the GOP were to bring it up it would then be brought up…it can’t be ignored. Now, why doesn’t the GOP? Partially because some GOPers are as deep in the corruption as Democrats (but it is not endemic to the GOP as it is to the Democrats), but mostly I think because they simply don’t want to rock the boat. These Democrats are often their good friends…to attack them where it would really hurt would mean their friends are getting hammered. Hard to do that.

        McCain typifies this – the Democrats are his “esteemed colleagues”…who will shaft him at the earliest possible moment, if it is necessary to advance Democrat power. He simply will not see it that way – and so he goes along with them, essentially giving them bipartisan cover when the Democrats break out the shivs. That has to come to an end – politics, as has been said, isn’t bean bag…and it’s time for Conservatism to really punch back.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 9:19 am

        Trump “scares” you? Has Trump ever lied to Americans in order to advance an agenda that negatively impacted their lives? Has Trump ever compromised national security? Has Trump ever lied to Congress? Has Trump ever apologized for America allowing despots and tyrants free reign? Has Trump ever spent trillions of dollars of tax payer money jeopardizing the economic stability of the country? Have Trump supporters ever rioted, looted, and burned down neighborhoods? What is it exactly that scares you Bob? If you think that Trump supporters are the “worst of American culture”, I hate to think what you consider Obama supporters to be.

        Re: McCain, wouldn’t it be nice if Obama had stepped up and refuted all the nasty things being said about Romney? Or Paul Ryan? I just don’t recall Obama refuting the assertion that Romney allowed a woman to die of cancer, or that Paul Ryan wanted seniors to die. Or is civility a one way street? Could it be that it is more incumbent on conservatives to be nice because we are all racist homophobes?

        Re: if Trump wins, I take it from your response that you will still not be in support and will not help a Trump administration advance a conservative agenda preferring instead to splinter conservatives based on your high minded principles which obviously the cretins who support Trump are too stupid to understand. Bob, I think you’re a plant. A progressive playing the role of a conservative on an anonymous blog. Am I wrong?

      • Bob Eisenhower September 4, 2016 / 12:57 pm

        Cluster

        You gotta be kidding. I have issues with a candidate so that makes me a “plant?”

        Who do you think “planted” me here at Blogs for Victory? Do you think the Hillary Campaign is so far sighted as to have a plant post for years to influence the what, twenty or so conservatives on this blog?

        Yes, you caught me. The jig is up. My handlers will surely imprison me for this failure.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 1:13 pm

        Over the years I have come across progressives who feign to be conservative and who always claim that the GOP left them and they have no other refuge. The “woe is me” attitude that seeps from every one of your posts. The attitude that you really can’t be a conservative unless you are a constitutional purist, and anything short of that is hypocrisy. It’s a common progressive strategy and your posts have that feel, particularly considering your insistence that Hillary will win. I can’t think of any real conservative who emphatically insists that. But Lord knows that I don’t want you to vote for anyone who scares you. It’s best to go with some other more congenial candidate who speaks in placid tones so as not too incite any unrest. Or someone who says the right things regardless of their honesty or competence. Let me know when your new conservative club gets started.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 4, 2016 / 1:07 pm

        Cluster

        I keep saying this but you don’t want to hear it. This isn’t about Trump vs. Hillary, it is about the failure of the GOP to support Conservativism.

        Let me ask you this. If the GOP nominated Hillary Clinton, would you still vote GOP? Apparently, the GOP would, indeed, nominate HRC if she won the primaries.

        Trump is scary, not because he hasn’t done the same things Clinton has. He is scary because he has no knowlege of how the government he intends to run works, blurts out geopolitically dangerous statements and generally comports himself without diplomacy, spoke nothing of conservative values untill running, and he inspires America’s worst elements. And STILL the GOP backed him.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 3:06 pm

        This election Bob is a hell of a lot bigger than conservatism. This is about stopping the progressive agenda from putting the final nail in America’s coffin and to think that people like you continue to wring your hands over the demise of conservatism makes me question your intelligence. This election is about Americanism vs globalism, and if globalism wins the demise of conservatism will be permanently cemented and will be the least of your worries. How you don’t understand that blows my mind. Also many of the “scary” things you laid out about Trump were also said about Reagan, not that I would ever equate Trump with Reagan, but it’s true. Liberals were apoplectic over Reagan’s use of the term “evil empire”, and his star wars defense. They claimed Reagan was an affable buffoon who didn’t understand the nuances of geopolitics. And for that matter, Obama had zero geopolitical experience but no one ever questioned that and look where we are today. I will also remind you that since Reagan, most of the “conservatives” you have supported have done nothing but aid and abet the progressive agenda to the point where they are just as distrusted as Democrats are, so while many Americans of the conservative bent are trying to save this country from the progressive rabbit hole, I hope you enjoy your bubble of conservatism where constitutional allegiance is paramount and nothing scary is ever said.

      • Bob Eisenhower September 4, 2016 / 4:12 pm

        Cluster

        I have made no statements criticizing the conservatism of others on this blog. In fact, you are the one doing that, right now, to me.

        I suppose that if my current anti-GOP posts were all you knew of me I suppose you could consider me that woe-is-me Progressive in disguise, except that I have spent the last couple years writing otherwise. Only since the GOP pivoted towards Trump have I been anti-GOP.

        Anyhow, you go on saving America from enemies foreign and imagined. The Earth will surely collapse with the election of one more liberal so we may as well back the maniac with no business running a government.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 4:34 pm

        Well you see in my opinion you epitomize the problem with conservatives and Republicans in general. They’re too damn myopic and selfish. Many conservatives wouldn’t vote for Romney because he was the “wrong kind of Christian”, and many others wouldn’t vote for McCain because he was a “RINO”. These are the actions of petulant children. Democrats win on the national stage because they fight dirty and at the end of the day, all of their constituents vote for them because the voters realize that they will ultimately advance the progressive agenda regardless of how distasteful the candidate is. Whereas conservatives apparently become disinterested in advancing the conservative agenda if the candidate doesn’t measure up to their high standards. Trump and the people he surrounds himself with will advance a conservative agenda, it’s just not in a shiny package you find appealing. Tough. Maybe though you can find enough mild mannered, well spoken constitutional scholars to build a coalition around and attract 65+ million votes. Good luck

    • Amazona September 6, 2016 / 12:18 pm

      RE: email issues:

      I have been frustrated by the lack of a “connect the dots” approach by conservatives in discussing the email issue. The Left has been pretty successful in keeping it isolated as just an “email issue” and not letting it be part of a bigger picture, and we have let them.

      I think the first and possibly most important aspect is that the establishment of a private server is proof of premeditation, regarding the planned intent to basically sell American influence to the highest bidder. Hillary’s prior experience with the FOIA and her awareness that material on government sites is both backed up and required to be saved meant the only way to hide her actions was to have a private server.

      For some reason we have not made a big deal out of this premeditation aspect of the whole thing. We’ve kind of let the Complicit Agenda Media and the formerly respected FBI and so on start the narrative in the middle—-the server existed, and what did that mean—without focusing on WHY it existed. To me, anyway, the premeditation is a big deal. She clearly went into that office with the intent of using it for personal enrichment and the first step in that was to set up a private server so she could hide her communications in that regard.

      This is a great article but it doesn’t focus on this as much as I would like. It does show the blatant complicity of the FBI, going so far as to state in its summary that what she said was fact, not just what she said. As an example, instead of the report saying “Mrs. Clinton stated that such and such happened” the report says “such and such happened”.

      http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/09/fbis_302_report_proves_complicity_in_clinton_email_scandal.html

      • Cluster September 6, 2016 / 1:34 pm

        Absolutely. the intent from the very beginning was to conceal and this fact is under reported.

  4. Amazona September 3, 2016 / 12:50 am

    I think a key factor is going to be turnout, and there are indications that the Dem side is having a hard time getting enthusiasm among any but the hard core. So a lot of Latinos don’t like Trump—-a figure that will change if he can get his message across, and the Mexico visit was a good start—but the rest if Latinos are not on fire for Hillary either. I don’t see a lot of enthusiasm from black voters for Hillary, Even if 100% of all black voters vote for her, if the number of black voters falls off that will not be that big a deal.

    You can’t look at one side of an equation without looking at the other. You can’t assume that if ten percent of Latinos like Trump that means 90% like Hillary. Again, she does not stir up much passionate support except in the core of the hard Left.

    Trump’s ads haven’t hit the airwaves yet, at least not in big numbers, and Hillary’s latest ads have been weak. He out there campaigning, looking vigorous and energetic, and she is hiding out while claiming she is healthy and strong. He has press conferences—she refuses. He still hasn’t connected the dots he will need to connect to make sense of a lot of the disjointed and fragmented tidbits of information that have come out about things like Benghazi and the email thing. For example, one of the most important aspects of the private email server is that after Hillary experienced FOIA demands in the White House she knew going into the position of Secretary of State that plans to sell American influence to the highest bidders could never show up on a government server. Americans who don’t understand why the email thing is a big deal need to know that her private server is the smoking gun showing premeditated intent to use her position for personal gain—-and then they might understand why it is a big deal, added to the fact that her efforts to hide her chicanery put the nation at risk. They need to know that Chris Stevens was sent to Benghazi to try to cover up an illegal State Department scheme to put the United States in the middle of the Syrian civil war, and furthermore that State bungled this so badly the weapons they were trying to provide to the rebels ended up in the hands of Al Queda. In other words, if Hillary ramrodding a State Department effort this small went so wrong in such a big way, how can we trust her as Commander in Chief of the whole military?

    It’s not that Hillary is strong—it’s that so far Trump has been weak. But he is figuring it out, he has put together a decent team that is much better at connecting dots and helping him articulate important details. In other words, Hillary is probably dead in the water, not likely to improve her position due to anything she says or does and depending on Trump to screw up and shift more votes her way. Trump, on the other hand, is moving up, has more hands to play, and has more options.

    The sky is not yet falling.

    • Bob Eisenhower September 3, 2016 / 6:34 pm

      The sky has, indeed, fallen.

      A mercurial man totally unqualified for geopolitical endeavors and without any conservative history is being backed by the formerly conservative party solely so the GOP can try – and fail – to hold onto power.

      Hillary Clinton is going to be President, for chrissakes, how can you NOT believe we are living in a sky-free world?.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 10:19 am

        One more question Bob. Hillary and Huma, two women of whom could quite possibly be leading this country, are both married to sexual predators and have at one time or another excused their husbands actions. And these are two women who have the full support of most Democrats for the sake of holding onto power. How does that make you feel?

      • Bob Eisenhower September 4, 2016 / 1:08 pm

        Don’t care. Non-issue even if Cruz were the candidate.

      • Cluster September 4, 2016 / 3:21 pm

        Is there anything about Hillary that would convince you to vote for her opponent?

      • Bob Eisenhower September 4, 2016 / 4:15 pm

        Her opponent and she are equally horrible. Who wins this election is immaterial, as I have stated many times in this thread. I am about rebuilding for the next several election cycles.

        So, no, there is nothing that could come out about Hillary (or Trump for that matter) that would change my vote.

  5. Amazona September 6, 2016 / 6:11 pm

    From a recent Matt Walsh column:

    “So it’s not Hillary’s physical malfunctions that I call pitiful. She can’t be blamed or judged harshly for those, obviously. The pitiful thing is that she — a sick old lady with a lifetime of scandal and corruption to her name, an unofficial criminal record, a sex predator husband, and a closet full of skeletons and dirty laundry that have been and will continue to be uncovered and aired publicly, at least on the internet if not on CNN — is still so desperate for control and authority that she cannot give up the pursuit, even if it kills her. We are all witnessing this disgraced and despised woman as she scratches and bites and kicks and crawls through the muck and the mud, coughing and gasping for breath along the way, hoping to drink from the Cup of Absolute Power just one time before she goes.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    She is, in more than one sense, very much like Gollum, only without the cave or the riddles or the alliance with a giant man-eating spider (well, besides Debbie Wasserman Schultz.."

    http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/hillary-clinton-is-a-sick-woman-addicted-to-power-and-its-pitiful-to-watch

    • M. Noonan September 6, 2016 / 6:44 pm

      It is bizarre – and I was looking into the spending in light of recent polls showing it tied. Trump has only spent 29% of the amount Hillary has, and they are tied. She has every last ounce of traditional American power behind her, and she’s still floundering. Now, I expect that institutional power to do everything it can to drag her over the finish line, and they’ll likely succeed, but my goodness what a waste of time and effort! Just to grasp on to power for a short while longer…she’s got grandkids. She’s rich. She could just be enjoying life…but she can’t let it go.

      • Amazona September 6, 2016 / 10:13 pm

        Trump has only spent 29% of the amount Hillary has, and they are tied.

        This is why I think perhaps Hillary has peaked, has hit her ceiling, and probably can’t add to her support by saying or doing anything. It seems that while the race is not hers to win, it is Trump’s to lose, and it is frustrating to see him trying to lose it.

        Without some additional gaffes from Trump, I see Hillary’s support, such as it is, eroding. Remember, she is still facing ongoing releases of her emails, and perhaps more information on the Benghazi debacle. I wish someone would lay out the whole sequence of that affair. To hear the Complicit Agenda Media version, the entire affair began and ended within a few hours. We need someone to show the whole time line, the decision to supply arms to the Syrian civil war, the bungling of that effort which led to the arms getting into the hands of Al Queda, the dispatch of Stevens to try to use his connections to either get some of them back or to cover up what had happened or (more likely) some of both, the panic when the Americans came under fire because on one hand a rescue effort would call attention to the fact that they were there and perhaps spark questions about why and on the other those who were under attack might come home and talk about why they were there. We need to point out that the most obvious reason for refusing to provide any aid to these people was the gamble that if they all got killed it could be swept under a rug, blamed on something else, and that attention could be diverted away from the reality. This is supported by the effort of both Clinton and Obama to do just that, inventing a “demonstration” and blaming an innocent man for allegedly fomenting a violent reaction to something he did that was the real cause for what happened. It was the lies about the alleged demonstration and the alleged reaction to the video that ended up supporting the theory that people were sacrificed in an attempted coverup. If anyone starts to connect these dots, the erosion of her support ought to speed up.

      • M. Noonan September 6, 2016 / 10:48 pm

        So far, Trump’s ceiling has been about 42%, Hillary’s about 47% (she hit 50% in a couple polls, but the internals on those do indicate a bit of Democrat over-sampling, from what I can see). But Trump’s ceiling was while 20-25% of GOPers were still not coming his way…now there are some indicators he’s heading towards 90% (I expect he’ll peak between 92-95%), and so his ceiling will rise accordingly; meanwhile, Hillary’s troubles are causing some Democrats who had been backing her post-Convention to rethink their views. The joker in the deck is the rare/non-voter category…how many are there? How many will show up? How will they break between Trump and Hillary?

      • Amazona September 7, 2016 / 9:07 am

        Here’s a clue as to how things may change—Mark Levin now says he will be voting for Trump.

      • M. Noonan September 7, 2016 / 12:31 pm

        Saw a poll this morning showing Hillary under 50% and only leading by 4 in New Jersey. Obama won the State with 58% of the vote in 2012, just under 18 points ahead of Romney.

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