Open Thread

The Russian Collusion story seems to have wound up here:

Sources with knowledge of the ads tell CNN that they ranged from posts promoting gun rights and the Second Amendment to posts warning about what they said was the threat undocumented immigrants posed to American democracy.

Some ads promoted Black Lives Matter while others decried it, as the Washington Post reported Monday.

The apparent goal of the ads, the sources who spoke with CNN said, was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos around the 2016 presidential campaign, not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another.

So, what we’ve got here is a foreign power seeking to sow division in the United States. Pardon me while I get my shocked face on. We all know that the whole Trump/Russia thing was bogus from start to finish – ginned up post-election likely to cover up the Obama Administration’s spying on Team Trump during the campaign.

The Democrats and the MSM (but I repeat myself) are still trying to gin up the hurricane damage in Puerto Rico as Trump’s Katrina – but, it won’t work. There is simply too much federal aid flowing to Puerto Rico.

Some reporting on the Equifax hack. My view: credit reports should be banned. To concentrate that much personal information in one place invites hacking. Using a person’s social security number as their main identifier is not just a security risk, it is a very stupid security risk. Ban them. Let banks actually get back to underwriting their loans. In 2017, just assume that everyone who wants your personal financial information has it – and just carefully monitor your credit activity for anything suspicious.

The Pen and Phone cuts both ways: Trump to issue executive order allowing insurance sales across State lines.

Steelers owner says he’s trying to stay out of politics. Too late. You had your chance when the first player knelt: you could have suspended or fired that guy and thus put the word out that politics has no place in Football. You tolerated it, and how it has blown up in your face. As an aside: I think our Progressives were expecting Trump to lose this fight because of a theory that we hick morons would choose Football over country. They really don’t understand us, at all.

19 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona September 29, 2017 / 12:14 am

    I don’t know if this is legitimate or not. I’ve seen quotes from this interview over the years but have never followed up to see if it really happened, or if Bezmenov was really a Soviet defector talking about Russian tactics to subvert and destabilize the United States. Maybe someone else knows about this. I offer it because no matter what the origin, these are tactics we are seeing today, and they are very similar to what we are seeing in the quoted story

    This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It’s shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps.

    Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: Our conversation is with Mr. Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov. Mr. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite schools inside the Soviet Union and became an expert in Indian culture and Indian languages. He had an outstanding career with Novesti, which was the, and still is, I should say, the Press arm or the press agency of the Soviet Union. It turns out that this is a front for the KGB. He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet System.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    …..the useful idiots, the Leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet socialist or Communist or whatever system when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That’s why my KGB instructors specifically made a point, never bother with Leftists. Forget about these political prostitutes. Aim higher. This was my instruction. Try to get into wide circulation, established conservative media. Reach the filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals, so-called academic circles, cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with an angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruit-able people. People who lack moral principles who are either too greedy or to suffer from self-importance, they feel that they matter a lot. These are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.

    Interviewer, G. Edward Griffin: To eliminate the others, to execute the others, don’t they serve some purpose? Wouldn’t they be the ones to rely on?

    Yuri Bezmenov: They serve purpose only at the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your Leftists in the United States, all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defender, they are instrumental in the process of subversion, only to destabilize the nation. When the job is completed, they are none, they are not needed any more…

    • Retired Spook September 29, 2017 / 9:38 am

      During a senior cryptologic officer symposium at NSA/Fort Meade in either 1988 or ’89 our group watched the entire interview.

      Here’s the short version:

      G. Edward Griffin is currently involved with James Jaeger in producing a 4 part series entitled MAINSTREAM — How Hollywood Movies and the New York Media Are Promoting the Globalist Agenda. The first 3 parts are finished and available here.

    • Cluster September 29, 2017 / 10:55 am

      What an incredibly interesting interview, thanks for posting this. A thriving democracy requires an informed, educated, and armed populace and I will gladly pay the ultimate price to thwart the subversion from the left, which is maybe more entrenched than any of us thought.

    • Amazona September 29, 2017 / 11:24 am

      Reach the filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals, so-called academic circles, cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with an angelic expression and tell you a lie. These are the most recruit-able people. People who lack moral principles who are either too greedy or to suffer from self-importance, they feel that they matter a lot. These are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.

      They don’t need to recruit these types as active spies as long as they can get them to lend their faces, voices and fame to the cause. Think of Jane Fonda in Hanoi.

      BTW, did you know that Steven Segal is a Russian citizen? He recently spoke out against the “take a knee” movement but still, he left this country.

  2. Cluster September 29, 2017 / 10:57 am

    Isn’t universal healthcare awesome!!! Well except for the doctors:

    “When you leave Cuba for the first time, you discover many things that you had been blind to,” said Yaili Jiménez Gutierrez, one of the doctors who filed suit. “There comes a time when you get tired of being a slave.”

    • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 12:46 pm

      Someone needs to call Yaili Jiménez Gutierrez out for the unforgivable sin of cultural appropriation. Everyone knows that only black people have ever been slaves, and that only white supremacists have ever enslaved anyone.

      Just as everyone knows that a red baseball cap is capable of genocide and that impeachment means elevating the loser in an election to the presidency.

      Someone needs to get Colin in, with his Castro T shirt, to educate this woman, not only about the exclusive ownership of the concept of slavery by black Americans but about the all-over wonderfulness of Castro governance.

  3. Cluster September 29, 2017 / 4:11 pm

    This needs to be said about Puerto Rico vis a vis Government. Here is a vulnerable island that sits in the middle of the paths of hurricanes and tropical storms, and has been hit many times, most recently in 2014 with Bertha, and the last most devastating one was Hugo in ’89. So at the very least the island has had 30 years to plan and prepare for the next one, which is inevitable. What did the government do?? Apparently nothing. And that’s government in action. And oh by the way, for a country that is a tropical island with gorgeous beaches, beautiful weather, timber and other resources …… they are broke. Again, thanks to government.

  4. Amazona September 29, 2017 / 9:29 pm

    You know all those claims that the “take a knee” movement is about solidarity, about unity and not divisiveness? Ask Derek Carr if he agrees.

    A new report from The Armstrong and Getty Radio Show has sent shockwaves throughout the sports world after it was revealed that members of the NFL’s Oakland Raiders may have purposefully allowed their star quarterback to get sacked multiple times after he refused to kneel during the National Anthem.

    If true, this would essentially mean that an NFL football game was illegally thrown over anger that one of the teams star white players did not believe that kneeling during the nations anthem was the correct way to protest supposed racial injustice in America.

    In other words, an epic level scandal.

    During the anthem, virtually the entire team was seen kneeling other than the teams coaches and star quarterback Derek Carr. Unfortunately, this may have not set well with the teams offensive line as they were apparently the players who spearheaded the entire idea to kneel as a team in the first.

    “This is one hell of a scandal with the NFL, could ruin the whole league,” claimed the show before detailing the fact that Carr was sacked two times in a row on the teams second drive and that the teams usually dependable center snapped the ball at the wrong time in three different instances. Extremely capable receivers also made multiple “weird” drops of passes thrown by Carr that T.V. announcers even noted at the time.

    The radio show then revealed bombshell “insider information” from an “extremely reliable” source who claimed that members of the Oakland Raiders did indeed throw the game as a sort of punishment for Carr choosing to not use the countries anthem to make a leftist political statement.
    “He wants to stand alone, he can stand alone on the field,” one of the teams offensive lineman said, according to the shows source. Keep in mind, the offensive line are literally the guys whose job it is to protect the quarterback, in this case the white player who didn’t kneel.

    Amazingly, the circumstantial (and possible direct) proof didn’t end there as the show then claimed that this same source also revealed that a local team reporter got wind of the story and asked a team official for comment. What he was apparently told in response has all the hallmarks of a team trying to cover up a major scandal.

    “If you report on this, you will be blackballed, you will not get access to the Raiders period,” the reporter was supposedly told. “Your career covering the team will be over”.

    While there are obviously major legal and ethical issues if this is true, it also paints a sad picture of a football league divided by a political and media establishment all too happy to cause as much racial divide in the country as possible. For as long as Americans focus on differences between each other, the global elites power remains completely unthreatened.

    If this is true, the team should automatically forfeit every remaining game of the season and every player who participated should be fired or at the very least fined what amounts to about 80% of the year’s salary. Personally, I would fire them all and have tryouts for next year’s team, if there even IS a team next year. Think Las Vegas wants a bunch of vicious crybabies willing to have a player hurt and the team damaged because their petty little racist feelings are hurt?

    This whole “taking a knee” fiasco is nothing more than an official affirmation of victimhood. Nothing is anyone’s fault—blame the United States for everything these losers don’t like. That is why it has such appeal to the Left, which depends on victimhood to stir up its divisiveness and recruit people who refuse to take any personal responsibility for their lives.

    • Cluster September 30, 2017 / 8:30 am

      That’s a hell of a story if it’s true. Wow. I saw that an NFL boycott campaign is being spread around social media to boycott the NFL on Veterans Day Weekend in early November. No one go to the games or watch on TV. I plan to participate.

      Tom Price out as Health Sec. I like seeing accountability at the Federal level.

      • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 11:46 am

        Cluster, I think there are too many who are too selfish, too addicted to football, to stand for anything else. I heard a radio caller yesterday brag that he is treating these morons like he would treat any child throwing a temper tantrum—that is, just ignoring them. And he is wearing his jerseys and buying his tickets and going right on throwing money and adulation at them, which is not my definition of “ignoring” but that is typical of the sports whores who can’t or won’t see past what makes them feel good.

        If you can’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.

      • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 11:49 am

        I’m still not convinced that Price did anything wrong. I have read reports on why he took the private flights he took, and they all seem justified. I think he just jumped in with both feet and went to work, going wherever he had to go to learn what he had to learn and start doing what he had to do, and became too easy a target for the Leftist jackals.

        Now they know how easy it will be to undermine Trump’s cabinet.

        Remember, now that they have gotten rid of Price on this private flight theme, they are already going after the cost of Trump’s “vacation” at his own resort. The costs are for security, for the most part. Yet not a peep from the Complicit Agenda Media about the multi-million dollar “date” of Barry and Michelle when he had the whole security apparatus, including limo, flown to New York for one night so they could go out on the town.

        When will we learn to just tell these people to go pound sand and go about our business?

      • Cluster September 30, 2017 / 12:47 pm

        I think Price is out because of his failure on health care. The private plane issue was just the straw that broke the back, but it’s the health care issue that cost him his job, as it should. I think he was too weak to get it done.

      • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 1:03 pm

        I’m not sure what stroke Price had, or should have had, in convincing Congress to pass a bill. I’m not sure what role he was supposed to play in getting this legislation done. He was not even part of the Legislative branch of government, and I thought his role was separate from that.

      • Cluster September 30, 2017 / 1:11 pm

        Well I was under the impression that Price was tabbed for the HHS job because he was a doctor and had floated some alternative plans to Obamacare while in Congress which were fairly well received, but nothing got done. In his role as HHS he should have guided and prodded along the feckless GOP to craft some sensible repeal plan maybe based on what he had proposed earlier. As it is, I see Price now as just another member of the inept GOP so good riddance.

      • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 1:47 pm

        I don’t see that Price had much to do with what Congress did or didn’t do and I for one am tired of letting the mobs run people off. I never heard anything about him doing a bad job, just the savagery of the attacks on his travels.

        We don’t know what parts of the plans he had proposed were included in the GOP discussions, but I got the impression that basically nothing that wasn’t just Obamacare II would have passed with Snow and McCain et al holding the deciding votes.

        I think we are back to talking about cannibalizing our own party, and letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Congress is to blame for the failure of health care insurance reform, and if we want to spread the blame out a little then Trump is next in line. He is the one whose job it is to work with Congress, not his cabinet. As far as I am concerned, if Price was doing a decent job he should have flipped off the media and stuck around, and Trump should have backed him. Trump will never have a strong team if he has no loyalty.

    • Amazona September 30, 2017 / 11:44 am

      Cluster, if this story is true it could mean the end of professional football as we know it. If, for example, management had the backbone to fire every player who participated, I am sure all the other black players would go on strike as a show of “solidarity”. Any black player with integrity and a brain, who could see through the falseness of the entire “take a knee” narrative, who wanted to simply play the game, would be ostracized and probably threatened. Then what? Segregated teams? An all-white team and an all-black team? I can imagine what those games would look like.

      No, the self-destructive mentality of those too brain-dead, too dependent on malignant narratives and whiny victimization, have not been able to look ahead to see the outcomes of their stupidity.

      I am just surprised that no one has pointed out the irrelevancy of the “protests” in the first place. Disrespecting the anthem, by extension the flag, by extension the country, to protest things that are not the fault of the country is so profoundly stupid I am amazed that no one has talked about it. It’s like boycotting hockey in a protest against high drug prices, or having a picket line in front of a supermarket to protest human trafficking. I am sure that if either of these equally irrelevant protests were to be mounted, it would come to light that the protesters really just had deep hatred for hockey, or supermarkets, and the alleged high-minded “protests” served only to attack what was already hated.

      I now wonder how many of the white players who kneel in “solidarity” with their teammates do so because of fear of what might happen to them on the field if they don’t. Either that or they are just virtue signaling, too, showing off how enlightened they are.

      I don’t follow football in general well enough to know who engaged in that moronic “hands up don’t shoot” charade a few years ago—which was, by the way, a harbinger of what we are seeing now, as management rolled over and showed their bellies to the thuggery of the racist Left—–but if I did know their names I know I would never see any of them without a feeling of disgust. This is how I feel about every single football player engaging in the melodrama today. I simply have no interest in watching any of them play or in supporting their team—and by extension, their paychecks. Let them find another country in which they can make millions of dollars and be treated like royalty if they think this one is so terrible.

  5. Amazona September 30, 2017 / 12:40 pm

    More “waahhh waahhh waahhh” from some mommies. At least someone still thinks the NFL crybabies are special.

    “It saddens the [Professional Football Players Mothers Association] to know that President Donald Trump would make our sons — as well as their mothers — the target of inflammatory, offensive comments that are intended to promote anger and hatred, depleting them of their heritage and self-identity.”

    Think about this. According to the mommies, now the comment of President Trump about how he thinks football league owners should react to the actions of some players is, really, also making THEM—the mommies—“targets of offensive comments”. Yeah, mommies, it’s all about YOU!

    Well, to some extent that could be. It may be that some people have commented on how some mommies bring up their babies with such utter conviction that they are special that they feel entitled to act out however they please, wherever they please. I could see that happening. I haven’t heard of it happening, but evidently these mommies realize that it could. Good for them. Some self-awareness at last.

    But mostly just trying to get their share of the Poor Me Kool-aid, elbowing their way into the victimhood circle.

    Of course, it still wouldn’t be their fault. Nothing ever is.

    But what cracked me up is “…depleting them of their heritage and self-identity….”

    Here’s an idea. Let’s take up a collection to send dictionaries to outraged black women, so they can at least use the language properly.

    (1) They mean “depriving”. Duh.
    (2) They admit that in their minds acting out, being victims and blaming everyone else for anything they don’t like is actually part of their “heritage”.
    (3) They admit that their precious babies’ “self-identity” is tied in with acting out and posturing in vain and self-destructive attention-seeking acts of virtue signaling.

    Back to that dictionary thing—-it came to mind when I read the article about the black woman stealing the MAGA cap from someone and then squealing over and over again that the cap is “genocide”.

    If I were black I would be cringing in humiliation as my fellow black people engage in orgies of public “LOOK HOW STUPID I AM” hissy fits.

  6. Amazona September 30, 2017 / 12:59 pm

    I have written about this happening in Colorado—not about people asking to be removed from voter registration rolls because they are not citizens, but about DMV personnel asking people if they want to register to vote even after discussions of how licenses are issued only for the terms of work permits for non-citizens. (emphasis mine)

    According to a Philadelphia elections official, hundreds of individuals who are not U.S. citizens have registered to vote in Philadelphia and nearly half of them voted in past elections. Since 2006, 317 registered voters have contacted the City Commissioners, which oversees Philadelphia elections, asking that their registrations be canceled because they are not citizens. reported that many of them registered while either applying for or renewing their driver’s licenses. All applicants were offered the option to register to vote even after providing documentation to DMV officials that although they were in the country legally, they were not citizens.

    Al Schmidt, the lone Republican on the Philadelphia election commission, said that all 317 registrations have been canceled and he has been speaking with the Pennsylvania Department of State about the problem.

    “For the majority of these people, it’s completely plausible to believe they thought they were eligible to vote,” Schmidt claimed, despite the fact that voter registration applications require an applicant to answer a citizenship question and to swear under oath that he is a U.S. citizen.

    I take issue with the last paragraph, as when someone is offered registration at the DMV no such application is required. The information given to get the drivers license is merely entered into a voter registration record by the DMV official.

    When I witnessed this happening, the several times I helped foreign workers navigate the DMV and explained to officials how these people could get licenses only for the duration of their work permits, a process that required not only producing the work permits but using their country’s passports to prove ID, the young people I was helping usually told the DMV official that he or she couldn’t vote—if he or she didn’t, I did—-and the response was always the same. “We are required by law to offer voter registration to every person who gets a license.”

    This is why I think we should get rid of Motor Voter. It is, and always has been, merely a mechanism to register ineligible people to vote. And when these foreign workers go home, their registrations remain intact, providing a rich source of voter registrations for people who want to commit voter fraud.

    Many ski resorts, for example, make a point of employing young foreigners to work in their lodges, restaurants, etc. on temporary work visas. Sun Valley is famous for this. Any Leftist activist in any such resort area only has to keep track of the names of foreign workers who also have drivers licenses to have a list of names that can be used to vote in any area that does not require a photo ID.

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