Open Thread

Marcy Miller, a Twitter friend of mine, keeps up on Arizona history:

By five a.m. on a cold November 2, 1889, Gila County Sheriff Glenn Reynolds and his deputy, William A. Holmes, had barely begun the second day of their long trek from Globe to the Yuma Territorial Prison with nine prisoners. Eight of the convicts were Apaches – one of them the infamous Apache Kid, another Pash-Tan-Tah – and the remaining prisoner a Mexican man named Jesus Avott. The prisoners rode in a stagecoach driven by its owner, Eugene Middleton. Next to Middleton sat Deputy Holmes, riding shotgun, while Sheriff Reynolds accompanied them on horseback…

Read the whole thing. Interesting slice of old west history.

So, they voted to Release The Memo – we’ll see if Trump approves it. I bet he will – but even if he doesn’t, I understand the House can still release it. At any rate, things are rapidly heating up on this front. From what I’ve read, it seems pretty clear to me that the Obama Administration cooked up a reason to spy on the Trump Campaign in order to aid Hillary’s quest for the White House and when Trump wound up winning, they switched it over to a story about Trump colluding with Russia to win the election. We’re all used to Democrats getting away with stuff like this – but this is really big. Like, Watergate was nothing compared to it big. We’ll see how it comes out.

Google has a new camera that will neatly keep track of your every move. I really don’t understand why anyone buys these things. Look, I like being connected, too…but we’re already in enough databases: why give people permission to essentially spy on you 24/7? Want to know what really set me off on how bad things are getting? Some months back the Mrs and I were walking through a store and I mentioned that we needed to buy more treats for the dog…almost instantly, an ad for dog treats at that store popped up in my Facebook timeline. The fricking thing was listening to me and matched what I said to where I was! I don’t like that, at all. I’ve taken to occasionally entirely shutting off my phone so that there is at least some blocks of time no one knows where I am. But, you just watch: eventually not having your phone on and with you will be seen as evidence against you. 1984 turned out to be an instruction manual.

A possibly intoxicated Gam Gam was last seen reading passages from a pack of lies at the Grammy’s. For some odd reason, this resulted in very low TV ratings for the Grammy Awards. Go figure.

MSMer, in the spirit of 1984, throws the actual news coverage of the 2016 into the Memory Hole and announces that the MSM was too tough on Hillary.

Allahpundit, who really has been allowing his disdain for Trump to get the better of him, wants Trump to jettison the televised State of the Union. I don’t see any reason for this – other than a fierce desire on the part of some to deny Trump a widely-watched, national platform. Heck with that – just having him up there giving the speech will bug our Progressive friends…and that is always a worthy object.

Donald Surber points out that some people coming to ardently support the Wall are illegal immigrants…specifically those who would benefit from the codification of DACA. When you think about it, it makes sense: Democrats might want the DACA people stuck in legal limbo in order to wring whatever political advantage they can out of it…but the actual, flesh and blood human beings involved probably just want to get themselves to legal status so they don’t have to worry about it any more. This is a very illustrative thing: Democrats don’t actually give a darn about anyone. It is perfectly ok, in their minds, if people suffer if they think that suffering can get them power and wealth. The thing for the GOP to do is to figure out a way to explain this – not just to DACA types, but all the various social groups the Democrats keep poor and hopeless. We want them to rise and live their lives in independent dignity…Democrats just want them poor and hopeless because that way they may be suckered into voting Democrat.

65 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster February 2, 2018 / 5:17 pm

    From MSNBC just now:

    – Trump’s national security advisor WAS a Russian spy.
    – The memo is nothing more than Trump’s enemies list
    – And from Nicole Wallace – “…regardless of what Trump did in that Russian hotel room” alluding to the false golden showers accusation.

    They have no way out.

  2. Cluster February 2, 2018 / 5:28 pm

    I think it’s important to reflect back and thank GOD John McCain lost his bid for POTUS. Consider that current MSNBC stars Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace were his main advisors. Think about that.

    • jdge1 February 2, 2018 / 9:02 pm

      While there’s a lot to be thankful for that McCain didn’t win, I believe he still would have been a better choice than Obama. However, if McCain won, that win would likely have placed many future wins for the Republicans at peril.

      • Cluster February 3, 2018 / 9:04 am

        Exactly. Carter led to Reagan, and Obama led to Trump.

    • Amazona February 3, 2018 / 11:15 am

      This article doesn’t even mention Gorelick’s role in creating a “wall” dividing all intelligence agencies, a barrier none were allowed to bypass, forbidding any exchange of any intelligence gathered. This was done because the Clintons were getting nervous about their illegal foreign (mostly Chinese) campaign contributions coming to light. The FBI had its domestic informants, the CIA had its foreign sources of information, and the fear of them getting together and comparing notes impelled drastic action. Gorelick was the problem-solver, inventing a “wall” to block any such information-sharing.

      Of course, after 9/11 it came out that these two agencies had separate information on the hijackers and others involved in the attack, information that could not be collated between them to form a coherent picture of what was going on. By that time Gorelick was making big bucks at Fannie Mae, a nice reward for her service.

      And of course then along came Ivanka and Jared, who hired her as their counsel, and it was Gorelick who talked to the press about that meeting. That has to go down as either the single stupidest thing anyone has ever done or the most conniving.

  3. Cluster February 3, 2018 / 11:01 am

    It is just mind numbing that progressive pundits insist that Trump is an “autocrat” or “dictator” following 8 years of their boy wonder circumventing Congress at every opportunity. Not once did Obama lobby for, or court GOP buy in on his legislative agenda, whereas Trump has not only nullified many of Obama’s executive orders, but is also forcing Congress to deliberate and resolve the issues of immigration, tax reform, infrastructure, etc……

    It really shows the level of stupidity amongst the pundit class

    Donny Deutsch said on MSNBC Friday that Donald Trump is a “dictator” and that “people need to start taking to the streets.”

    I will say this Donny, you name the time and place and I will be there.

    • Retired Spook February 3, 2018 / 11:17 am

      I will say this Donny, you name the time and place and I will be there.

      You and me and millions of others. Be VERY careful what you wish for, Donnie.

      • Amazona February 3, 2018 / 12:07 pm

        These people are running so close to the edge of breaking the law, I am just waiting for them to cross the line. Rosie offers to bribe Congress. Donny skirts the boundary of calling for overthrowing the government—along with several other equally unhinged radicals. (Of course he would back off and say he only meant “take to the streets wearing vagina costumes and waving misspelled signs”, nothing sinister at all here.)

        The thing is, it is this “taking to the streets” by the radicals that is pushing rational people to the Right. The more they strut around dressed as genitals, poop on police cars, riot and loot and burn buildings in the name of “protests”, the more they screech vulgarity into microphones, the more they struggle to convince people that Trump said what everyone can tell he never said, the more they demand safe spaces for whimpering 20-year-old “children” while openly admitting to a desire to end free speech, the more they illustrate the sanity and reasonableness of the Right.

        People are not as stupid as the Left thinks they are and needs them to be. Not a lot of people are going to be watching the Super Bowl, eating nachos and hamburgers and seeing that PETA ad, without being aware of how many shelter animals could have been rescued with that $5 million wasted on posturing—-or that the NFL refused to show an ad by veterans asking for respect for the flag.

        The more they “take to the streets” the better. Because we know that whiny effete Liberals playing “Hey, YOU ought to get out there and get your head cracked” are not going to generate anything to be feared. Look at who watches Donny and tell me if they seem dangerous to you. LGTBXYZ mobs might screech “we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it” but aside from flashing a lot of ugly butt cheeks I don’t see them posing much of a danger.

        This is just Donny doing what he thinks will make him look more butch. His chosen name is DONNY! Not Don, not Donald, but DONNY! How many badasses are going to rally around a guy named DONNY ?

  4. Amazona February 3, 2018 / 12:24 pm

    Who’s nervous about the contents of the memo?

    John McCain seems to be—either that or he’s so stuck on the fantasy that hollering “RUSSIANS !” every few minutes will make him look like a leader.

    “The latest attacks against the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests ― no party’s, no president’s — only Putin’s,” said McCain, HuffPost reported Friday

    He just spouts the Dem party line, that these are “attacks” AGAINST the FBI and DOJ. At least brain cancer gives him kind of an excuse, but still…..he’s one of the GOP’s biggest mistakes. Anyone who puts a minute or two of thought into this would realize that shutting down the ability to use Russian “intelligence” to spy on American politicians would hinder Putin, not help him.

    And look who thinks an investigator ought to be fired. Not Mueller—no, firing him would tantamount to admitting guilt, would be obstructing justice, should be a capital offense and for sure cause for impeachment. It doesn’t matter that Mueller is investigating something that is not even a crime, or that he is just fishing around looking for something to show for the millions being dumped into this charade.

    No, the guy putting together the list of evidence of Dem wrongdoing should be fired, shut up, shut down and run out of town immediately. Anything that proves actual criminality in the Obama administration must be halted, and anyone with evidence must be silenced.

    On Thursday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi sent a letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan claiming “Nunes’ deliberately dishonest actions make him unfit to serve as chairman” and demanded that he be “removed immediately from his position.”

    McCain on Memo: Serves ‘No American Interests,’ ‘Only Putin’s’ |

    • Cluster February 3, 2018 / 12:54 pm

      I agree. McCain epitomizes what is wrong with the GOP and our entire government for that matter. What makes an 82 year old think they are indispensable and need to serve another 6 years in the Senate? McCain is a hell of a lot more concerned with his own power and prestige than he is with any of his responsibilities to see that the government works for the people, and not the powerful. Keep in mind, McCain hired people like Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace to advise him ……

      It’s been a long time since our interests have been represented in Washington, and thanks to Trump, the conservative agenda is flourishing once again.

  5. Retired Spook February 3, 2018 / 2:19 pm

    Looks like the memo is just the tip of the iceberg:

    • Amazona February 3, 2018 / 5:02 pm

      And don’t forget, Schumer threatened Trump with the entire US intelligence service when he reminded Trump these guys could make his life a living hell. Lefties are so used to having cover from an administration when they try to bully and browbeat and intimidate people, they aren’t quite used to the fact that they will be held to a different standard now.

      And these threats, by the way, come from the same side of the aisle that is throwing screaming wall kicking hissy fits because Trump asked some guy who he voted for.

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