Sunday Open Thread – EXONERATION!

Friday’s indictment of 13 Russians by the FBI was also an indictment on this entire fabricated collusion issue as well as a complete exoneration of President Trump and his administration. That certainly had to be an embarrassing announcement by a once venerated institution, which came on the same day it was revealed that the FBI had completely dropped the ball in the Florida school shooting. Maybe it is time to question the integrity of the “rank and file” of the FBI who the complicit agenda media has held up to such a high standard. It’s a little more than ironic that the progressive media is more than willing to question the integrity of policeman as they patrol inner city neighborhoods, but somehow the men and women of the FBI are beyond reproach? I don’t think so, and that kind of logic just exposes an agenda driven narrative. Of course that’s the only narrative the Democrats have anymore.

So what does the progressive media and the Democrats do now that their year long talking points have imploded? Why they double down on it, like Rep Jerry Nadler did yesterday:

“My reaction to the news is this is absolute proof of what we knew all along and what the president has denied, namely that we were attacked. This is a very serious attack against the United States by a hostile foreign power, an attack against our election process, our entire governing process. We know that the attack is continuing. And that our intelligence agencies tell us that it’s going to certainly continue through the next election. And the president and the Republicans in the House for that matter refuse, refuse to do anything about protecting us from an attack. Imagine if FDR had denied that the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor and didn’t react. That’s the equivalent.”

So 13 Russians creating fake Facebook accounts and trying to sow discord in our society is tantamount to Pearl Harbor? Is that where they are going with this? And isn’t this exactly what all progressive groups do daily? Try and sow national discord? Yes, it is, or do some people actually think that Antifa and Black Lives Matter are unifying groups. The entire Russia collusion narrative was a fabricated issue designed to cover the tracks of the unethical, and illegal activities of the Hillary Clinton campaign, which was also aided and abetted by the Obama DOJ and FBI. We also know now that the Christopher Steele did leak information to the media, who were more than willing to run with the story, and whose stories were used for corroboration of the dossier with the FISA courts, so the question now is, who in the media knew what, and when did they know it?

The next few years are going to be really interesting to see how the Democrats recover from trying to undermine our election process. Do they follow the lead of one of their more sane colleagues Joe Manchin? Or do they continue to pander to the far left extremists and follow the lead of Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff? I think we all know the answer to that.

On another note, has everyone been watching the Waco series? Very well done. The acting is superb and the storyline, if accurate, is disturbing. I understand the alleged crimes of polygamy, age of consent, and illegal weapons but did that really require the use of force by the ATF? David Koresh could have easily been apprehended on the many occasions that he went into town, or was on his morning jog, but the Clinton Admin. DOJ, led by Janet Reno thought otherwise and the result was horrific. Waco is a reminder of just how authoritarian leftists are, and why the second amendment is more important today than ever before. When any government tries to tell you that you don’t need guns – you definitely need guns.


33 thoughts on “Sunday Open Thread – EXONERATION!

  1. Retired Spook February 18, 2018 / 12:31 pm

    Jerry Nadler is a completely unhinged Leftist, but it does beg the question about the character of the people who have elected him 11 times. You do have to wonder what those people are going to do when we start shooting at each other. Perhaps Jerry can protect them.

    • Cluster February 18, 2018 / 12:52 pm

      Few Democrats are not unhinged leftists anymore and it’s easy to be reelected in districts where lies and character assassinations against whatever opposition exists go unchallenged. My hope is that Trump has instilled some courage in the GOP body politic, and that our reps will come out swinging this Fall.

    • Amazona February 18, 2018 / 1:11 pm

      To some extent, I agree that we were, as a nation, attacked. The Russian government tried to destabilize the United States by sowing discord, distrust, resentment and hatred. Their goal was not necessarily to get any one person or party elected, but to turn people from each party against the other, while at the same time feeding the various black victimhood memes, the black violence movements, the various gender-based resentment movements and so on.

      They are in a position to do this. They have controlled education long enough to have two or three generations of mis-educated people who know nothing about the sordid history of the Left, they control enough of the various media to be sure no contradictory message will have much of a platform and their propaganda will now be willingly promoted by their Compliict Agenda Media, and they are now making their move.

      President Trump denied being part of a Russian effort to help him win the presidency, and he denied that Russia was able to directly affect the vote by changing votes in our voting machines. I don’t think he has addressed the bigger picture of them just working to generate confusion and conflict and distrust in the government.

      • Cluster February 18, 2018 / 1:24 pm

        Oh I agree with that, but let’s not make it an exclusive Russia problem. I believe China also has played, and does play a role, as does Mexico and probably to some extent Iran, North Korea, etc., but I think the primary culprits are domestic – Antifa & BLM to name two.

        If we want to put down efforts to sow discord and divide the country, we need to start with identity politics and the Democrat party. Just my opinion.

      • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 10:13 am

        Well, we have La Raza, the utterly stupid movement based on “cultural appropriation” (which does not apply to Elizabeth Warren) the gun control rallies and hysteria and the various student silliness around the country, all part of this whole “divide and conquer” strategy.

  2. Cluster February 18, 2018 / 1:06 pm

    You know, since the topic of foreign intervention in elections has been brought up, maybe the FBI ought to look at some other countries involvement:

    Organized groups of foreign nationals were actively colluding at the highest levels with the DNC, the Hillary Clinton campaign, and quite possibly the Obama White House.

    What do the Democrats call this ???? Oh yea, a “danger to our democracy”

  3. Ryan Murphy February 18, 2018 / 9:38 pm

    Groups of which at least a large portion of which are foreign nationals, being aided organizationally and monetarily by Americans including American politicians in order to influence elections. Sounds like Democrats with various illegal alien rallies, events and groups.

  4. Cluster February 19, 2018 / 8:57 am

    Hard to believe this law didn’t stop school shootings:

    “Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990,” originally passed as part of the Budget Control Act of 1990, bars school personnel from arming themselves. 18 U.S.C. § 922(q)(2)(A)

    “It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.”

    But in this case, it may have actually cost lives. So what’s the Democrats new plan? Pass More Laws!!!

    • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 1:31 pm

      I don’t understand the law. What does “interstate or foreign commerce” have to do with a general no-guns zone in and around schools? That a gun has “moved in” interstate commerce by being made in one state and bought in another? That it was made in Italy or Germany and is owned in Florida so it “moved in” foreign commerce? If that is the case, it should be revealed for what it evidently is, a way to ban guns without appearing to ban guns, and dealt with. Why doesn’t it just say “no guns in school zones”?

      On the other hand, it appears to say that if a gun is made in Florida and bought in Florida and carried in Florida it can be taken onto school grounds.

  5. Amazona February 19, 2018 / 1:26 pm

    I see that NBC has formally aligned itself with the anti-Trump agenda by hiring the mediocre skater whose only claim to fame is his wholly dishonest portrayal of Vice President Pence. At least NBC is no longer posturing as an objective news source, but has staked out a position.

  6. Retired Spook February 19, 2018 / 2:00 pm

    As you all know, I was an early advocate of using ridicule, straight out of the Left’s handbook, Rules for Radicals against them. No one does it better than Kurt Schlichter.

  7. Retired Spook February 19, 2018 / 3:20 pm

    It’s getting easier and easier to be a conspiracy theorist. A caller to Rush suggested that the teenage survivors of the Parkland shooting had to have had some help to organize a march on Washington as well as other cities around the country on March 24th. The caller asked how kids, most of whom are too young to vote, could have organized national marches for gun control in 5 days since the shooting by themselves. She posed the idea that they had to have some help from “community organizers.” It further begs the question, given the fact that the FBI knew about this kid; was this allowed to happen to create a crisis that couldn’t go to waste? I’m not saying that’s what happened, but I no longer blow off the possibility like I might have a few years ago.

    • Cluster February 19, 2018 / 3:59 pm

      I am convinced that the October Las Vegas shooting was organized by the anti gun lobby.

    • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 4:28 pm

      I think it’s obvious that the “no crisis should be allowed to go to waste” crowd jumped on this shooting as a chance to promote their cause. Actually, to take the conspiracy thing a step farther, I don’t think it is the cause itself that the organizers care about, but the chance to create more divisiveness in the country. I don’t know if the FBI allowed it to happen to promote this kind of reaction, as they had to know they would have egg on their faces when it came out that they had dropped the ball (I should start counting my metaphors and cliches….) and they are already dealing with a lot of criticism for their other shortcomings. I’m tending to look at the FBI role as simple incompetence, and/or laziness. But the national organization of the same kinds of protests and marches the Left is know for definitely shows skilled coordination.

      A few years ago I called the FBI to report a situation I thought might be dangerous, and the person who answered the phone just blew me off, was so dismissive and condescending it was clear his role was that of gatekeeper to get rid of people. He didn’t ask a single question, just cut me off and said “it” was nothing.

      A former FBI agent told me the FBI is mandated to investigate any claim of a violation of civil rights if reported to them by a member of Congress. I know of such a case, when a Senator asked them to look into a well-documented case, and they refused to even ask a single question, much less look at the episode or the documentation. They just didn’t care and refused to take even a single step toward investigation.

      I think the agency is bloated and demoralized and has a lot of Civil Service types who should be ignoring customers at the local DMV or post office.

      I once had a doctor tell me that there are two statements that will get a patient rushed to the head of the line in an ER: “I am having chest pains” and (from a pregnant woman) “I think the head is coming out”. I would think the FBI would have a similar hierarchy of red flags that would never be ignored, and “school shooter” would be right up there at the top. Evidently not.

      • Cluster February 19, 2018 / 4:49 pm

        That’s an inexcusable HUGE miss by the FBI, and with Las Vegas, Sandy Hook, and Pulse Nightclub still very fresh memories, it is beyond belief that this “red flag” was ignored. BEYOND BELIEF. I believe that the FBI leadership is so politicized that they have forgotten their basic mission and that attitude now has permeated the agency.

        (As an aside, I am little afraid to be writing now knowing that Amazona has her teachers cap on – lol)

      • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 5:44 pm

        I always wear my teacher’s cap, sometimes unkindly referred to as my Grammar Nazi cap. Blame the nuns who hammered grammar rules into us for at least an hour a day. BTW, they also taught me the value of a rap across the knuckles with a ruler, so shape up!

    • jdge1 February 19, 2018 / 7:10 pm

      Another rendition of “Fast & Furious”?

  8. Amazona February 19, 2018 / 4:06 pm

    This is an interesting article that explains a lot about why some people have such narrow views of what is going on. (emphasis mine)

    The filter bubble, otherwise known as an online or information bubble is “a situation in which an Internet user encounters only information and opinions that conform to and reinforce their own beliefs, caused by algorithms that personalize an individual’s online experience.” In a nutshell, what you like and are searching for online is what you’re going to keep seeing.

    ……you and every member of your family can be biased because of the strict personalization of your filter bubble. In other words, the customization of the web could increasingly isolate each user into their own filter bubbles.

    Eli Pariser, the founder of Upworthy, published his New York Times bestseller The Filter Bubble: What the Internet is Hiding From You. The book laid out how one’s personalized online algorithms were insulating the user from opposing views, predicting how echo chambers could leave consumers sheltered from different opinions.

    “The danger of these filters is that you think you are getting a representative view of the world and you are really not, and you don’t know it,” Eli explains. “Some of these problems that our fellow citizens are having kind of disappear from view without even realizing it.”

    When students were told how their news feed was manipulated based on personal taste, many were genuinely surprised and showed a student’s lack of awareness of personalization.

    • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 4:14 pm

      As far as the mangling of the English language in this excerpt, I may have to give up. It is so common now, people are not even aware of the fact that they are butchering the language by randomly wandering from the singular to the plural in a sentence—“a user” and “their beliefs”, etc. It’s a fingernail on a blackboard experience for people who care, but I think it only takes one generation for a language to become degraded, and I am watching it happen. My personal feeling is that people who don’t care about precision in language probably don’t care about precision in other areas as well, and these “who cares?” people are designing and building our airplanes and nuclear devices, becoming neurosurgeons, etc.

    • Cluster February 19, 2018 / 4:16 pm

      And this is one reason why I watch MSNBC, and read HuffPo etc. I do want to know what the other side thinks, but many times I feel the need to shower afterwards.

      Talk about humorous:

      Of course, none of the networks were aware of who was allegedly behind the march, but CNN and MSNBC reveled in the inflammatory messages of the march. At one point, MSNBC anchor Alex Witt credulously responded to the ridiculously alarmist rhetoric: “That woman, when she’s saying she’s concerned that black people will be shot in the street….Is that a legitimate concern for her? Because, that’s scary.”

      Correspondent Morgan Radford cheerfully played along: “Alex, it’s not only a legitimate concern for her, it’s a legitimate concern for a lot of people I’ve spoken to….They’re wondering if this [Trump’s election] is almost a license to carry in terms of hate.”

      The Russians succeeded beyond their wildest expectations in sowing discord – particularly with progressives. Of course, Russia has experience in motivating communists.

      • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 5:41 pm

        “…“That woman, when she’s saying she’s concerned that black people will be shot in the street….Is that a legitimate concern for her?”

        Does she eat at Outback Steakhouse? The hysterical woman at Outback in Tennessee needed to be escorted to her car by an employee after seeing an armed law enforcement officer eating in the restaurant, in mortal fear of being shot down in the parking lot. (I probably wouldn’t have shot her, but I might have slapped her spitless just for being criminally stupid.)

        As for “legitimate concerns” there are people concerned that Donald Trump’s presidency will result in the end of all human life on Earth. And that alligators in the sewers might rise up in toilets and chomp on exposed “parts”. And that cotton balls are dog whistles for racism. And that the third verse of the Star Spangled Banner means, “when translated” that Americans “take joy in killing African Americans”. And that certain songs, when played backwards, are messages from the Devil. And that the only reason polar bears ever get old and toothless and die is because there isn’t enough ice. And that attacks on Earth will come from secret underground cities on the Moon. And that Mitt Romney secretly thinks he is a nobleman who needs a title. And so on. Sure, some of these people might think Trump’s election is almost a license to carry in terms of hate—-whatever that means. After all, it is a concern that his hair, if lifted up, would reveal a tattoo of 666.

      • Amazona February 19, 2018 / 5:49 pm

        Mighty Stupid, Nothing But Crap, home of hysterical nitWitt Alex and straight man Morgan Radford and a cast of ninnies.

  9. Amazona February 19, 2018 / 5:29 pm

    National Review isn’t just anti-Trump. There is a recent article by Michael Brendan Dougherty that savages Mitt Romney—because the author has decided Romney is really an aristocrat. It is a snotty, slimy, catty little hit piece. What IS it with those guys over there?

    And Erick Erickson is all wound up because he has taken it upon himself to decide that Donald Trump is not the right kind of Christian.

    So much for Identity Politics being the realm of Democrats!

  10. Cluster February 20, 2018 / 9:09 am

    I wonder if this insane progressive idea had any role in the Florida shooting:

    Broward County used to lead the state of Florida in sending students to the state’s juvenile justice system. County leaders responded with a perfectly progressive solution: “lower arrests by not making arrests.”……..One particular motivation behind programs like Broward County’s was the pressure from multiple sources to reduce the statistical disparity between black and Hispanic student arrests on one hand and white and Asian student arrests on the other.

    • Amazona February 20, 2018 / 11:22 am

      Just think how quickly we could slash the number of auto accident deaths due to drunk driving merely by classifying them as “driver error”. Or “oops”

    • M. Noonan February 20, 2018 / 4:36 pm

      Living in Stalin’s Russia…if Stalin said there was no crime, then there was no crime; and those who committed crimes simply would be allowed to get away with it because no one wanted to be the guy crossing the boss.

  11. Cluster February 20, 2018 / 1:38 pm

    And here’s another well governed, beautiful progressive municipality ….

    The Investigate Unit spent three days assessing conditions on the streets of downtown San Francisco and discovered trash on each of the 153 blocks surveyed. While some streets were littered with items as small as a candy wrapper, the vast majority of trash found included large heaps of garbage, food, and discarded junk. The investigation also found 100 drug needles and more than 300 piles of feces throughout downtown.

    • Retired Spook February 20, 2018 / 2:14 pm

      And yet people pay exorbitant amounts of money to live there. But it does illustrate an environment that the Left seems to find acceptable and would, no doubt, foist on the rest of us given the opportunity.

      • Cluster February 20, 2018 / 2:37 pm

        So when do we stop listening to, and taking these people seriously? They are wrong about everything all the time, yet we still give them credibility. They can not even govern cities let alone a country. And can we not blame the democrats for doing NOTHING when they had a filibuster proof majority in Congress and controlled the WH in 2009 and 2010? Where were the gun control efforts and immigration reform ideas then?

        Why did they do nothing? Shouldn’t they at least be asked that question?

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