Impeachment Talk

New articles of impeachment have been filed in the House. I’m thinking that just about every two years someone files articles of impeachment against every President – but, most of the time, it is mere boilerplate. This time, it might have more to it. The Democrats will do everything they can to harm Trump, of course. They won’t hold back from impeachment based upon the facts of the case or simple decency: if they do it, then it is because they calculated it works best for them.

It won’t happen tomorrow. First, Mueller has to drop his report – which will have nothing, but will hint darkly at this and that horrible thing the President may have done. Then the House will hold well-televised hearings and MSNBC will have to talk shop it for a few news cycles. So, not before, say, April, at the earliest.

The Democrats have the votes to impeach – if Pelosi allows it to come to the floor, then the President will go on trial before the Senate. It is highly unlikely that Democrats will find 20 Republican Senators willing to commit political suicide by voting to remove the President. But, I don’t think that would be the Democrats real desire (they’d take it if they could get it, of course). All they’d really be hoping for is for 51 Senators to vote to convict. While that would not remove Trump from office, it would be devastating to him. The Democrat talking point would be “a majority wanted him removed from office”. Trouble is, I don’t think even Mitt Romney would go along with it. Susan Collins is up for re-election in 2020 and while she wins by attracting Democrats, she does need a united GOP to get over the top. Murkowski isn’t up until 2022, so she might be a possibility – but, once again, she’d risk a pretty ferocious backlash at home should she vote to convict Trump. Democrats would need to find four Republican Senators to get to that 51, and I just don’t see where they get the four.

And that, right there, might get Pelosi to spike any impeachment move. A Senate which voted by a majority to acquit Trump would work out to a vindication of the “witch hunt” accusation. It may boomerang very hard against Democrats – especially as they’ll have no legislative accomplishments to burnish their record heading into 2020. On the other hand, the Democrat base – which, according to polls, believes that Trump got elected because Russia switched votes in 2016 – would be quite furious if Trump isn’t impeached. The Democrats have dangled the red meat of Trump’s removal in front of their base for two years…will they be satisfied with anything less?

Personally, I think the Democrats made a strategic mistake when they followed along with the Team Hillary idea that Trump’s victory was illegitimate. They could have more effectively fought him on policy – what they’ve been fighting him on is his mere existence. His continued existence works out to defeat for the Democrats – and by not accepting him as legitimate, they’ve fairly well foreclosed any possibility of negotiating with him. They’ll have to go into 2020 without having gotten rid of Trump, and without having anything else to show for their efforts.

50 thoughts on “Impeachment Talk

  1. casper3031 January 3, 2019 / 4:15 pm

    Impeachment won’t happen unless there is Republican support. That will only happen as more information comes out about all the laws Trump has violated. That and if the economy continues tanking.

    • M. Noonan January 3, 2019 / 5:20 pm

      Too bad for you the economy isn’t tanking and he hasn’t violated any laws.

      Look, Cap, it’s all BS. That you want to believe it because Orange Man Bad is fine: do what you want to do. But don’t bother us with it.

    • Retired Spook January 3, 2019 / 6:24 pm

      I think Cap has the stock market and the economy confused, but then I expect that from someone who rarely know what he’s talking about. And even the stock market isn’t “tanking.” just going through the first real correction in nearly a decade, marking the end of the longest bull market since WW2.

      • M. Noonan January 3, 2019 / 6:29 pm

        I’m sure the money bags are also doing some things to make it drop – but, seriously: we’re switching under Trump to a make/mine/grow economy. If we make things of value, we’ll be fine. And the Wall Street Gamblers will have to learn how to invest for long term profits.

      • Retired Spook January 4, 2019 / 11:04 am

        Yeah, the economy is “tanking” all right. Way to step in it Casper.

        The numbers: The U.S. gained 312,000 new jobs in December, capping off the biggest increase in hiring in three years and showing that second longest economic expansion in U.S. history still has plenty of staying power despite growing worries about a slowdown.

        The surge in hiring was the largest since February. Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had forecast a 182,000 increase.

        Hiring in November and October was also stronger than originally reported, the government said Friday.

        — snip —

        Strong hiring has also given workers more bargaining power with their bosses. The amount of money the average worker earns climbed 11 cents, or 0.4% to $27.48 an hour last month.

        What’s more, the increase in pay in the past 12 months rose to 3.2% from 3.1%, matching a post-recession high set earlier in the year.

    • Amazona January 3, 2019 / 8:43 pm

      I keep hearing about “all the laws Trump has violated”. Well, no, I actually never hear anything about all the laws he has violated, only an incessant annoying whine that he HAS violated some laws.

      • M. Noonan January 3, 2019 / 11:36 pm

        Looks like the worst they can get him on – in other words, what they can pretend they can get him on – is the bogus charge of obstructing justice by firing Comey (which can’t possibly be obstruction because the Justice Department is a creature of the Presidency – the President is the chief law enforcement officer, not the Justice Department) and campaign finance violations…you know, the same thing Obama’s team got a fine for doing.

      • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 8:52 pm

        I think that to obstruct justice there first has to be a crime.

        That’s the funniest thing about this whole charade. Its basis is something that, even if it existed, would not have been a crime, and then everything else is built around this non-crime.

        And don’t forget the John Edwards slap on the wrist, for using campaign funds to support his mistress.

        I think an effective response to the campaign finance charges would be to open an investigation into every penny of taxpayer money spent to protect every member of Congress, naming names and dollar amounts. If the Congresscritter ran for reelection after being bailed out by the slush fund, that would have been a campaign contribution, and in any case every penny, plus interest, should be repaid.

        Open the books, shine some light on the whole disgusting practice. Good for the goose, etc……….

      • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 7:20 pm

        The Russian Government’s Election Attack

        1. Tie this to Trump. Note the conflation of the overt efforts to, as the article claims, link a claim of active cyber intrusions and data theft by the military intelligence unit GRU with the unidentified attempted attacks on the US voting system. Oh, there is the implication, after the ominous assertion that there was an actual physical “attack on the voting system” (whatever that means) that maybe Russia’s expensive and multipronged attack coordinated with contacts between Russian nationals and the Trump campaign over the course of 2016. The slyness of this comment is not hard to see: A lot of unrelated things “coordinate” with each other if they happen in the same time frame and happen to involve similar topics. The effort to link the innocent effort to learn facts about possible illegal acts of Hillary Clinton in her Secretary of State relations with the Russian government with what MAY have been attempted by that government in its own pursuit of its own agenda is simply despicable. Not surprising, just despicable. And BTW, it is not surprising that this kind of semantic game-playing sucks in the gullible and the intellectually and morally dishonest who are not only willing but eager to believe the worst of someone else.

        2. Here are two more sly dishonest efforts to imply what can’t be proved and what may not even exist, at least not as relevant to any wrongdoing: (1) Mueller has also reportedly been investigating the role of late GOP activist Peter Smith, who had apparently tried to locate stolen emails and make contact with Russian hackers. (2) It’s also unclear what has sparked Mueller’s apparent continued interest in Trump’s campaign tech firm, Cambridge Analytica. See how that works? A claim is made, that there were active cyber intrusions and data theft by the military intelligence unit GRU and then the article piggybacked on that references to alleged and unproved events that were not even illegal, in an effort to create the illusion that they ARE related and all part of a sinister, nefarious scheme. But it’s 90% innuendo and implication.

        3. Whether WikiLeaks’ publishing of the emails stolen by Russian hackers connects from Moscow to Trump Tower itself remains an open question. But the REAL “open question” would be if there would be anything wrong with this, if it did happen. It’s not as if WikiLeaks published false information. It’s not as if WikiLeaks lied. It’s not as if anyone from the Trump campaign paid anyone, including an agent of the Russian government, to invent and create a false narrative of lies built upon lies and then submitted this false “dossier” to WikiLeaks to publish to harm Hillary Clinton. What all this noise is intended to do is to provide cover for the fact that the information about Hillary Clinton was true, accurate, and damning—at least to people who care about such things—by working very very hard to kill the messenger.

        4. Any person in any nation can have an opinion about who he would prefer to see as president of the United States, and his actions to encourage that outcome are not only (a) not by definition illegal, unless they cross specific lines of law, or (2) related to or caused by the campaign of the person who might benefit by the effort.

        5. This is an effort to conflate the many intricate business and personal relationships that develop over years of high-level international business dealings with nefarious and illicit political maneuverings that, in themselves, are not even proven to exist. The “crimes” trumpeted by the Get Trump Brigade are all process crimes, heavily dependent on assigning motives to actions that are ambiguous and not clearly, objectively, criminal without the determination of motive and knowledge applied by the prosecution. One would have to think of himself as a “foreign agent” and have legal knowledge of the precise definition of the term to be guilty of a crime in not registering as such. “Lying” has become a Leftist tool, now applied to conflicts in memory or contradiction between the memories of two people. The prosecution merely has to assign the motive of purposeful effort to deceive and it can then proceed with its claims of lying and obstruction of justice, and this is the tactic it uses.

        6. The case also connects the Trump Organization’s business deals, and the campaign, directly to the office of Russian president Vladimir Putin, whose government was at the time busily engaged in the attack on the US election. Here we have a blatant example of the distortions practiced in this article. What “case”? There IS no “case”. There are only accusations, many of which are based on nothing more than other accusations, reminiscent of the tactic of the FBI leaking its false information to the media and then using the media coverage as “evidence” to support the false information, to build its false FISA court warrant applications.

        The Trump Organization is not the same as the Trump Campaign, yet the article claims they are one and the same when it talks about a business effort of the Trump Organization and then simply declares “The case also connects the Trump Organization’s business deals, and the campaign…” Then, because such a large business deal would probably have to have the approval of the Russian government, the article goes on to say this alleged “case” is also connected “, directly to the office of Russian president Vladimir Putin”. Ooooh! Now we have PUTIN involved in all this! Cool! Casper is tittering with glee!

        Well, wait a minute. Weasel Word Alert: The author is careful to not actually say this imagined unity of the Trump Campaign and the Trump Organization and the business discussions of the latter actually led directly to Putin Good call, because lying about Putin, specifically, might be dangerous. So this whole invented concoction only led directly to the OFFICE of Vladimir Putin—got to keep a little semi-plausible deniability here. So now the imagined conspiracy of the business organization and the campaign only leads directly back to a vague and undefined “office”.

        But wait! There are more innuendos to come! This all happened when, according to the article, the Russian government was “… at the time busily engaged in the attack on the US election..” Cue ominous music. And file away the assertion that there was an ATTACK ON THE US ELECTION !!!!!

        And don’t forget the purposely vague reference to the process crime Cohen plead out to, undescribed in detail but about “the status of the project”. Heavy stuff!

        7. Uh-oh. Now the ATTACK ON THE US ELECTION is back to a simple alleged preference by the general monolith of the entire “Russian government” for Donald Trump.

        Also note the lie about Jeff Sessions’ “contact with Russia”. That innocent conversation with a Russian diplomat in the execution of Sessions’ duty as a Senator has been explained and documented so many times, in so much detail, that a claim in this article that it was suspicious or part of some big conspiracy to COLLUDE WITH RUSSIA is proof of the article’s underlying bias and willingness to distort facts—which is, by the way, ACTUAL lying.

        8. You can’t have obstruction of justice without a prior crime investigation. This is just raw red meat tossed out to keep the haters salivating. Wipe that drool off your face, Casper. This whole paragraph is based on “fears” that something might>/b> happen and “hints” that something else might happen that might “potentially” be an “attempt” to make something happen. And all this is followed by the admission that it would not (read: COULD not) stand up to the rigors of an actual criminal prosecution but Congress might step in anyway to use it to slime the president. After all, there are now enough weasels in Congress to be quite comfortable with all the weasel words.

        9. Trump has been investigated in the past, several times, by various agencies including the FBI, over allegations of wrongdoing, and none of these investigations showed any criminal activity. Of course, those were not prompted by politics, so who knows what might be dug up and converted into a convenient accusation now? But the article admits that the biggest political bombshell produced by the New York hit squad has been payments to extortionist sex-for-money females. That’s been examined, analyzed and dismissed by rational legal minds as not criminal in any way, shape or form. He used his own money to pay for something of an entirely personal and private nature. Oooh, but there’s an INDICATION (!!!!!) that there might be something they haven’t made public yet—-AS IF they haven’t leaked everything they had or pretended to have before the midterms. And gee, looky—-they have apparently lined up some other people to pressure into making statements they can claim are proof of wrongdoing.

        As for Cohen pleading guilty, he plead guilty to something that is not even a crime, just to aid a corrupt federal agency in its pursuit of a sitting president, setting up the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York for a very embarrassing reversal, if not lawsuit for damages.

        10. More “potential concerns”. Give me a break. You people have no shame,

        The rest of the article is just more of the same old same old. “Tax schemes” Some Russian “elites” were at the inauguration! Never happened before! Gotta mean SOMETHING ! And people from the government of Saudi Arabia paid for rooms at Trump’s hotel! Zounds! Smoking gun proof of….well, of something. Oh, that’s right—-there HAS to be a nefarious reason for a foreign government to pay for hotel rooms in the capital of the United States located very conveniently close to the seat of the United States government ! What other reason could there be? Again…never happened before! Gotta mean SOMETHING!

        Note how this is transformed, by the miracle of Leftist semantic manipulation, into (cue some more of that sinister music—got any Vincent Price organ music around?) FUNNELING BUSINESS TO TRUMP’S ORGANIZATION !!!!

        There was no requirement that Trump give up his businesses before being elected. There was no requirement that after his election his businesses could only sell hotel rooms to private citizens and not have accounts with foreign governments—–not even in Washington, D. C., where foreign governments would, naturally, need housing for envoys to our government.

        But oooh, SUBPEONAS HAVE BEEN ISSUED !!!!!

        And there COULD be another investigation by an unknown party or parties into unknown activity or activities that COULD be a criminal case or even COULD be “a counter-intelligence investigation” that will (conveniently) never be made public. Now, THAT is worth getting excited about!

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

        And this, people, is the kind of mishmash of fact, partial fact, implication, innuendo, distortion and outright lie that forms the entire foundation for the Trump Is A Criminal meme. Which, of course, Casper slurps down and finds so tasty. It’s all brown, so it must be chocolate pudding, right, Casper?

        We, and especially the parents in Casper, Wyoming, can all breathe a sign of relief that this intellectual midget with his emotional commitment to hate and lies is no longer “teaching” impressionable young minds. Now he's just drooling over wildly biased, distorted and often false hit pieces and getting as excited as a man of his age can get about them.

      • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 7:52 pm

        Mueller has also reportedly been investigating the role of late GOP activist Peter Smith, who had apparently tried to locate stolen emails and make contact with Russian hackers. It’s also unclear what has sparked Mueller’s apparent continued interest in Trump’s campaign tech firm, Cambridge Analytica.

        This is one of my favorite parts of the hit piece Cappy is so proud of.

        In fact, it says absolutely NOTHING. Mueller has been “reportedly” investigating some guy. Reported by whom? Samantha Bee? With what credentialed access to such information? Or “reported” in an anonymous tweet? Without a legitimate source for the “reporting” this is less than crap.

        So he is supposedly “investigating” a dead man—that sounds productive. Or at least he is “investigating” the possibility that the dead man, who is of course automatically suspect because he was reportedly a “GOP activist” (boo, hiss) because he was “apparently” trying to track down stolen emails. This is a crime? Whose emails? Could they have been the emails stolen from Hillary’s unsecured email server? Is there a crime associated with trying to find out where they are, and/or who took them? What, exactly, is supposed to be so significant about this, other than possibly the fact that this was evidently NOT being done by the FBI?

        What crime is there in “trying to contact a Russian hacker”? Mere contact is no crime. Asking the hacker who he worked for would not be a crime—-though the answer could be VERY embarrassing, especially to the FBI. Gee, do you think that might be what has Mueller, who was the head of the FBI when the email server was, allegedly, hacked, so concerned about someone trying to track down information on it?

        After more than two years, what, exactly, COULD remain “unclear” about what is identified as a “continued interest” in Cambridge Analytical much less what “sparked” this allegedly continuing interest? OK, so it’s not claimed to be an actual continued interest, only what appears to someone to be “continued interest”. But as to what would have “sparked” some examination of Cambridge Analytical is the same thing that “sparked” literally everything else about this mess—–it was connected with Trump. And that’s all he has ever needed.

        Association with Trump, support for Trump, working for Trump, being named Trump, being married to a Trump, all are what have passed for justifying “investigations”.

        But seriously, this man used to be the head of the FBI and he has a vast cadre of investigators at his beck and call as well as what is evidently an unlimited budget of taxpayer money and unlimited scope of prying, and in TWO YEARS he hasn’t been able to come up with anything, real or invented, on Cambridge Analytical? Wouldn’t that indicate that there is nothing to find?

        (OK, we do have to factor in the increasing likelihood that he is just the worst investigator since Inspector Clouseau.)

        This question follows another that occurred to me: Did Mueller, when he was head of the FBI and governed by the same government secrets act that Hillary had signed, then communicate with her on her illegal server, or even hear that she had one, and fail to investigate? Did he become complicit in her crime by using that server and therefore benefit by the disappearance of emails implicating him, and therefore feel threatened by the possibility that Peter Smith was doing the job the FBI was supposed to be doing and trying to track down those emails?

        I wonder if Casper ever asks any of these questions.

        No I don’t. They are not questions he has been told to ask, and wouldn’t fit in with what he has been told to think. Never mind.

      • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 8:55 pm

        BTW, I know it’s not nice to gloat, especially over something as easy as luring Casper into revealing the inanity and insanity of the silly stuff he so eagerly buys into. But really, that was just too easy. Dragging a string in front of a kitten would have been harder, but with an equally predictable result.

        He never learns, and maybe some day I’ll get tired of setting him up.

        Or not.

  2. Cluster January 3, 2019 / 6:56 pm

    I think Nancy Pelosi will end up being a very effective poster child for the reelect Trump 2020 campaign. And how about her daughter? Isn’t she charming?

  3. Amazona January 3, 2019 / 8:32 pm

    They could have more effectively fought him on policy ,,,,except that would create some problems, as their entire approach to luring in the brainless and the gullible is to avoid policy at all costs, and stick to what will get the emotions of their target demographic stirred up.

    Policy? The Women’s March was completely policy-free, as it these women were out there posturing as marching for the very rights they already had. There was not a single “policy” in any of their rhetoric that was about something not already in practice. But they were certainly riled up, certainly all shrill and strident and hysterical and emoting all over the place.

    The LAST thing the Left wants is a debate on policy, because they have too much to lose if their base, which exists only because of hate-driven nonsense based on lies, is exposed to the harsh and ugly reality of Leftist policies.

    I’ll bet that 90% of Dem voters have absolutely no idea of the political model they are supporting and enabling, because it is so well hidden behind the dense emotion screen of “gay marriage” and “gender equality” and “Trump is a criminal”. Step outside the hate bubble and talk about actual POLICIES and they will lose a lot of their support.

    • M. Noonan January 3, 2019 / 11:34 pm

      True that – they really can’t go with any policy that makes any sense (even liberal sense) because anything remotely approaching fact and logic harms their scam.

  4. Cluster January 4, 2019 / 8:50 am

    Democrats really are precious people:

    ‘We’re going to impeach that motherf***er’: Democrat Rashida Tlaib threatens Donald Trump’s presidency …

    Their tolerance for others is heartwarming /sarc

    And the idea that Democrats would ever debate policy is ludicrous. How can people who perpetually live in fear and crisis mode ever have the presence of mind to be rational?

  5. Cluster January 4, 2019 / 10:52 am

    Let’s never forget who Bob Mueller really is:

    As FBI director in 2002, Special Counsel Robert Mueller directed his agents to oppose the pardons of four wrongfully imprisoned men because exculpatory evidence was merely “fodder for cross-examination,” newly revealed FBI documents show.

    Four years later, the four men, or their estates, were awarded $102 million by a federal judge in Boston for their wrongful decades-long imprisonment due to FBI misconduct.

    Mueller is a low life, POS, partisan hack and incompetent. Nothing more. If we were not a banana republic, Mueller would be fired and lose his pension

  6. Cluster January 4, 2019 / 12:46 pm

    Casper, here is your fellow Democrat Donny Deutsch:

    “This is all [Trump] has left. That one metaphor, that one thing that talks to that 39, 40, 41% base that says: either the black man, or the brown man, or the Jewish man, or the media man, or the banker man is coming to take your wife. It’s not your — you’re not in the position you’re in because of you — it’s cause everybody else. That’s all he has left.”

    Now obviously you and Fielding believe in this line of thinking – so please shed some light on this for us. Do you think Trump supporters are afraid of losing their wives to black men? And isn’t identifying the skin color of a man racist? Just wondering.

    • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 8:47 pm

      You know, Cluster, it’s almost embarrassing to see the thin veneer of sanity being stripped from these people to show the truly insane, truly ugly, deeply disturbing reality of what they really are and how they really think.

      This kind of garbage didn’t just pop up in his head as something nasty he could say—-it lives there, day in and day out, fermenting in its own sour juices as his psyche savors it, cherishes it, feeds it and develops it, adding nuance and detail to flesh it out and make it ugly enough to be truly satisfying.

      And BTW, so sad for you, Donny, to live a life dominated by fears of someone “taking” your wife, something that must be close to the surface of your consciousness for you to project it so vividly. I’d guess that she wouldn’t have to be “taken” but would happily flee this kind of toxic insanity, but hey, if you have to think she would have to be “taken” instead of just getting sick of you and walking out, go ahead and stick with that. It might make you feel better.

  7. Retired Spook January 4, 2019 / 2:10 pm

    When you publicly refer to the President of the United States as a motherfu*ker, you’ve not only lost the argument, you’ve lost a whole bunch of ordinary Americans. Time to take her shovel away and give her a backhoe.

    • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 8:39 pm

      But of course this is being compared to the “incivility” of Trump once saying a woman had a “horse face”. Yet “horse” and “face” are words that can be used around children. They are not words that have to be bleeped out of TV shows. They are not, separately or together, considered one of the most vulgar of epithets.

      When this woman brags that this is what she would tell her son, all I can think of is “Wow—-what a mom”.

      Well, then I think that in Palestine or most of the Middle East she would not be able to expose her face, make a speech or use language like that.

      Some of the comments about this woman are very interesting, including her focus on either attacking Trump or promoting Palestine, neither of which is supposed to be in her job description. I’m already looking forward to a strong Republican response to Representatives like this in the next election.

  8. Cluster January 4, 2019 / 3:10 pm

    Proving once again the lack of self awareness all Democrats suffer from:

    Nancy Pelosi – ‘I’m not in the censorship business.

    Really? That’s all Democrats do Nancy is censor speech.

  9. JeremiahTMM January 4, 2019 / 7:20 pm

    How do you suppose that would go over with the American people, if the Democrats succeed at impeachment President Trump?

    • Amazona January 4, 2019 / 7:53 pm

      Jeremiah, I think a lot of that would depend on how this was presented to the public. Given the utter incompetence of the GOP in communicating anything even remotely helpful to the Right, I would not hold my breath.

  10. Cluster January 5, 2019 / 9:11 am

    Here are three really good examples of the alter universe progressives live in:

    ‘I hear the GOP thinks women dancing is scandalous…’ Ocasio-Cortez

    And where did you hear that Alexandria?

    Sarah Sanders saying this morning 4,000 terrorists are apprehended at the border every day. That’s not true. – MSNBC’s Katy Tur

    No Katy, what Sarah said was that 4,000 suspected terrorists had been apprehended in all of 2018. Not everyday.

    And finally

    JONATHAN LEMIRE [AP, WH REPORTER]: It certainly seem — I mean, certainly, the president’s remarks right there, rambling as they were, were delivered like a campaign speech. There wasn’t, like, an update to reporters about legislation. It was the same rhetoric we’ve often heard about him discussing how this threat that exists at the border, this, the — couched in the same sort of dangerous terms we heard about that caravan, which, of course, never did arrive at the southern border of the United States.

    Uh yea Jonathan, the caravan did reach the southern border and was stopped by the wall !! Imagine that.

    Just the other day Casper revealed the alter universe he lives in by saying the “economy is tanking” despite incredible 2018 economic reports including 2.8 million new jobs, rising wages, and the most expansion in the manufacturing industry in 21 years.

    So not only are Democrats dishonest and incompetent – they actively deny reality.

    • Amazona January 5, 2019 / 11:42 am

      they actively deny reality.

      And science. Don’t forget the denial of science, such as the denial of two genders and the belief in an infinite number of infinitely flowing, changing and evolving genders—all of which are dependent on FEELINGS and totally unrelated to biology. (Which is a science.)

    • Amazona January 5, 2019 / 11:48 am

      couched in the same sort of dangerous terms we heard about that caravan, which, of course, never did arrive at the southern border of the United States.

      Funny, isn’t it, how quickly they forget, or simply lie about, the intended goal of the caravan, repeatedly stated and howled for the eager and compliant press, that they planned to enter the United States legally or illegally and violently if necessary.

      Let a few thousand angry determined people march on the southern boundary of San Francisco loudly announcing along the way that they intend to march right into San Francisco and do whatever they want there, because they have a RIGHT to do so, and see how quickly those little Lib hearts flutter and they call this mob a danger.

      And yes, the caravan DID reach the border, and we have pictures of them trying to swarm the barrier. If they didn’t arrive at the border, how can the Border Patrol be responsible for the deaths of those two innocent children whose lives were sacrificed by their parents in their efforts to use the children as pawns in Obama’s Bring a Kid, Get a Pass invitation?

    • Amazona January 5, 2019 / 11:51 am

      There wasn’t, like, uh, you know, like an update. Instead he, like, uh, you know, he like just talked about, like, you know, the threats of an unprotected border, and you know, like, uh, that didn’t have anything to do with, you know, like the legislation

      “like!” Yeah, we need more of these J-school grads who can’t even, you know, like speak proper English.

    • Amazona January 5, 2019 / 11:53 am

      And where did you hear that Alexandria

      From the voices in her head, of course—-the same voices that tell her she is relevant.

      • Retired Spook January 5, 2019 / 12:35 pm

        What’s hilarious is the Left’s attempt to paint a narrative that Republicans are afraid of AOC. All I’ve heard coming from the Right so far is ridicule of her vacuousness, and how delighted we are that she’s the new face of the Democrat Party.

      • Amazona January 5, 2019 / 1:08 pm

        The Left, which is wholly dependent on fear to motivate its own base, appears to be projecting its own skewed perspectives onto people who are far too advanced to fall for it.

        “Homophobia”, a favorite howl of the howling Left, is a meaningless term. Homosexuality means attraction to the same gender, based on the word “homo”. From the Greek, “homo” means “the same” and from the Latin it means “man”. So the term “homosexual” refers to sexual attraction to “the same”. Therefore the word “homophobia” would mean “fear of the same” or, alternatively, “fear of man (or men)”. The only reason this nonsensical word exists is because of the Left’s constant efforts to recast anything non-Left as simply being motivated by fear.

        That lets the Left simultaneously dismiss any concerns by non-Leftists as silly, panicky and of no real substance, while letting them posture as being above such petty fears.

        So they fall back on this effort time and time again, as we saw in the quote Cluster provided which sneered at Trump for “fearing” the thousands of people marching on our border, dismissing this alleged “fear” as silly and paranoid and unfounded but taking no credit for inventing the “fear” in the first place.

        Now they are trying to build up AOC by trying to create an image of her as a serious person of intellect, wisdom and foresight, who is such a threat to the Right that we FEAR her.

        It’s a common Leftist tactic. It’s what they do, and they do it because it has worked so well for them. But once we recognize it, it is no longer effective.

      • Cluster January 5, 2019 / 7:34 pm

        I think most conservatives just don’t give a damn anymore what the left thinks of us … with the exception of Romney, Flake and other Never Trumpers of course but those ranks are shrinking. As Amazona said, these derogatory bombs they constantly throw out mean nothing anymore. If everything is racist, then nothing is racist. It becomes meaningless

    • Ryan Murphy January 6, 2019 / 8:01 am

      They take factoids, strip away all contextual clues, then attach a scaffolding of bad logic and emotions to them and present them as reality

  11. Amazona January 5, 2019 / 1:32 pm

    Breaking the tradition of the secretive Nobel Commission, former secretary Geir Lundestad admitted that Barack Obama was awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 in the hope that it would strengthen his presidency.

    OMG !!!!!!! Norway was trying to meddle in American politics !! And Obama COLLUDED with them ! Really—he actually went to Norway for a big photo op, to collect his prize, all to “strengthen his presidency”. What business does NORWAY have in trying to “strengthen” the presidency of an American president?

    • Cluster January 5, 2019 / 7:37 pm

      We need to investigate !!!!!! Special Counsel is needed to look into this serious allegation and to probe into every facet of Obama’s finances. Including the last ten years of tax returns.

      • Amazona January 6, 2019 / 10:12 am

        I could not agree more. If Norway, or any other country for that matter, was so deeply invested in “strengthening” Obama’s presidency, are we to assume they did nothing to get him elected in the first place? Did anyone check into every single contact every single person associated with Obama made with any person from any other country?

        As “collusion to influence an election” is not a crime, there is no statute of limitations, so let’s dump a few million into a meaningless foray into meaningless events or non-events or alleged events or events that MIGHT have happened!

        But if attempting to influence an election IS a crime, then let’s get Barry down on his work to influence the Israeli elections! With U.S. taxpayer money, no less. Who authorized that?

  12. Cluster January 6, 2019 / 9:29 am

    So now we know:

    Virtually every media outlet claimed conservatives were “outraged” by a video of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dancing as a college student. The source of these articles was a single anonymous Twitter account, with a handful of other trolls joining in. The incident was just the latest example of the media manufacturing right-wing outrage.

    They just make shit up.

    But I do know why Casper is so excited about Ocasio-Cortez. Brown people, and even lightly colored brown people, (you know those people with more of a taupe appearance) have been very successful running socialist countries – why just look at Honduras, Venezuela, Colombia, El Salvador, etc. These countries are utopian socialist paradises where everyone is equal and gender neutral. All America needs is a brown leader and a socialist economy and things will be perfect – right Cap?

    • Amazona January 6, 2019 / 10:17 am

      Well, yeah! That is, if “outrage” is exhibited by a little snickering. True, right-wing outrage is so rare, the Left might have trouble identifying it, and it would constitute cultural appropriation anyway.

      It IS interesting, however, to have the Left provide us with a comparison of L v R “outrage”. Theirs is dressing up like genitalia, rioting looting and burning, and calling people vile vulgar names in public and bragging about it, as well as working to undermine our electoral process and unseat a president. Our is giggling at some really bad dancing while on our way to work.

    • Amazona January 6, 2019 / 10:20 am

      AOC is just the latest shiny thing dangled in front of an increasingly easily distracted base. And Dems are noted for electing inexperienced unqualified people for no reason other than their skin color—our last president stands as proof of that, in the exalted company of Mad Max Waters, etc.

      • Retired Spook January 6, 2019 / 3:27 pm

        Dems are noted for electing inexperienced unqualified people for no reason other than their skin color—our last president stands as proof of that

        I wonder if someone, like Joe Biden for example, had touted the fact in 2008 that we finally had a chance to elect our first mulatto president, if that could have had an adverse effect on the election. Just an off-the-wall thought.

  13. Cluster January 6, 2019 / 9:40 am

    I don’t think one California Democrat representative was at the funeral of Officer Ronil Singh. And they are the ones who are directly responsible for his death. In fact in my opinion Democrats are directly responsible for all American deaths at the hands of illegal immigrants and they still refuse to spend our own money to protect our families.

    They are reprehensible people and Casper and Fielding should be ashamed of themselves for affiliating with people like that.

    • Amazona January 6, 2019 / 10:24 am

      They are reprehensible people and Casper and Fielding should be ashamed of themselves for affiliating with people like that.

      Har Har. Cluster made a funny! He linked the concept of “shame” to some Lefties. Good one, Cluster!

      The Left has always been directly responsible for the deaths of millions, and people still flock to its side. Can you possibly expect people who excuse mass murder, oppression, tyranny and enforced misery to be ashamed of a few more deaths?

      • Cluster January 6, 2019 / 11:03 am

        I have never been more disgusted in anyone than I am with the current Democrat Party. They are truly despicable people – every single one of them. They are fascists, racists, moronic, evil, and vile people.

      • M. Noonan January 6, 2019 / 6:09 pm

        I saw an article in the LA Times which was essentially arguing that anti-Semitism should be ignored if the anti-Semite has some good points. It is like trying to excuse Hitler by noting he was kind to animals and treated his servants with a great deal of consideration. But that is where we are – and it is going to get a lot worse.

      • Amazona January 6, 2019 / 6:59 pm

        I’m wondering “what ‘good’ points”. That Jews really ARE awful?

        Or does the “good point” get to be about something removed from the bigotry? Like it’s OK to hate Jews if you give to United Way? So you could stereotype blacks as lazy and dangerous if you ring a Salvation Army bell at Christmas, or are on the “right” side of some Leftist position?

        This is even worse than defending Mussolini because he had the trains running on time.

      • M. Noonan January 6, 2019 / 8:53 pm

        I know, right? WTF? Where do these people come from?

    • M. Noonan January 6, 2019 / 6:02 pm

      Someone pointed out that the ambassador of Singh’s home country showed up…but not a single Democrat office holder. They are ashamed and running scared. They are counting on the MSM to bury stories like this. But, this is what open borders really means: dead people.

  14. JeremiahTMM January 6, 2019 / 6:10 pm


    Did you post this video? Or is this person another Mark Noonan?

    • M. Noonan January 6, 2019 / 8:52 pm

      As my Dad died in 2009, I’d have to say it wasn’t me.

      • JeremiahTMM January 6, 2019 / 9:00 pm

        Thanks for clarifying, Mark. 😊👍👍

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