Open Thread

Trump will give his big immigration speech tonight. So far, I really haven’t seen an definitive word on what he’ll say. As I’ve said, in the crucial things, Team Trump is airtight.

The American Psychological Association has announced that traditional masculinity is harmful to boys. They are going to make psychology into a new form of quackery.

Fidel Castro’s grandson has been flaunting a lavish lifestyle. Which means, as per usual, his dictator grandad was robbing the treasury blind while shouting “Socialism or death!”. And our liberals always fall for these guys – and I think that they are actually in favor of it. You know: grabbing what you can from the poor and living it up along with saying leftist things to absolve you of all sins.

California governor Gavin Newsom is proposing free (you know, “free”…ie, working stiffs pay out the nose for it) healthcare for all illegal immigrants under the age of 26. I’ve no sympathy for Californians: they voted for this nitwit, and they are going to get the government they deserve good and hard.

Gorsuch and Sotomayor joined forces in defense of the Sixth Amendment. Its nice to see that, at least at times, both left and right on the Court can be concerned for our civil liberties.

Virginia’s Democrat governor is proposing a massive, new effort to ensure that there’s enough voter fraud to guarantee Democrats win the State, forever.

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61 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster January 8, 2019 / 7:01 pm

    The following is soft bigotry at best, and absolute mental diarrhea at it’s worst ….

    …..the masculine requirement to remain stoic and provide for loved ones can interact with systemic racism and lead to so-called John Henryism for African-American men, a high-effort method of coping that involves striving hard in the face of prolonged stress and discrimination.

    About 15 years ago, Rush Limbaugh started talking about the “feminization of our society” and the negative ramifications it could bring … we are seeing that now.

    • M. Noonan January 9, 2019 / 12:52 pm

      I read someone who said that the war against tobacco and booze – while also pushing for weed legalization – is part of war on the normal. And it does make sense. I mean, if it was about stopping people from doing harmful things, you’d be working to end tobacco, booze and weed…but doesn’t work out that way, does it? Pretty much anything that Western people have liked is being attacked…almost as if there are people who hate Western civilization and want to destroy it.

    • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 1:15 pm

      “so-called John Henryism”

      “So-called” by WHOM? This reeks of the same tactic as inventing something and attributing it to a “source” to make it seem more significant.

      And BTW, high-effort methods of coping are what lead to survival—-coping with weather, economic conditions, trauma, distress, conflict, disaster, tragedy. “High-level methods of coping” are good things, the opposite of meekly bowing down to the difficult or the intimidating, and that is what seems to distress the author.

      BAD coping, bad bad bad coping. Bad masculine trait. Stop it. Whimper and curl into a fetal position where you can’t provide opposition to tyranny. That is the message of the American Left.

  2. Cluster January 9, 2019 / 11:22 am

    A mind is terrible thing to waste ….

    • Retired Spook January 9, 2019 / 1:52 pm

      Casper seems to think they we all are scared to death of this dimwit — LOL! And why is it that Rachael Maddow always seems to appear constipated?

      • M. Noonan January 9, 2019 / 3:32 pm

        Over on Facebook, I’m still friends with the liberal guy who used to comment here under the name of Andropov…he’s still just as liberal as he’s ever been and every now and again we good naturedly go at each other a bit. Naturally, one of his liberal friends was thinking the reason I hold Pelosi in contempt is because she’s a strong woman. I had to break it to her that I feel the same level of contempt for Paul Ryan. What Establishment boosters like Cap don’t get is that we’re getting to dislike all of them. And that we’re liking Trump ever more because he’s the only guy attacking all of them. I’m Twitter friends with another fanatic liberal and we find ourselves from time to time re-tweeting each other with approval. We’re both sick of this uni-party garbage. Quite honestly, I’d rather be governed by liberals who were at least honest about what they wanted to do than be governed by “Conservatives” who are lying to me about what they want to do.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 1:07 pm

        Gee, Mark—do you think that you and the Libs you reference are actually moving away from Identity Politics into, you know, actual POLITICAL discourse? You know, discussing the best blueprint for governing the nation?

        What a concept! Not that you have been a slave to Identity Politics, though I have seen you dip a toe in every now and then, but this is the entire foundation of Leftist support. If you can start to undermine that, even on a small scale, good for you.

      • Cluster January 9, 2019 / 4:58 pm

        I’d rather be governed by liberals who were at least honest about what they wanted to do than be governed by “Conservatives” who are lying to me about what they want to do.

        Oh I agree with that.

        Rachael Maddow always seems to appear constipated?

        You know you’re right lol I always thought Rachael was Chris Hayes in drag and still do sometimes

      • casper3031 January 9, 2019 / 6:04 pm

        You are certainly obsessed with her.

      • M. Noonan January 10, 2019 / 12:20 am

        The DNC told the MSM to play her up – so, she’s in the news. We do tend to talk about what is in the news.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 11:30 am

        As far as AOC herself is concerned, I don’t think anyone is “obsessed” with her, at least no one on the Right.. What attracts our attention is the treatment she is getting from the left.

        As an individual, she would be easily ignored by rational people, but as a phenomenon of the Left she is firmly in David Hogg territory, and it is fascinating, in a rather morbid way, to watch the Left pounce upon an identity it thinks will have some appeal and then build that identity up with constant publicity and fawning, trying so desperately to convey a sense of relevance and importance to someone who is vapid and mindless and posturing for the camera.

        We see this over and over again, as the Left latches onto someone—anyone—-it thinks will attract support and then feverishly works to erect an image of seriousness and importance around someone who is, obviously, nearly non-existent except for that hastily built up facade of seriousness.

        These shallow creations of the Left appeal only to a certain subset of people, the foolish and the gullible and more importantly those seeking someone to admire who is not demanding of any intellectual effort but who blatantly simply appeals to the most superficial imitations of thought.

        And here we find Casper.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 1:10 pm

        “…why is it that Rachael Maddow always seems to appear constipated?”

        I don’t think that is necessarily fecal matter backed up in Rachael that accounts for her expression. After all, to listen to her you realize that she spews enough of it to indicate a fully cleared colon on a daily basis.

        No, I think it is just the rage and hatred that form her basic identity and outlook on life that show on her face. She is a sour and surly person, and that’s what we see.

      • Retired Spook January 10, 2019 / 10:35 am

        I think it’s actually Left-wing rags like The Atlantic that publish lengthy articles about their wishful thinking that Conservatives are obsessing about her. And you obviously don’t understand the difference between talking about someone (mostly in a derogatory or ridiculing manner) and obsessing about or fearing someone. But hey, there’s very little that involves logic or common sense that you do seem to understand, so we expect no less. Just curious — does your wife beat up on you too?

      • M. Noonan January 10, 2019 / 1:25 pm

        You seriously bring up an Atlantic article to show what we’re thinking? Dude; get real.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 11:36 am

        Come on, guys, stop beating up on poor Casper. He is a doddering old widower, lost in a haze of vaguely Leftist concepts and easily—soooo easily—-led by his minders into swallowing and then regurgitating mindless pap.

        A side note: I was driving through Casper, Wyoming earlier this week when a check engine light went on in my pickup, so I ran over to Greiner Ford to have it checked out. While I was waiting I was chatting with someone who was also waiting for her car, and as she was of a certain age I asked her if she had children in school, and then if any of her children ever had a certain “Mr. W” as a teacher, and she laughed and said “Oh, you mean the Casper Communist?”

        Casper has always been a fool and a laughingstock, and retirement has just given him more time to be silly.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 1:03 pm

        Poor silly easily-led Casper. He has been told by his betters that we are not really focusing on the efforts of the Left to promote AOC and make her seem to be what she is not but we are focusing on HER, and of course that is what he dutifully regurgitates.

        I see Casper as the canary in the coal mine. When we wonder what kind of person can buy into the lies and the nonsense and the emotional manipulation of the Left, all we have to do is look at Casper.

        Remember, this is the guy who announced to us that anyone who defends the Constitution as it is written really defends slavery and denying women the vote. And he said this AS A TEACHER!!!! Who claimed to actually TEACH the Constitution—yet he never gave us a copy of his version, which evidently contained references our own, and the official, version does not.

        But he meekly parroted what he was told, in defiance of the actual facts and written words. Because that is what minds like Casper’s (and Fielding’s) do.

  3. fieldingclaymore January 9, 2019 / 6:29 pm

    Seems like 45’s Oval speech didn’t do the trick.

    • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 9:13 am

      No word on Democrats lies and rank hypocrisy Fielding? Nothing? How about you Casper?

      How about the $150 billion cash sent to Iran so they could kill more gays and oppress more women? Oh you supported that? I know how much you two care for people.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 10:57 am

        It was their money. I don’t like what the Iranians do but I thought the Iran deal was a good policy. As did the other world powers of France, UK, etc.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:57 pm

        “As did the other world powers of France, UK, etc.”

        But…but….but I thought you Lefties were strongly opposed, in that strong manly definitive way of yours, to any “interference” of any foreign power in any American policy. Aren’t you the crowd still howling at the moon over the possibility that when Russia got out its trouble stick to try to foment internal conflict in the United States by providing the electorate some (factual) information about their darling, Trump might have known about it in advance?

        Try to work on developing some internal consistency, Fielding. If you are going to freak out and pee down your leg every time some other nation weighs in on something to do with who we elect then you can’t expect anyone to care what ” ….other world powers of France, UK, etc…” think about any of our policies.

        Or, if that is too much for you, then to be consistent they should tweak their own internal policies to meet with American approval.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:20 am

        Of course you did … because you are weak. You give money to the worst of human kind and then excuse it because you are morally weak and not a man. Real men of conscience and integrity act much differently.

        I don’t expect you to understand

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:24 am

        You are in the class of Obama, Macron, and Trudeau. Weak, effeminate, morally confused men.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 11:34 am

        Easy tough guy. 45 type bluster and bombast is not a good look for you.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:51 pm

        “Easy tough guy. 45 type bluster and bombast is not a good look for you.”

        And here we have an excellent example of what passes for political discourse on the Left.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 11:36 am

        Would you say Mattis a weak, effeminate, morally confused man? He agrees with us fops and dandies.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:51 am

        Yes, Mattis has a bad track record. In fact all the current military elite have let this country down.

        And I don’t expect you to understand that either. You are an intellectually confused man and easily swayed.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:52 am

        I just speak the unvarnished, politically incorrect truth Fielding. That’s why you are having a hard time with it.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 11:52 am

        Weren’t you a Marco guy before 45? Talk about easily swayed.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 11:53 am

        So besides 45, whose authority on foreign relations do you respect?

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:54 am

        Fielding, you support a political faction that does destroy, and has destroyed everything it touches. Everything. But you don’t see it. Hence the morally and intellectually confused moniker.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 11:56 am

        Gen George S Patton, FDR, Reagan, John Bolton, Condi Rice, …. to name a few clear eyed, morally strong Americans

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:49 pm

        “that is just blather”

        Wow. Blistering comeback, Fielding. You tell him!

        But actually, he gave some good examples. And your reaction was completely predictable—to just snarl and dismiss them, without any basis other than how you FEEL about it.

      • Retired Spook January 10, 2019 / 12:28 pm

        Would you say Mattis a weak, effeminate, morally confused man? He agrees with us fops and dandies.

        In what way?

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 12:41 pm

        All we need to know is that Fielding supports regimes who kill gay people and oppress women. In other words, Fielding will do nothing to oppose them.

        There’s really nothing to discuss after that.

      • Retired Spook January 10, 2019 / 12:46 pm

        My guess is that Fielding’s main agreement with Mattis is not on policy but on the fact that Mattis disagrees with Trump.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 12:49 pm

        Anyone who would give Iran $150 billion cash is not only morally confused, but is a shining example of what is wrong with this world.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 1:25 pm

        Mattis didn’t want us to leave the Iran deal. That is what I meant.

      • M. Noonan January 10, 2019 / 1:27 pm

        And Mattis was wrong. About a lot of things. Brave man and a good general, by all accounts. But in policy wedded to the failed ideas of the past.

        We don’t want that any more. We either want war all the way, or no war, at all. No more playing whack a mole with jihadists. The source of the problem is in Tehran. When you guys agree to declare war on Iran and raise the 2 million man army we’ll need to crush them, get back to us. Absent that: bring the boys and girls back home.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:47 pm

        Fielding, you say “Mattis didn’t want us to leave the Iran deal. That is what I meant.”

        But that doesn’t really say anything, does it?

        What about “the Iran deal” did Mattis find beneficial? Give some sources for this, please.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 1:45 pm

        You may be right Mark or you may be wrong. But it doesn’t make me or (Mattis by Cluster’s implication) a pussy because we believe the deal was the best policy for the situation. Also, total war seems nuts.

      • M. Noonan January 10, 2019 / 2:32 pm

        If it’s nuts: then you tell a regiment heading off to fight that some of them will die, but there won’t be total victory. See how they feel about that.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:45 pm

        Fielding, you say you, as part of an unidentified “we” “…believe the deal was the best policy for the situation..”

        Why? In what way? Elucidate, please, as you have staked out a position. Explain (1) “the situation” and (2) why handing over billions of dollars to be spent on inflicting harm on civilized societies was “the best policy”.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 2:12 pm

        ANYONE who gives billions of cash to a regime that executes gays and oppresses women is WEAK AND MORALLY CONFUSED. That includes EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED IT.

        There is no equivocation on that. Zero. The question is Fielding, why do you support executing gay people? Why does Mattis support executing gay people?

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 2:22 pm

        It was there cash, when you make deal it is a give and take. We sell billions of dollars in weapons to the Saudis and they are just as bad. 45 loves them so you love them.
        right?

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:43 pm

        “45 loves them so you love them.
        right?”

        Fielding, we already know you are a mindless twit here only to strew snot-nuggets. You don’t have to keep reminding us. Even, so, this comment of yours is a new low of utter stupidity.

        I see that you tried to dodge Cluster’s suggestion that you educate yourself on our relationship with Saudi Arabia. Typical, I might add. You and people like you are not interested in facts, just in snarling and mewling and pissing on anything a conservative says. In other words, you try to mark territory by basic primitive means instead of by providing rational thoughtful ideas that can be discussed.

        Because discussion involved an exchange of actual ideas, not just a dumping of half-digested word salad you picked up from one of your Leftist sources. And y’all don’t DO ideas. You just do feelings, and you feel sour and surly and hateful so that is what you provide to any blog you decide to infest.

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 2:28 pm

        “Their money” Fielding.

        And using that logic, why don’t we just give Chapo Guzman his money back? It’s his money!! We should give it back right Fielding? And his guns and his drugs. There are all his so we should give it back. Right?

        And please do a little homework on Saudi Arabia before you compare them to Iran.

      • fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 2:29 pm

        Educate me on Saudi Arabia. Please

      • Cluster January 10, 2019 / 2:32 pm

        Sorry Fielding. I think you’re a worthless POS so I won’t waste any more time than I have to engaging with you. You’re on your own, just don’t kill any more gay people

    • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 1:05 pm

      “Seems like 45’s Oval speech didn’t do the trick.”

      Of course, to a Leftist like Fielding, it is all about “tricks”. As that is what their entire charade of political philosophy is based on, trickery and emotional manipulation, of course they look for it on the Right. And are baffled and a little irked when they can’t find it.

  4. JeremiahTMM January 10, 2019 / 3:01 am

    “The American Psychological Association has announced that traditional masculinity is harmful to boys. They are going to make psychology into a new form of quackery.“

    While the the feminization of society began with the acceptance of homosexuality, this will only add insult to injury. Worst of all, it will become part of school curriculum as part of the continuation of psychological warfare on our youth.

    • Retired Spook January 10, 2019 / 10:01 am

      Won’t have to worry about young men rebelling against authority and the loss of freedom. Glad I’ll be room temperature by then.

      • M. Noonan January 10, 2019 / 1:22 pm

        They hate our civilization and think they can build a better one…but if they really got their way, after they killed all people like us, then all they’d have are morally bankrupt cretins. The future these morons will build is a world where childless man-babies are f***ing robots in Mom’s basement between video game rounds.

      • JeremiahTMM January 10, 2019 / 10:55 pm

        I find it especially troubling, and disheartening, Spook, that we don’t have more good men like you, of a younger age who are willing to stand for freedom, honesty, and integrity.

        I’ve spoken with, and had many friends of your age most of my life, and they were all hard-working, God-fearing men. Just like you. You and they are who made this country possible.

        I have the utmost respect for guys like you! Also, I am very pleased to have interacted with you here, on the internet. Even though we have not met in person. Perhaps we will meet some day beyond the Pearly Gates. 🙂

        God bless!

      • Retired Spook January 11, 2019 / 12:23 am

        Thank you, Jeremiah; that means a lot.

      • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 12:04 pm

        Mark, I think we have to dig down another level or two to find the real motivation of the increasingly silly Mainstream Left. Yes, THEY have been lured in by the virtue signaling of these strange and foolish themes, but they are only there because these themes have been packaged as Morally Superior and Intellectually Advanced. They are the sheeple who want to be relevant but don’t want to do the heavy lifting of reading, studying history, analyzing the structures of the competing political models and making informed decisions.

        They want those they have identified as their betters to set the table for them, so all they have to do is pick up a pill that says “Intellectually Advanced” and wash it down with a slug of pompous self-righteousness and that is all it will take to be able to look down on those less brilliant. (The fact that the “less brilliant” have vastly more knowledge and awareness than they, and are snickering at their pomposity and posturing, flies right over their heads.)

        Our literary and religious history is rife with examples of this trick being played on the gullible who want the status of knowledge or relevance but don’t want to put in the time or effort to earn it. From Aesop’s Fables to the temptation in the Garden of Eden we have examples of evil luring the gullible and the lazy with promises of all sorts of ego-satisfying rewards just for taking the bait.

        And so the Left lays out the bait. And the weak-minded and morally shaky rush in to gobble it down.

        So we should look not at the bait, or those lined up to take it, or those who have taken it and been transformed by it into mindless automatons reciting the mantras that came with the bait, but at who set it out and why.

        And that comes down to the fact that the Left, like all evil, can only flourish in environments of chaos, of conflict and anger and distrust and divisiveness. So its minions scurry around busily planting the most divisive ideas possible in empty minds and then patting the recipients on the head and assuring them that accepting the nonsense and the hatred makes them better and smarter than those who rejected them.

        What is the most basic difference among mammals? Gender. If the Left can wreak havoc on the very concept of gender, and undermine gender-based roles and behaviors, it can weaken the very structure of society itself. And a weakened society is vulnerable because it is unsteady, fragile, a little scared, and more open to being taken over by a figure of strength and authority that promises to impose order and make it all better.

        In modern society the stabilizing forces are the family unit and religion, so these must be attacked, eroded, corrupted and fractured in any way possible, because they pose challenges to the ultimate goal of an all-powerful Central Authority. So the Left promotes things like killing babies, ridiculing religious beliefs, using the bully power of the State to force people to act against their religious beliefs, supporting philosophies that are antithetical to our culture and traditional values by paying lip service to things like Sharia Law, glamorizing illegitimate births and shacking up instead of making commitments to life partners, glamorizing and promoting deviant sexual behavior, trying to erase the very concepts of gender and gender-based roles, and so on.

        It is all designed to fracture, divide and weaken.

  5. fieldingclaymore January 10, 2019 / 2:31 pm

    You favor the starvation of Yemen.

    • Amazona January 11, 2019 / 11:39 am

      Huh?

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