To Wall or Not to Wall?

Trump says he’ll sign the budget bill, even though it has a lot in it his base despises. This is clearly a deal worked out between Democrats and Chamber of Commerce GOPers. Remember, at least half the GOP Congressional membership is as much open borders as the Democrats are.

So, what does it mean? The end of MAGA? I don’t think so. Trump says he’ll just go on and build the wall, anyway (and I would if I were him – and I’d calmly ignore any judicial injunction against it, using Andy Jackson’s old mot, “the Court has ruled; now, let the Court enforce”). We really need to re-work the GOP. A lot of real progress has been made getting rid of the Flakes and Ryans, but plenty remain. And even solid people, if they stay there long enough, will get captured by the system. At the end of the day, Trump is working hard to carry out his promises, and I’m with him through 2020.

Former FBI director McCabe said he pondered carrying out a coup d’etat against Trump after Comey was fired. He doesn’t use those words, but that is what he ultimately was on about. Now, a lot of people are very angry over this – I’m less so. I’m sure he would have liked to do it, but I don’t think it ever amounted to much: just some fools having a bull session (possibly following a good cry after Hillary lost).

Governor Gavin Newsom (D-North Mexico) wants to shovel $25 million of California taxpayer’s money at the illegal immigrants.

Someone do the math: CA taxpayers are exiting the State at X rate, illegals are arriving at Y rate. When does CA run out of money to shell out to the illegals?

Legal Insurrection notes that Newsom is clearly gearing up for a Presidential run. Not clear of which country at the moment.

Rumors abound at this time regarding the Jussie Smollet case. Some are saying that Chicago PD figures it was a hoax, but I’ve also read statements from Chicago PD denying this. What seems clear to me is that we don’t have what was originally told: racist, Trumpster white guys attacking a man because he was gay/black. Bottom line: treat all race- and gender-based attack stories as false until proven otherwise.

118 thoughts on “To Wall or Not to Wall?

  1. Cluster February 15, 2019 / 10:02 am

    The Smollet case is completely fake news and a reverse hate crime. The media ran with the story without verification simply because it involved the people they despise the most – white heterosexual male MAGA supporters. They are haters. This isn’t complicated.

    BUILD THE WALL. The bill passed yesterday is another clear indication that Pelosi and her band of dysfunctional followers hate this country. The bill includes a provision that essentially grants amnesty to all “sponsors” of children – guaranteeing that every sex trafficker and coyote will exploit a kid. This is the most mind numbing stupid provision anyone could include in any piece of legislation but that is who Democrats are. They want to kill children out of the womb and exploit them as they grow older.

    Occasional-Cortex (AOC) just killed a great opportunity for a minimum of 25,000 NY’ers due to her economic illiteracy. If she keeps this up, there will be no one to tax in NY either. You just have to laugh at her stupidity.

    Anyone who has followed politics over the last 20 years has to shake their head in disgust, or laugh at the hypocrisy and incompetence of every single elected member of the House and Senate. THEY ALL NEED TO GO. They represent special interests and serve themselves, not America and certainly not American children.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:44 am

      I recently heard an interview with Tom Tancredo, who had just gotten back from another visit to the border. He said that the border has been divided up among drug cartels who are expanding into human trafficking in a big and very professional way.

      They take money in Honduras, for example, and then bus the people to towns near the border, where they are taken to warehouses full of clothing and dressed to make a good impression at the border and schooled in what to say and how to say it. Each group arriving at the border has spokesman who has learned the script well.

      He says that our policies regarding adults accompanied by children have led to children being recycled at the border—-once their accompanying adults have crossed, the kids are taken back to be assigned to new adults. Because it is a given that women and girls will be sexually assaulted on the trip they are given birth control, and attractive young women essentially have to prostitute themselves as part of the fee for being transported.

      This is the system promoted by the Democrat Party.

      This is the system never covered by the “journalists” of the Complicit Agenda Media.

      • Cluster February 15, 2019 / 11:02 am

        It’s reprehensible

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:28 am

        It’s reprehensible and it is the official position taken by the Dems in Congress.

  2. fieldingclaymore February 15, 2019 / 10:38 am

    No wall unless Mexico pays for it. No fake national emergency is going hold up in court.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:49 am

      Maybe Fielding is arguing that the national emergency is really in Honduras, El Salvador, Mexico, etc and not the United States, as it is not the United States where women are being forced into prostitution in exchange for transportation to the border, where children are trafficked, where cartels have opened DBAs as human traffickers.

      He seems to be arguing that being the pimps, the enablers of these brutal systems, does not constitute a crisis for US, and to hell with those brown-skinned people our policies are victimizing.

      I wonder why he thinks some other country should pay for OUR national defense. I guess this is just a passion for spending OPM, write large on the international page.

      • fieldingclaymore February 15, 2019 / 11:03 am

        Because 45 said they were going to pay for the wall. The wall is a prop.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:26 am

        But Fielding, you are the one who wanted the president to ignore Congress and pull a Barry.

        “The wall is a prop”. What the hell is that supposed to mean? Oh, I know you are parroting what your masters have said but still—-it should mean SOMETHING, even if it is wrong. A “prop”?

        And while you smirk and simper and pretend that you truly believe the only way anyone can “pay” for anything is to write a check, not even you are that stupid. True, you often make it easy to think you are, but still…….

        You are a trustworthy little parrot, as mindless little parrots go, and you clearly have no integral sense of personal dignity as you so gleefully offer yourself up to scorn and ridicule, but I have to think that deep down somewhere there is a teeny tiny little voice squeaking that it sure would be nice to be thought of as something other than a pimple on the ass of the blog.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:34 am

        I list the human dignity offenses and crimes perpetrated by the Dem positions on border security and Fielding’s only comment is that Because 45 said they were going to pay for the wall

        ?????? So it is OK for drug cartels to take the life savings of poor desperate people, transport them and train them on how to game the US immigration system, use children as pawns and sexually abuse women and girls, including making them sex slaves, because—and YOU used the word “because”—–Mexico has not written a check to build a wall.

        It is OUR country, it is OUR national security, and it is OUR stain upon OUR national honor, and you excuse it all because some other nation has not stepped in and taken over OUR moral and legal responsibility?

        Only a Leftist could write something like this, moving from OPM to OPR (Other Peoples’ Responsibility).

        Supporting human trafficking, drug trafficking, sexual slavery, infanticide and eugenics as well as blatant racism have all become accepted and flaunted Dem Party identities. You all must be so proud.

    • Cluster February 15, 2019 / 10:51 am

      Well if you had an ounce of economic sense you would realize that the new USMC deal will result in additional revenue to this country at the expense of Mexico, so in effect Mexico will indirectly pay for the wall and that is what Trump meant all along and how rational, sane, economically minded people understood it. And you are not one of them.

      And you obviously have not spoken with any border official if you claim this is a fake emergency. I know some of them and all of them say they are overwhelmed.

      But moreover Fielding, none of us give a F**K what you, the courts, or your botoxed girlfriend Pelosi think, and we will do whatever we want to do. If you try and stop us, you will just incite more gun violence and we all know how much you hate gun violence.

      Just be a good little white progressive male and submit to your darker skinned, gender fluid masters. That’s what you do best.

    • Ryan Murphy February 18, 2019 / 10:48 am

      Good thing there isn’t a fake emergency then.

  3. Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 10:39 am

    Trump says he’ll just go on and build the wall, anyway (and I would if I were him – and I’d calmly ignore any judicial injunction against it, using Andy Jackson’s old mot, “the Court has ruled; now, let the Court enforce”).

    I’v been thinking along those lines for some time. Do federal courts have an enforcement mechanism against the Chief Executive. Clearly they don’t have an enforcement mechanism when the guys charged with upholding the law are the ones (DOJ, FBI) who are violating the Constitution. The courts are there to interpret law, now to act as a road block for someone doing his or her job. I think it’s time to find out if a federal court injunction means anything.

    • fieldingclaymore February 15, 2019 / 10:48 am

      Who needs a legislature or courts? Go full authoritarian! Tea Party Patriot

      • Cluster February 15, 2019 / 10:51 am

        Exactly. We will follow Obama’s lead.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:58 am

        Sorry, Fielding, but the pen and phone era of The One We Have All Been Waiting For is over, and we are back to governing according to the Constitution. As long as the Dems haven’t taken over, anyway.

        Yes, we know, you are sad so sad as you yearn for a return to tyranny, having to settle now for the tyranny of the mob and the tyranny of the press while you plot to get another Constitution-ignorer into the White House.

        But in the meantime you and your kind can go all Cloward and Pivens on us by swamping the system with illegals, rotting the culture with drugs, filling young minds with garbage consisting of lies and hatred, and swarming blogs with trolls. You can continue to incrementally introduce and promote your eugenics programs, you can support the victimization and sex trafficking of desperate people, you can keep working to undermine our Constitution and even mount a coup and topple an elected President, you can continue the effort to destroy our economy and thereby expand the Dependent Class your political system demands. You can keep doing all of this, and we will keep recognizing not only what you represent but what that says about you as a person.

      • fieldingclaymore February 15, 2019 / 11:06 am

        Congress has the power of the purse you know that. You are making a fool of yourself making excuses and deflecting for 45.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:42 am


        After I repeatedly chided the Lefty trolls here for trying to deflect attention away from their empty skirt Sandy and her Girl Posse by trying to drag in someone who is not even in Congress, now Fielding is appropriating the term “deflection”.

        Once a parrot, always a parrot.

      • Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 11:46 am

        Congress has the power of the purse

        Congress has lots of powers that they’ve abdicated to unelected bureaucrats and various Executive Branch agencies. Why should they be expected to not do the same on spending?

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 12:04 pm

        Before Trump slashed the size and scope of the EPA, they could have declared illegal immigration a pollution emergency and then implemented any “solution” they wanted. The EPA was given this broad scope of authority by Clinton in an Executive Order when it was headed by political whore Ken Salazar, and under that mandate vastly expanded its size and imposed all sorts of regulations on Americans in the name of fighting pollution, without any participation by Congress or even Congressional oversight.

      • Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 12:16 pm

        You are making a fool of yourself making excuses and deflecting for 45.

        Fielding, you mistake us for people who give a sh*t what you think. That’s one of the many things we’ve learned from reading your play book — shame and embarrassment have no place in politics.

      • Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 5:26 pm

        What exactly do Tea Party Patriots, whose goal is a return to Constitutional governance, have to do with “go full authoritarian?”

  4. Cluster February 15, 2019 / 10:54 am

    Hey Fielding, any comment on the Jessie Smollet story? You made a fool of yourself over the BuzzFeed fake story so just giving you another chance.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:15 am

        Deflection Mode seems to be the flavor of the day here as the Lefty trolls scurry around like little cockroaches trying to find something—-ANYTHING—-to distract from the topics they know are toxic to their cause.

        First it was Paul Ryan as R2D2 (Casper) frantically tried to shift attention away from the abundant defects of the new Leftist heroine as her perkiness has been worn away enough to show her silliness, shallowness, ignorance and semi-literacy. Now Fielding is using the WayBack Machine to get back to, what? 2003?

        I sense fear rising on the Left, and it is wonderful to behold. They don’t just keep backing the wrong horses, they keep backing donkeys—-or, to be more accurate, asses. So now they can’t really do much except hoot and holler that we are looking the wrong way. They are squealing “LOOK OVER HERE! OVER HERE !!! DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO OUR MISTAKES!

        Because…..Bush, and Ryan, and, uh………….. Isn’t it time to resurrect Nixon?

        But hey, what can you expect from a party that actually seems to take this New Green Deal seriously, takes Sandy and her Girl Posse seriously, supports anti-Semitism and infanticide on its way to all-out eugenics, thinks there is a magic spring that will somehow just keep filling the Treasury so money can keep flowing to keep buying votes, is not only happy victimizing poor and desperate brown-skinned people but actually legislates to make this happen, and is trying to gut our military strength (possibly as a prelude to another Apology Tour if they get a Dem president again).

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:56 am

        Ooooh, what a devastating non-story! No wonder it impressed Fielding so much. It said absolutely nothing.

        Oh, it referenced show gossip that these Nigerian brothers conspired with Smollet in a fake attack to gain him sympathy and notoriety, and the only disclaimer from the cops was that no one at CPD ever said any such thing.

        And just look at the “evidence” against the two black friends of Smollet in this alleged “hate crime”..the middle of the night raid (are we seeing a pattern here, folks?) produced: bleach, a “black facemask hat,” a red hat, an “Empire” script, receipts and other items.

        Hmmm. Bleach in a house. Pretty damning, I gotta say. Because what normal law abiding houses have bleach in them? A “facemask” hat—-common in cold climates, and Chicago in the winter is brutal. I happen to have “facemask hats” in several colors. And bleach, too. I guess I should start to worry about a midnight raid at my house, eh? “A red hat”. Not identified as a MAGA hat, just a red hat. And BTW, Smollet withdrew his earlier claim about an attacker wearing a red MAGA hat. And back to the “bleach” thing—–did Smollet’s clothing show signs of bleached-out spots? I splashed some bleach the other day while doing laundry and now my jeans have big white splotches. And why would black men splash bleach on another black man? This is supposed to imply a desire to erase blackness, but why would other black men want to do this? “Empire scripts” in a house occupied by people who work on the show. “Receipts”. Just…..receipts. And don’t forget those ominous “other items”.

        This is all, according to Fielding (based on his link to the non-story) supposed to support the story that Smollet was really and truly attacked for being black by other black men, and for being gay, by other black men who are friends of his without any prior bias against gays being mentioned in the article. (And I’m sure it would have been.) And to back up this claim they had, in their house, a normal household laundry product and some cold weather clothing and (cue ominous music) A RED HAT. Which is significant, I guess, though Smollet later said no, neither of his attackers was wearing a red hat.

        You guys are too funny. You make grasping at straws look dignified and rational by comparison.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:03 am

      Nah, Cluster, these vultures swoop in, do what they can and then move on to another fake story, another bogus “hate crime”, and never look back.

      At least with Jussie Smollet there were no corollary victims, like the ones in the big smear campaign against the Covington kids, or the athletes at Duke, or the other mob attacks by the mob mentality of today’s American Left. He tried to implicate Trump supporters in general, but this “actor” was so inept he couldn’t even keep to his own script.

  5. Cluster February 15, 2019 / 11:12 am


    On today’s Morning Joe, there was consensus condemnation of Ocasio-Cortez’s opposition to NYC’s deal with Amazon to establish an HQ in NYC, which contributed to Amazon’s decision to cancel its plans. Donny Deutsch put it in starkest terms, saying Ocasio-Cortez is “extremely dangerous,” and “does not know what she’s talking about.” Deutsch fretted that, from a Dem perspective, Ocasio-Cortez and her socialist sidekicks will “hand the presidency back to Donald Trump.”

    We need to keep AOC in the limelight and keep the infanticide activist Northam and his sexual predator Lt. Governor in place too. Shine the bright light on who Democrats are.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:20 am

      Oh, those Lefitist pundits are just obsessed with AOC, and probably fear her, too. Why else would they be talking about her on national TV?

      And her “socialist sidekicks” too! Oh me oh my they certainly seem intimidated by her/them. //sarc off

  6. Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 11:20 am
    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 11:36 am

      Just proof that the best humor is based on reality.

  7. Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 11:39 am

    The common narrative on the Left regarding Trump declaring a national emergency (which he’s doing as I type this) is that this will allow a future Donkey President to declare a climate national emergency or an emergency based on some other Leftist twaddle, ie., gun violence, healthcare, etc.. Maybe one of our Leftist trolls can help me out, but I can’t think of a single Progressive national emergency that, unlike building a barrier to protect the border, wouldn’t involve forcing Americans to do something they don’t want or can’t afford to do. So exactly what would a “Climate Emergency” look like? Would it involve imprisoning anyone who doesn’t publicly support the Leftist climate agenda as some Leftists have suggested? Would it involve raising everyone’s taxes to pay for limitless wind turbines and solar farms? Would it involve seizing houses that aren’t “energy compliant”? Would it involve forcing everyone to give up their gasoline and diesel powered vehicles?

    • fieldingclaymore February 15, 2019 / 12:38 pm

      Building that wall via National Emergency is going to require eminent domain in Texas. That is going to go over fine.

      • Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 1:01 pm

        Fielding, let’s say, for the sake of argument, that you are a property owner with frontage on the Rio Grande River in Texas. Let’s say all of your neighbors for several miles on either side of you sign off on allowing a barrier to be built through their property, but you decline, thus funneling hundreds or thousands off illegals, human and drug traffickers, and other various malcontents through your property. Every day you take your skid loader out and clean up the tons of trash, used needles, human excrement, and the occasional dead body. You dig a giant pit to dispose of it all because the local landfill won’t take it. You’re cited by the local health department for creating a health menace.
        YOU might agree to that, but I expect most normal people wouldn’t.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 2:22 pm

        But you would refuse to sign off on allowing the wall to be built on your property because you don’t want to lose your access to the river.

        About then the Army Corps of Engineers would explain to you, slowly and with diagrams, how easy it will be to divert water from the river into a secure channel into your property so you will not only have as much access to water as you have at the time, it will be better access because of the design of the channel. And if you insist on being able to sit there on the banks and watch the mud and slurry ooze by, maybe they can build you a little gate with a big lock on it, and even buy you a bench.

        But it would be hard to pass up the thrill of lying in bed every night, afraid to go outside your own house on your own property, listening to illegals cross your own property. Better than TV!

    • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 3:01 pm

      You ask what a “Climate Emergency” national emergency might look like. It’s purely speculation, but if the precedent is set that a president can divert Congressionally mandated funding for other purposes at his (or her) whim, then one might imagine a president declaring an emergency and diverting all fossil fuel and coal related subsidies to renewable energy initiatives instead, regardless of how Congress specified that those subsidies be spent. This is akin to President Trump choosing to divert funding for a wall. Or a president could divert dairy farmer subsidies and use it to build wind turbines. Or pull money from the military budget to fund research in alternative energy on the justification that it would aid the military as well as address the so-called emergency.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 3:30 pm

        Is the president talking about diverting Congressionally mandated spending to something (the wall) other than what Congress directed?

        What, exactly?

        Are you saying that Congressionally mandated spending is the same thing as a subsidy? Always?

        Are you saying Trump is planning to shift subsidies from subsidized industries to building the wall? Which ones?

        You kind of drifted a little closer to reality there at the end, though you really tried hard to dodge the reality that border security IS national security and therefore in the purview of military spending. We scramble jets when foreign military aircraft approach our borders—border security, military arena of authority.

        Your knee-jerk spasm of silly IS purely speculative, coming from an anti-Trump, anti-border wall, pro-Dem policy such as what we have discussed earlier in this thread.

        If you don’t want a wall, just say so and defend your position. Defend the position, not just try to toss up a lot of possible, speculative, things that might make it harder to build.

        If you agree with the Dem positions, as outline above, on encouraging illegal immigration, say so and defend it.

        Just stop this silly juvenile game of trying to be a speed bump without having the spine to actually take a coherent stand on anything and then defend it.

      • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 3:54 pm

        My response was a good faith attempt to address a question posed by another poster. Do you always impute your own motivations into everything anyone else writes? Seems to be a pattern. And my response had nothing to do with defending a position. It was merely suggesting possible ways in which the use of presidential emergency declarations could be used in the future, following the precedent set by President Trump.

        But since you are interested in my positions:

        My position on Trump’s wall is that he said Mexico would pay for it, knowing full well that it would not. It was merely a cheap campaign device that apparently worked on many gullible people.

        My position also is that illegal immigration is not a national emergency. Border crossings are at historic lows.

        My position also is that President Trump is using the pretense of a national emergency to subvert the will of Congress because he was unable to get his way.

        My position also is that President Trump is diverting funds earmarked for other purposes in order to construct portions of his wall–and a very small portion at that.

        And lastly, my position is that President Trump has not made the case to the American people that a national emergency exists relative to illegal immigration, the evidence being that 66 percent of Americans say that President Trump should not declare a national emergency.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 4:53 pm

        my response had nothing to do with defending a position
        It never does. That was my point.

        All of what you call your "positions" are merely efforts to set up speed bumps. This what you do. You blather on about whatever is fermenting in your head, and toss it out here, but only because this seems to let you pretend this makes you an actual commenter on the political scene though all you are doing is complaining, about the same old thing. It is shallow, sophomoric and annoying.

        So you think that Trump's comments on Mexico paying for the wall were purposely bogus. OK, you have said so, many many times. But the question really is, what is your position on the need for a wall? The desirablity of a wall? Should we have one, or not? Not just a position of snarling at Trump, but something with a little less snarl and a little more content.

        You have taken the position that Border crossings are at historic lows. I don’t know where you get that “information” but it doesn’t matter. What matters is what you think about illegal border crossings—good or bad? Should be stopped, ignored or encouraged? And why?

        Your next two “positions” are basically the same—you don’t like Trump or anything he does, because of the way you view whatever he does.

        And your last “position”, if analyzed, seems to be that the president of the United States is supposed to ignore his oath of office, to protect and defend the United States and uphold its laws and its Constitution, if some polls say he has not convinced some arbitrary number of poll-responders that his analysis of the best way to do this is really the best approach. (Poll-responders who have not studied the legality of the decision, the reasoning behind it, or what it really means to the nation other than what CNN says it means.) He should take the temperature of the nation every time a decision has to be made.

        Evidently you really miss “leading from behind”.

        But what you do here is not present an actual position on any policy and then defend it, but just dart by tossing in snot-nuggets that, even if taken seriously, never actually MEAN anything.

        I can, and do define and defend my political philosophy. I can, and do, defend my stance on various policies and events.

        But you don’t. You just quibble. You just snipe. You seem to think that what matters is how you FEEL. So you don’t like Trump, and you feel that going into detail about the things he does that you don’t like is actually political commentary. No, it is just whining. Your “commentary” is vapid and lacking actual content, consisting only of venting sour feelings. You wait till someone says something and then snarl at it.

      • Retired Spook February 16, 2019 / 11:01 am

        The problem with your examples is, unlike the wall which has been effective at reducing illegal crossings up to 90+% everywhere it’s been built, there’s no proof that any of the things you mention will have the slightest effect on climate. Besides, there are consequences for messing around with the levels of atmospheric CO2.

      • rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 12:58 pm

        My point was to think of some hypothetical that could be invoked under the guise of a national emergency, following the precedent set by Trump to invoke a national emergency as a way to subvert the will of Congress. There are lots of things that could be done that would not be as draconian as your suggestions. As for the efficacy of any responses to climate change, I’ll trust the scientific community over Scott Adams.

      • Retired Spook February 16, 2019 / 3:20 pm

        There are lots of things that could be done that would not be as draconian as your suggestions.

        They’re not MY suggestions; they’re AOC’s suggestions, and to call them suggestions is being generous. If they’re passed into law, they’re WAY more than suggestions.

        As for the efficacy of any responses to climate change, I’ll trust the scientific community over Scott Adams.

        Name ONE member (not even a respected member — just an accredited member) of the scientific community that believes civilization could survive eliminating 100% of the CO2 from the atmosphere. In fact, name ONE member of the scientific community that has quantified the efficacy of ANY of the elements of the Green New Deal.

        And that begs another question; name one member of the scientific community who has made claims backed by something other than computer models that he or she knows with reasonable certainty the exact amount to reduce CO2 to yield the correct climate and temperature balance. What is the correct climate and temperature balance? Is it what it was around 1980 when this entire controversy started — about 4 years after many of the same scientists were suggesting blanketing the Arctic with soot to avoid a new ice age? There are lots of questions to be answered, and the scientific community doesn’t have a lot of definitive answers.

      • Amazona February 16, 2019 / 9:05 pm

        However, there IS a “scientific community” that denies the existence of biological gender, and believes that “not all women have vaginas and not all men have penises”.

        In other words, a “scientific community” is an illusion. There are millions of people who consider themselves scientists, and many the Left reveres as scientists who are not—–Bill Nye comes to mind. Many true scientists have serious disagreements with others. True science is always open to debate and contradiction and new information.

        Demagogic “science” is not.

  8. Cluster February 15, 2019 / 12:43 pm

    A civil war is on the horizon in the US and I can’t wait. The Democrats have gone so far left that it’s time to push them over the cliff and get rid of them permanently.

    God Bless Trump

  9. rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 3:14 pm

    First it was Paul Ryan as R2D2 (Casper) frantically tried to shift attention away from the abundant defects of the new Leftist heroine as her perkiness has been worn away enough to show her silliness, shallowness, ignorance and semi-literacy. Now Fielding is using the WayBack Machine to get back to, what? 2003?

    Let’s review. I asked who Sandy was, since you brought up “Sandy” multiple times in the previous 24 hours. You were referring to Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, who, to repeat, you brought up multiple times in the previous 24 hours. You then implied that her only qualification for office was that she was a perky bartender. I pointed out that her age and qualifications at the time of her election were virtually identification to Paul Ryan’s at the time of his first election to Congress. I don’t remember people claiming he wasn’t qualified to be a Congressman. But if you had said that he wasn’t qualified either, then at least you would have been consistent. Instead, you claimed that I am obsessed with both of them and have continued to post about AOC.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 4:04 pm

      Oh, get over yourself. Your nose is a little out of joint because only you and a few fellow travelers are still caught up in Alexandria Fever, and it just twists your panties when she is ridiculed. (Which, by the way, you are going to have to get used to.)

      If I had compared her to anyone else, then possibly there would be a basis for your Ryan comments. But I didn’t. What happened was that you were TRIGGERED by what I said, and that resulted in one of your brain farts that told you (incorrectly, by the way) that the best reaction to this was to come out with some cockamamie comments about someone else.

      OK, fine. That’s the way your brain works. Just don’t expect anyone to take you seriously when you go off on one of your defensive tangent/rants.

      SPOILER ALERT: I’m going to “bring up” AOC again. Rep. @AOC on Amazon: “We should not be giving away our infrastructure, our subway system, our schools, our teachers’ salaries, our firefighters’ budgets, to a company that has not shown good faith to New Yorkers. I guess it takes someone like Participation Trophy Barbie here to realize what no one else had: That when Amazon employees relocated to New York they would be GIVEN our infrastructure, our subway system, our schools, our teachers’ salaries, our firefighters’ budgets Who knew? Here everyone else, lacking the very very special insight of PTB, thought these people would be, like, you know, like PAYING to use the subways, and paying taxes to support the infrastructure, and paying taxes to pay for schools and teachers and firefighter “budgets”. Who realized that “someone” wanted to GIVE IT AWAY? Those “firefighter budgets”? They would have just been GONE. Given away. Just like that.

      And then there is the wonderful insight from a real live, from the tippy-top of her class (she DID have the DECENCY to get honors, you know!) ECONOMICS MAJOR that the city would be so much better off if it would take that $3 million in eventual overall tax breaks and just spend it, right now, on some really cool stuff that, like, you know, like MATTERS. Because when you are at the tippy-top of your econ class you know that not collecting money over a period of years is like, you know, like having it in your hand at that very moment.

      If you guys don’t want to entertain us, don’t give us a clown.

  10. rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 3:18 pm

    This is a post to remember:

    But moreover Fielding, none of us give a F**K what you, the courts, or your botoxed girlfriend Pelosi think, and we will do whatever we want to do. If you try and stop us, you will just incite more gun violence and we all know how much you hate gun violence.

    Apparently this is what passes for conservative political philosophy in the age of Trump: F**K you, we’ll do what we want, and if you don’t like it, we’ll shoot you.

    Question for the other conservatives here: Is that also your political philosophy? What happened to a limited federal government constrained by the enumerated powers of the Constipation, and the rule of law?

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 3:49 pm

      You are so pweshuss. Constipation So darling, so cute. So mature. So intellectual. Yet such a peek, unsavory as it is, into what passes for your political philosophy. Whenever you lift the lid on that cesspool, the same stench comes out.

      BTW, if you are going to lie about what someone has said, it’s downright stupid to do so immediately after citing a quote that doesn’t say what you claim it says.

      What the quote SAYS is that “none of US”—that is, people who post on this blog—“give a F**K about what you, etc think, and we won’t let you (plural you) dictate to us what we can and cannot do. And it will be up to YOU to incite more gun violence.

      It is also quite typical for a Lefty to try to slide one comment into another, as if they are one and the same. Cluster speaks for himself here, though he accurately reflects a common opinion on how much we value what you and your party have to say. This is a far cry from this personal opinion reflecting “conservative political philosophy in the age of Trump” even if you did have the integrity to refer to it honestly.

      But thanks for the ongoing class in the deficiencies of Leftist discourse.

      • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 3:59 pm

        No, among other things, Cluster said he didn’t “give a F**K” what the courts say and “we will do whatever we want,” and threatened violence in order to do so. He also said a Civil War “is on the horizon.” A Civil War over people who post on this blog? I don’t think so. I think his meaning was quite clear. He wasn’t just talking about a couple of posters on B4V.

        Is this also your political philosophy?

      • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 4:00 pm

        And of course, Cluster is welcome to clarify his meaning. That might be more instructive than Amazona spin.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 4:27 pm

        Is this also your political philosophy? Oh, give it a rest, R whatever. This coy simpering eyelash-fluttering effort to score some kind of debate point is pathetically silly. Yes, I know you love it. Yes, I know you depend on it. Your incessant whining is annoying. And stupid. Annoyingly stupid.

        Cluster did NOT threaten violence. He commented that the Left could incite violence if it/you so chose, in response to being ignored. He said it. I pointed it out and corrected you. But you like the taste of this lie so much you will bring it up over and over again so you can chew on it.

        We have often commented here on the Left’s efforts to create a new civil war, as it/you keep doubling down on your divisiveness and efforts to fracture our society into splinters and then pitch those groups against each other. You did it with race, pitting blacks against whites in blatant race-baiting and incitement to hatred and violence. Then you tried pitting Hispanics against whites, with less success because Hispanics tend to be more integrated into American society and less, shall we say, gullible. You did it with gender, stirring up female hatred of men, and then when that was losing steam you veered off into creating new genders you could sic on each other. You created a whole new and unneeded homosexual lobby, and have worked tirelessly to keep emotions stirred up there. You have always used class warfare to generate societal conflicts and that has been woven into the other various divisive narratives you have concocted and promoted.

        This has all been building for years, escalating in the past few years but building on the foundations you erected a long time ago.

        Then you have tried to weave all of these hate groups into a unified hate group, targeting about half of the nation, pitting the Left in its myriad identities and disguises against the half of the country that voted for Trump. This drumbeat has been incessant, unyielding, as you have worked tirelessly to invent an Other, promote hatred of that Invented Other, and solicit violence against those perceived as being part of that Invented Other.

        So you have your Hate Mobs, targeting people and their families, encouraged by members of Congress to harass and victimize people for their connections to this designated enemy.

        Everything the Left has done in the past couple of decades but rising to a crescendo of coordinated effort under Obama has been directed at dividing this nation into many hate groups and then uniting them against those who voted for Trump. And if inciting hatred and violence in half of the nation against the other half is not a recipe for civil war, I don’t know what is. But it is coming from the Left, and directed toward the Right.

        So stop with the fake Big Eye protestations of innocence and ignorance, stop with the wholly crazy claim that all this discord and incitement to hatred and violence is coming from the Right (which of you trolls just referred to the TEA Party in one of your comments?) and just own this effort, because it is YOURS. It is what the Left has been doing, and it is what you are trying to support when you infest blogs like this with your toxic hate-oriented nonsense.

        What is bad for the United States is good for the Left.
        What is good for the United States is bad for the Left.

        And the upcoming civil war, which by the way does not have to be fought with guns or violence though the Left prefers as much violence as it can muster, will essentially be between people fighting to preserve the United States and those of you trying to destroy it. Actually, I think this war has begun, with the recent Dem legislation being the Fort Sumpter of the conflict. The Dem Party has officially declared war on the sovereignty and very identity of the United States as a moral nation based on the concept of the rule of law.

      • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 5:17 pm

        Actually, I think this war has begun, with the recent Dem legislation being the Fort Sumpter of the conflict.

        Which recent legislation is that?

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 7:01 pm

        More porous borders with protection for child trafficking and criminals, to start with, and Dem state legislatures not only legalizing but celebrating infanticide. But hey, it’s only been a month. They are freaked out by an actual vote on the Green New Deal because they know it will go down in flames and want it just talked about ceaselessly with a lot of cheerleading from the Spirit Squad for as long as possible.

        Don’t you pay attention?

        In the meantime, Colorado Dems have voted to steal the votes of approximately half of Colorado voters by legislating some cockamamie law (that will no doubt be shut down by any rational court) ruling that the state’s entire electoral vote count will go to whoever is deemed to win the national popular vote. And Denver, after decriminalizing public defecation and urination, after the state became the Drug Capital of the Nation for legalizing pot, is now pushing for a legal public injection site for drug addicts.

      • Retired Spook February 15, 2019 / 5:40 pm

        I think she’s referring to the budget deal. Rush Limbaugh explained it in detail this afternoon.

        RUSH: Let me share with you some of the things in this budget deal that illustrate the point that I think they are in here specifically to embarrass the president. They are in here to be publicized. I just want to reiterate again that I firmly think the point of all of this is you. I think the targets of this are you who support Trump. You are supposed to conclude that supporting Trump’s a waste of time, because Trump is never gonna get anything done, that he’s so disliked, that he’s so disrespected by respectable people in Washington that no matter what…

        If what he wants is the absolute best thing for national security or for the economy, it’s still not gonna happen. Nothing’s gonna happen until Trump is gone. Nothing’s gonna happen until you stop supporting Donald Trump. I have no doubt that that’s what this is. Whatever else it may be, that is clearly a part of it. Try this headline: “Border Security Bill Provides Aid, Buses, Legal Shields to” illegal Immigrants. This budget deal spells out all of the protections Congress is extending to illegals.

        It explains and spells out all of the things the administration cannot do, that Homeland Security cannot do, that ICE cannot do in apprehending illegals. “The spending includes [money] to aid and feeds [illegal immigrants] … as well as [money] to bus the migrants from the border to pro-migration non-profits: ‘To facilitate these additional requirements, the conferees,” meaning members of Congress in the House and Senate, “provide $192,700,000 above the request to include $128,000,000 for contract medical professionals, $40,200,000 for increased consumable commodities such as food, infant formula and diapers.’ …

        “The bill adds $220 million to build new border reception centers for illegal migrants and asylum migrants,” meaning we’re gonna be building new recreation centers and say, “Hey, come on in!” Reception centers for illegal immigrants! “Border officials are also directed to bus [illegal immigrants] from reception centers directly to the welcome centers run by pro-migration aid groups…” Are you getting a flavor for this? Now, also keep in mind that this has more than one purpose. Obviously, the purpose here is to jam Trump, but it’s also to jam us, we who voted for Trump.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 7:07 pm

        I would love to have some conservative legislators support a new bill deleting the most egregious elements of this one, so each element has to stand alone and be voted on, on its specific merits, to be defended by its supporters.

        Who is in charge of when all this will start?

      • rgrg2 February 15, 2019 / 7:11 pm

        Spook, that was my assumption as well. I guess I don’t see how the budget deal is “Dem legislation” considering that Democrats do not control the Senate or the White House. Sure, there were some elements supported by Democrats–that is the nature of compromise. But clearly they cannot enact any legislation themselves.

        I guess what some of us find perplexing is that if the state of the border is a national emergency, why didn’t Congress fund appropriate spending when it was entirely controlled by Republicans? The Democrats have only had control of the House for what, five weeks? Republicans had two years. The notion that there is an emergency is also undermined by Trump today declaring, “I don’t need to do this.”

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:40 pm

        Thank you, R? for your reminder of the Left’s dependence on Identity Politics, and your inability to recognize anything else.

        A letter after the name means something when it comes to committee chairs, etc. but when it comes to actual political philosophy it is, as we have learned, meaningless. Sadly, there are people with an R after their names who are just as befuddled as the average Dem, just as unable to grasp the basics of political commitment. And sadly there are some who fall victim to the same irrational hate-based bias against Trump.

        I’m a Bronco fan, so I will refer to Payton Manning, a truly great quarterback. If he had been hired through an election and most of the other Broncos were ticked off that he won and refused to back him, there is no way the team would have won. If the other team members did not have the character to override their personal gripes for the good of the team, the Broncos would have had some pretty rough seasons, and no Super Bowl triumph. Trump is in the same situation—-too many who wear his team jersey have ulterior motives or just the same character weakness as the opposition.

        It is easy for the simple minded to believe that failure to have team support means the leader is defective or wrong, but in fact it can just as easily be that the other guys are the ones with the character defects. The proof is in the pudding. This leader, Trump, is fighting to defend the nation and our national sovereignty. What are his opponents fighting for? Nothing more significant being able to deny him a victory, uncaring that this would be victory for the United States, not just for the man Donald Trump.

        They/you are so petty, so unbelievably shallow and spiteful, that you don’t care what damage is done to the nation or its citizens if you can claim that you defeated Trump. So they/you are hung up on petty details, such as who did or did not do what and when, when the real issues are what really matter. That is, women being raped and forced into prostitution, children being used as pawns and trafficked back and forth across the border, vicious criminals strolling into our nation with the blessing and protection of the Dems, the overloading of our support systems here in the United States meaning that citizens are paying, and national security so full of holes it is in severe danger. All that matters to the Left is the joy of sticking Trump in the eye with a spite stick. The very real suffering of tens of thousands of people is a price the Left is willing to pay to be able to have that shallow, petty, spiteful “victory”.

        So you keep obsessing over who did or did not do what or when, and why you think this matters. You and your kind cannot hide the fact that all you care about is hurting a man, a single man, because for some sick pathetic reason this has taken precedence in your sad little minds as more important than anything in the world. While you are congratulating yourselves on what you think of as a victory OVER THE PRESIDENT we will be looking at its cost to the nation, and we will also be waiting to see the eventual outcome.

        Because the outcome will be that we will get a wall. And the outcome is what matters. At the end, the game playing and the obstructionism and the obsessive hatreds of you on the Left will be of little import, because the southern border will be more secure. We can deal with the details later. And when your temper tantrums are over, most of America will look at the results, and will remember the priority of the Left—-Stop Trump no matter how many suffer or how many die.

        When the wall is built, the whimpering of you Lefties that it wasn’t built the “right way” or some such twaddle will be seen as what it is—-pathetic whimpering.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:42 pm

        Who wrote the bill? Who sponsored it? Who said it would be this or nothing? Who refused to compromise?

        Don’t try to play that stupid dishonest “It’s not a Dem bill” game here. It has radically Leftist fingerprints all over it, and just because some squishies got sucked into it doesn’t change the identity of who wrote it.

      • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 10:52 pm

        What’s your point? Trump DIDN’T need to do this. He could have sat back and watched you and your kind further destroy the country, and just thrown up his hands and said “Nothing I could do, Nancy won.” So he was right. He DIDN’T need to do this—-unless he takes his job seriously, takes his oath of office seriously, takes his responsibility as the chief executive officer of the nation seriously, takes his role as Commander in Chief responsible for national security seriously.

        He could have acted like a Democrat, he could have pulled a Pontius Pilate and washed his hands of the whole sordid mess and said well, nothing I can do if Congress has spoken.

        But instead he just did an end run around the speed bumps, the obstructionists, the anti-American Left, and left you all with egg on your collective faces—-and no, that is not a pun but it IS a play on words, as you are all about a collectivist society and form of government.

        And now the Left OWNS this ugly, unAmerican bill that encourages people to break our laws, ties the hands of those who try to enforce it, opens the borders to vicious murderers and protects and rewards human trafficking and sexual slavery. You and a few spineless RINOS who will have to answer for their weakness. And soon you will also own the bizarre and insane Green New Deal as well, just as you own the disgusting spectacle of ghouls celebrating their passage of a law to allow infanticide.

        We’re just sitting back watching you dig yourselves deeper and deeper into the sewer. Where, clearly, you belong.

  11. casper3031 February 15, 2019 / 6:20 pm

    What a day. First Trump signs a budget giving him a fraction of the money he wanted for his unnecessary vanity wall. He also can’t seem to get Mexico to pay for it. At least he didn’t give us another shutdown.
    Then in a rambling announcement in which he sounded like someone with dementia, he declared a national emergency for a situation that he could have addressed anytime in the last two years, but didn’t. After declaring a national emergency he did what you would expect him to do. He jetted off to Florida for a weekend of golf.
    Meanwhile Ann Coulter, who I Disagree with 99% of the time tweets this :
    “No, the goal of a national emergency is for Trump to scam the stupidest people in his base for 2 more years.”
    The good news is that he has the people on BFV covering his butt.

    • Amazona February 15, 2019 / 7:04 pm

      More pointless whining, about TRUMP. Ho hum.
      It seems that Cappy is upset not at the state of emergency but the timing. Waiting till a bipartisan agreement could not be reached just ticked him off. He is also so dumb he thinks Trump caused the shutdown. Oh, well. At least he is among his own kind now, and not tainting the minds of innocent young children.

      One thing we learned a long time ago about Casper is that if something is downright mean and nasty, he will love it. Hence his new fandom for Ann Coulter. Clearly his sensitivity to dementia does not extend to her. Or what he sees in his mirror.

  12. Cluster February 15, 2019 / 7:42 pm

    So R2D2 is confused. Not a surprise considering he belongs to a party that can’t tell the difference between men and women, so allow me to clarify.

    First of all R2, I speak for myself. Conservatives are independent people with independent thought. I know that must seem strange to you but try not to think my opinions are reflective of the collective. That only applies with people like you.

    Re: the violence. It is your progressive base that is initiating the violence and the possible Civil War. I just plan to finish it if it gets to that point. And by initiating I am speaking of the GOP softball players who were shot at and wounded by a Bernie supporter. I speak of the conservatives who have been beaten on the streets of Portland by ANTIFA, and I speak of the policemen who have been killed by Black Lives Matter. These actions have enraged conservatives like myself and we are wholly prepared to end it.

    Re: winning at all costs, and again this is just another progressive Democrat game that we are now prepared to play and win. I don’t give a F**K what some judge says because all we have to do is keep shopping judges until we find the right one and WE WILL DO IT. Judges are a dime a dozen. But more importantly, people like Nancy Pelosi have past their expiration date and should never be listened to again. Democrats, establishment Republicans, lobbyists, and the Deep State bureaucrats have done serious damage to this country and Americans like myself are calling it out and prepared to remedy it.

    Now run along and play with your gender fluid friends.

  13. JeremiahTMM February 15, 2019 / 8:24 pm
  14. Cluster February 16, 2019 / 9:27 am

    So R2D2, no snappy comeback? I guess it’s your turn now – do you support the Green New Deal? Do you support Blacks Lives Matters crusade against police? Do you support ANTIFA’s violent rages against conservatives?

    Is this your political philosophy chief? How about the anti semite Omar, and economically illiterate AOC? Or how about woman abuser Keith Ellison? Do you support all of them 100%?.

    Don’t be shy and don’t worry about the Russians. I know they can be scary

  15. Cluster February 16, 2019 / 9:30 am

    I guess what some of us find perplexing is that if the state of the border is a national emergency, why didn’t Congress fund appropriate spending when it was entirely controlled by Republicans? The Democrats have only had control of the House for what, five weeks? Republicans had two years.

    You really don’t pay attention do you? Paul Ryan was an establishment Republican who had no interest in securing the border. We pointed that out several times …. try and pay attention.

    And through reconstructed trade deals, you can be rest assured that Mexico indirectly pays for the wall. It’s not complicated but you and every other “journalist” in the fake media still can’t connect the dots on that. You have the economic prowess of AOC.

  16. Cluster February 16, 2019 / 10:06 am

    Another day, another lecture from a know it all progressive. This time it’s “movie star” Harrison Ford, and he must be smart right?

    “We are the only member of the animal kingdom whose behavior, whose hubris can destroy the planet,”

    Well what about the cows? Why does AOC want to kill all the cows if they are harmless? And why are we always 10 years away from disaster?

    “In ten years, it may be too late.”

    In 2000 Gore predicted we only had 10 years left. And do progressives care about the climate world wide? Or just here in America?

    • Retired Spook February 16, 2019 / 11:05 am

      I read this yesteray. Another actor that I’ve always admired and respected that I no longer have to waste money going to see.

  17. Retired Spook February 16, 2019 / 12:55 pm

    How afraid are we of AOC? Not Very,

    • Cluster February 16, 2019 / 1:08 pm

      Bringing the Green New Deal up for a vote is political mastery. Get them all on record and show the country their true authoritarian tendencies.

  18. rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 12:59 pm

    So R2D2, no snappy comeback?

    I thought you didn’t give a F**K what people like me say. lol

    • Cluster February 16, 2019 / 1:04 pm

      I don’t but your mindless rebuttals are always amusing ….

  19. Cluster February 16, 2019 / 2:09 pm

    I will leave this here with the comment – and they wonder why we don’t want to compromise.

    On Joy Reid’s MSNBC show today, guest Elie Mystal called supporters of President Trump “idiots” and “zombies,” saying “we have to stop them from infecting everybody else.” He elaborated on his ugly message at the end of his rant, saying: “we have to cauterize the wound that is Donald Trump and his supporters, and worry about the people who aren’t infected yet.”

    • rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 2:44 pm

      Speaking of name-calling, I present Ann Coulter: “Look, the only national emergency is that our president is an idiot.” Which is hilarious considering that Trump shut down the government because Coulter made fun of him.

      • Cluster February 16, 2019 / 5:58 pm

        I am with you on Coulter. I think something’s wrong with her. She’s obsessed … and maybe possessed lol

        I think the Ryan quote is fake though. We all know that Trump was a complete amateur in his first year or so and it took him awhile to figure out who was authentic and who was not in DC. Sadly he learned that most people are not authentic, or genuine, and he trusted them. He knows better now and with what he has already accomplished in his first two years, and what he will be able to do in the next 6 years, he will be historically regarded as the best President in this country’s history. He genuinely cares about this country and it’s people and Constitution. He is a billionaire who had politicians in his back pocket for years …. he did not have to do this and could have lived out his life in the lap of luxury and wealth and adoration. But he chose to lead this country and in the process he has had his character maligned and his reputation tarnished and yet he still moves forward ….. he is the most authentic politician I have ever known.

      • Amazona February 16, 2019 / 8:58 pm

        … Trump shut down the government because Coulter made fun of him….

        They “know” so many things that only exist in the fever swamp of their hate-driven imaginations……

    • rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 2:52 pm

      And speaking of Paul Ryan, he tried to give Trump what he wanted:

      Building a wall on the southern border was a cornerstone of Trump’s presidential campaign, and even before Democrats took control of the House, he had stewed over his inability to make it a reality. The tension came to a head in a March meeting in the White House residence, when Trump learned that his aides had secured only $1.6 billion for border fencing in an omnibus spending bill.

      Trump fumed to then-House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) that the funding was a fraction of what he would need and threatened not to sign the measure, according to two people with knowledge of the conversation.

      “We gave you what you wanted!” Ryan shot back, the people said.

      Swearing profusely, Trump said that was not true and asked Ryan who had relayed such a message. Ryan said it was Trump’s own aides who negotiated the bill.

      Ah, the master negotiator at work.

      • Retired Spook February 16, 2019 / 3:29 pm

        I know you haven’t been here that long, but we generally provide links for quotes to provide context. I’m sensing that you didn’t because your source is questionable. It certainly sounds questionable.

      • Cluster February 16, 2019 / 6:31 pm

        So R2D2 smugly says, “the master negotiator at work” ….

        I think anyone with half a brain would objectively look at his dealings over the last couple of years with North Korea, China, Mexico, and Russia (yes, Russia) and easily conclude that he has advanced America’s agenda with each of these countries more so than any other President. NK has not launched any missiles in over a year and is at the table, China is currently paying tariffs on steel and begging to restructure, Mexico agreed to rework NAFTA to our benefit, and we are currently choking the economic life out of Russia by sanctions and by increasing our crude oil supplies and exports. Besides, you don’t get to the level Trump is at without a fair amount of skill at negotiating, and his book was read by millions. How many people read your book?

        You know other than progressives being “outraged” and running from crisis to crisis, things are going pretty well.

      • Amazona February 17, 2019 / 11:24 am

        Cluster, you are talking about facts and facts have no place in the mind of a dedicated troll and hater. Facts are alien and undesirable and hit the fact immune system of such as rgrg2. In the presence of facts that are not part of the narrative, one of two things (if we are lucky, only one) will occur. The first is deflection—scurrying to try to shift the narrative to somewhere the troll has stashed something he thinks is significant ammunition—-or just upping the ante and screeching the same lies louder.

        (So you have facts backing up the theory that Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is a mental lightweight and ignorant as well? Well……PAUL RYAN !!!!!)

        Everything you say about the successes of the Trump administration—-and it is a very partial list—-is true. And to such as rgrg2, IT DOESN’T MATTER.

        All he wants is to emote. All he wants is to spew his feelings out onto us, and express how much he hates Donald Trump and by extension anyone who doesn’t hate Donald Trump. There is this huge backup of emotional sewage that he simply HAS to let out, and for him this is a nearly orgasmic release, it gives him so much pleasure.

        Facts can’t compete with that.

      • Amazona February 16, 2019 / 9:00 pm

        What IS it with you and Ryan? He didn’t write, he didn’t call? You sound like an obsessed rejected lover, or wannabe lover. Get over it.

      • rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 10:15 pm

        How many people read your book?

        I haven’t had a book ghostwritten for me, so you got me there. By the same token, I haven’t bankrupted six of my businesses (or any businesses for that matter). I haven’t bilked thousands of people out of their life savings (or any people, for that matter). I haven’t had to pay a $25 million settlement (or any settlement) because my business was a fraud. I haven’t had the state shut down my foundation because it was fraudulent. None of my business associates are convicted felons, nor is my personal lawyer. I haven’t had to pay people off to prevent them from talking about me. Shall I go on?

      • Amazona February 17, 2019 / 10:36 am

        Thanks for the update on your dependence on and obsession with Identity Politics.

        Yes, we get it. You hate Donald Trump. Got it. And you are not alone. There are a lot of people who simply cannot, or will not, get over his admittedly sordid history, who obsess about it, who can’t stop carrying on about it. It’s the tabloid approach to politics.

        If Donald Trump were doing any of those things today, I would feel differently about him. But I know that throughout the history of humanity, people have been real jerks, have done bad things, and at some point in their lives looked back and said “I don’t want to be that person any more” and have changed. And many of those have changed radically, dedicating their lives to doing good works, serving their country, helping others or, more commonly, just becoming better people in their lives and their families and their communities.

        Just as there are a lot of people who reject this, who refuse to accept it because their own personal psyches are wired to focus on, demand and cling to the ugliest in other people, there are millions who understand that people can and do change and not only accept it but admire it. That’s nothing new. The history of humanity has also been one of personal choice, of choosing to have minds voluntarily locked into the Dark Side of surliness, hatred, distrust, grievances, judgementalism, grudges and resentment, just as many more (thankfully) have chosen to be happy, to see the best in people, to accept the frailties of humanity and appreciate and respect those who have overcome them.

        And there are people like you, rgrg2, who not only choose to have a mind that clings lovingly to the worst in other people but who is driven to go online and proudly announce this, to strut around waving your flag of hatred and intolerance and need to literally OBSESS about what you hate in others, to loudly express it over and over again in what appears to be an uncontrollable need to not just wallow in it internally but to publish it. Most people with an internal need to judge and to hate, with an internal inability give up whatever strange satisfaction they get from dwelling upon the ugliest and most hateful things they can imagine in others, just do so internally or maybe expose their darkness to a few friends and family.

        But you, rgrg2, and a few others, are so controlled by your raging need to express this inner core of loathing and contempt and hatred and resentment that you actually work at it. You make the effort to go online, you seek sites like this, and then you spew your personality disorders like sewage spurting from a pipe. This apparently gives you great pleasure, as you do it so often.

        Some with this personality disorder skulk in the shadows of the internet to leap out and attack others for their appearance, for example, savaging people whose looks provide a platform for this seething hatred to spew out. Some, like you, rgrg2, need to pretend that you are really expressing political commentary. Perhaps this allows you to pretend, at least to yourself, that your obsessions are not signs of mental and emotional unbalance but are really legitimate observations of the political climate of the country. But that pretense falls apart when anyone looks at what you deposit here so proudly, as it is always absolutely, totally, devoid of any actual political content.

        It’s all, always, completely about how much you hate someone. It’s all, always, completely about YOU and how YOU FEEL about other people. When you cite a political act or decision, it is only to try to support and validate your hatred and malice. And in spite of the many words you deposit, there is never anything of value in any of them. Never a thought, never an analysis. Only a sad, pathetic shrieking of LOOK AT ME AND LOOK AT HOW MUCH I CAN HATE.

      • rgrg2 February 16, 2019 / 10:16 pm

        Link for quote about Trump and Ryan here

        Not a valid link//Moderator

      • Amazona February 17, 2019 / 10:07 am

        That’s OK. Not everyone is so obsessed with Paul Ryan.

      • Cluster February 16, 2019 / 11:32 pm

        R2D2, enough about the Clinton’s and Obama’s. how do you feel about Trump?

  20. Amazona February 17, 2019 / 2:31 pm

    GREENGREENGREEN. It’s the mantra of the New American Left, a chant taken up by a lot of hangers-on and wannabes who just want to be part of what they foolishly think is the Next Cool Thing. It’s made a media superstar out of a bouncy little newcomer from New York, who oh-so-earnestly “explains” it all—except how it would work.

    So how do you “go green”? Why, it’s so easy, even a bartender could figure it out. The first and biggest step is to stop using fossil fuels. What is a “fossil fuel”. Well, it’s something that is mined from the earth after developing there for eons from the remnants of ancient life forms—ie: “fossils”. So that includes oil, natural gas and coal.

    Easy peasy. Just wave that cute little magic wand and Shazaam! We have replaced everything that runs on fossil fuels by burning them (the very tippy-top of ickiness) with really cool stuff that doesn’t need to burn fossil fuels to run. That would be, almost exclusively, things that run on electricity. Because electricity is clean, and green. It doesn’t smell or emit visible ick that anyone can tell is POISONING THE ENVIRONMENT. It’s just there! Look—you plug into this little doohickey on the wall, and electricity comes out! What’s so hard to understand about that?

    And this is where the cheerleaders stop. They have analyzed a problem—-pollution from fossil fuel use—-and they have solved it—replace all those fuel-burning whatevers with whatevers that use electricity instead. Done. Time to shop for some new Birkenstocks and have a nice cuppa herb tea.

    But wait! Where does electricity actually COME from? And how can you use it to make your car go? Well, right now most electricity is generated by using natural gas or coal. Uh-oh. There is nuclear generation of electricity but that just sounds so…..dirty. And scary. So let’s just go with solar generated electricity, and wind power. They are really clean. And green.

    Wind power is really clean and those big blades lazily spinning around are really pretty so we should use it—but but not near anywhere people live because they make a seriously annoying noise, or in remote places where people don’t live if they are sacred places like “wilderness areas”, or in the view corridors of really important people like the Kennedys. And wind power does mean looking the other way at the slaughter of millions of birds who fly into those big wind turbine blades and are killed. And doesn’t the equipment used to generate electricity from wind power use a lot of rare earths and hard-to-find materials? Pshaw. We like it because it isn’t as icky as burning those nasty old fossil fuels. Think about it—which would you rather have plopped in the middle of your dining room table—-a nice shiny magnet, or a dish of stinky oil? Really!

    And what about solar? It doesn’t make any noise at all! But what goes into making solar panels? And how is that energy then stored? Or transmitted? Definitely don’t put large solar arrays anywhere where anyone can ever see them, even deep into the desert where there Is so much sunlight.

    And most definitely do NOT try to put in new transmission lines to get the power from wherever it is allowed to be generated to the homes that need it, including those charging stations for those cars owned by people who never want to use them to actually go anywhere.

    Sounds like a lot of mining and processing of materials to even make those solar panels, using equipment that is powered by burning fossil fuels. Even the big wind turbines require things like huge magnets, made from rare earths.

    Oh. Well, just make new equipment! Where? How? Everything would have to be redesigned and then manufacturing would have to be redesigned. How would the material get out of the ground? By using that cool new electricity-powered mining equipment, silly! Who would pay for this total revamping of these industries? Just go to the Treasury and ask for the money, silly! Who’s going to pay for recycling all that old equipment? Haven’t you been paying attention? THE TREASURY!

    OK. We have leapfrogged into Happyland where all the machinery is powered by electricity, equipment made by equipment evidently manufactured using fairy dust for power. Why? Well, to stop damage to the environment, of course. So then we look at what is necessary to get the materials needed for making solar panels, lenses, batteries, etc. and we find that getting these materials requires massive mining efforts followed by massive processing and refining efforts, many of them pretty damaging to the environment.

    The basic rare earth mining process in the Black Hills would start by removing rock from the ground and crushing it in a nearby building. That gravel would be trucked to a processing center in Upton, ground into a powder and leached with acid to dissolve the rock and separate impurities such as iron, manganese and aluminum.

    All 17 rare earth elements, some in larger quantities than others, would then exist in super fine powder, Pickarts said. At that point, the company must find a buyer who would then separate and individually process the elements.

    Lots of digging, lots of giant holes in the earth to get relatively small amounts of usable product, processing requiring crushing and grinding and use of acids, just to get to a stage where the resulting material is in a form that can then be further processed to be usable. SOOO much better than what we are doing today with oil and gas!

    What happens to the acids and other chemicals used to process the raw ores?

    So don’t get these rare earths from China. Why don’t we get them right here? It’s not as if mining and processing them would be nearly as icky as drilling for and refining gas and oil.

    “In terms of full-blown capacity, Molycorp [in California] does have its light rare-earth separation facility, but other than that, there is really nothing in North America,” Hatch, the industry consultant, said.

    “The capability to process and convert [rare earths] from minerals into compounds that go into high-tech equipment is the key bottleneck not just in the U.S., but also the world,” he said.

    “If a Molycorp executive found a jar of magic fairy dust under his chair that would make every piece of equipment work perfectly, the company could eventually pay off its debt,” said Jon Hykawy, president of materials consultancy Stormcrow Capital.

    None of this even addresses the foolishness of demanding that we all use electric cars, because when the elites never want to drive more than 100 miles why should anyone else be able to? They should take trains, instead. Instead of loading three kids, a dog, a cooler of snacks, gifts for the family and clothes for a week at Grandma’s into a car for a six hour drive, they should schlep it all ten or twenty miles to the nearest train station, fit their trip into a time schedule for the train, manhandle it all onto the train, endure many many stops along the way, and ten hours later figure out how to get it all from the station to Grandma’s house. Why? Because those at the tippy-top of the massively powerful Central Authority think it is “more moral”.

    And what would a Lefty have to say to all this” But……PAUL RYAN !!…

    • Retired Spook February 18, 2019 / 12:45 am

      I read this twice and laughed even harder the second time.

  21. Amazona February 17, 2019 / 2:47 pm

    Last week I wanted to go into Denver to attend the big home and garden show. Not wanting to deal with downtown traffic and parking my big pickup, I decided to take the Light Rail. So I found a convenient station in south Denver, near where I would like to do shopping later, and looked up the Light Rail info. The trip from that station to the convention center was 8 miles, or 52 minutes.

    Yeah, I had to go back and read that again, too. I didn’t even bother to look up the fare, knowing it would not be cheap. So I drove into Denver, parked my truck across the street from the convention center for about what I think it would have cost me to take the train, and was completely out of town when I left in half the time it would have taken me to get back to where I had parked to take the nearly hour long train trip that would have dropped me off about 150 feet from where I parked.

    The Left has been pushing, very very hard, the development of a light rail system between Denver and the ski areas west of the city. The figures show an average cost of $30-$40 each way. This is supposed to make sense. Yet a significant number of people who go to those ski areas every weekend, or nearly every weekend, have condos there. They take the kids, the dogs, clothes and groceries with them, and from door to door probably pay less than $20 for gas—for everything. And while there, they can go out to dinner, they can shop, they can go to other ski areas with the convenience of having snacks and extra clothes and equipment in their cars in the parking lots.

    But the Leftist elites, to “solve” the problem of heavy weekend traffic on I-70 west of Denver, have decided that people will pay something like $150.00 per family, each way, for the inconvenience of not having transportation when they get to the ski areas, for the hassle of having to haul their skis and stuff from the station to the ski area, for not being able to take their pets to their condos, and for the cost and inconvenience of having to find some way to get to and from stores and restaurants from their condos. And, of course, to tap into that ever-overflowing Treasury to pay for the multi-billion dollar boondoggle.

    For the same amount, they could develop a southern route to the west, over two smaller mountain passes, splitting the traffic and providing more than one major east-west corridor instead of the single bottleneck that exists now and having a long-term workable plan that would benefit commercial traffic such as trucking as well as ski area visitors. But it can’t be worked into a “GREEN” narrative, so it is not considered.

  22. Retired Spook February 18, 2019 / 1:04 am

    From the YCMTSU file, in spite of admitting on national television that eliminating air travel would be detrimental to Hawaii, and that rail service to the Aloha State is unlikely in the foreseeable future, that nitwit Hawaii Sentaor Maize Hirono saw fit to be a co-sponsor of the New Green Deal Resolution.

    • Cluster February 18, 2019 / 8:25 am

      It’s hard to believe what any progressive Democrat is saying right now …. they have lost their minds. Joe Scarborough just proclaimed as a matter of fact that MAGA is in fact an effort to “Keep America white”, and other panelists nod in agreement while Richard Haas declares this national emergency a constitutional crisis completely ignoring the history of the act.

      They have nothing positive to offer the country.

      • Amazona February 18, 2019 / 10:49 am

        Well, to a professional hysteric I supposed a “constitutional question” WOULD be perceived as a constitutional CRISIS. It’s all about the drama.

        But….if Joey is insisting that Make America Great Again depends on keeping it white, isn’t that stating a belief that whiteness is responsible for America’s former greatness? Just asking…….

      • Cluster February 18, 2019 / 1:03 pm

        … isn’t that stating a belief that whiteness is responsible for America’s former greatness?

        OOOHHH Damn … great observation

    • casper3031 February 18, 2019 / 9:11 am

      Since there is nothing in the Green New Deal that eliminates air travel, it’s no surprise Hirono would co-sponsor it.

      • Amazona February 18, 2019 / 10:32 am

        Since there is nothing in the Green New Deal that says in short words “no more airplanes forever” Casper can’t see the intent to stop domestic air travel. Making airplanes unnecessary and replacing them with railroads was just, you know, a passing comment with absolutely no meaning.

        Casper, what do you have to say about my analysis of the GND’s proposal for getting rid of fossil fuels?

      • Retired Spook February 18, 2019 / 1:19 pm

        Wind or solar powered airplanes? Just spit balling here. It seems pretty logical that eliminating fossil fuels would, by necessity, eliminate or transform all devices currently powered by fossil fuels. I realize that’s a pretty complex thought for Casper to grasp. An even more complex thought is, where is the electricity going to come from to charge all those hundreds of millions of new electric vehicles? I don’t think it’s a stretch to say our electrical usage is going to at least double, probably more, while at the same time within 10 years we’re going to eliminate coal, natural gas and nuclear which currently make up 83% of our electrical generation. The math is NOT complex.

    • Amazona February 18, 2019 / 10:46 am

      Casper keeps whining that we conservatives “fear” Sandy and her mob, but it is clear that it’s her own party that she has trembling in their boots and afraid to cross her.

    • Amazona February 18, 2019 / 10:44 am

      I don’t know if you read any other political sites but in the comments section it is obvious that the trolls have received a script that includes the claim that illegal border crossings are fewer than 50% of what they used to be. This claim is popping up everywhere.

      Of course, there is no source for the figure, or if it represents actual bodies crossing the border, people actually arrested while crossing the border, or people who illegally crossed the border and then filled out comment cards on which they admitted to illegally crossing the border. If the numbers are so much lower why did the Dems insist on a few hundred million dollars to build Welcome Centers and other facilities for them?

      Or maybe it’s BECAUSE the figures are down, and the Dems need bait to get them back up again.

      In any case, the official script is now that illegal crossings are down and 90% of all illegal drugs come through other ports of entry.

      • Retired Spook February 18, 2019 / 11:46 am

        There’s an old saying, “we don’t know what we don’t know,” and that applies to illegal immigrants crossing the border as well as illegal drugs crossing the border. I have actually seen data that shows illegal crossings in 2000 were more than double what they are now, but that back then the vast majority were sent back. Hence using children as shields. In fact I read in the last couple days, maybe from a link here, that children are actually being “recycled,” attaching themselves (or more likely, being attached) to one group of adults after another. We’re running out of detention centers, and more and more illegals are simply being released into the U.S. until the date of their asylum hearings, the vast majority never returning for the hearing.

        Second, we have no idea the quantity of drugs crossing the border at other than ports of entry, so to say that the majority come through a port of entry is, at best, speculation. Interestingly, the very day that this “drugs coming through ports of entry” meme really started to ramp up on the Left, the Border Patrol seized a large amount of marijuana and cocaine being smuggled in with a group of a couple dozen illegals — NOT AT A PORT OF ENTRY. If the media would subscribe to the saying, “we don’t know what we don’t know,” instead of “we don’t know, but we’re going to present it as fact anyway,” we’d be a lot better off.

  23. Cluster February 18, 2019 / 9:02 am

    I love this. The anti Israel and anti white bigotry is in full bloom in the Democrat Party and it’s quite possible that they will eat their own.

    Ocasio-Cortez’s supporters are planning to challenge several New York Democrats in primaries next year, hoping to install ideological allies over the rank-and-file liberals already serving. The target list includes the powerful chairmen of the House Foreign Affairs Committee (Eliot Engel) and the House Judiciary Committee (Jerrold Nadler). Her supporters believe Engel and Nadler are too supportive of business and of Israel. They also view these racially diverse districts as ideal targets for change, having been represented by white men for decades.

    • Amazona February 18, 2019 / 10:39 am

      In the past month or so the NDP—that is, the New Democrat Party, the one of wild-eyed radicals so in control of the party that any rational remnants are still lining up, nose to tail, to officially support its cockamamie NGD—has openly come out in favor of infanticide and the destruction of Israel as a nation.

      It has also come out in favor of simply ignoring our Constitution and putting the federal government in charge of pretty much everything, including the destruction of the major engines of our economic success. And it has supported measures that would make the country essentially unable to defend itself while officially opening it up to unlimited immigration, without any kind of background checks and to criminals and terrorists.

      In a month, give or take a few days. This list does not address the plan to totally “fundamentally” transform our nation with an entirely new collectivist economy as guaranteed to fail here as it has failed everywhere else it has been tried.

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