Open Thread

I don’t think the Democrats realize that if they really go for impeachment, we’re not going to lie down for it. We already know they’ve got nothing on Trump – Mueller would have found it a year ago, if it existed – so we also know that any move to impeach him would be a purely partisan political act. And act of hatred and disdain – not just for President Trump, but for all of us who support him. I do hope that cooler heads prevail – trouble is, the cooler heads in the Democrat Party are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

Get ready for a wild ride into 2020 where literally everything may happen.

Related: Richard Fernandez takes a very intelligent look at how civil war might be. He’s wrong, in my view: if we descend into civil war, it will be extremely violent very fast. Once the lid is removed, 60 years of hatred will emerge and start butchering everyone on the other side it can get its hands on. People, especially on the right, will be looking for payback. That’s why I think a putative Civil War II in the United States would be very much like the Spanish Civil War.

The new Attorney General will not recuse himself from the Mueller investigation. Good. But, also, a bit moot at this point – the Democrats are fleeing from Mueller as fast as they can and have latched on to “obstruction” as the thing to go after Trump on…it is nice and nebulous and you can spin it any way you like.

Hillary says she’ll be the only Democrat not running for President in 2020. We’ll see – but if she does want to change her mind, she’ll have to do it in the next 30 days.

Rep. Ilhan Omar is an anti-Semite. Democrats are in a pickle trying to dance around that fact. They’ve already made the calculation that there’s more money and votes in America’s growing Muslim community than in America’s shrinking Jewish community, so they will not – cannot – actually smack her down. OTOH, the charge of anti-Semitism is starting to hurt the Democrats and they want to make it go away. It won’t, though: if you lie down with dogs, you come up with fleas.

Breakfast Club Evita – our own Socialist AOC – might be in a bit of legal jeopardy over how she managed campaign funds in 2018. A lot of funds; and they seem to have been moved around in odd ways almost as if she were trying to hide where the money was going.

58 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 8:29 am

    I tend to agree with you on the Richard Fernandez piece about hybrid civil war, although toward the end of the article he nails the way many of us feel.

    People often say that our problem in America today is incivility or intolerance. This is incorrect. Motive attribution asymmetry leads to something far worse: contempt, which is a noxious brew of anger and disgust. And not just contempt for other people’s ideas, but also for other people.

    I would substitute “actions” for “ideas,” because it’s a stretch to say that the Left has “ideas. Their actions aren’t based on ideas so much as hatred and a desire to change, to reform, to destroy the status quo. Look at the Lefty trolls who showed up here a week or two ago. Between Casper, rgrg2 and one or two others, they didn’t present one single idea as to how their side would improve life for most Americans. As Amazona has observed on numerous occasions, they not only don’t defend their vision for American, they can’t even describe what it is.

    Fernandez has definitely got the “contempt” part right. The United States is the greatest experiment in self-government ever conceived in modern history, and I have nothing but contempt for anyone who advocates, as Bernie Sanders said yesterday, for fundamentally transforming it.

    • Cluster March 5, 2019 / 9:00 am

      “Fundamental transformation” was also a campaign rally cry for Obama 11 years ago – why do they hate America so much that they feel the need to fundamentally transform it? And the class warfare that Bernie engages in is reminiscent of Castro and Stalin. Bernie even looks the part of a mad, angry comrade revolutionist.

      Mueller has nothing, and the Democrats do not have the decency to admit that they were wrong. That’s why they are now embarking on a total scavenger hunt to find something ….. anything. And true to their leftist bona fides, they do love the police state. As long as they are the police.

    • Ryan Murphy March 5, 2019 / 9:23 am

      Usually ‘fundamental transformation’ of the government is achieved against the will of the governed for the benefit of those governing…

      • M. Noonan March 5, 2019 / 11:26 am

        There’s a big, old “bingo!”. People with the Grand Scheme, whatever it is supposed to be, are invariably scheming to get power and wealth they couldn’t otherwise earn.

      • Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 12:12 pm

        “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” – H L Mencken

    • M. Noonan March 5, 2019 / 11:29 am

      Because I’ve done things as I shouldn’t, I spent a lot of time and prayer in making myself very merciful and forgiving. And it has done a lot of good for me; I have a very large amount of patience for error. But I’ve been insulted, daily, all my adult life by people who call themselves my fellow Americans and I’m getting rather tired of it. I feel a bit put upon. If I’m feeling like this, I can only imagine what others are feeling. I’ll admit to this: when the Convington Catholic thing came up, I was ready to shoot someone over it. Seriously ready. It infuriated me no end. The left is pushing and pushing and pushing and eventually, we’re going to push back.

      • Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 11:43 am

        You and I are on exactly the same page.

        I overheard a couple young women, probably early 20’s, talking at the Y last Friday. They were doing stretches on an exercise mat a few feet from me; probably didn’t realize they were talking as loud as they were. They were talking about how Bernie was going to kick Trump’s ass all the way back to last week, and then Right-wingers were going to have to do things THEIR way, and if we didn’t like it, tough. I wanted so badly to say, “how are you going to make us do things YOUR way?” But I bit my tongue and didn’t say anything, although if that’s the mindset among Millennials in a small rural Indiana town of 10,000, I can’t begin to imagine what it’s like in major metro areas.

      • M. Noonan March 5, 2019 / 7:32 pm

        Youth is always more left than age – but today’s youth is, I think, more left than any previous generation because they were more effectively propagandized in school than any previous generation. Like all previous generations, most of them will move right as they age because of common sense: but, meanwhile, the left does have a large body of young people who really believe the left’s drivel. It could cause some real problems for a while.

        Oh, and we need to abolish public schooling – I never want our Republic to face again the danger of a generation forced to learn to hate their own country.

  2. Cluster March 5, 2019 / 10:02 am

    I am watching MSNBC and the author of the new book “Dying of Whiteness” (no I am not kidding). His premise is that a lot of white people in fly over country are dying because they don’t embrace big government programs (still not kidding) Here’s some nuggets from the interview

    – Lower taxes and guns have become a white racial identity (not making this up)
    – White women voted against their best interests by voting for Trump
    – We can’t let Trump define what whiteness is

    Wow. Just when I thought leftists could not be more insane

    • Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 10:31 am

      I think any lingering doubt that Liberalism is a mental disorder has been dispelled.

    • M. Noonan March 5, 2019 / 11:27 am

      But you gotta admire how the Left has made being racist against whites a virtue.

      • Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 11:42 am

        No, I think contempt applies there as well.

  3. Cluster March 5, 2019 / 4:48 pm

    So this just happened last Friday in my neck of the woods …. but there is no problem at the border. Just ask Nancy. It’s all our imagination

    An MS-13 gang member has been arrested along with five other people during a massive drugs raid in Arizona. The bust, carried out by Drug Enforcement Administration agents and Scottsdale police officers on Friday, involved the search of four homes in the city of Mesa, just east of Phoenix. Officials found weapons, ammunition and border armor as well as two kilograms of cocaine and around 1,000 pills believed to be fentanyl. They also uncovered $28,000 in cash.

    • JeremiahTMM March 5, 2019 / 8:39 pm

      Did you hear anything about that military “exercise” they had in Los Angeles a few weeks ago? It’s been about three weeks I think now, I think. Inseen a lot of comments from people who served in special ops for the marines. They said that there were helicopters going down in the middle of the street, and they were carrying something out of the “guatamalan house of culture.” They were detonating explosives, and such. Everyone seems to be speculating what the soldiers were carrying out of the building, as they were in chemical or hazmat suits. Did you hear anything about that?

  4. rgrg2 March 5, 2019 / 10:37 pm

    Retired Spook: “Look at the Lefty trolls who showed up here a week or two ago. Between Casper, rgrg2 and one or two others, they didn’t present one single idea as to how their side would improve life for most Americans.”

    As I recall, the last time I was here it was to point out your collective moral and ethical failings in unequivocally supporting Donald Trump, a man of low morals and ethics, and antithetical to everything conservatives once stood for in terms of personal responsibility and character. It doesn’t require presenting “one single idea” to recognize your collective failure in this regard.

    • Retired Spook March 5, 2019 / 10:53 pm

      Thanks for making my point.

      • rgrg2 March 5, 2019 / 10:56 pm

        Meanwhile, if you want ideas, how about a health care system that provides all Americans with a decent level of health care? Once upon a time that was actually supported by conservatives, e.g., Mitt Romney. But then Barack Obama got elected, which somehow forced conservatives to renounce their own positions.

        Or how about a cap-and-trade policy to reduce pollution and fossil fuel dependence? Oh yeah, that used to be a conservative idea, too.

        Or how about a more rational tax system that doesn’t overwhelmingly favor rich people, and doesn’t produce gargantuan, record-setting deficits? You all used to claim to be opposed to deficits, but your acquiescence to Trump means you even approve of huge deficits. If you don’t stand for fiscal or personal responsibility anymore, then what do you stand for?

        And if you’re going to insist on ideas from each poster, where are yours, Spook? Go back through your posts for however long you like until you find one original idea that you presented and bring it to our attention. The only idea you promulgate—over and over—is that you expect to have to shoot it out with Americans whose politics you disagree with.

      • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 8:47 am

        RG … are you Mika Brezinski? You sound about as intelligent as she is, so just wondering.

        And with your Romney comment you swerved into federalism which all of us support, but I don’t think you grasp that concept.

      • Retired Spook March 6, 2019 / 9:49 am

        Meanwhile, if you want ideas

        rg, You don’t seem to grasp the difference between issue advocacy and ideas. This is a great example:

        Or how about a more rational tax system that doesn’t overwhelmingly favor rich people, and doesn’t produce gargantuan, record-setting deficits?

        Tax the rich more would be issue advocacy, a tough sell given the top 1% already pay 40% of income taxes, and the bottom 50% pay little or no tax. Just exactly where is the point where you kill the goose that laid the golden egg? New York and California are finding out, although the golden geese are leaving before they croak. Saying “how can we devise the best and fairest possible way to fund the necessary functions of government while, at the same time, not spend more than we take in, all within the framework of the Constitution?” That would be an idea, or would lead to the development of ideas on how best to solve the problem. See the difference?

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 2:46 pm

        Thank you for tutoring me on the difference between advocacy and ideas, Spook, but “how can we devise the best and fairest possible way to fund the necessary functions of government while, at the same time, not spend more than we take in, all within the framework of the Constitution?” is a question and not an idea.

        Anyway, still waiting to hear an idea from you, since that seems to be the ante for commenting here.

      • Retired Spook March 7, 2019 / 1:18 pm

        Go back through your posts for however long you like until you find one original idea that you presented and bring it to our attention. The only idea you promulgate—over and over—is that you expect to have to shoot it out with Americans whose politics you disagree with.

        I suspected you were an old-time troll who’s been here numerous times over the years under a number of different screen names. The Left has owned violence as a political tactic for the last half century, so yes, I do expect at some point to have to defend myself against you and those who share your beliefs. But it’s an historically based belief, not a threat. The threats are almost all coming from your side, which is ironic given you have nothing to back them up except a computer in your mom’s basement.

        BTW, over the years I have repeatedly espoused the value of personal responsibility, limited government and free markets. You, in all your previous incarnations, have not only never defended your views, you’ve been so busy attacking Conservatives that you haven’t even articulated what you believe. So piss off.

      • Amazona March 7, 2019 / 1:32 pm

        rgrg2, how about a link to Conservative support for cap and trade? Keep in mind that Conservative and Republican are not synonymous. If they were, more Republicans would be backing the Conservative efforts of Donald Trump.

        And keep in mind, the concept of “fair” taxation is highly personal and usually boils down to taxing The Other Guy more.

        It is a Leftist concept that it is the responsibility of the government to provide health care—that is, that the government should abandon or violate its own Constitution and expand its scope to include things not delegated to it by the Constitution and forbidden to it by the 10th Amendment. On the other hand, it is a Conservative concept that anything not delegated to the federal government (and this would include health care or, more accurately, payment for health care, unless the Left wants its officials doing surgery) is up to the states, or to the People. Conservatives have never had any other position.

        BTW, Mitt Romney was elected as GOVERNOR of a STATE and as such his job was to enact the will of the citizens of that state, which included some form of state payment to health care providers. I can understand why you are so confused by this—it nota only touches on actual political structure but doesn’t line up with your preferred, predigested narrative.

        But thanks for admitting that you don’t come here to engage in actual political discourse but only to lecture us on what you choose to consider our moral failings. Which we find highly amusing, as your political allegiance is to the system promoting infanticide, mob rule, total sexual hedonism and the modern version of slavery in which you endorse and ferociously defend the concept that one human being can own another and have total control over its fate. That is, a political system totally devoid of any semblance of traditional morality, choosing to redefine “morality” as dominance over those with whom you disagree.

    • M. Noonan March 6, 2019 / 1:03 am

      You only believe that Trump is bad because the MSM – a mere arm of the DNC – tells you so. Actually, he’s far more honest than the rest of the people in politics; far more normal, too. We’ve been so overwhelmed with carefully scripted political leaders – in both parties – for 50 years that it merely seems like Trump is odd…the sick, twisted people are those who allow themselves to become carefully scripted. People, in short, who will say whatever their handlers think necessary to obtain and retain power.

      You live in a strange world – what color is the sky there? – where Trump is the ogre but people who are enthralled to multinational corporations, the abortion lobby, cheap-labor-mongering Chamber of Commerce types and bribed think tankers are the Tribunes of morality. Your view is entirely bogus – wake the heck up. I know a couple liberals who have – they are still dyed in the wool liberals, but they can’t stand this garbage government run by garbage people and supported by garbage corporations and covered up for by garbage media.

      If we had a real government of, by and for the people then the follow non-comprehensive list of people would be exiled to Adak:

      Nancy Pelosi
      Jeff Flake
      Chuck Schumer
      Mitt Romney
      Paul Ryan
      Michael Bloomberg
      Carly Fiorina
      Maxine Waters
      John Boehner
      Jerry Brown
      Arnold Schwarzenegger
      Adam Schiff
      Lamar Alexander
      Jeff Bezos
      The Koch Brothers
      Bill Gates
      George Soros

      Getting the picture? These are all, in one way or another, garbage people. They all need to go.

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 2:49 pm

        You only believe that Trump is bad because the MSM – a mere arm of the DNC – tells you so.

        That is utterly ridiculous. Is it normal to operate a fraudulent “university” whose business model is to defraud average Americans of their life savings in order to profit from them? In other words, to con them? Is that a business you would be proud to own? Would you counsel your own children to become con men because they might make money at it? I mean, seriously, Mark, this is just one example, and I don’t need any media to tell me that it was wrong because it was proven in a court of law. What has happened to your ethics and morals? It is a serious question.

      • M. Noonan March 6, 2019 / 3:18 pm

        Where are the criminal charges against Donald Trump? That’s right – you’ve got none. You’ve got lawyer stuff; that is all. And everyone who has a bucket of money has lots of lawyer stuff. None of your heroes are free of it…but, you haven’t been told about their lawyer stuff because telling you would cloud the Narrative.

        What we don’t have in Trump – someone who entered office poor and left it rich.

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 2:53 pm

        And by the way, you mentioned that “when the Convington Catholic thing came up, I was ready to shoot someone over it.” What about the Catholic child abuse scandal that has and is happening within the church itself. Does that make you mad? Do you want to shoot people over it?

      • M. Noonan March 6, 2019 / 3:17 pm

        The abusers were mere criminals to be handled by criminal and civil procedure – what happened with Covington was a betrayal of the American ideal. The Establishment set out to destroy the lives of innocent people to serve the political needs of one party. That you refuse to see the difference is on you.

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 4:12 pm

        That you dismiss the Catholic church sex abuse scandals as the work of a handful of criminals is indicative of the attitude that has allowed the scandal to fester for decades. And that is on you.

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 4:16 pm

        Where are the criminal charges against Donald Trump?

        So I take it from your response that, so long as one is not convicted in a criminal court, all behavior must be on the up and up, ethically and morally. Is that really your position?

      • M. Noonan March 6, 2019 / 6:50 pm

        Did I say “conviction”? No, I believe I said “criminal charges”.

      • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 6:43 pm

        …. so long as one is not convicted in a criminal court, all behavior must be on the up and up, ethically and morally.

        Oh not at all. We all lived through the Clinton years so we know better.

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 8:19 pm

        Okay, criminal charges. Just wondering, do you think that a sitting president can be indicted? If not, that would be convenient for your moral and ethical justifications.

        Anyway, we have Trump on videotape describing his behavior toward women. “You can do anything. Grab them by the p*ssy. You can do anything.” Is this behavior that you personally condone? Do you raise your boys to treat women that way? Does it really require a criminal charge to understand that it is wrong?

        Trump was sued is civil court in the Trump University case, which resulted in him paying a $25 million settlement. Do you really need a criminal charge to understand that Trump University was a con to bilk people from their savings? That it was wrong?

        Trump is named as an unindicted co-consipirator in criminal charges with respect to the 2016 election. All good so long as he isn’t indicted?

        Trump paid off two women to keep secret his sexual encounters with them so as to prevent the American people from knowing about the encounters during the election. This is okay with you?

        Honestly, Mark, where are your morals? You list off a bunch of other politicians as justification (I guess) for ignoring Trump’s own moral and ethical failings. You conservatives used to complain that liberals practiced moral relativism. What do you think you are doing?

      • M. Noonan March 7, 2019 / 12:21 am

        People sued and won; if everyone who lost a lawsuit is a criminal, how many jails do we need to build? That, as I said, is lawyer stuff – A says This, Be says That…take it to court.

        Trump isn’t name as an un-indicted co-conspirator anywhere. Leave the Louise Mensch stuff off the blog – I’m sure there are places you can go where people discuss the Marshall of the Supreme Court all the live, long day. They’ve got nothing on Trump – because there is nothing to have on him. He’s not the grifter – they are.

        As for morals – there is no evidence that Trump ever treated a woman with disrespect, let alone did anything physically wrong with a woman. Meanwhile, the left is neck deep in creeps. Clean your own stables and then get back to me about Trump’s.

      • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 10:04 pm

        Trump is named as an unindicted co-consipirator in criminal charges with respect to the 2016 election.

        What does this even mean RG? This is word salad with zero substance. And honestly I am surprised it’s only two women he had to pay off, he’s still a great President. Have you ever read about JFK’s dalliances? Of course JFK wouldn’t even recognize today’s Democrat Party.

      • rgrg2 March 7, 2019 / 12:56 am

        Cluster, I continue to be touched by your interest in my every comment despite claiming otherwise. As far as Trump being an unindicted co-consipirator, even the judge in the Cohen case said in court that Trump had directed Cohen to commit a federal felony. Is that still not clear enough? Even Fox News admitted as much. (Oh, I forgot, you watch MSNBC, in which case you certainly could not have missed this news, so now I have to question your sincerity, if not your comprehension abilities.) If you don’t know what an unindicted co-conspirator is, google it. As for JFK, he was president almost 60 years ago. Trump is president today, hence why we are discussing him. (Is this really as hard for you as you make it out to be?)

        As far as Mark’s dismissal of Trump’s moral and ethical failings, he’s just employing excuses from an apologist. He hasn’t–and can’t–make the claim that Trump in any way represents the kind of morals and ethics that Marks wishes to espouse, so he just falls back on the “everybody does it” rationale. Which means he has no claim to the moral high ground left.

      • M. Noonan March 7, 2019 / 4:43 am

        No, I actually don’t. You want me to be just making a moral equivalency, but I’m not. I assert, point blank, that Trump is the moral superior to almost everyone involved in politics – especially national politics, and including the un-elected bureaucracy. Even supposing he did sleep around a lot – bad. A sin. He shouldn’t have done it – but the sins of adultery and fornication are things for God to deal with; not you and me. Perhaps, if Trump has done all that, he has now had a change of heart and begged God for forgiveness? If he has, then it becomes something that doesn’t rule him any longer. You don’t know. I don’t know. It is really none of our business, either way.

        But what Trump hasn’t done is say one thing to get elected, and then go on and do another. You know, as the late Senator McCain did to get re-elected in 2016…over and over and over again he swore up and down that, if re-elected, he’d vote to repeal Obamacare. He lied. Same thing with former President Obama – over and over and over again he swore up and down that we could keep our plans and our doctors. He lied. And these lies, by these two men, were deliberate and malicious lies – attempts to fool the public into supporting them, even though neither of them had the remotest desire to actually carry out their promises. And that is just two of ten thousand examples, on both sides of the aisle.

        Harry Reid showed up in politics with hardly a penny to his name – he spent hardly any time in the private sector. He’s worth about $11 million. Eleven million! There are people who work, hard, their whole lives as doctors, lawyers, contractors and such who never build up that kind of wealth. Harry Reid campaigned and made speeches. 11 million f***ing dollars? For that?!?!

        On and on and on it goes like that. And you think that Trump is the problem? Illiterates are getting high school diplomas. Illegal immigrants get welfare benefits. People are sent to jail for failure to pay fines. The government gets to know every time you move $10,000.00 from one account to another. People have their property confiscated by the police and then have to prove it was legally obtained. There is typhus in Los Angeles. Parts of San Francisco are buried under human feces. Trillions of dollars in government money can’t be accounted for over the past 20 years (they don’t know where the money went – someone got it for something, but nobody can say who got it or what for). Innocent people are fairly routinely sent to jail on trumped up charges by out of control prosecutors. All of this existed before Trump took office – but he’s the immoral guy? He’s the man who just can’t be tolerated in power? By whom? Who the F in government can hold a candle to Trump in matters of morality? They’ve all been in on this – either directly making it happen, or by standing aside as it happened.

      • Amazona March 7, 2019 / 1:06 pm

        Remember, Trump was not president when the top officials in the
        FBI were paying Christopher Steele at the same time he was also being paid by the Democrat Party to work hand in glove with an agent of the Russian government to invent a fake account of invented behaviors of a presidential candidate with the goal of influencing the election.
        Remember, Trump was not president when those same top officials committed perjury and a fraud upon the Court by presenting, under oath, information they knew to be false, to enable the government to spy on the presidential candidate they wanted to defeat in the election. That is to say, Trump had no authority or power when federal agencies were weaponized to be used against American citizens.
        Trump is not responsible for the shift in American justice from first identifying a crime and then seeking the perpetrator to first identifying a person and then seeking a crime to charge him with—-a characteristic, by the way, of tyranny.

      • Amazona March 7, 2019 / 12:53 pm

        It is fascinating to watch the mental tap dancing of the Left, as it flips back and forth from one position to another.
        The Left scornfully rejects history when it reveals the sordid and brutal history of Leftist governance and control of populations, but then focuses on the historical behavior of someone they want to destroy while ignoring his later behaviors.

        Dem support for slavery? Too far back, doesn’t count.

        Dem acceptance of moral depravity in its chosen heroes?

        JFK being sexually promiscuous in the
        White House, committing serial adultery with his Secret Service guards on watch for the return of his wife? Too far back in history to count.

        Ted Kennedy committing adultery, driving drunk, wrecking a car and then callously leaving his mistress alone in a sunken car to drown, alone and terrified after being abandoned?
        Too far back In history to count.

        Falling in love with and electing to the presidency a man whose entire political career in Arkansas had been marked by corruption and fraud, with every single one of his co-conspirators in these crimes being convicted and sentenced? Too far back in history to count.

        Defending that man when he committed further adultery while in office and engaged in sexual activities not only while in office but IN his office and then lying about it while being investigated for non-consensual sex (that is, actual RAPE) and being impeached for committing perjury and disbarred?
        Too far back in history to count

        Condemning a man for HIS sexual activities during this same period in time, when he was a private citizen? Sure, drag it out, embellish his antics, exaggerate them, and even lie about them years later to try to destroy him? You bet—if you are a Democrat operating under the infinitely fluid laws of what you choose to find objectionable.

      • casper3031 March 7, 2019 / 9:09 am

        “But what Trump hasn’t done is say one thing to get elected, and then go on and do another.”

        Except that Mexico would pay for his wall. That he would lower the deficit. That he would be paying more in taxes. That he had no contacts with Russia. etc.

        Meanwhile, you want to send your political enemies to your version of a gulag for What? Disagreeing with Dear Leader ?

      • Amazona March 7, 2019 / 11:47 am

        Uh, Casper, I don’t think Trump said he never had any contact with Russia. He said that he did not have discussions with someone from Russia about that nation influencing our election. He had been working in the idea of a
        Trump hotel in Russia for years—OF COURSE he had had contacts with Russia.

        We do understand the desperate need of the Left and its mindless meat puppets to claim that the only way Mexico could “pay for the wall” would be to write a check tp the United States Treasury with a note on the memo line saying “to pay for the wall”. We really don’t expect any more in the way of either intelligence or integrity from that side of the political divide.

        It took a long time to get where we are now, regarding our financial mess, but you, whose idol created so much of it and whose political party demands that it increase through massively increased payouts to an artificially created and growing Dependent Class, just keep whimpering that Donald Trump has not singlehandedly reversed this and corrected it. Just keep that annoying whining to yourself, OK?

        And you, whose political bedfellows CREATED the gulags that imprisoned and enslaved millions for Thought Crimes and whose current incarnation of that political structure is now busily trying to bring back Thought Police to snout out and punish Thought Crimes, just keep parroting what your masters tell you. Your posts on this thread telegraph their strategy—-since they can’t deny what is happening, now that they don’t control all information sources, the goal is to simply flip definitions around and switch names and identities. And it is a strategy that works, on minds like yours. You are so historically and politically illiterate and so dependent on the toxic thrills of hating an Invented Other you are easily, and eagerly, led.

      • M. Noonan March 7, 2019 / 1:59 pm

        FFS – it is your side that is calling for speech to be banned and trying to destroy people for disagreeing. Your side can’t even muster up the courage to condemn anti-Semitism.

  5. rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 12:47 am

    Here’s an idea: How about the president shouldn’t use a bogus emergency declaration to subvert Congress’ authority to determine how money is spent for the federal government.

    • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 8:53 am

      How about Congress not give the President the power to do it? As they did back in 1976 and an act of which every President since has used in some capacity. Care to rethink that?

  6. rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 12:50 am

    In the previous thread, Amazona wrote:

    Sometimes it is an effort to just do an end run around the Constitution, such as the compact of states agreeing to allot all their electoral college votes to whoever wins the national popular vote. To actually change the way the Electoral College is structured would require a Constitutional amendment, and the Left don’t amend.

    I thought the Constitution gives states the power to control how their electoral votes are awarded. So why would this require a Constitutional amendment?

    • Retired Spook March 6, 2019 / 9:39 am

      I thought the Constitution gives states the power to control how their electoral votes are awarded. So why would this require a Constitutional amendment?

      You forced me to do some research, which is always a good thing. When you challenge what you believe, you tend to expand your knowledge. Here is the best explanation I could find to answer your question.

      Here’s another article that looks at both sides of the issue. The most interesting aspect, IMO, is this:

      Even with Polis’ signature on the dotted line the change won’t be immediate.

      It’s all dependent on the National Popular Vote compact and Colorado would only make the change if enough states sign on and commit their electors to the 270 needed to win the presidency. So far, 11 states and the District of Columbia have joined — a total of 172 electoral votes. The vast majority of those are from California.

    • Retired Spook March 6, 2019 / 1:18 pm

      Here’s what makes the Colorado legislation unconstitutional.

      No State shall, without the consent of Congress … enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State.” Intended to curtail the increase of political power in the individual states that might interfere with the supremacy of the federal government

    • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 3:00 pm

      Happy to help you along in your education, Spook. It’s never too late to learn. But maybe try broadening your sources of information. The first article you cited does quote Article II, Section 1, which seems pretty clear. But it then goes on to explain to readers why Article II, Section 1 doesn’t mean what it says. Hmmm.

      As for requiring Congressional approval of inter-state compacts, if you look into it further you will find a range of opinions as to whether the NPV would actually require Congressional approval. You will also find that the backers of NPV intend to obtain Congressional approval.

      • Retired Spook March 7, 2019 / 3:12 pm

        The first article you cited does quote Article II, Section 1, which seems pretty clear. But it then goes on to explain to readers why Article II, Section 1 doesn’t mean what it says. Hmmm.

        Actually the first article says nothing of the sort. If you can’t support your position without lying, don’t bother to come back.

  7. rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 12:55 am

    Also in the previous thread, Cluster wrote:

    there was no mention of the fact that Bernie has been a “public servant” his entire life yet is a multi millionaire. I don;t know how that happens on a “servant of the people” salary.

    He earned $1 million in 2016 and 2017 from his congressional salary and from royalties from his two books. Before that, his net worth was less than $1 million. I guess writing books that people pay for is pretty nefarious stuff.

    • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 9:03 am

      So it’s ok for Bernie Sanders to be in the top 1% of millionaires and billionaires, own three homes and not pay his fair share of taxes? Who else do you put on that list?

      Asking for a friend.

  8. Cluster March 6, 2019 / 9:07 am

    MSNBC is now promoting a Quinnipiac poll asking whether or not Trump has committed crimes. 45% respondents said yes, 43% said no. Is this how we prosecute people now in this hyper progressive media culture. By polling? Maybe RG could clear that up for me.

    And RG are you excited for the Mueller report?

  9. Cluster March 6, 2019 / 9:41 am

    Anyone who watches the progressive media know that their talking point and often repeated refrain is that border crossings are at an all time low, rendering the “national emergency” to be moot, Even our our very own meat puppet RG repeats that refrain. Well ….

    The number of undocumented immigrants stopped at the U.S. border with Mexico is breaking records after soaring to more than 76,000 last month, according to officials. U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials said Tuesday that the figure is the highest monthly level in years.

  10. Cluster March 6, 2019 / 11:01 am

    Hey RG, here’s a good read from MSNBC’s Chris Matthews. You have about the same level of intelligence as he and Mika do, so this little screed of his will probably make sense to you. Just thought I would share it with you …. you’re welcome. And please let us know how you FEEL about it.

    You’re on Oversight. Explain something about the dress code on your committee. The right-wing Republicans, the Tea Party types show up like they’re working for CNBC in the morning. Why do they show up with the white shirts on? They don’t unbutton their collars. They don’t roll up their sleeves. They wear that sort of dress code of the MBA graduate. What are they — and they had nasty looks on their faces. They were really angry. What’s the story on their sort of sentiments? Why do they hate anybody who criticizes Trump?

    • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 3:01 pm

      Do you have an ideas, Cluster? You must bring ideas to the table, you know. Seems like you just regurgitate the crap you see on TV. (Kind of like our president!)

      • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 3:05 pm

        Oh I have professed many ideas in the past. Right now I am just having fun watching progressives destroy themselves. Pass the popcorn

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 4:17 pm

        So… no. You have no ideas. That’s what I thought.

      • Cluster March 6, 2019 / 6:42 pm

        I don’t care what you think …. I thought maybe you would have figured that out by now

      • rgrg2 March 6, 2019 / 8:09 pm

        I don’t care what you think

        Which is why you respond to every comment I make. lol

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