Pre-Mueller-Mageddon Open Thread

Tomorrow is The Day of all Days: the Mueller Report gets released. Whole thing is a waste of time, of course, but that won’t stop Democrats. If they are at a loss, they’ll just bald-faced lie and make up stuff about it. I think, though, that the pivot they’ll revolve around is whatever is redacted – they’ll assure their suckers viewers that in those areas is the proof that Trump is a Russian stooge. What I’m hoping for is that as we ring down the curtain on Mueller, Barr starts to raise the curtain on a general investigation into government corruption.

Robert O’Rourke (D-Never Be Caught Dead in Texas Again After This) says that he doesn’t give to charity because he gives himself to us. Seriously: I’m not kidding. That’s what he’s asserting. And the Democrats claim that Trump is a narcissist.

Jazz Shaw has an interesting bit on the UAW’s continuing efforts to unionize the VW plant in Chattanooga. It’ll probably fall flat: but, I’m starting to wonder if it isn’t time for us on the right to become Unionists? What I mean is that there is a real need for worker unions – trouble is, the worker unions we have these days mostly represent government employees and are the merest tools of the Democrat party. But suppose we started up a union which represents only private sector employees and remains strictly non-partisan while pushing for various worker protections? Think about it: we’re all starting to feel a grip of fear that one unguarded comment on social media could get us fired; might be nice to have union protection against that. So, too, might the cubicle workers (mostly customer service of various types) like some protections against stupidly absurd work schedules (serious, guys: I know whereof I speak…some times they have these poor people working mornings one day, evenings the next and then take their two days off and split them up)? Might also be nice to have unions which work against government regulations which are designed to restrain trade. We should ponder this.

RSM wonders if Soros is funding Democrat anti-Semitism.

Trump son-in-law Kushner is apparently working on a Middle East peace deal to be unveiled later this year – naturally, the Palestinian leadership is opposed before the plan it is even presented. What people won’t admit – because they are cowards – is that the PA is a mafia-like organization and if they made peace, there’d be no place for the current mafia bosses. It doesn’t matter that the Palestinians suffer under poverty and corruption. It certainly doesn’t matter that a few Israelis are killed by the guys in Gaza (matters even less that Palestinians are killed in response). All that matters is that the mafia bosses continue to live well and siphon off foreign aid money to their Swiss bank accounts. Until people confront this fact and kill the Palestinian leaders, there will be no peace.

Gotta love the Poles – they propose to name a new, American military base in Poland, “Fort Trump”. Of all the Europeans, the Poles are about the only ones worth an American’s attention…though the Czech’s and the Balt’s are ok.

39 thoughts on “Pre-Mueller-Mageddon Open Thread

  1. Ryan Murphy April 17, 2019 / 10:04 pm

    They need to ‘redact’ a few harmless or even helpful things, then when they howl about redactions start going ‘well ok’ and revealing those things. Just to mess with them.

    • M. Noonan April 17, 2019 / 10:50 pm

      LOL

    • Amazona April 18, 2019 / 2:15 am

      Ryan, I like the way you think. I’ve always thought a lot of Trumps comments that get the hair-on-fire crowd even more flamed up are just the verbal/political equivalents of pretending to throw the ball and then laughing while the dog goes galloping off in the pretend direction and spends a lot of time sniffing around wondering where it went, and this is a great version of that.

      “Well, if you INSIST I guess we HAVE to unredact the part that says the Dems should be indicted and charged, with a high chance of conviction…”

  2. Cluster April 18, 2019 / 9:33 am

    Democrats and the Media are in a panic today. They should be. It won’t be long before everyone knows that this entire Russia collusion story was nothing more Democrat oppo research designed to destroy their opponent and perpetuated for over two years by the complicit media and the deep state. They have all been lying and it will be fun to watch that come to light.

    It’s also hilarious watching these mindless MSNBC panelists try and cover their tracks. Scarborough actually said that he repeatedly “warned this country” that Trump could become president. Uh no you didn’t Joe. In fact you mocked and laughed at Trump during the entire campaign and gave him zero chance to win. In fact I remember when you sternly looked into the camera and emphatically told your audience that “Donald Trump will never be POTUS”.

    I guess Joe was convinced the “insurance policy” the deep state had would prevent Trump from ascending to WH. Wrong again Joey.

  3. Cluster April 18, 2019 / 9:59 am

    The press did not get what they wanted so now they are attacking the character of AG Barr. These are wholly dishonorable and reprehensible people.

  4. Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 10:26 am

    I read quite a few mystery and action novels on my Nook. Yesterday I got an email from Barnes & Noble offering a free copy of the Mueller Report downloaded to my Nook. Should have it some time today. I look forward to reading it.

    Something just about everyone has forgotten; there’s a second IG report due out in May or June that is supposed to be concentrated on how the FBI and Justice Dept. handled the Hillary investigation. I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Barr request another Special Counsel to investigate the further misdeeds of the FBI, Justice Dept. and Intelligence agencies WRT the numerous laws they broke attempting to prevent Trump from winning the nomination, from winning the Presidency and from keeping the Presidency.

    • Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 7:28 pm

      BTW, if you want to compare apples and apples, look at how the two sides were investigated. The Trump Administration turned over all requested documents in a timely manner, allowed all subpoenaed witnesses to testify and did not invoke executive privilege in either the investigation or the publication of the report. Hillary Clinton, OTOH, deleted 33,000 subpoenaed emails, smashed subpoenaed smart phones and tablets with a hammer and acid washed the subpoenaed hard drive of her server. All of her subordinates were granted immunity even though they had not been charged with any crimes. Now you tell me WHO OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE.

  5. Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 10:46 am

    Tweet from Victor Reklaitis at MarketWatch:

    Looking back on the Q&A, one tense back and forth came when a reporter asked Barr about being “generous” toward the president and noting Trump faced an “unprecedented” situation.

    Barr responded: “Well, is there another precedent for it?”

    Reporter: “No.”

    Barr: “Then unprecedented is an accurate description.”

    Time to take the gloves off and go on offense, President Trump!

    • Cluster April 18, 2019 / 11:03 am

      Time to take the gloves off and go on offense, President Trump!

      Absolutely !! Take no prisoners

  6. Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 11:08 am

    Gay South Bend, Indiana Mayor and Presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg is unabashed at expressing his homosexuality, saying recently he’d like to kiss his husband on Fox News.

    Ana Samuel at Public Discourse has a great response to Mayor Pete.

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    Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is a man in a same-sex marriage. The tweet’s sub-text is that anyone who refuses to cheer for same-sex marriage or support the Left’s sexual ideology is a bigot—someone who is out to harm Mayor Pete and his family.

    Mayor Pete, it cuts both ways. As a Latina mama in touch with a number of other Latinas with traditional family values, I can tell you we are faced every day with people who are “polite to us in person” but who advance and execute policies that assault our values, harm our families, and hurt our children.

    • M. Noonan April 18, 2019 / 5:27 pm

      From what I can tell about Pete, he’s a power mad, fascist anti-Christian bigot.

      So, fits right in with the Democrats…

  7. Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 2:52 pm

    The stock market doesn’t seem to be bothered by the Mueller Report. The DOW and S&P 500 are within less than 1% of their all-time high, and the NASDAQ is within 1.35% of its all-time high.

  8. Amazona April 18, 2019 / 3:37 pm

    Another report from across the pond—London this time. We were sitting in a lounge in London when the press conference came on and watched it all, though not all the Q&A.. In the meantime I went to my tablet and caught the latest shrill whine from Nadler.

    I don’t know the source of the TV coverage but they stuck to the part about Barr and Mueller not agreeing on all of the alleged obstruction claims—that comment stayed, front and center, on the screen for the rest of the report and was repeated every other comment on the scrolling comments at the bottom. Then some whiny Brit talking head came on and started in trying to spin it all, and I picked up a little of MSNBC doing the same. And it was always distorted—not just “no evidence” but “not enough evidence”.

    And man, are they now after Barr’s head on a pike! After the gloating about him being such a good friend of Mueller and so honest and ethical he would hang Trump out to dry. Now he is a partisan hack.

    Remember, they have to keep this going, to try to protect all those who lied to the FISA court and weaponized the FBI. The threat of being able to claim that Trump was just going after these guys to distract from his “crimes” was all that provided cover for them, and that cover is nonexistent as long as there is no way to make that claim.

    I see some unhappy days ahead for the poor sad shell-shocked whimpering Left. And as soon as I get home I will be active in the various recall efforts in Colorado. That ought to be interesting. I am sure we will get rid of some of the legislators and maybe even the governor. One state representative, from the county most deeply dependent on the oil and gas industry, who never mentioned anything about oil and gas during the campaign but then rushed to vote for the bill that will essentially shut down the industry and gut the economy of the county is whining that the only reason people want to get rid of her is that she is a gay Latina. No, it is because she—like the others—ran a dishonest Bait and Switch campaign never mentioning a single one of the wildly extreme and radical bills they then rushed to implement. It was so clearly a coordinated effort to sneak past a usually more intelligent voting public, people are furious. And that race card crap ain’t gonna cut it. Neither is the gay card. I don’t think anyone even knew she is gay. She is up against a demographic that is not, shall we say, tactful—-farmers and people in the petroleum industry—and the next time she tries to pull that someone is going to say to her face no, it is because she is a sneaky lying bitch.

    I hope I am there when it happens.

    In the meantime London is infested with hordes of more whiny virtue signalers determined to shut down the city in the name of fighting to save the planet. It is not going over well. The claim that they want to decease pollution by halting public transportation so people have to drive their own cars to get to work is shifting acceptance of them to awareness that they are just posturing simpering little trouble makers trying to appear relevant. And how better to show how serious you are than gluing yourself to a subway car?

    And the Left is celebrating the burning of Notre Dame as something to do with a welcome shift away from white patriarchy or some such BS.

    We keep talking about approaching a tipping point but I am thinking this might be the nudge it will take. The shrill hysteria about the Mueller report has got to show some of the squishies (Independents) that the Left is just plain effing nuts. Being happy about Notre Dame won’t win any friends. I read that in a vote of 7 to 2, the Cook County supervisors (or whatever their title is) voted to ask for the creation of a 51st State so Chicago can be its own state and stop dragging down the rest of Illinois. I came up with the idea of drawing a line south from the Wyoming border roughly along I-25 and another roughly along Hwy 287, connecting them south of Denver to make a long skinny rectangle encompassing the liberal part of the state and calling it Eastern California, with the rest of the state remaining Colorado. If Illinois is fed up, you know it’s bad.

    • M. Noonan April 18, 2019 / 5:29 pm

      Our liberals are reacting as we thought they would – and they aren’t backing down an inch. Hoyer was trying to throw cold water on any future impeachment efforts, and you can bet that will not sit well with the Democrat base. They are convinced Trump is a traitor – and only a traitor would refuse to impeach. The Democrat civil war is going to be interesting.

      As for Trump’s prospects – I figure him a 75% chance for re-election at this point. Only a major economic meltdown would really cause him jeopardy.

  9. Frank Lee (@trumpcowboy) April 18, 2019 / 4:47 pm

    Unions always sound like a good idea in principle, just like government regulations to help people always sound like a good idea at first. But unions always get corrupted quickly, just like government regulations always expand and eventually choke off private enterprise.

    Like government regulations, some unions are probably necessary and beneficial, but I wouldn’t want to encourage any more. Just like keeping the government as small as possible is the best course. The unions we aleady have provide a little bit of a check on the worse excesses of private enterprise, but ultimately workers simply need to walk if they aren’t being treated right. A smart company will treat it’s workers fairly, and bad ones will eventually fail if the don’t. Unfortunately, it’s not a perfect system, but nothing is.

    • M. Noonan April 18, 2019 / 5:25 pm

      You’re right about that – but our GOP is to be the party of the workers from now on, and we need to keep that in mind. In my view, our first goal is to make sure the working man or woman is getting a fair shake.

      • Frank Lee (@trumpcowboy) April 18, 2019 / 10:22 pm

        I think the GOP can help workers by keeping coal mines profitable, getting out of the way of building pipelines and more industry. And yes, maybe tax incentives to give workers good healthcare (not Obamacare), tax breaks to support families with children, and reasonable regulation to protect workers from abuse in the workplace. But, having worked both with and inside some unions, the amount of corruption in them is just shocking.

        And Trump, of course, was elected in a large part because he’s the only one willing to try to tackle the massive problem with illegal workers, which I think most American workers understand is the biggest problem driving down wages and conditions.

      • Retired Spook April 18, 2019 / 11:11 pm

        We probably won’t know for a few more years, but it’s likely we’re seeing one of the most massive political realignments in American history. I’ve always considered myself a pretty regular guy, not wealthy, not poor, honest, hard working, honorable. I’d like nothing more than for the GOP to be known as the party that represents people like me. It’s pretty clear that the Democrat Party doesn’t. The Democrat Party in California consists of the super rich and the super poor, and they say all trends start in California. I will say this — Democrats have big brass ones to complain about wealth inequality.

  10. Cluster April 18, 2019 / 6:08 pm

    Rod Rosenstein looked like a hostage standing behind Barr today. He’s gotta be catching heat from the left.

    This is I think the 3rd investigation into Russia collusion that has cleared Trump, the House and Senate reports came earlier and like Spook said, the IG report is coming out soon. It’s time to turn the spotlight now on Democrats and the Media.

  11. Cluster April 19, 2019 / 10:26 am

    Shouldn’t someone ask why the Obama administration did nothing to stop Russia from meddling in the 2016 election? Obama was President at the time but it definitely seems like the Obama admin was more intent on watching what Trump did rather than what Russia did. I wonder if that’s what Obama meant when he told Medvedev that he would have more “flexibility”.

    • Retired Spook April 20, 2019 / 11:33 am

      Shouldn’t someone ask why the Obama administration did nothing to stop Russia from meddling in the 2016 election?

      I think there were three reasons why they didn’t: (1) they were incompetent; (2) they thought Hillary would win, and none of what we now know to be true would ever see the light of day; and (3) allowing it to happen was something of a back-up plan for the outside chance that Trump might win, and it could be turned against him.

      • Amazona April 21, 2019 / 5:47 am

        Don’t forget the underlying political ideology connecting modern Russia with the rest of the International Left.

        I realize the term “International Left” sounds melodramatic and a little tinfoil-hatty, but when one steps back and looks at the patterns within so many countries over the past hundred years or so it is easy to see the fingerprints of a coordinating intelligence behind them all. I think there are fingerprints of the intervention of the International Left in the acceptance of Obama into such prestigious American universities and the mysterious financing of that education.

        For Obama to go up against Russia would be like turning on an older and more established, and highly esteemed, ancestor. The “fundamental transformation” of America sought by Obama would have brought us into a very Russia-like governance. Obama had to walk the line between wanting to make America as leftist as he could manage while at the same time posturing as a president with the national security of his nation at stake. His whispered assurances to Medveded about his true intentions and strategies showed that.

        In other words, Russian intervention in US elections served the same basic ideology and agenda of both Putin and Obama.

  12. Retired Spook April 19, 2019 / 10:35 am

    I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that the media is taking Trump’s “I’m fu*ked” comment out of context.

  13. Retired Spook April 19, 2019 / 12:00 pm

    Is anyone else extremely disturbed by the development of this new position of American jurisprudence that “the (fill in the blank — police, investigator, court) did not find enough evidence to charge the accused, but, OTOH, cannot exonerate him/her either? That’s not the way it’s supposed to work, and it can’t be emphasized enough how dangerous this is to the rule of law.

    • Cluster April 19, 2019 / 1:36 pm

      It can’t be emphasized enough how dangerous this current crop of Democrats are to our country

  14. Amazona April 20, 2019 / 4:10 am

    Does anyone here remember any of this in the Mueller report?

    (Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not represent the views of MSN or Microsoft.)

    Russian state-TV viewers on Thursday were delivered a different conclusion from Robert Mueller’s report: Putin always wins. And now everyday Russians are going to win, too.

    In the rest of the world, the Justice Department’s redacted version of the special counsel’s report concluded Moscow interfered in the 2016 presidential election “in sweeping and systematic fashion. ” He identified numerous links between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign, establishing that “the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

    As you can see by the disclaimer, MSN doesn’t want to be held accountable for these lies, but they published them. That is a great example of weasel-wording.

    The author goes on to mix fact with fiction, drawing on what seems to be a limitless supply Crystal Ball and tinfoil-hat sources: Bold indicates what I see as lies interspersed with some actual information:

    On Friday, the Kremlin issued a scathing response, feigning disappointment with the investigation’s quality, questioning whether it was a waste of taxpayers’ money, and falsely claiming the report doesn’t contain “a single piece of evidence” of Russian intervention in 2016.

    Willfully ignoring Mueller’s conclusions, Russian government officials appeared greatly encouraged by the lack of further indictments stemming from the investigation. Parroting President Trump’s narrative, state-media outlet RT on Thursday posted the link to Mueller’s report, prefaced by: “SPOILER ALERT: No ‘collusion’” “Collusion” has no legal definition and is not a federal crime—therefore, the Mueller report did not make a determination on “collusion.”

    Unburdened by the facts, Russian state-TV hosts and experts were happy to repeat Trump’s mantra—“No collusion, no obstruction”—throughout the investigation.

    They seem further emboldened by the recent visit by Fiona Hill, a Trump adviser who held talks in Moscow on April 17 with several Russian officials. U.S. Special Envoy on North Korea Steven Biegun is also in Moscow this week, ahead of the upcoming meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. Vladimir Soloviev, host of Russian state-TV shows Moscow. Kremlin. Putin and The Evening, proudly surmised that Americans can’t solve any problems without Moscow, and are “wavering” and ready to talk. The host and experts jointly concluded that Trump’s hands seem to be untied, because the Mueller investigation’s ending has opened a new era of diplomatic relations between the White House and the Kremlin.

    Collusion and obstruction denials aside, there were begrudging acknowledgments that the Mueller report did indeed confirm Moscow’s campaign of election interference.
    Nevertheless, Kremlin-controlled state media on Thursday was encouraging its audiences with the notion that economic sanctions have now been exhausted and will soon be replaced with conciliatory gestures. Average Russians are being sold on the idea that Putin’s long-term strategy is bound to pay off. According to the Russian state TV, Putin always wins—even when he loses.

    This is a great illustration of the toxic combination of Fake News, Complicit Agenda Media reframing facts to fit the approved agenda and an effort to feed and encourage the internal social unrest of the questioning of the legitimacy of the election. Between the overt lies and the innuendo and insinuations, this slimy little example of Leftist propaganda will nurture the hair-on-fire loonies it is intended to stir up. Note that the conclusions seem to be drawn by a gaggle of TV hosts and pundits, much as the same kinds of conclusions are drawn here.

    Heavily redacted sections of Mueller’s report revealed that “at approximately 2:40 a.m. on Nov. 9, 2016, news reports stated that candidate Clinton had called President-elect Trump to concede,” prompting an unnamed individual, who traveled to New York alongside the Kremlin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov, to send a message to the CEO of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), Kirill Dmitriev. The message was simple: “Putin has won.”

    This line of thinking wasn’t limited to communications taking place behind the scenes. In recent years, Russian state media has made a habit out of boasting about the Kremlin’s successful influence operation, brazenly asserting “Trump is ours,” mocking the American intelligence community for sleeping “while Russia elected a new U.S. president,” and joking that U.S. lawmakers traveled to Russia “to make deals with our hackers so they can rig the midterms in favor of Trump’s team.”

    In line with Trump’s “locker-room talk” explanations, the Kremlin’s mouthpieces have consistently claimed these statements are meant only as jokes or sarcasm.

    In reality, they represent a thinly veiled pride at the reach and success of Russia’s ongoing info-ops against the U.S. Experts say a coordinated online disinformation campaign targeting 2020 elections is already underway, using techniques developed and refined by the Kremlin during the U.S. presidential election.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/president-trump/russias-mueller-report-if-putin-did-it-he-did-it-for-you/ar-BBW6JMT?ocid=spartandhp

    • Cluster April 20, 2019 / 8:42 am

      So Russia wants to sow discord in America? So do Democrats. There is very little difference between the two.

      • Amazona April 20, 2019 / 9:49 am

        They both represent arms of the International Left and the labels represent a distinction without a difference.

  15. Cluster April 20, 2019 / 8:44 am

    Not to be outdone by other virtue signalers – here’s Mitt Romney:

    ‘I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection’: Mitt Romney blasts Trump and his aides for their ‘appalling’ conduct revealed in the Mueller report – as the president’s approval rating falls

    Poor Mitt wants to stay relevant.

    The media is doubling down and patting themselves on the back for such fine reporting. Undeterred by being wrong 98% of the time on everything, they push forward knowing they will never be held accountable. I have never seen anything quite like it.

    • Amazona April 20, 2019 / 9:47 am

      Only in America can a verdict of “not guilty” cause a drop in the polls. Of course, that depends on the average American sheeple being willing to be led by the nose by a lying press claiming that a suspicion of wrongdoing from highly biased and proven lying sources is the same as being guilty.

      I am starting to wonder if 4 more years of Obama was a reasonable price to pay for not having a President Romney and a Vice President Paul Ryan. You don’t always get what you want, but sometimes you get what you need, and maybe the nation needed more of Obama and the time to get ready for Trump.

      However, this Romney quote sounds like he is castigating the disloyal and backstabbing saboteurs in the Trump camp—though it is hard to tell from that small quote

  16. Amazona April 20, 2019 / 9:58 am

    I had a fun chat with a Brit today. I reminded him that Winston Churchill was loathed, despised and called every name in the book, that he had a string of defeats and mistakes behind him and that he was often crude and vulgar and very offensive—but he was exactly what England needed in that time and place. I said that in many ways Trump is like that. He might not have been the right person for the presidency in another time or place, but he is what the United States needs now. We had a very nice chat. He said the press makes him out to be an incompetent idiot, and I said that is because the American press does not represent journalism but is now merely an arm of the American Left, doing its job to produce the stories and lies that promote and advance Leftist narratives.

    I would never put Trump in the same category as Churchill when it comes to being articulate or intellectual, but as someone who can identify problems and go at them till they are solved, while being constantly and relentlessly persecuted by the powerful Left he is an equal.

  17. Cluster April 20, 2019 / 11:06 am

    Mark Penn, who is card carrying Democrat, says it really well:

    The big difference between today and what happened in 1998 or during the Nixon era is that, at the end of the day, the Mueller investigators found no stained dress, no break-in, no hush money, no enemies list. There never was a crime, and what seemed far-fetched was simply that — this time, a duly elected president was investigated for a crime that never even existed. In fact, evidence is mounting that the investigation itself was launched on phony grounds.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/439691-mueller-done-dems-should-be-too-trump-is-no-nixon

  18. Retired Spook April 20, 2019 / 11:26 am

    I’m sure you all have heard numerous Democrat talking heads, when asked if investigation and impeachment every day/all day is going to hurt them in November, 2020. They all have exactly the same talking point, “we can walk and chew gum at the same time.” I think they’re going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt over the next 12 – 18 months that, no they can’t. It’s difficult to pursue a legislative agenda when your main driving force is hate.

  19. Cluster April 20, 2019 / 11:48 am

    Uber liberal Mark Shields with PBS:

    And the most public of sacraments that we have as a people, a presidential election, was subverted and sabotaged. And they’re about the same evil mission again with no — we ought to have that. It ought to be bipartisan. It ought to be Republicans and Democrats. And we ought to just demand that American elections be only — involve Americans.

    Tell me Mark, in terms of “subverting and sabotaging” the POTUS election, what’s the difference between Russia interference and allowing illegal immigrants to vote?

    • Retired Spook April 20, 2019 / 12:10 pm

      I’d go a step further — what is the difference between finding out after the fact the Russia interfered with our election, or deliberately advocating/allowing illegal immigrants to vote.

  20. Retired Spook April 20, 2019 / 12:07 pm

    I have, over the course of the last 10 or 15 years, compiled a lengthy file of great quotes, some by historic individuals, some anonymous and some by ordinary people on this and other blogs and alternative news sites. Over the years I’ve shared some of them when they seemed appropriate. Today I thought I start a tradition of a “Quote of the Day.”

    “When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion — when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing — when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors — when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you — when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice — you may know that your society is doomed.” – Ayn Rand — Atlas Shrugged

    • Cluster April 20, 2019 / 7:02 pm

      Wise words. And you know human nature never changes, only the times change. What were truisms centuries ago stand true today. Power corrupts. Always has, always will.

      I was thinking the other day that it might be time to shut down immigration like this country did from 1925-1965. There had been so much LEGAL immigration at the turn of the century up through 1920’s that the country was dividing itself into nationalities and ethnicities and the real need to assimilate as Americans was recognized by the powers to be. I think we are there again. I would also add that we need to start teaching capitalism and self reliance again. Just a thought, over a scotch. .

      • jdge1 April 20, 2019 / 8:35 pm

        Armed Militia are detaining large groups of migrants at the Mexican border. My guess is a growing number of patriots are fed up with the left & congress’s inability or unwillingness to address this in a manner that protects American. I can certainly see this increasing without a wall. No doubt some politicians will attempt to outlaw this but I suspect it will be difficult to stem if it becomes more widespread.

      • Amazona April 21, 2019 / 6:23 am

        The reliably radical Leftist rag The Guardian really went all-out in their shrill hysteria here and dug out a thesaurus to write the story. “Vile racism.” “White nationalists.” “Facists”” (twice) “Vigilantes.” “Xenophobia.”

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