Open Thread

Team Trump and the GOP are building a rather large ground game for 2020:

The Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee (RNC) are mobilizing thousands of volunteers in more than a dozen battleground states, including a handful that President Trump lost in 2016, as they seek to expand the electoral map ahead of 2020.

Trump Victory, a joint operation comprised of the Trump campaign, the RNC and state Republican parties, kicked off a “National Week of Training” on Friday in a bid to train more than 6,000 volunteers and register voters in 14 states that Republicans have set their sights on for 2020.

At the same time, the committee is adding to its roster of state directors overseeing its organizing efforts, hiring staffers in Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Wisconsin and Virginia, Republican officials told The Hill.

I’ve been wondering if Minnesota will correct its horrendous error of 1984, and 2020 might be the year it happens. We GOPers have looked and looked and looked at Minnesota and just haven’t been able to crack it. But, that’s how we thought about Wisconsin for the longest time, as well. In my view, the untold story of 2020 – though it will be told afterwards – is that the swing States are no longer Florida and Ohio, but Pennsylvania and Minnesota. Yes, I’ve heard the stories of Democrats surging in Texas…but, for 2020, that’s drivel. Trump will win Texas, easily. But, it can’t be taken for granted. Fortunately, the GOP is strong and well lead in Texas. Expanding the map is important, in and of itself, but I see something else at work here: Trump wants to win the popular vote, and he wants the House back. He’s got second term plans (most Presidents really don’t – which is why second terms are usually hideous and end up with the other party winning the next time around…Trump, I think, will change that).

Related: Democrats on the campaign trail are bedeviled by Trump’s strong economy.

Also Related, and enormously funny: factions of the Democrat party prepare to primary each other. Another untold story of 2020: the white, upper class, far left base of the Democrat party is going further and further left…so far left that Indys are being turned off and, just perhaps, a slice of Latino and African-American voters are being turned off, as well. Seriously: imagine yourself a middle or working class black guy…does anything these weirdos talk about resonate with you? Green New Deal? Open borders? Meanwhile, over there is Trump… and he’s at least a hell of a lot more fun than the Doofuses of Intersectionality.

The New York Times decides that the Soviets are the people to celebrate on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11. This surprises none of you.

32 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona July 21, 2019 / 8:51 am

    It is now up to the GOP to explain to the squishies—that is, the “independents” who can’t pick a party because they vacillate back and forth among ISSUES instead of committing to a specific political model—that they can still have their cherished ISSUES and vote Republican as long as they understand that these issues should be decided at the state or local level and not by the feds.

    This is the key to Constitutional governance and it is the must unexplained aspect of it. The Right opposes policies and issues without ever explaining that it isn’t always the policies or issues themselves that are the problem but the federal assumption of authority over them.

    I still believe that if the national GOP were to flood the nation with bumper stickers and billboards saying nothing but the words of the 10th Amendment, within months or even weeks people would start talking about it. Most people in this country literally do not know what it is, or even that it exists. If we can plant the concept of shifting authority back to the states from the federal government, we have won every election.

    We talk about something, like nationalized payments for health care, as being “unconstitutional” and all the Left has to do is say “Well, yes it IS” and that ends the argument—-because we never follow through with the part OF THE CONSTITUTION that says anything not specifically delegated to the federal government is forbidden to the federal government. We toss out the shorthand objection without any context for the uneducated and ignorant, and after that all the arguments are held at a different level, one that seems imposing and intimidating and too complicated for the average guy to deal with.

    I will never forget the day I pulled up the wording of the 10th Amendment on my computer screen and a co-worker asked where I got it. When I said it is part of the Constitution she was amazed—and it led to a very short but I think eye-opening chat.

    The Left has played Jenga with our society, pulling out a brick here and a brick there till it is teetering on the brink of collapse. But for some reason the Right simply cannot recognize this tactic and adopt it. The Left undermines the foundation of our society, and our Constitution, from the bottom up, one segment of our society and government at a time, and the Right watches it happen and then when the results are scary thinks it has to address the problem all at once from the top down.

    No. Do what they do. They have proved it works. Whittle away a little a time at elements the Left depends on. The most important of those is simple basic ignorance of what is going on. So we should start with eroding the two most basic and important elements of Leftist success in this country. That is, to start constantly pointing out that “socialism” is not just some benign approach of economics in which a little money is moved around to make more people happy but is a serious, major, POLITICAL structure, an actual form of government which edges its way into a society by pretending to be innocent and generous and compassionate. We need to stop letting the Left define the term by its most benign economic elements. And we need to give the under-educated American voter a little actual information.

    • Cluster July 21, 2019 / 8:58 am

      The irony is that progressives could Constitutionally have just about everything they ever wanted if they just did it within a States border. And actually in California, it’s playing out in real time and we all see the results. That too should be pointed out.

      • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:12 am

        Cluster, while you were posting this I was writing about a similar idea—-push state sovereignty and explain that if you support it (that is, support the Constitution as explained in the 10th Amendment) you don’t have to give up your issues.

  2. Cluster July 21, 2019 / 8:53 am

    …which is why second terms are usually hideous and end up with the other party winning the next time around…Trump, I think, will change that).

    The reason is because Trump is a pragmatic businessman, he just gets things done. All other Presidents have been just politicians. More interested in popularity and legacy.

    So Trump is getting aggressive for 2020 … no surprise and I think his supporters need to be aggressive too. Openly support Trump in public and with all your friends. Don’t be bashful. Let everyone know that you are firmly behind the only true American in this next POTUS election. We need to let progressives know that they are idiotic, marginalized and irrelevant. Crush their spirit and demoralize them. We need to kill this destructive movement now.

    • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:22 am

      We need to kill the movement itself and the ideologues who drive it, and shut down those who are truly committed to it even though they are committed to the fantasy created by the ideologues and not the underlying political structure that is the true agenda of the ideologues.

      As I said in a previous post, call them out. NAME them, and point out that they have blood on their hands when they encourage people, for example, to risk coming to this country illegally. They have blood on their hands when they foment racial hatreds, which so often turn violent and deadly. They have the blood of millions of tortured babies on their hands. We need to start a serious campaign of pointing out the human costs of their virtue signaling and posturing, and we need to be organized about, and not back down.

      But the bulk of Dem votes come from good people who have simply abandoned their duty to find out what is true and what is scam, who are simply sucked into the vortex of fear and hatred of the Invented Other that the Left has so skillfully created.

      For those people, who resemble people sucked into mind-killing cults (which is really what the Democrat Party has become) we need to shine light on the dark ugly reality of the Left. Strip away the pretense that it is about compassion, about helping people. And stomp on, with great vigor, every effort to present “socialism” as nothing more than a benign, harmless little effort to move a little money around to “help” people. Yes, there is an economic principle called “socialism” but what the Left is really promoting is the brutal, inflexible and tyrannical POLITICAL structure that is REAL socialism, hiding behind the happy-face “leveling the playing field” lure of economic equality.

      • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:34 am

        A brief reminder: In East Germany, under control of the Soviets after WW II, there was a secret police organization called the Stasi. They were nominally German but under the control of the USSR or Soviets, and the arm of oppression in East Germany.

        At the Stasi Museum in Berlin I photographed part of a display of what was expected of Stasi officers. They pledged “..to protect against all enemies” and “be prepared to give (their) life in the struggle against enemies of socialism”.

        This was as late as 1982. Does this sound like some airy-fairy happy little transfer of wealth to make some people more comfortable?

        When you drill down to the heart of socialism you find a core of people determined to defend the political structure even with their lives, while imposing it on others. Socialism is serous stuff, and it has been whitewashed, trivialized and disguised so effectively that even our “leaders” can’t identify it or define it, much less recognize its dangers.

        They say “look at Venezuela” and drop it. Their focus is on the economic disaster the political system brought about, and though that is significant and important we are not educating people about the fact that the economic system could not have failed if the political system had not shifted to one of absolute tyranny and loss of liberty.

      • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:53 am

        This is from a long PDF file I didn’t take the time to download. I am highlighting what I think is most important, though it is all chilling. It is a description of East Germany under Soviet (Socialist) control, and much of what it describes is unnervingly familiar, part of life in the United States today, though not yet quite as pervasive.

        (Note: the reference to Thousands of human scents stored in glass jars, is about the practice of the Stasi to put so much pressure on people being interrogated that they would become quite nervous, and they would be seated on cushions with removable fabric covers and required to sit on their hands so as much as possible of their individual odors could be transferred to the fabric. The cushion covers were then removed and stored in labeled glass jars to preserve the odor, in case the Socialists found need to send dogs after the people. Today we have DNA files.)

        One hundred seventy-eight kilometers of archival material. Personal files on six million individuals. Forty million index cards. One million pictures and negatives. Thousands of human scents stored in glass jars, 91,015 full-time employees, 174,000 “unofficial” informants. The highest surveillance rate (agents to population) in history. Husbands spying on wives. Colleagues snitching on co-workers. Informants posing as dissidents. State officials harboring Red Army Faction terrorists. “Romeo” agents preying on hapless secretaries. Commandos kidnapping alleged traitors from West Germany. Agent provocateurs infiltrating literary groups and church circles.

        The East German Ministry of State Security (MfS), popularly known as the Stasi, has long had a reputation as one of the world’s most ruthless, efficient, and omnipotent secret police. The MfS went to extraordinary lengths to protect the regime of the East German communist party, the Socialist Unity Party (SED). It had virtually all of society under surveillance. It facilitated and sometimes even manipulated East German economic, political, and cultural developments. It had a destructive effect on the lives and careers of many East Germans and some West Germans.

        https://muse.jhu.edu/article/170409/summary

        The Left howls when we remind them that the Nazis, whom they claim to revile while using them as role models, were Socialists. “BUT…” they howl, “the word “Socialist” in the name of their party didn’t really MEAN Socialist…” Yet two of the most repressive, vicious and tyrannical regimes in recent history were officially SOCIALIST. Not economically socialistic, but SOCIALIST. The whole “free stuff” and transfer of wealth from the productive to the dependent is only window dressing, bait to lure the lazy, the greedy, the resentful and the gullible into the actual trap of real, brutal, Socialism.

        So when you talk about the “…need to let progressives know that they are idiotic, marginalized and irrelevant…” one approach is so be scornful of the ignorance of the true definition of Socialism, to ridicule people who are so gullible they think it is just a rather benign moving around of OPM and nothing to fear, to come right out and tell them they are too lazy to even find out what they are talking about.

      • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:58 am

        We already have our government, under the direction of much of Congress, enacting the philosophy and tactics of the head of one of the other most feared and brutal secret police organizations of Socialism, that of Josef Stalin, as we have our agencies first identifying a man and then working to find a crime.

        And we already have officials as well as civilians demanding that people be punished not for what they do but for what they think and believe.

        We are so much closer to the regimes I have identified it is scary, and most of the people in this country are absolutely ignorant of what is happening, how far it has gone or how fast it has been moving.

  3. Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:11 am

    What does the GOP do with its money?

    No, that is a serious question. I see a lot of money spent trying to get more money—many mailings, many phone calls, a staff of electronic media people sending out the same email requests. But where does the money go?

    I would like to see an experiment. You know, like scientists do. Send postcards containing nothing but the words of the oath of office of the House of Representatives to every Independent-registered voter in the states that elected the squad pack. Forget the Dems. Who cares about them? Most are so locked into, not being pro-Dem but being anti-Republican, they are impervious. But hit the squishies in the middle with nothing but the very words their representatives say when they take a solemn oath of office. Or just send it to the Independents in the districts that elected the most radical, unAmerican, representatives. Just try it. Just see if enough of them read the words and then look at the people they voted for and realize that these elected people are not doing what they have taken an oath to do. We don’t need to impress all of them, just a few. If a vote difference is 1000, we don’t need to get all 1000 of those votes, just a few over 500.

    Spend a few million dollars on a mass mailing of nice glossy postcards containing nothing but the words of the 10th Amendment to every Independent in the country, or at least in the blue states. Just those words, with the identifier of being an actual PART OF THE CONSTITUTION. Because I will flat-out guarantee you that most don’t know this. At the same time send bumper stickers to all registered Republicans asking them to put them on their cars, and buy some billboard time on highways and the major streets clogged with commuters every morning.

    And then shut up and let people start talking about it. Some will be angry and offended. Some will ignore it all. But some will be intrigued, will discuss it over coffee at work, will start to ask themselves or each other what IS delegated, will start to ask themselves or each other if this or that complies with the amendment.

    It’s not an inflammatory statement, likely to get you run off the road or get your car vandalized. It is simply a sentence from our Constitution. Standing alone, it would alarm those who do understand it and count on the populace not knowing about it, but it shouldn’t be as antagonizing as, say, a MAGA hat. And let people rage and rave about it, because a hysterical objection to simply seeing the words of our own Constitution in public will do more to nudge the squishies away from that radicalism and hatred of our country than we can do on our own.

    And let the talk show hosts pick up and talk about what it means, about the advantages of state control over plans and policies. Let them explain how much money is siphoned off at the federal level for every policy before any money trickles down to the states where the policy is implemented, and how One Size Fits All is a stupid idea in such a huge and varied land of ours. Plant the seeds and hope it spurs some understanding and discourse. Let them talk about the dangers of concentrating all power in one place, making it easier for corruption to settle in.

    And if it doesn’t make a difference, no harm has been done. The GOP would just have frittered that money away on something we never know about anyway.

    • Cluster July 21, 2019 / 9:30 am

      Another good message for Brad Pasquale, campaign manager for Trump 2020

      • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 9:42 am

        Any idea how to get any message at all through to anyone in the campaign? I haven’t been able to find a way

      • Cluster July 21, 2019 / 10:29 am

        Not sure on my end. Mark?

  4. Cluster July 21, 2019 / 11:29 am

    We are so much closer to the regimes I have identified it is scary, and most of the people in this country are absolutely ignorant of what is happening, how far it has gone or how fast it has been moving.

    That is 100% correct and why we all need to be very vocal about our support for Trump and traditional American values.

    • Amazona July 21, 2019 / 3:03 pm

      Yes, BUT….merely supporting Trump and traditional American values is only part of the solution. We have to explain WHY we are doing this. “traditional American values” is, to too many people, a vague and indefinite term which can also be used, as we have seen, as a claim of racism.

      No, we need to get well past cliches and phrases that can be redefined. “American values” is not good enough. It has to be a clear CHOICE between the Constitution (which we have to explain at least in small bite-sized bits, like the 10th Amendment) and a Central Authority that not only controls all of us but which is diametrically opposed to the Constitution.

      Not all Americans reject the Constitution and we have to make them understand that accepting Socialism IS rejecting it.

      And I cringe at asking people to support a person rather than a concept of governance. Yes, in the case of Trump they happen to be one and the same, but just saying “we need to support Trump” is inadequate. Yes, WE do–but our support is not going to change anyone else’s mind, is not going to convince anyone else that voting for the Republican candidate is not the same as giving up a cherished issue but is just changing the way that issue will be handled.

  5. Cluster July 22, 2019 / 8:40 am

    I just want to say this to Joe and Mika Scarborough, please call your mother and complain to her. She’s the only one who cares how you feel.

    MSNBC should rebrand themselves as the “Race all day, everyday” channel. It’s comical with each panelist taking turns telling the audience on how they and other people “feel” when Trump “attacks” them. It’s like a 3 hour children’s therapy session. Honestly watching MSNBC anymore is like watching a closed meeting of DNC operatives and activists. Oh wait …

    I then I read this:

    Thousands of New Yorkers were left without power on Sunday as the city reached scorching temperatures over 100F degrees. Over 50,000 Con Edison customers across all five New York boroughs and in northern suburbs lost power by 10pm ET on Sunday as temperatures boiled in the 90s and Brooklyn reached a heat index of 102F

    This is just another feature though of living in a Democrat governed city. People shitting on the streets, open drug use, illegal immigrant crime, and now rolling blackouts.

  6. Cluster July 22, 2019 / 8:55 am

    Just an observation but I think the fact that the Avengers movie is the top box office movie illustrates the level of maturity in this country. We really have become a nation of overly sensitive, poorly educated children.

    And Joe Scarborough just admitted to being a huge Avengers fan. No surprise.

    • Retired Spook July 22, 2019 / 9:13 am

      We really have become a nation of overly sensitive, poorly educated children.

      And the sad thing is that’s by design. People who have not been taught how to think are much more easily controlled. I guess we should be thankful that our current entertainment involves fantasy-based movies and not a coliseum where conservatives are fed to the lions.

      • Cluster July 22, 2019 / 9:27 am

        People who have not been taught how to think are much more easily controlled.

        Exactly. Then add the element of fear – “WHITE SUPREMACY!!” and you have a completely pliable population.

        Overload the system – Cloward-Piven

      • Amazona July 22, 2019 / 8:51 pm

        Bread and circuses…………..keep the human livestock placid and entertained so they can be harvested for votes and sent in to attack the opposition.

        Drugs, alcohol, Hollywood nonsense and fantasy, trinkets like cell phones and piercings and tattoos, and the ability to feel powerful and relevant and morally superior while really just wallowing in personality disorders–that’s how they are kept on the plantation.

  7. Cluster July 22, 2019 / 10:17 am

    20 years ago, Hugo Chavez assumed the Presidency of Venezuela with the promise of Democratic Socialism and equality. At the time, Venezuela was one of the most prosperous countries in the world with the one of the largest crude oil reserves.

    Today, just 20 years later, people are starving and fleeing the country of Venezuela. Yet white, guilt ridden liberals in America are still promoting the promise of Democratic Socialism for America.

    That’s how stupid this country is.

    • Retired Spook July 22, 2019 / 10:29 am

      Well, that’s “how stupid” the Left THINKS the country is. November, 2020, will tell us what percentage.

      And anytime someone promises “equality,” you can bet it’s equality of the lowest common denominator, except, of course, for a select few at the top who are more equal.

      • Cluster July 22, 2019 / 11:47 am

        True. I do think Trump will win in a landslide …

  8. Cluster July 22, 2019 / 2:58 pm

    No commentary needed

    • Amazona July 22, 2019 / 8:52 pm

      Would it be “hate speech” to flood her office with brassieres?

  9. Retired Spook July 23, 2019 / 9:38 am

    Quote of the Day:

    Our party has been accused of fooling the public by calling tax increases ‘revenue enhancement’. Not so. No one was fooled. — J. Danforth Quayle

    • Cluster July 23, 2019 / 10:06 am

      I am beyond disgusted with everyone in Washington. Record tax revenues this year yet we have record deficits. Every elected representative should forfeit an annual salary for being a dishonest moron. Seriously, it’s not that hard to spend less than you take in. We could eliminate 20% of all federal spending and wouldn’t notice a thing.

      THEY ARE CROOKS

  10. Cluster July 23, 2019 / 10:40 am

    Joe Scarborough asked the Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson whether the time had come “to sound the alarm? When is the time to start saying, ‘Well, does this look like Germany in 1932? Does this look like Germany in 1933?'”

    Robinson replied, “The time to start sounding an alarm — a general alarm was some time ago.” He explicitly mentioned the notion that columnists generally refrain from making the Hitler analogy, but that we’re “getting close” to being obliged to do so, and that the current situation “is crazy and it does not end well.”

    Let’s encourage this line of thinking on the left and feed their irrational fears at every opportunity..I honestly want to see them lose their minds.

    The more they “sound the alarm” the more I contribute to and support Trump

    • Amazona July 23, 2019 / 3:21 pm

      I can’t get past the idea that the solution is just to support Trump. Actually, I reject the idea that the solution is just to support Trump.

      The solution is to start explaining why we have to support Trump.

      Yes, it is past time to sound the alarm, and I blame most conservatives for being too spineless to do so. We are so caught up in Identity Politics, trying to fight the Identity Politics of the Left with our own version, The Battle Of The Personas, that we have lost sight of the real difference between the two opposing concepts of how to govern the nation.

      “Sound The Alarm”? You bet. Point out that while the Hitler analogy is defective, as we have no leader in high office even remotely analogous to Hitler himself, we DO have a government sliding rapidly in the direction of the government style Hitler represented. The Left wants to focus on the man (Identity Politics) and not on the structure of the political system he headed, or how it operated or its effect on the populace. And we tend to let them get away with it.

      Hitler represented a Socialist governing structure, just as Stalin did. For all the internal squabbling and conflicts between the two systems, they are essentially, internally, nearly the same. They were both collectivist systems dependent on a massively powerful and controlling Central Authority. Both used the power of the State to spy on, and control, the population. Both demanded allegiance to the State above all else, including allegiance to God or to the family. Both used the State to punish and even destroy people not for what they did but for what they thought and believed. Both believed that the elimination of opposition, by death, was acceptable.

      And yes, they WERE “Socialist”. In Germany, they had the National Socialist Party. No matter how desperately the American Left tries to distance itself from the socialism of Hitler’s Germany, claiming that a government which encouraged capitalism could not be socialist, in fact the political system of Hitler’s Germany was hard-core Socialist, with some tolerance for the economic system of capitalism—as long as it was controlled by, and benefited, the government. When the Soviets ruled East Germany an oath of loyalty to the Soviet-run GDR included the oath to even die to protect and defend Socialism. So yes, the evils of both nations can be, and MUST be, traced directly back to the political structure of Socialism. Why do we have so much trouble understanding this, and articulating this? Why do so many of us get sucked into the Leftist trap of equating an economic system with a political system?

      So it is late to sound the alarm, though hopefully not too late. And just wearing a Trump jersey and “supporting him” is not going to do the job of turning around the juggernaut of Leftist control that is on the verge of plunging this nation into a death spiral.

      Go back to my list of characteristics of Socialist governance— collectivist systems dependent on a massively powerful and controlling Central Authority, using the power of the State to spy on and control the population, demanding allegiance to the State above all else, including allegiance to God or to the family, using the State to punish and even destroy people not for what they did but for what they think and believe, and approaching the conviction that the elimination of opposition, by death, is acceptable. I just described the United States in 2019. I didn’t even mention the near-complete control of the media by one political system, common in Hitler’s Germany, Stalin’s USSR and today’s United States.

      And not a single characteristic is due to the presidency of Donald Trump. Not a single one is characteristic of conservative political philosophy. Every single thing I have described is part and parcel of LEFTIST governance.

      So when some moron (or worse, some active agent of the Left) spouts something like ” ‘Well, does this look like Germany in 1932? Does this look like Germany in 1933?’ it is a feeble and foolish response to just say “Well, I really really really support Trump”. No, we have to say “Thank you for pointing that out, and here are the reasons we are starting to look like Germany in 1932 and 33—it is because we are on the same destructive path of Socialism that led to the full-blown tyranny and carnage of 1938 and 1939 and then mention government surveillance, the midnight knocks on the door by heavily armed militaristic police, the identification of people first followed by a search for crimes they might have committed and the idea that people can and should be punished not for what they DO but for what they THINK and BELIEVE.” Because there are examples for every one of these things, and every one of them leads back to control by some Leftist agency.

      When a Lefty opens a door, like Robinson did, someone has to go through it.

      • Amazona July 23, 2019 / 3:59 pm

        We don’t need to get into long-winded lectures on political philosophy, but we do need to be well grounded enough to come back with a quick rebuttal.

        For example, instead of arguing about whether Hitler’s Nazi German was “really socialist” and was instead “right-wing” because it encouraged private ownership of the means of production, I think that could be shut down with a scathing and condescending comment that this is why Leftists don’t make sense—-they doesn’t even understand the difference between a political system and an economic model.

        The same comment holds true when someone explains that Sweden is an example of the success of socialism—its economic success has been due to its capitalism economic model, and that economic success is rapidly eroding due to the increasing demands made on it by the more socialist social engineering aspects of the government—and some contempt for not even knowing the difference between an economic model and a political one.

        Someone arguing that “socialism” or “democratic socialism” would be great could, and should, be met with the observation that the economic aspect of socialism—the confiscation of private property for redistribution by the State—-is just a step toward the full political model, which is what we should be discussing, not just the superficial pleasure of some people getting something for nothing. And,again, a certain amount of scorn for the inability to know the difference, to know there even IS a difference, between an economic system and political one.

        I have started to challenge people to define “right wing” and no one can. No one. At least not in political terms, just in vague platitudes centered on poor character. Ask someone how a belief that our nation should be run according to its own laws and internal system is related in any way to the character defects the Left associates with “the Right” and you get a dropped jaw and a blank look. Huh? “So if I believe that the United States works best if we follow the Constitution, how does that make the leap from a political concept to thinking some races are inferior to others?” When I am told the Founders were racist and the Constitution is racist and based on white supremacy, I love it, because that is a chance to sneer “You need to study American history so you can know what you are talking about, and I mean real American history, not the crap the Left feeds you, because repeating that just makes you look stupid”.

        In other words, I don’t attack the person so much as the source of information the person is basing his or her half-baked “opinions” on, and basically making fun of anyone who buys into that nonsense without even making an effort to find out the truth. Some people love to fight, but few like to be scorned and dismissed.

        And of course there is the great comment: I would agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong

      • Amazona July 23, 2019 / 6:31 pm

        Conveying the message that there is a difference between a political system and an economic one is an uphill battle, made harder by things like a Gallup poll: one Gallup survey even reports that Democrats currently view socialism more positively than capitalism.

        Arrrggghhh !!!!!

  11. Retired Spook July 23, 2019 / 11:17 am

    How ironic that Bernie agrees to pay his staff $15/hour and then cuts their hours.

    I think the solution would be to just pay everyone in the country $50/hour. Who could possibly object to that? OK, a few CEO’s would have to take a pay cut, but it would be for the greater good.

  12. Cluster July 23, 2019 / 1:15 pm

    I wonder if Al Franken will become a Republican. LMAO

    Watch out for the progressive mob Al … they eat their own

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