Open Thread

This is certainly interesting:

In Washington state, where his approval rating is 28 points underwater, Trump has still racked up far more donations, big and small, than any of the Democratic candidates — in fact more than the top six Democrats combined.

I’m not talking about total dollars raised — though on that front Trump is a juggernaut, too. But the total number of donations reflects how many people are inspired enough by a candidate to send any amount of money, sometimes repeatedly.

This is Blue Washington. Where you often have to think twice about the risk to your job and social standing if you support the wrong candidate or party. Does this mean Trump will win Washington. No. It’d take a miracle. But, it does show that Trump is not just gaining support, but gaining support which is willing to take a public stand. I’ve been thinking that public opinion polling for this cycle is off because the pollsters simply don’t know about the country they’re living in – that we’re actually very much a populist, center/right nation and that a large part of the populist, center/right people are (now former) Democrats. We’ll find out next year if my theory is correct…but unless the vote comes out that way, I refuse to believe that even a large minority of my fellow Americans are Antifa-loving, open borders trans rights activists.

The Ninth Circuit (yes, that Ninth Circuit) seems to have a struck a blow against the Left’s tactic of finding a judge in Hawaii to issue nationwide injunctions against Trump Administration policies. We’ll see how it plays out – but the higher Courts do have to gain a measure of control here if they don’t want to get crushed under politics. It is ridiculous that some obscure federal judge out there can stop the policy of the duly elected President on a whim. To me, it should be only the Supreme Court able to issue nationwide injunctions.

The New York Times is framing slavery as being central to our existence as a nation. And Beto was out there saying that our nation was founded on racism. Don’t look for any logic behind this view: there isn’t any. It is entirely stupid – but I’ve been pondering this and I recalled the first time I heard this theory. I had watched Farrakhan’s speech at his so-called “million man march” and that is exactly what he was on about: that white people are inherently racist and America is, thus, inherently racist. To call America a racist nation is to assert that everything which has happened in this nation up until just now was evil. I’m not quite sure what the Left’s thinking here is – it could be that hatred has just made them stupid. I don’t know how many people are going to rush out and vote a party which considers your nation evil.

Epstien’s attorneys are not entirely on board with the suicide ruling. I don’t think anyone – left or right – is. But, I also don’t think there’s any way to resolve this: the institutions of government have poisoned the well. Too often caught in flat out lies to be trusted: there’s no way to investigate something like Epstein’s death and remove all doubts.

24 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook August 19, 2019 / 9:47 am

    In Washington state, where his approval rating is 28 points underwater, Trump has still racked up far more donations, big and small, than any of the Democratic candidates

    That’s not the least bit hard to believe. My wife and I drove to Seattle and went on a 7-day Alaska cruise in August, 2016, to celebrate our 50th anniversary. Upon leaving Seattle we drove diagonally across the state, cut across the northeast corner or Oregon and then across Idaho. Once we were clear of Seattle, we never saw a Hillary campaign sign, only Trump signs — LOTS OF TRUMP SIGNS.

    • M. Noonan August 19, 2019 / 10:58 pm

      But it seems that even in Seattle, Trumpsters are coming out of the woodwork. I’ve also seen some indications that GOP voter registration is doing very well in FL, NC and NV; and at least holding even in PA, IA, AZ and NH. Personally, I think Ohio is solid red and FL is going to become solid red…without a corrupt election official in charge of Broward, the Democrats can’t cheat…and so the real sentiment of FL will finally come through. We’ll see how it comes out, but I’m thinking pretty positive right now.

      • Retired Spook August 20, 2019 / 9:01 am

        I’m thinking pretty positive right now.

        So am I. I think early on a lot of people were afraid to show public support for Trump, both to friends and polsters. But two things have happened since Trump took office — actually three things: Most people who cringed every time Trump said something or tweeted something offensive (I belong in this category) realized this is just who trump is, plus we love the effect it has on the Left; Trump is actually keeping his promises in spite of Democrats and Leftist judges attempting to thwart him 24/7; and lastly, I think the number of people who are better off than they were under Obama is monumentally greater than anyone in the media wants to admit. I’d even ad a fourth dynamic: Trump is the most anti-war president we’ve had in my lifetime, something that appeals to many on both sides of the aisle, so the warmonger accusations of early on have been pretty well laid to rest.

      • M. Noonan August 20, 2019 / 11:24 am

        I figure only two types are impervious to Trump: the dyed-in-the-wool Never Trump FredoCons and the far left…and both for the same reason: they can’t ever admit they were wrong.

  2. Retired Spook August 19, 2019 / 11:28 am

    I’ve been thinking a lot about China lately. Most of the articles I’ve read advance the notion that we are going to lose a protracted trade war with China. I’m so far removed from my minor in economics in college, that whatever I knew about the ramifications of tariffs, both good and bad, is long gone from my memory banks. I do recall that tariffs were the main source of federal revenue prior to the implementation of the income tax in 1913.

    Logic would seem to dictate that, since we buy 5 times more from China than they do from us, the leverage is on our side. OTOH, they don’t give two sh*ts about any economic harm to their citizens resulting from tariffs, so advantage China. Conversely, a significant economic downturn like China is currently going through reflects badly on their leadership. Xi may be President for Life, but he doesn’t run the country alone. What happens if conditions get so bad that the massive demonstrations in Hong Kong spread to the mainland?

    The U.S. balance of trade deficit has been increasing since Trump took office, but that could well be because our economy is in batter shape than most of the rest of the world, and we are simply in an economic position to buy more than most of them do, both in terms of consumer goods as well as capital equipment and raw materials.

    I’m kind of rambling here – what can I say, it’s Monday morning. I don’t know if The Count still monitors this blog, but I’d love to hear his thoughts on the current situation.

  3. Retired Spook August 19, 2019 / 2:42 pm

    Yet more evidence that Liberalism is a mental disorder, and that many, if not most on the Left hate this country.

    • Amazona August 19, 2019 / 8:01 pm

      From your link: Well, what we know is that white support for universal programs declines if they think that large numbers of black people are going to benefit from it. And more crap just like it. I forget who it was who said that a problem with those on the Left is that they know so much that isn’t true. Reagan?

      I have a question for every black person in the United States, or at least every black person who can trace his or her lineage back to slavery: If your slave ancestor or ancestors had not been brought to this country, what do you think your life would be like now? Followup: Most parents believe their sacrifices are worth it if they lead to better lives for their children. Do you think your ancestors would feel that what they went through was worth it, as it has led to you living in this country as it is now, leading the life you lead now?

      I’m betting that none of those asked these questions would say they wish they had been born back in Africa, in the same number of generations past that of the slave ancestor, rather than being born here.

      Modern DNA testing claims to be able to pinpoint with some accuracy the actual part of the world where our ancestry is based. So we should be able to test the DNA of any black person here, get a pretty good idea of his or her area of origin, and I’d love to see (and would contribute to) a program which would send these people back to those countries for a week or a month, and pay for relocation if they were to decide the native land was a better place for them to live. Let’s compare an African American blessed with good nutrition and the opportunity to get an education with a native of his area of origin, and see who comes out better.

      Yeah, the ancestors got a raw deal. It sucks that their fellow Africans captured them and sold them into slavery, and they had pretty rough lives. But their descendants have had opportunities available to them from birth—from before birth, thanks to medical advances and nutrition—-that eclipse anything those ancestors could have dreamed of, and anything the descendants of those who stayed in Africa have been born to.

      I am so tired of the whining and the carrying-on and the posturing and the whole melodrama. Just STFU and be people, who happen to have more skin pigment than a lot of others, and drop the whole mishmash of victimhood and resentment and self pity and hatred.

      • Retired Spook August 19, 2019 / 10:29 pm

        To use a little Brit lingo — SPOT ON!

      • Amazona August 19, 2019 / 11:09 pm

        Be careful with that cultural appropriation, Spook. Remember a few years ago when I used a British term, “whingeing”, and one of the regular posters whined that I was “pretending to be British”?

      • Retired Spook August 20, 2019 / 10:10 am

        Well, my reply to anyone accusing me of British cultural appropriation: Sod off!

      • Amazona August 20, 2019 / 5:13 pm

        I think “cultural appropriation” is one of the goofiest of many seriously goofy Leftist ideas. If they can even be called ideas. More like brain farts. But consistent with the Left’s war on commerce. Imagine Mexican restaurants that only have customers who are Mexican. Chinese restaurants depending solely on Chinese customers wouldn’t last a month.

    • simoneee9 August 21, 2019 / 10:49 am

      • Amazona August 21, 2019 / 8:59 pm

        Where to start? Well, with simoneeeeek it is always easy to start with his lies.

        His quote is seriously misleading. Donald Trump did not declare himself to be the King of Israel. Yes, it chaps the donkeys of the Left to know that Trump is loved in Israel. Poor babies, they desperately want to have the entire world share in their sick pathetic hatefest. But in fact Trump is loved in Israel, and why not? He has stood for the sovereignty of Israel more than any other American president, at a time when members of the Congress of the United States are supporting the terrorist regimes dedicated to killing all Jews and destroying their nation. He is so highly thought of that Israel just named a new settlement after him.

        From a speech about this event: “…very great friend of the State of Israel, President Donald Trump, who recently recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights. He is the first international leader to have done so. He tore the mask off this hypocrisy, which does not recognize what is self-evident.”

        After this great honor and the praise from the government of Israel, a radio host Tweeted: “Israelis love Trump “like he’s the King of Israel. They love him like he is the second coming of God.” Now, keep in mind that this is obviously hyperbole, as no one IN Israel, or anywhere else, ever referred to Trump as the King of Israel or said he was loved like the second coming of God. But to the feeble and hate-driven mind of the Left, this was like pouring gasoline on an always-raging fire.

        Then Trump referenced the comment in one of his tweets. Note that he did not say he was the King of Israel. Note that he openly quoted a third party. What he said was:

        “Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world…and the Jewish people in Israel love him….

        ….like he’s the King of Israel. They love him like he is the second coming of God…But American Jews don’t know him or like him. They don’t even know what they’re doing or saying anymore. It makes no sense! But that’s OK, if he keeps doing what he’s doing, he’s good for…..


        Now we all understand the mental weakness of simon, as he illustrates it so well and so often, so it is not a surprise that he might have thought this meant Trump WAS the Kind of Israel, or that someone said he was. It is not even a surprise that he might have thought someone actually said Trump was the second coming of God. After all, we all know the boy ain’t bright. But we also know that he could have understood the use of the word LIKE and just preferred to cast his snotnugget post in a different light, because he is also a weasel.

  4. simoneee9 August 21, 2019 / 10:48 am

    Art of the deal, folks:

    • Retired Spook August 21, 2019 / 12:02 pm

      Well that does it; I’m going to vote for one of the Commies instead of Trump//sarc

    • M. Noonan August 21, 2019 / 4:13 pm

      You simply never will get it, Simon. Or, at least, you won’t get it until you switch off MSNBC and recover a sense of humor.

  5. Retired Spook August 21, 2019 / 1:06 pm

    The guy on the treadmill next to me at the Y this morning made a crude comment about something on the CNN monitor in front of us that was anti-Trump. Yeah, I know — I was shocked too. Then he turned to me and said he apologized for his language in case I wasn’t a Trump fan. I told him I was and we talked for 15 minutes. He made a statement about Trump that I had not heard anyone say before that I thought was right on the money. He said what most anti-Trumpers don’t seem to realize is that, first and foremost, Trump is a showman. While his detractors paint things that he says as being a litany of lies (thousands and thousands of lies), it’s really nothing more than a showman who engages in hyperebole, exaggeration and bombast. I guess I’ve thought that for some time now, I just never heard it put into words before.

  6. rgrg2 August 21, 2019 / 6:44 pm

    Trump is a showman. While his detractors paint things that he says as being a litany of lies (thousands and thousands of lies), it’s really nothing more than a showman who engages in hyperebole, exaggeration and bombast.

    That’s what we want leading the free world. Nothing more than a showman who engages in hyperbole, exaggeration and bombast.

    Do you guys ever stop and think about what you’re saying?

    • Retired Spook August 21, 2019 / 8:03 pm

      For those of us who are results oriented, we don’t really care about his demeanor, just the results, and by virtually every metric, things are better for more people than they ever were under Obama.

    • Amazona August 21, 2019 / 8:33 pm

      rgrg2, you need to realize that no one cares what bothers you.

      I happen to know Spook, both personally and as a B4V blogger, and I can guarantee that he does not think of Trump as nothing more than a showman. It’s the hyperbole, exaggeration and bombast, WHEN THEY OCCUR, that constitute his showmanship.

      And I am sure you know that. It’s just that you are so essentially dishonest and so deeply invested in Trump hatred that you just couldn’t wait to pounce on this wording. It takes so little to make certain kinds of minds happy.

      • rgrg2 August 21, 2019 / 8:43 pm

        Well, he lies–er, I mean, speaks in hyperbole, exaggeration and bombast–pretty much every time he opens his mouth. So I’m not sure you can credibly claim that he is only a showman some of the time. Oh wait… maybe you mean he is a corrupt con man the rest of the time. I guess you do have a point.

      • Amazona August 21, 2019 / 9:10 pm

        Oh, rgrg, you poor silly sap, you. It’s time to remind you of the Rule of Holes: In this case, as you are in a hole, you really ought to stop digging.

        I am sure that in the kinds of circles you are no doubt limited to occupying, this kind of insipid snarling might be considered kind of witty, Be assured that among sane and normal people it is only half-witted.

        But you just continue wallowing like the rest of the swine in that fetid mud-and-s**t-hole you have created with your irrational hatred and blind loathing. It appears to meet your intellectual and political standards, such as they are.

        Donald Trump at his worst can, and does, run circles around you guys, leading you into the kinds of breathless and fretful posts you simply HAD to write, the pressure was so great. And we love watching him do it, and watching you bite every time and scurry to your keyboards to remind us, in case we forgot, just how pathetic you are, having chosen wild-eyed drooling loathing over reason.

        And remember, we have not forgotten your swooning over a REAL con man, a guy who corralled your love and admiration entirely on an invented image with absolutely nothing to back it up, the emptiest of empty suits. You not only fell for the biggest con in the history of the US presidency, you have fallen again for the second-biggest, the pack of lies and smears about Trump.

        And you INSIST on constantly reminding us of this. If we can assure you that we get it, will you shut up and go away?

      • rgrg2 August 21, 2019 / 9:47 pm

        haha. At least you are honest enough to admit that owning the libs is at the root of your politics.

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