Open Thread

In the Romney vs Trump battle, I can only say that it is the last straw for me: I am done, forever, with people like Romney. I can understand why someone might not like Trump but if you’re a Republican, your job is to advance the fortunes of the Republican Party – to propose Republican things. To make Republicans look as good as you can. To battle back against the Democrats. There was so much Romney could have done…and among all the things he could choose from, he decides to go after Trump…which no Republican was asking for him to do (Trump’s approval rating among GOPers is in the 95% range). So, what is Romney up to? In my view, its one of two things or it could be both: his own family is deep into garbage like the Bidens are and Trump refused Romney as SecState. I regret deeply voting for Romney in 2012 and I’m glad he lost.

If you listen to the Left and Never Trump (BIRM), Trump is already finished…its only a matter of a short time before he’s forced out (Romney’s thing was scripted into this, I’m sure). They believe this because, seriously, they only talk to themselves. Lots of things may happen to Trump – but being forced out over a clear hit job by the Democrats isn’t one of them.

Related: McConnell is doing anti-impeachment ads. This tells you what the fate of impeachment will be in Cocaine Mitch’s Senate should Nancy be forced to call a vote (she does not want to).

AOC says Trump’s attacks on Schiff are anti-Semitic. The most common response to this accusation from Trump supporters (myself included): he’s Jewish? Didn’t know that.

Related: anti-Semitic hate crimes are rising fast in Progressive NYC. Why? Because Progressives welcome anti-Semites. It is really that simple.

98 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona October 5, 2019 / 10:14 pm

    Schiff is Jewish? I thought he was a Meerkat.

    • Cluster October 6, 2019 / 10:58 am

      hahahahaha I just saw this … too funny

  2. Amazona October 5, 2019 / 10:28 pm

    Mitt not only missed the bus, he doesn’t seem to know there is one.

    • Cluster October 6, 2019 / 9:00 am

      Many of the conservative women who once saw him as a boor have come to believe that for too long they were focused on the wrong qualities in presidential candidates. They wanted someone pious when they should have been looking for someone who could throw punches.

      “I endorsed Rick Santorum in 2012. And Mike Huckabee,” said Penny Young Nance, who signed the statement in 2016 of anti-abortion activists opposing Mr. Trump. “But at the end of the day, I’m not sure those guys I love and admire would have had the guts to do what Trump has done,” she added.

      I can’t think of any other human being who could have withstood the onslaught of attacks leveled by the Democrats over the last 3 years and of which continue today … other than Trump. And think about that statement for a minute. Why does a Republican president have to “withstand the relentless assault”?? Bush received much of the same treatment but he went silent and ignored it. They called him Hitler, wanted him impeached, made movies of his assassination, etc. This is grotesque behavior by any measure but it seems standard operating procedure in the Democrat party.

      I know many of us despised the way Obama governed this country but we did not screech and wail and call for his impeachment every hour of every day, nor would we. We understand checks and balances and election cycles and act like adults. Sadly we can not expect that same behavior from Democrats. so thank God we have a street fighter in the Oval Office, and this time we will not let the Democrats up off the mat. They have proven themselves to be despicable and unworthy.

      • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 9:23 am

        I don’t think what I think of a “legacy Democrats” are “despicable and unworthy”—they are the Old Style Dems, in the political mold of John Kennedy. That is, with similar love of country, similar goals, just a different approach to achieving those goals which was that the federal government should step in and solve problems for us. It’s hard to change the habits of a lifetime, or several generations, especially when your traditional party has worked so hard to demonize the opposition. I think some just don’t pay attention and some take the halfway measure of moving to Independent. We on the Right do a pathetic job of appealing to these people, explaining the core differences and pointing out the silliness of Identity Politics.

        I think we need to understand the difference between legacy Dems and the New Left Dems—the latter have adopted the Marxist concept that “…the good is whatever helps achieve the socialist utopia. The bad is whatever hinders it”, or at least the ideologues have. The rest, like Schiff, are just opportunists, vile people who see Leftism as a way to gain power and money, or they are the truly profoundly ignorant and stupid like Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee and their ilk. This latter group, the ideologues and the opportunists and the dumb-as-dirt faction, who overtly and actively lie, smear and connive, does fit your description.

      • Cluster October 6, 2019 / 9:38 am

        I don’t think what I think of a “legacy Democrats” are “despicable and unworthy”—they are the Old Style Dems, in the political mold of John Kennedy

        These Democrats voted for Trump in 2016 and will again in 2020. They are in the process of abandoning the Democrat party leaving it to the people you characterized in your last paragraph … the frauds, opportunists, and charlatans.

        Anecdotal story but my office represented a very nice couple from LA moving to AZ last year. A very nice couple who happened to have dark pigmentation in their skin. My agent relayed a conversation he had with the gentleman who told my agent that he was a retired postal worker and life long Democrat … however he said that he doesn’t even recognize that party anymore, had to “get the hell out of LA” and will be voting for Trump in 2020. That’s just one “legacy Democrat” who is no longer a Democrat thanks to people like Schiff, Waters, Jackson Lee, etc. etc.

  3. Cluster October 6, 2019 / 9:13 am

    Projection has become an art form in Democrat circles. Either that or their self awareness is that of a 3rd grader with ADD. As I watch PMSNBC this morning, Sen. Bob Casey (D) is saying that Trump likes to “smear his opponents, demonize and divide”. Is that suppose to be in contrast to how Democrats treat their opponents?? Are we to believe Brett Kavanaugh was treated with respect? Or how about Trump supporters? Do you feel like you have been treated with respect from the media and Democrats?

    What enrages Democrats and the media is that Trump has never cowered and his supporters have never backed down in the face of shaming and demonizing by Democrats. And we never will. And that fact is the reason why many “Never Trumpers” have come on board. They never had the personal will to fight themselves, but they respect it when they see it.

    • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 9:26 am

      The key difference is that Trump does what Trump does in DEFENSE as the rabid Left hurls every possible insult, attack and threat at him, nonstop, day in and day out.

      If the Left would shut up, if its legislators would just legislate, if the complicit agenda media would stop acting as advocates for people who have openly declared war on President Trump, he wouldn’t be reacting the way he is. He is REacting. Big difference.

  4. Cluster October 6, 2019 / 9:29 am

    The corruption within the the Obama administration continues:

    As reported in the Daily Caller, millions of dollars have been funneled through the Peace Corps to a nonprofit foundation created and directed by Secretary of State John Kerry’s daughter. In a scheme that demands an honest and detailed explanation, the Department of State funded a Peace Corps program and then the Peace Corps awarded the money without competitive bids to a nonprofit established by Dr. Vanessa Kerry, who created the program.

    The same Democrats and “Journalists” who lecture Americans on government ethics every day have no interest in looking into this, or Hunter Biden’s and Chris Heinz’s lucrative positions with a Ukraine pipeline company. Nor do they even have the slightest curiosity of why the Clinton Global Initiative suddenly dried up. Seems strange doesn’t it?

    https://dailycaller.com/2016/09/12/exclusive-john-kerrys-state-department-funneled-millions-to-his-daughters-nonprofit/

    • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 9:55 am

      Well, according to Dem “logic” if an investigation were to be started to look into this all Kerry would have to do would be to announce he is now a candidate for the Dem nomination. That is supposed to convey immunity.

      Though, now that I think of it, that might not be necessary, as the sly wordsmiths of the Left have just whined about a “political OPPONENT” or a “political RIVAL” which seems to mean any Democrat.

  5. Cluster October 6, 2019 / 9:47 am

    Have you ever heard of Boyan Slat? No? But you have heard of Greta Thunberg right? She’s an angry young teenager lecturing the world on her stolen future but offering no solutions and not lifting a finger herself. Boyan on the other hand is a young capitalist actually doing something positive for the climate but that doesn’t fit well with the media narrative so no wonder why no one has never heard of him.

    Dutch innovator Boyan Slat’s audacious plan to clear plastic from the marine area known as the “great Pacific garbage patch” is undergoing some major design changes. But the 22-year-old tells Business Insider that the first cleanup array is set to launch sooner than expected.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/boyan-slat-ocean-cleanup-launch-2018-2017-5

  6. Retired Spook October 6, 2019 / 9:49 am

    Some of you may have seen Dr. Robert Epstein on Life, Liberty and Levin on September 6th. Here he is testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee about the terrifying effects of Google’s, and to a lesser extent, Facebook’s inherent bias on elections. Not acted on, this could effectively end our election process as we know it.

    • Cluster October 6, 2019 / 11:08 am

      Definitely a sobering testimony. I personally think cell phones and social media have changed our culture for the worst.

      Did everyone see Chuck Todd get angry with Sen. Johnson for bringing up information that conflicts with the MSNBC narrative? It was a revealing moment. The Democrats and the media (apologies for the redundancy) are growing more and more hostile towards Americans who won’t buy into their manufactured “crisis”

    • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 11:24 am

      I will watch it when I get new speakers for this computer—took mine to Wyoming. Living in two states creates complications.

      I refuse to engage in “social media” and get thoroughly ticked off when others post information about me, or photos of me or my property or my animals. Most of the people I know are literally addicted to Facebook, unable to go more than an hour or so without checking to see what Susie had for lunch or if Wendy’s husband is still mad at her. It creeps me out. It is insidious and I don’t see how it is so important to people to get mass mailings, so to speak, instantaneously, of every detail of everyone’s lives. I hear all these excuses—-“I only use it to keep up to date with my family” for example. So why doesn’t your family let you know personally instead of just posting family info out there where non-family members will see it? “I only use it to exchange recipes”.
      ?? It’s a replacement for personal contact, as well as being addictive, as well as a means to control people. No thanks.

      • Cluster October 6, 2019 / 11:40 am

        … or if Wendy’s husband is still mad at her. It creeps me out.

        hahahaha it creeps me out too and you’re right it is a replacement for personal contact and community. It is toxic.

  7. JeremiahTMM October 6, 2019 / 4:44 pm

    President Trump is light years ahead of George W. Bush and Mitt Romney.

  8. R. Murphy October 6, 2019 / 5:14 pm

    Back to your persecution complex conspiracy theories that you really are brilliant but all your brilliant posts just get ‘deleted’ leaving behind only the dreck everyone here can see.

    • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 8:51 pm

      What—is poor rg whining again? It’s all about MEEEEE !! I thought I heard him, but then thought it might have been a saw blade hitting a nail.

      There is a reason people move away from him at bus stops and he’s never included in the office happy hour get-togethers—he just can’t stop obsessing over his many grievances. Within seconds he is mumbling about his lists: “Wait, don’t go away, I’ve got some really good lists about Donald Trump. Here’s one! No, that’s Dick Cheney—hardly ever use that one any more. Waitwaitwait, I’ve got an Orange Man Bad list in here somewhere. Let me look in my bicycle basket… Here’s a good list about porn star sex, with links. I really like that one. Don’t mind the stains. And one about —no, that’s Chappaquiddick, how did that get in here? (Hmmmm—I wonder if I changed the date and a few details…..) Don’t go away! I have a lot of links about how bad Trump supporters are. Just a sec…..”

      In the meantime I used some of my mad computer skills and found an actual picture of rg AKA Luke Crywalker: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/luke-crywalker

    • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 8:30 pm

      Why is it interesting? What is its significance?

      • JeremiahTMM October 6, 2019 / 8:39 pm

        Means the fur is about to hit the fan. A good probability.

        This new “whistleblower” to overthrow the Presidency is going to bring people out of the shadows. Not for a roundtable discussion or anything of the sort. But to hold the deep state actors accountable, because the Justice Department is failing big time to do their due diligence in executing justice.

        America is a powder keg right now. Just don’t know when or where it’s going to take off.

      • Retired Spook October 6, 2019 / 11:14 pm

        Maybe, but the good guys are keeping their powder dry, and the bad guys don’t have any powder.

      • Amazona October 6, 2019 / 11:57 pm

        What is the difference between MARADMIN 300/14 and MARADMIN 550/19 ?

      • JeremiahTMM October 7, 2019 / 1:56 pm

        MARADMIN – Marine Administrative Message.

        MARADMIN 300/14 was cancelled. The new MARADMIN issued is MARADMIN 550/19.

      • JeremiahTMM October 7, 2019 / 2:00 pm

        I think it’s 40,000 troops put on “Hot standby”.

  9. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 8:42 am

    I have realized that MSNBC, CNN, and all the other media activists including those at Fox have become expert behavioral analysts …. primarily because that’s all they have. In the absence of any real evidence, they spend hours every day examining the body language and actual language to determine guilt. The latest was Sen. Ron Johnson’s appearance on Meet the dePressed with Chucky Todd. Johnson had the audacity to challenge the media narrative and actually asked about a leak that Peter Strozk put out much earlier during the Russian hoax to which Todd became furious screaming “what does that have to do with anything” …. they really do get angry you when you don’t follow their lead.

    And the latest “breaking news” now is that Trump is pulling troops out of Syria to which Richard Engle on MSNBC just called a betrayal. Remember Obama was lauded as a hero for wanting to pull troops from Iraq which he did and which helped create ISIS, that and deposing Ghaddaffi for no apparent reason but this is just another day in the bizarro world of our media. What use to be acceptable, like hiring a foreign British spy to consult with Ukrainians and Russians to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign is now unacceptable when those two countries are asked to look into what happened in 2016. Ending our middle east military engagements under Obama use to be applauded but now is seen as a “betrayal”. When Obama built the border cages and encouraged illegal child immigration that was acceptable but now enforcing the immigration laws and using those cages is a “threat to our democracy”

    So down is up, up is down and behavior is the true indicator of a crime. That’s the current state of our media.

    • Retired Spook October 7, 2019 / 9:22 am

      And, as I alluded to in my previous comment, if the behavior and rhetoric don’t dovetail with the media’s narrative, they just adjust it until it does or just make it up as they go along. I don’t know how much longer this country can continue down this path until something or someone snaps.

  10. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 9:03 am

    RG, did you read the article? I don’t think you did because it reads like the Steele Dossier, a lot of anonymous sources and behavioral analysis they cite to create suspicion and guilt. From the article:

    The Naftogaz supervisory board is supposed to be selected by the Ukrainian president’s Cabinet in consultation with international institutions, including the International Monetary Fund, the United States and the European Union. It must be approved by the Ukrainian Cabinet. Ukrainian officials perceived Perry’s push to swap out the board as circumventing that established process, according to the person in the room.

    U.S. Energy Department spokeswoman Shaylyn Hynes said Perry had consistently called for the modernization of Ukraine’s business and energy sector in an effort to create an environment that will incentivize Western companies to do business there.

    So even though the United States is mandated to consult on the formation of the board, people like you are inferring that Perry’s involvement in that matter is “unethical” …. NOT illegal but unethical, and that’s the meat of the entire article.

    But I am sure you will agree that all of this needs to be investigated right? And I am sure that you will want the Ukranian’s to help with that investigation right? BUT that would be in conflict with what you demanded just last week and that was to NEVER ask a foreign government with help in investigating your American political foes …. right?

    Do you still believe that?

  11. Retired Spook October 7, 2019 / 9:13 am

    RG, the problem with this is that the media has been caught so many times manipulating facts, fabricating “evidence” out of whole cloth, editing transcripts and 911 calls, etc., that we — OK, I, just don’t believe much of anything I read or hear or see any more. Deep fakes are going to take fake news to a whole new level, if not in this election cycle, then certainly the next one.

    A man that I used to have a great deal of respect for, Judge Andrew Napolitano, the lead judicial analyst for Fox News penned an oped that was published in our local newspaper last Saturday. In it he stated that the transcript of Trump’s phone call showed that Trump asked the Ukranian president for dirt on Biden and that he admitted to withholding $391 million in military aid in the phone call. Neither of these accusations is true. If a highly respected former judge can openly lie because he obviously doesn’t like Trump, then who can you trust?

    I would normally say the solution is to get as many people as possible under oath to testify to the facts, but I have nearly zero confidence that those who are lying won’t continue to do so under oath. Oaths mean next to nothing to a great many people (on both sides) inside the Beltway. The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, in the hearing with the acting Director of National Intelligence last week acted as though he was reading from, or at the very least summarizing the Trump/Zelensky phone call transcript, but he literally made up his entire opening statement into what he obviously wanted Trump to have said versus what Trump actually said.

    Bottom line — excuse us if we don’t give much credence to anything you post here.

    • Cluster October 7, 2019 / 9:24 am

      It’s impossible to give credence to anything the media puts out unfortunately. Even in the article RG posted in about the third or fourth paragraph they perpetuates the lie that “Trump asked Ukraine to dig dirt up on Biden” … they just continue to lie

      • Retired Spook October 7, 2019 / 10:39 am

        “the “dig-up-dirt-on-Biden” accusation seems to be the lie du jour, repeated over and over. I honestly think if Biden were not on video bragging about extorting the Ukranians for a billion dollar loan guarantee in exchange for firing the Prosecutor General who was looking into Burisma, the Bidens probably wouldn’t even be part of the equation. When asked about this by Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures a week ago yesterday, Rudy Giuliani said his efforts in Ukraine were centered around getting to the bottom of Democrats’ efforts to influence the 2016 election, and that Biden and his son were not only secondary to that effort but actually got in the way of that investigation. I believe Giuliani is one of the more honorable individuals in this whole sordid mess, but if what he claimed is not true, it should be fairly easy to debunk. Of course that would depend on someone credible telling the truth, and the truth seems to be becoming more and more elusive.

  12. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 10:49 am

    Look at this headline from this morning:

    Federal judge orders Donald Trump to hand over eight years of his personal and company tax returns to Manhattan’s DA and rules sitting presidents are NOT exempt from criminal probes

    PROBES?? Into what? What is the criminal accusation? And by whom? This is getting way out of hand. Federal judges and Democrats are NOT entitled to endless “probes” to LOOK for a crime. That’s not the way our justice system works. Can you imagine if these fascists get power? I can’t and will give my life to make sure they don’t.

    • Amazona October 7, 2019 / 3:49 pm

      That’s not the way our justice system works IS SUPPOSED TO WORK,

      But, under Dem control, it IS the way the system works. In true Stalinist style, first a target is identified and then a “probe” or “investigation” is mounted to try to find a crime. That’s what they tried with Trump, that’s what they did with Manafort, that’s what they did with Flynn, that’s what they did with Libby.

      Beria: “Show me the man and I will find you a crime”. As the head of Stalin’s secret police, he stated what would become the standard for the Left when it started to gain enough power within the Democrat Party.

      I hope this goes to the Supreme Court. As for tax returns, Trump has been investigated by the IRS, audited by the IRS and always won.

      And isn’t whoever demanded this demanding the ability to “dig up dirt” on a presidential candidate? Gee, it seems that not too long ago I heard a lot of screeching and howling that this, if it happened, would be bad—-as in something that could destroy our nation !

  13. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 10:58 am

    The most famous Native American POTUS candidate is fabricating her life again: Yesterday re: her job as an elementary teacher::

    “I loved it, and I would probably still be doing it today but back in the day, before unions, the principal, by the time we got to the end of the first year, I was visibly pregnant,” Warren said to a room full of teachers and students at a campaign stop in Philadelphia. She added: “And the principal did what principals did in those days: they wished you luck, showed you the door, and hired someone else for the job. And there went my dream.”

    Just like Greta, her future was stolen from her from a mean white man. But in 2007, she recounted this:

    [M]y first year post-graduation I worked in a public school system with the children with disabilities. I did that for a year, and then that summer I didn’t have the education courses, so I was on an “emergency certificate,” it was called. I went back to graduate school and took a couple of courses in education and said, “I don’t think this is going to work out for me.” I was pregnant with my first baby, so I had a baby and stayed home for a couple of years, and I was really casting about, thinking, “What am I going to do?”

    The “mean white man” version is much better though, don’t you think?

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2019/10/07/networks-ignore-warren-lying-about-being-fired-because-she-was

    • Retired Spook October 7, 2019 / 11:10 am

      I really hope Warren is the Dem nominee. The ads will almost write themselves.

    • Amazona October 7, 2019 / 3:51 pm

      I’m waiting for a Warren story about landing in a war zone under heavy fire and bravely running across the airfield from the plane to safety.

  14. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 12:12 pm

    In our weekly media activists projection issue detailing the lack of self awareness, I present Morning Joe:

    On today’s Morning Joe, Professor Eddie Glaude was beside himself. He told Joe “I don’t know what to do,” faced with people who listen to Fox News and buy into the “lies” of Republican politicians. Scarborough consoled/explained to Glaude that everyone should vote Democrat to protest all the hate, bigotry, and lies

    They get angry when people disagree with them … hahahaha

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mark-finkelstein/2019/10/07/joe-scarborough-register-friends-drive-them-polls-ensure-big

  15. Cluster October 7, 2019 / 1:48 pm

    I am really struggling to see why protecting the Kurds in Syria is in our best “national security” interests.

    Donald Trump’s decision to abandon the Syrian Kurds to the Turks has not exactly gotten rave reviews so far this morning, but this might be the most surprising and biting criticism yet. “What a disaster,” said an angry Brian Kilmeade on the president’s favorite morning show. “We’re abandoning our most loyal allies,” Kilmeade retorts when Steve Doocy tries defending the plan as meeting a campaign promise. “What kind of message is that,” Kilmeade wonders, “to the next ally that wants to side with us?”

    Why does protecting Syria’s borders take precedent over protecting our own? We have spent trillions of dollars in the middle east and it’s just as f**ked up today as it was 20 years ago. I say let’s stop giving them any money and only send them weapons and ammunition and if they just want to kill everyone off on the middle east, then maybe that’s the way to go because as it is, those “men” over there really don’t have much to be proud of.

    • Retired Spook October 7, 2019 / 6:38 pm

      It’ll be interesting to see if Trumps gains any votes from the anti-war crowd, especially the younger ones. One of the many reasons I voted for him was his promise to get us out of foreign entanglements.

    • JeremiahTMM October 7, 2019 / 7:23 pm

      No, they sure don’t. They cut people’s heads off with butcher knives and machetes. And then hold up the head like it is a prize or something.

      The good thing about all of this is that President vows that if we have to go back, he will blast the ISIS back to prehistoric times.

  16. JeremiahTMM October 7, 2019 / 7:18 pm

    “You can’t impeach on a lie- No matter how hard the Left does try- I’ll tell you why- Our intelligence you deny- You believe we’ll buy- Falsehoods from the swamp guy- That released transcripts defy- Un-Truth from elected who in 2020 will say good by.”

  17. R. Murphy October 8, 2019 / 8:31 am

    To be correct ‘again’ there has to be a first time.

    • R. Murphy October 8, 2019 / 6:19 pm

      It does. It disposed of a claim you made, which has no support in reality.

  18. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 9:41 am

    So Adam Schiff is front of the microphones right now whining about national security or something like that …. it’s astonishing the the media still takes him seriously considering his lies about Russia and his collusion with the first whistle blower.

    All they have to do is vote for articles of impeachment which if passed gives them all the legal authority they need to investigate BUT it also gives the minority the right to cross examine and issue subpoenas themselves and that’s what the Dems don’t want.

    • Retired Spook October 8, 2019 / 9:46 am

      BUT it also gives the minority the right to cross examine and issue subpoenas themselves and that’s what the Dems don’t want.

      BINGO! But it doesn’t stop there. Have you seen or heard anything of Gerald Nadler lately? The impeachment inquiry is largely taking place in the House Intelligence Committe, not the Judiciary Committee. Significant? You bet — the Intelligence Committee can conduct business behind closed doors. So, they shut out the minority party AND conduct everything in secret. What could possibly go wrong?

      • Amazona October 8, 2019 / 10:43 am

        So we have two rule changes that allow this lynch mob to move on and look for a good tree—the change in whistleblower rules allowing gossip and hearsay to be processed as valid reports and then forwarded to Congress, and the House rules change allowing a mere statement of intent to investigate impeachment, somehow, some way, at some time, support formal investigation and depositions, subpoenas, etc. without ever filing actual articles of impeachment or taking a vote.

        Now we have the Star Chamber moved from the Judiciary Committee to the Intelligence Committee.

    • Amazona October 8, 2019 / 10:39 am

      .. it’s astonishing the the media still takes him seriously.. This would make sense if there was the slightest indication that the media who do take him seriously have any interest whatsoever in truth.

      When you have media which lie, constantly lie, repeatedly lie, of course they are going to feature other liars.

      Napolitano is not “the media” but does appear regularly in one of the media, the medium of television. This man is a judge, presumably trained to separate fact from fiction, yet he states that the words of Trump in that phone call said something the words simply, plainly, do not say. He doesn’t say his impression what that the words meant something not specifically stated—no, he said that the words said what they don’t say.

      With this kind of out-and-out lying not called out by anyone in the media, it is clear that most of the media are equally dishonest. And dishonest media will seek out those who support their lies, while the liars will seek out the media willing to publish them.

      • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 11:55 am

        It really makes you wonder doesn’t it when so many people with professional credentials are willingly lying about the issue? Something is up. This doesn’t pass the smell test. Did you see how unhinged Chuck Todd became the other day when the narrative was challenged by Sen. Ron Johnson? Who is arguably one of the most calm and deliberate GOP Senators. It was weird.

        Now we have the Star Chamber moved from the Judiciary Committee to the Intelligence Committee.

        That’s exactly right. This whole effort by the Democrats and Deep State is becoming more fascist by the day.

      • Retired Spook October 8, 2019 / 12:38 pm

        Maybe there’s panic in the inner sanctums of the White House, but publicly Trump doesn’t seem too concerned about the Democrats efforts to take him out. Have the Democrats issued actual subpoenas to the executive branch or just letters requesting testimony and documents? The media are calling them subpoenas, but are they actually subpoenas? It think it’s hysterical that Trump is calling their bluff and telling them to go pound sand.

        Looks like the Justice Department IG’s report on FISA abuse/fraud is finally about to be released.

  19. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 12:14 pm

    This is what I mean by “something is up”. Read the following from MSNBC

    As NewsBusters has previously reported, Meet the Press host Chuck Todd had a combative exchange with Republican Senator Ron Johnson Sunday; where the supposedly “objective” NBC News political director put his liberal bias on full display. Shortly after wrapping up the interview with Johnson, Todd rapidly transformed into a lapdog when interviewing former CIA Director John Brennan. Todd encouraged Brennan into advancing the narrative that America has lost its “stability” as a democracy and worried about the 40 percent of Americans who are ignoring “reality.” ……. Most likely taking a veiled swipe at Fox News, Todd complained that “We have two sets of realities that live here. There is…40 percent of the country that is only getting fed one reality; arguably, 60 percent are getting what I would argue is reality.” The NBC journalist asked Brennan “if your voters are only hearing this one thing, are we capable of governing ourselves with a disinformation campaign that’s happening like this?”

    “We have two sets of realities that live here” …. really? There is only one reality Chuck and it’s not the “reality” you are peddling. The following question by Todd is extremely revealing:

    Todd also set up Brennan to compare America to an autocratic government, asking, “How would the CIA assess the stability of the American government right now, if it were assessing America as if it was another country?”

    But Brennan’s response IS IN FACT THE PROBLEM WE CONFRONT:

    Brennan responded by saying, “We would look it as a very corrupt government that is under the sway right now of this powerful individual who has been able to just corrupt the institutions and the laws of that country.”

    This is really a despicable Q&A session. Propaganda at it’s finest perpetrated by a corrupt and partisan Deep State member is almost exclusively responsible for the lies, misinformation, and discord this country has suffered from over the last 3 years. Something is going on

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ryan-foley/2019/10/08/todd-baits-brennan-claiming-us-no-longer-democracy

    • Retired Spook October 8, 2019 / 12:57 pm

      At this point, Brennan gave the answer Todd was likely looking for by arguing that the United States has transformed into an authoritarian dystopia: “I think it’s no longer, you know, a democracy

      As much as the Left would like the U.S. to be a democracy, we aren’t, never have been, and never will be as long as the Second Amendment exists.

    • JeremiahTMM October 8, 2019 / 3:31 pm

      Illegal Coup. President is going to have to call on military to keep him from being illegally apprehended/arrested.

  20. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 12:35 pm

    And here is the headline on Drudge:

    WITNESS BLOCKED FROM IMPEACHMENT PROBE
    ‘OBSTRUCTION’
    POLLS: SUPPORT GROWS

    The Democrats have been in “impeachment probe” mode for three years. Thousands of subpeona’s, interviews, witness statements, etc. and they have nothing. Every single person they wanted to interview re: the Russia probe, they already have. Yet the “probe” continues and the media, including conservative media doesn’t seem to have a problem with it. Additionally, Trump made it clear that no cooperation will continue until articles of impeachment are voted on and approved.

    This can not continue. Endless investigations are not what this country is about and the American people had better make that stance now. Otherwise the fascist bureaucrats will eventually take over.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 12:59 pm

      Impeachment is entirely political and they can impeach him on anything so the question is … why won’t Pelosi put it up for a vote and allow the minority to have the right to question and subpoena?

      And after 3 years of allowing everyone to testify and cooperating fully with Mueller, you now think he has something to hide? What could that be? And do you think Adam Schiff should be deposed for lying about the whistle blower?

      Do you believe in endless probes fielding? Is that what you want this country to be? Be honest.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 1:47 pm

      So you think Trump is corrupt? Based on what? What evidence do you have?

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 1:56 pm

      So that’s it? That’s all you got? After 3 years of investigations, there should be some irrefutable crime committed to levy the charges you just did and continue the impeachment “probe” but you or the Democrats still can’t articulate even one.

      You and people like you are the true threat to our Republic and we will not tolerate it. And I will bet you that pelosi will never bring this to a vote because it is all a charade. But it fools small minds like you

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 2:07 pm

      Projection again? I am convinced there is nothing wrong that’s why I just don’t know why your side won’t hold a formal impeachment vote. That should concern you too because the absence of a vote indicates an absence of evidence.

      I want a formal impeachment vote. Bring it or STFU

  21. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 1:05 pm

    Spook – It think it’s hysterical that Trump is calling their bluff and telling them to go pound sand.

    That’s exactly right. Something is going on and I think Democrats are panicking because they realize they have nothing but are using their media counterparts to make it sound bad and people like fielding lap it up. I also think Trump has some very incriminating information that will really be bad for people like Brennan, Comey, Biden and Clinton and that is soon to drop which is why the media is in full discrediting mode by repeating the “conspiracy” word as often as possible.

  22. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 1:10 pm

    Here’s a little truth serum for people like Fielding:

    There are 540 words between “favor” and “Biden” in the transcript and, most importantly, the actual favor the president was asking for – Ukraine’s assistance in investigating Ukrainian attempts to help Hillary Clinton in 2016. If there was a hunger among Democrats to protect our elections, wouldn’t getting to the bottom of what actually happened the last time be a good place to start?

    Isn’t it strange that Democrats are no longer interested in finding out what happened with foreign interference in 2016 and are now solely focused on 2020?

    Does that fact not give you reason to pause Fielding?

    https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2019/10/08/theres-a-reason-democrats-are-screaming-about-conspiracies-n2554280

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