Open Thread

In the Romney vs Trump battle, I can only say that it is the last straw for me: I am done, forever, with people like Romney. I can understand why someone might not like Trump but if you’re a Republican, your job is to advance the fortunes of the Republican Party – to propose Republican things. To make Republicans look as good as you can. To battle back against the Democrats. There was so much Romney could have done…and among all the things he could choose from, he decides to go after Trump…which no Republican was asking for him to do (Trump’s approval rating among GOPers is in the 95% range). So, what is Romney up to? In my view, its one of two things or it could be both: his own family is deep into garbage like the Bidens are and Trump refused Romney as SecState. I regret deeply voting for Romney in 2012 and I’m glad he lost.

If you listen to the Left and Never Trump (BIRM), Trump is already finished…its only a matter of a short time before he’s forced out (Romney’s thing was scripted into this, I’m sure). They believe this because, seriously, they only talk to themselves. Lots of things may happen to Trump – but being forced out over a clear hit job by the Democrats isn’t one of them.

Related: McConnell is doing anti-impeachment ads. This tells you what the fate of impeachment will be in Cocaine Mitch’s Senate should Nancy be forced to call a vote (she does not want to).

AOC says Trump’s attacks on Schiff are anti-Semitic. The most common response to this accusation from Trump supporters (myself included): he’s Jewish? Didn’t know that.

Related: anti-Semitic hate crimes are rising fast in Progressive NYC. Why? Because Progressives welcome anti-Semites. It is really that simple.

98 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 1:52 pm

    …. the social media disinformation campaign led by the Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency.

    I think we should investigate everything surrounding the 2016 election … do you? You seem to be fine with the fact that the Clinton campaign hired a foreign spy who used Ukraine and Russia operatives to dig up dirt on Trump and ended up putting Manafort in jail. Are you ok with that foreign interference?

  2. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 2:19 pm

    The inner fascist tendencies are in full bloom with RG and Fielding.

    RG is trying to convince us that foreign interference is a threat to our “democracy” yet didn’t seem to have the same feelings when Hillary employed foreign spy Christopher Steele who used Ukraine and Russian operatives to dig up dirt on Manafort and Trump.

    Additionally, Fielding is convinced Trump is corrupt yet can not articulate even one small misdemeanor that can be contributed to Trump and at the same time willingly ignores the litany of crimes on behalf of Hillary which was outlined in detail by James Comey who then said “not one reasonable prosecutor would take up the case”

    It’s a fascist twilight zone

  3. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 2:26 pm

    And isn’t it odd now that Democrats want to stay in the middle east wars? What happened to “no blood for oil”

    Maybe RG can enlighten us.

    • Retired Spook October 8, 2019 / 2:38 pm

      It’s not just Democrats. Plenty of establishment Republicans seem to favor endless wars as well.

      Maybe RG can enlighten us.

      Maybe pigs can learn to fly too.

      • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 4:07 pm

        LOL. I am just not buying the crap anymore that we need to fight other countries wars to keep ours safe. Every war hawk establishment member in DC now is aligned against Turkey which is odd. Isn’t Turkey a NATO member? And remember when Trump spoke out against NATO that somehow that was tantamount to a “crisis”?

        Nothing passes the smell test anymore

  4. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 4:24 pm

    We have definitely entered Never Never Land with these fascists. The following is a question posed by MSNBC to “Republicans” Charley Sykes and Bill Kristol:

    “Does Senator Johnson deserve to represent the people of Wisconsin?”

    What an unbelievable question and here is the response:

    Sykes accused Johnson of “channeling the former Senator from the state of Wisconsin, Joe McCarthy, in spinning out these various conspiracy theories” during his appearance on Meet the Press. Echoing Hillary Clinton’s talking points, Sykes expressed hope that more Republicans will act like the late Republican Senator Margaret Chase Smith, who “took to the floor of the United States Senate” and “denounced the fear, ignorance, bigotry and smears of the McCarthy era.” According to Sykes, “You do wonder when other Senators are going to step up and, you know, form a critical mass to be able to say that kind of thing” about President Trump.”

    What’s lost in all of this is that McCarthy was proven right. There were Russian spies in our government.

    Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow and now the famous Venona Intercepts — FBI recordings of Soviet embassy communications between 1944-48 — the record is showing that McCarthy was essentially right. He had many weaknesses, but almost every case he charged has now been proven correct. Whether it was stealing atomic secrets or influencing U.S. foreign policy, communist victories in the 1940s were fed by an incredibly vast spy and influence network.

    And Trump will be proven right too.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 7:53 pm

      Endless investigations into people are the very definition of fascism and world net daily is not fringe and the report is accurate. You can use your Google machine but here’s a link that will be hard for even you to refute:

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:03 pm

      Do better? By whose standards? You can not refute the accuracy of the report so you demand your opponent ”does better”. Do you see the irony there as it relates to fascism? Cause it’s really good.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:13 pm

      The stark contrast between someone like you and those of us here RG is that we live in reality as it exists while you manufacture a reality and expect everyone else to live in it. Every issue you stand for is contrived and does nothing to advance everyone’s freedom and opportunity. In fact that agenda will constrict freedom and limit opportunity as has been historically proven time and time again but for whatever reason, your side chooses to ignore that reality. The positions your side has staked out on climate change, universal health care, immigration are all based on lies with zero attachment to reality. Additionally the personal attacks levied against Brett Kavanaugh were despicable and unAmerican and no one involved in that should be lecturing anyone about anything.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:15 pm

      You’re really proving my point so thanks and I am guessing you didn’t grasp the irony.

  5. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 4:29 pm


    There is a deep state. There is a bureaucracy in our country who has pledged to respect the constitution, respect the rule of law. They do not work for the President, they work for the American people,” Stewart said. “And as Comey told me in my book, thank goodness for that because they are protecting the constitution and the people when individuals…they restrain them from crossing the boundaries of all.”

    They are now openly admitting to spying on and circumventing the governance of this President. These actions are acts of war in my opinion. The intel agencies work for the President, no one else and if they see their charter differently, then that is an actual threat to our Republic.

    • Amazona October 9, 2019 / 8:44 am

      We have to remember that the Left is driven by the Marxist concept that “…the good is whatever helps achieve the socialist utopia. The bad is whatever hinders it”.

      So overt subversion of the government is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Attempting to overturn an election and topple a sitting president is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Weaponizing federal agencies and even Congress to smear a president in hopes of influencing the next election is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Abusing the power of federal agencies to spy on citizens is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Adopting the maxim of Stalin, to first target someone and then try to find something to use against him, is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Corrupting the press so thoroughly it becomes an arm of the Left, to openly promote propaganda for the Left and against its opponents, is “good” because it helps advance Leftism. Working ceaselessly to destabilize our society in every way possible is “good” because it helps advance Leftism.

      And Trump and his supporters are all “bad” because “the bad is whatever hinders it” and Trump and those of us who support what he is doing are voices in opposition to the efforts of the Left.

  6. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 4:51 pm

    Question … could the following from 2016 be construed as inviting foreign interference in our elections?

    Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign is holding fundraisers in Mexico on Wednesday, expanding its offshore money operation one day after the New Hampshire primary.

    Two events hosted by the Clinton campaign treasurer Jose Villarreal will be held in Mexico City. Clinton herself will not be attending.

    It’s mentioned that “all attendees need to be US citizens” and I am sure that the Clinton’s did not accept one dime if not coming from a legal voter. hahaha. And then it was off to London proving that Hillary spent more time in London than she did in Wisconsin.

    Later this month, Clinton’s daughter Chelsea and fashion editor Anna Wintour will headline a London fundraiser for the campaign, according to CNN.

    Muy interesante

  7. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:20 pm

    It’s right after the part that says that House Committee Chairs shall not collude with intelligence agency members to manufacture dirt on their political opponents.

    • Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:28 pm

      And typical Democrat … no sense of humor. For the love of God liberals are boring. RG this isn’t about Democrats and Republicans anymore. Trump has blown that up. Those two parties are largely two sides of the same coin and our 4th branch, the bureaucracies, are a problem. These entrenched bureaucrats at the top have been there too long and are entirely self serving and partisan. This is a battle between the American people and Washington DC and you’ll see that play out over the next year ending in a landslide for the American people.

  8. Cluster October 8, 2019 / 8:34 pm

    And one big question I have for you RG is why do you believe people who have blatantly lied? You seem to have bought into the media/democrat narrative yet these are the same people who have openly lied for 3 years but this time they’re telling the truth? I don’t get it. Do you really think Trump colluded with Russia even though an exhaustive 2 year investigation by the most vaunted FBI agent ever could not a find a single instance of collusion? Why are you still going down this path?

  9. Retired Spook October 8, 2019 / 11:39 pm

    I think it’s probably in the same section where it says that the majority party may unilaterally hold hearings and take testimony of witnesses in secret, denying the minority party as well as the accused any legal rights whatsoever.

  10. Amazona October 9, 2019 / 8:29 am

    Waiting for the sun to come up so I can unload a trailer, load up a UTV to take back to the shop in Colorado, drain out a couple more water lines and hit the road again. It’s been one of those Perfect Storm weeks so far, with hundreds of miles a day on the road, but with a big storm due tomorrow I should have a few normal-ish days ahead.

    But all that driving has given me uninterrupted time to think, to let ideas percolate, and one of the things I started to wonder about is clickbait, troll-style. That is, I started to wonder if trolls get some sort of credit for how many responses they get.

    The last time I looked at the blog, and again this morning, I noticed lots of fragments, comments that appeared to be directed at posts that were no longer there. From the fragments I could deduce that they were irritated responses to stupid posts, probably by rg as a couple referenced his name. And I started thinking about how his posts posture as efforts to enter into discourse but are really just screeds of grievances, most of them already wholly proven to be false, and it occurred to me that they might be intended just to GET responses. Not discourse, because as soon as some responses would come in that even more thoroughly debunked one set of talking points he would flip to a new page in the script and list a few more, and many are just one-line challenges, stupid questions evidently designed to goad someone into pointing out how stupid they are.

    So I started to think about the word “troll”. I think a lot of us, at least in my case, have thought of the word as applying to those who lurk and then jump out just to cause trouble, whether individual disturbed people or those paid to disrupt discourse and plant lies and just generally keep things stirred up. That is the noun. But there is the verb: “to troll”. And I have come to the conclusion that rg (noun-troll) is also trolling (verb-troll) just to get clicks, or responses. And is getting them.

    Why? Who knows. It could just be his sick pathology, but it could also be a way to test memes and score hits.

    We used to say “don’t feed the trolls” but that was back when the trolls were just people–stupid people, hostile people, whatever. But now that trolling is a strategy, I wonder if “feeding the trolls” is now just adding data to a developing algorithm, or a way to judge the success of different trolls and different topics and ways to goad people into responding.

    In which case, isn’t responding to an rg post just playing his game, getting sucked in when he drags some juicy bit of nonsense in front of you that goads you into a response? It looks like he has been tagged as a spammer, so if his posts will be removed anyway why do you give him the satisfaction, and any other benefit he might get, by being goaded into responding? It’s not as if any response is going to make any difference. because he clearly doesn’t care about facts. He’s just dragging bait across the blog to see who bites and on what.

    • Cluster October 9, 2019 / 8:39 am

      Safe travels today and you could very well be right re: clicks, responses, and algorithms. I had never thought of that but I believe that is their modus operandi in many other areas. I am convinced that MSNBC and CNN continue with their lies and sensationalism because it results in clicks and ratings.

      To possibly solidify that point the other day RG completely refuted the fact that Obama gave a billion dollars cash to Iran yet when confronted with Obama’s own admission of the fact, he quickly changed subject … no shame whatsoever. It struck me as odd.

    • Retired Spook October 9, 2019 / 9:25 am

      He’s just dragging bait across the blog to see who bites and on what.

      I could not agree more, and have said so on numerous occasions. The only useful purpose of trolls, IMO, is they often lead me to research things where I’m unsure of the facts. Like the blind squirrel who once in a while accidentally finds an acorn, every once in a while a troll will actually stumble across something I didn’t know. But generally they just repeat lies that they’ve heard or read, or, as RG has often done, post something based on a salacious headline without reading the article. They almost never post an original thought about anything — it’s almost always an attempt at a gotcha.

      • Amazona October 9, 2019 / 10:13 am

        So the question is, does rg benefit in any way but an ego boost when his posts get responses? As we can tell they are not serious, but simply efforts to goad us into replying, what do any of us get out of playing his game (except Cluster, who has already tried a move to the Dark Side and is still getting feedback from some of his associated bad decisions and who just loves to squabble and bicker with these losers) ?

      • Retired Spook October 9, 2019 / 10:26 am

        I’m not sure how constantly being ridiculed boosts his ego, unless he’s also a masochist, but I get your point — I’ve made it myself a number of times. I agree, Cluster is a lost cause — heh.

      • Cluster October 9, 2019 / 10:52 am

        hahaha oh I enjoy the battle. I am a happy warrior

      • Amazona October 9, 2019 / 11:22 am

        Please indulge in your passion for duking it out with radical Lefties—and by doing so treating them as actual opponents to be taken seriously instead of as either mere noise or tools of organized Leftist propaganda—some place other than here. This is YOUR passion, not shared by people who find it a combination of distasteful and a waste of time.

      • Retired Spook October 9, 2019 / 10:56 am

        Nothing wrong with slapping Lefties down and enjoying it. My guess is that if Trump stopped doing it, he’d lose a substantial portion of his base, and those who are turned off by his rhetoric and tweets still wouldn’t like him.

      • Amazona October 9, 2019 / 11:25 am

        There is a difference between “slapping a Lefty down” and being baited into a meaningless bicker-match just to give him clicks or whatever they get for doing this successfully. Every now and then I will respond to something egregious just because I think there are lurkers out there and I hate the idea of letting something stand as if it has even the slightest element of truth. But when it is obviously just baiting people, trying to goad them into a response so a new bait can be dragged in front of them, that is different.

  11. Cluster October 9, 2019 / 8:48 am

    This is sad …

    Bernie Sanders’ Daughter-In-Law Passed Away Just Two Days After Being Diagnosed With Cancer

    Just two days after diagnosis and only 46 years old. God bless her

    • Retired Spook October 9, 2019 / 10:21 am


    • Cluster October 9, 2019 / 11:15 am

      Classic. I saw a halloween meme today with three little kids one dressed up as Hillary and the parent at the door says “the little girl dressed as Hillary just won’t go away” hahahaha

      So in the media today the “experts” are all maligning Turkey, which I thought was a “NATO ally” and attacking Trump for not “protecting the Syrian border”. They are claiming that we MUST defend the Kurds …. because they “helped us defeat ISIS” or something like that. A couple thoughts. Why are the experts demanding we secure the Syrian border when they wont even support securing our own border? I thought defending borders was an antiquated idea perpetrated by white nationalists. Secondly, the Kurds can defend themselves and have proven that time and time again.

      Here again we find ourselves quagmired in a battle and putting our troops at risk to defend WHAT? The claim is that ISIS will reform … well you know what? They always do and we can’t have a permanent footprint in the middle east simply to stop a violent rogue group from reforming. That has to be the responsibility of those countries in the region – Germany, Israel, etc. who have a hell of lot more to lose than we do, and it’s not fair to the American tax payer to constantly be asked to fund the protection of other countries. Despite what the pentagon “experts” want, we can’t afford to be the worlds police.

      • Amazona October 9, 2019 / 11:27 am

        Too funny—to attack Trump they have to admit that ISIS is defeated, even if they have to give some credit to the Kurds.

        Poor Lefties, spinning around constantly in a hate-driven circle they will always find themselves coming back around to something they once decried and now having to use it themselves.

    • jdge1 October 11, 2019 / 4:23 am

      Kind of reminds me of ObamaCare. Have to pass it to find out what’s in it.

  12. Amazona October 9, 2019 / 11:28 am

    From an article in RedState:

    What’s better — to come up with a way for you to win, or to obsess over making your opponent lose? Dems have gone with the latter, and they’re only serving up another GOP victory and 4 more years of writhing in electoral agony.

    “writhing in electoral agony”
    I love it.

    • Cluster October 9, 2019 / 11:57 am

      Just saw a report that Trey Gowdy has joined the Trump team to defend him against impeachment. GREAT MOVE

      Electoral agony will continue … lol

  13. Retired Spook October 9, 2019 / 12:02 pm

    I watch Laura Ingraham’s show maybe once every week or two. My wife was watching it in bed last night while I was reading out in the family room. She got up and told me she was recording it and I should watch. Laura had Rudy Giuliani and Joe DeGenova on for a half hour. Neither pulled any punches. It was hilarious. DeGenova made the comment toward the end that the next two weeks are going to be non-stop revelations of Democrat corruption and malfeasance, and the political landscape is going to change dramatically. It’s one of the reasons the Donkeys are in such a rush to impeach (in a non-impeachment sort of way). Kind of reminds me of the scene in the movie A Clear and Present Danger, Where the bad guy (Ritter) is in one office furiously deleting incriminating files while Jack Ryan (Harrison Ford) is in another office trying to print as many of the same files as possible before they get deleted.

    • Cluster October 9, 2019 / 1:20 pm

      DeGenova made the comment toward the end that the next two weeks are going to be non-stop revelations of Democrat corruption and malfeasance, and the political landscape is going to change dramatically.

      I certainly hope so because they have been dragging this out quite a while now with a lot of promises and nothing to show yet so I hope they have something good, and I hope they reveal it soon

  14. Cluster October 9, 2019 / 6:28 pm

    Have you seen what’s going on in California? Mandatory blackouts to prevent wildfires. PG&E is turning off the power in several counties when conditions are dry and winds pick up. This is the state of Democrat/WOKE governance in the 21st century. There streets are filled with encampments, litter, needles, and feces and now their power is randomly shut off at the direction of state bureaucrats. Keep in mind, these are the same people who want to save the planet from climate change.

  15. Cluster October 9, 2019 / 7:56 pm

    We will add that to the pile of rats, leakers, and spies in the administration who hide behind hearsay and anonymity to try and harm the duly elected President. Next.

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