Open Thread

President Trump sent a letter to Nancy Pelosi about her Impeachment effort. Its a bit of a scorcher.

The climate change talks in Madrid are rated a failure and they’re blaming Trump for it. So, more winning!

The Far Side has returned.

FISA court condemns FBI abuses. My view: abolish FISA. A Republic cannot have secret police of any type. We really aren’t allowed to have secrets, folks: a Republic where the people are sovereign must do all its business in the Forum, not the Divan. This does have the weakness of our enemies always knowing what we’re doing, but it has the strength of our enemies always knowing what we’re doing.

Yesterday was the 75th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge – a battle which displayed astonishing American courage in battle, and the sort of command failure we’ve become used to…likely because the Bulge was the second time Ike was caught with his pants down (the first being at Kasserine) and his reward for failure was being made General of the Army and President of the United States. Another thing a Republic must be is merciless to it’s servants who fail. Allowing failure to go unpunished merely ensures you’ll get more failure. Every military commander, especially, must always have the sense of the guillotine behind him – because failure in that area means people, citizens of the Republic, are going to die needlessly.

The Left has their Sanctuary Cities for illegal immigrants – you know, where they ignore the plain law and allow people who aren’t supposed to be here to remain – but they don’t like the Sanctuary Cities for guns which are being created. Well, too bad: especially as the 2nd Amendment is American law while coddling illegals, isn’t.

52 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. apirocks December 17, 2019 / 8:27 pm

    Re the letter, you can clearly see which parts one of his aides wrote and which part(s) he wrote himself.

    Staffer:

    ““This impeachment represents an unprecedented and unconstitutional abuse of power by Democrat Lawmakers, unequalled in nearly two and a half centuries of American legislative history.”

    POTUS:

    ““You are offending Americans of faith by continually saying ‘I pray for the president,’ when you know this statement is not true, unless it is meant in a negative sense,” he wrote. “It is a terrible thing you are doing, but you will have to live with it, not I!”

    I can only imagine his staff shrugging and rolling their eyes whenever he sends back his edits.

    It’s interesting that he never actually explains just how is it “unconstitutional”? Nor, when you compare this to the impeachment of Clinton, just how is it “unequalled”?

    • Amazona December 17, 2019 / 11:26 pm

      Hmmm. This is like Whack-A-Troll. One gets bumped and a new name with the same old themes suddenly, coincidentally, pops up, trying the same tired old tactic of finding something “interesting”, calling up visions of Diane Sawyer’s Klingon-like forehead as she deeply, so very deeply, furrowed her brow in serious consternation.

      Naturally, the idea is to get someone to respond, hopefully leading to several back-and-forths as he ramps up his anti-Trump rhetoric and adds to the total of “clicks” on his trolling tally.

  2. Cluster December 18, 2019 / 9:09 am

    The Far Side is back? Say no more …. life is good.

    The Constitution calls for “High crimes and misdemeanors. bribery or treason” to impeach a President. The two articles introduced not only do not meet that standard, neither of them are even statutory crimes. These are simply politicians and diplomats with their feelings hurt and many would call that unConstitutional.

    Bill Clinton lied to a Grand Jury. That is a statutory crime, so in that sense it’s unequalled.

    It’s odd watching people commit political and career suicide in real time, but that’s exactly what the Democrats and their colleagues in the media are doing.This will be a purely partisan exercise today and support for impeachment is dropping after the public realized that this is just more faux hysteria from a party that has made faux hysteria an art form.

    • R. Murphy December 18, 2019 / 4:26 pm

      Far side never went away. It’s called the democrat house …

      • Amazona December 18, 2019 / 7:17 pm

        No, because The Far Side was witty and funny while the Dem House is just so sad and pathetic laughing at it is a guilty pleasure.

      • Ryan Murphy December 19, 2019 / 7:01 am

        Touché, touché …

  3. Cluster December 18, 2019 / 9:23 am

    In the grown up world, this requires much more attention, hence you will never see it covered on MSNBC:

    Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge, Rosemary M. Collyer blasted the FBI for misleading the court when seeking surveillance warrants for a former Trump campaign staffer.

    The faux outrage, lies, and disinformation spread for three years by the FBI and the media needlessly tore this country apart yet without pause, they now direct their petulant outrage towards a phone call that career diplomats were offended by and they expect the public to buy into it.

    Let’s clear up the Russia issue first and quite possibly indict and prosecute some people for attempting a coup against the President, then let’s see how closely connected the media was with the lies, leaks, and illegalities and hold some people accountable there too. Only then would it be time to look into a phone call.

    https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf

    • Retired Spook December 18, 2019 / 11:04 am

      On Laura Ingraham’s show last night Devin Nunes said that his committee sent the FISA Court a full accounting of the FBI’s efforts to mislead over a year ago, and that the Court’s assertion that they are just hearing about this for the first time is disingenuous. If the Deep State controls the FISA Court, then we need to get rid of it.

      • Amazona December 18, 2019 / 7:24 pm

        ” disingenuous” means “it makes me laugh out loud”

  4. Cluster December 18, 2019 / 9:40 am

    I am beginning to think that this over zealous rush to impeach the President is to keep everyone distracted from the internal illegal coup attempt orchestrated by Clinton and aided and abetted by the CIA, FBI, and the media.

    The Democrats actually did everything they accuse Trump of doing – hiring a foreign operative to get dirt on political opponents. On top of that you have deep corruption on behalf of Clinton, Kerry, and Biden lining their pockets with American foreign aid while Obama was promising more flexibility with Russia and sending $150 billion cash to Iran.

    We all need to make sure this doesn’t end well for them.

    • Amazona December 18, 2019 / 1:26 pm

      I’ve been saying all along that the impeachment charade has been a frantic effort to distract from the real danger to the Left and its new party, the American Democrat Party, which is represented by the offhand reference to Crowdstrike in the president’s phone call. My comment was that “Crowdstrike” was the spark that lit the fuse on impeachment over a different part of the phone call.

      That is because “Crowdstrike” ties the DNC, and the party all the way up to and including Obama, to the abuse of power by the Executive Branch and the overt efforts of the DNC to develop and use foreign assets to influence an American election.

      Crowdstrike is the company brought in by the DNC to supposedly examine its digital records to determine how it was “hacked”, and by whom, while they refused access to the FBI and its forensic teams. (This is because the files were NOT hacked, but copied internally, machine to machine, by someone with direct access within the DNC, and then turned over to an Assange associate in a person-to-person transfer in a D.C. park.) What Crowdstrike did was (1) issue a report that the server had been hacked and (2) plant clumsy and too-obvious “clues” that it had been hacked by Russia. This was the first stage in setting up a Trump/Russia collusion theme, the theme that has led us to the dumpster fire of where we are today.

      Without the alleged “proof” of Russia “hacking” the DNC server the elaborate web of alleged collusion between Trump and Russia would have had no introduction, no foundation and would simply not exist.

      The tentacles of the entity that is Crowdstrike might be intertwined with the proven efforts of the then-government of Ukraine, or at least some of its officials, to undermine the Trump campaign and promote a Clinton presidency. The entity that is/was Crowdstrike might have been involved in this, or simply working parallel to whoever did organize that effort, but in any case this is a time bomb for the Dems because they have claimed, loudly and constantly, that certain acts of collusion with foreign governments constitute crimes and a deep dive into Crowdstrike and other relationships within Ukraine and their ties to the Dem party will be catastrophic for the party.

      Linking the overseas efforts with the domestic efforts, as shown in the FBI frauds upon the court and the Page/Strzok emails among other evidence, will show a Deep State subversion of American civil rights and abuse of federal power going all the way up to Obama and all the way down through levels of agency officialdom including the State Department and several if not all federal law enforcement agencies, plus the Intelligence Community.

      Then on top of that we have the complicity of the offices of the Vice President of the United States and the State Department in the persons of Secretary of State John Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden engaging in Clintonesque pay-to-play schemes, resulting in billions and billions of dollars being funneled to (as far as we know now) companies owned by sons of Biden and Kerry but for all we know also to Joe Biden and even Barack Obama, and we have massive motivation to cover all this up at any cost.

      And I believe that the calculation was made that even if it meant losing the House in the 2020 election, to create a dog and pony show so outrageous and so melodramatic it might effectively distract from the real dangers to the party and the movement would be an acceptable price to pay. Throw in the possibility, no matter how slim, that this distraction might remove Trump from office or at least keep him from being reelected, thereby providing cover for the many layers of corruption and criminality now poised to be exposed and we can see why the whole impeachment charade has been so vitally important to the party.

    • Amazona December 19, 2019 / 2:05 am

      The Democrats actually did everything they accuse Trump of doing – hiring a foreign operative to get dirt on political opponents.

      Don’t forget the recording of Schiff trying to get nude photos of Trump from someone he thought was a highly placed Russian. That was an overt effort to dig up something negative on Trump from a foreign source, and we have it on tape.

  5. Amazona December 18, 2019 / 1:42 pm

    “…some of the Senate Democrats currently running for president or who had been running at one time already called for Trump’s ouster before the impeachment inquiries even started. Will they be recusing themselves from proceedings? Of course not.”

    https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2019/12/17/dems-erupt-say-mistrial-possible-mcconnell-declares-will-not-impartial-impeachment-trial-juror

    Once again, I suggest that the antics of the Left be used against them. That is, tally up every single Dem Representative who stated a belief that the president is guilty and should be impeached even before witnesses were called, often switching lanes as different alleged crimes were named, name them, and remove them from the total voting for impeachment. They openly stated they had made up their minds before all the evidence was in, so they must not be allowed to vote. I wonder how many would be left, and if that number is sufficient to impeach. It so, then do as the article suggests and remove all Senators who called for impeachment before the evidence was even presented.

    What an interesting Senate trial that would be, starting with the demands of the Left to remove from voting anyone who had stated an opinion on guilt or innocence before evidence was even presented and moving on to naming every Representative who did this and saying that this person’s vote has to be discounted, leaving a total too small to effectively impeach in the first place. A formal ruling that the impeachment itself is invalid because of the points brought up by Schumer and several others would be too wonderful for words.

    • jdge1 December 18, 2019 / 3:17 pm

      Nice piece. Hope Trump gets to nominate several mores justices.

      • Amazona December 18, 2019 / 3:29 pm

        One reason for Leftist panic is the knowledge that in the next four year presidential term it is likely that at least two more justices will be named, possibly more. Ginsberg is 87, Breyer is 82, and we all know that a younger age is no guarantee of years to come. Thomas and Alito are 72 and 70, respectively, and both are considered to be conservative, but being replaced by other conservatives who are 20 or 30 years younger would also help shape the Court for decades to come.

  6. Amazona December 18, 2019 / 3:14 pm

    Pouty federal bureaucrats are sulking in the Department of Agriculture, as well as the BLM. They are actually (gasp!!!) being asked to work where there is….agriculture. And they are not happy. They turned their backs on the head of the department, ( //sarc on )which I am sure traumatized him no end (//sarc off). Actually, I think his laughing out loud at their childish antics probably just upset them more. But, as one comment pointed out, Kansas City also has the internet with access to Porn Hub, so it’s not like their lives will change much. And as another comment stated, this is real life out in the real world, where people are relocated all the time. No more Safe Places for federal snowflakes. Awwwww……

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/06/13/agriculture-dept-workers-not-happy-about-being-relocated-to-somewhere-theres-agriculture/

    I hope Trump will get credit for his relocating of federal agencies outside the Beltway, thereby reducing operating costs, increasing relevance to their stated areas of authority and hopefully thinning out embedded Leftist agents.

  7. Cluster December 18, 2019 / 4:10 pm

    I think we are all learning how deeply entrenched the cancerous Left is in our Republic. This is what draining the swamp looks like and there is a lot more sludge to get through ….

  8. Cluster December 19, 2019 / 9:08 am

    Here is the absurd level of intelligence we have to put with with Democrats:

    Nancy Pelosi says she won’t send articles of impeachment to the Senate until Republicans promise a ‘fair’ trial as she slams Mitch McConnell for saying he is ‘not an impartial juror’

    I am guessing Nancy considers Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Corey Booker, and Amy Klobuchar as “impartial jurors” ??? I think this is our main frustration with these Democrat reprobates. They’re just not smart people but they pretend they are, and many people with below average intelligence themselves consider them to be smart so they live in an echo chamber and have for years now. I am hoping the upcoming landslide reelection of Trump will cause them to personally reflect on their short comings but I am not overly optimistic about it. Narcissism coupled with stupidity is a dangerous combination.

    • Amazona December 19, 2019 / 11:35 am

      Poor Dems. They are suddenly faced with the reality of what they are doing. Poor Nancy, frantically trying, at this late date, to undo the harm her runaway House has done by trying to stop a real trial in which real evidence will be presented by real witnesses about real crimes—knowing the real crimes were committed by the Left in its determination to thwart Trump, not by Trump himself.

      They opened what they thought would be a big can of whup-ass, and it is spraying back on them. They don’t know what to do with it. It is a classic “tiger by the tail” conundrum for them—-if they turn loose, the tiger will turn around and eat them, but if they hang on it will eat them anyway.

      Now it is up to the Republicans to come up with an intelligent way to deal with this. My suggestion is to let the impeachment just sit there, rotting on a shelf, while they move on. Is there any reason the Senate can’t just mount its own investigation into how the impeachment train even got started? As it represents the biggest hoax in the history of the nation, perpetrated by elected officials, I think it is mandatory for the Senate to look into it. It represents an attempted coup by not just a major political party but by members of Congress trying to use the powers of their positions to accomplish a political goal.

      Not into the Bidens, or the international corruption represented by the Obama administration. That is too much to tackle in a few short months, and I would like this to start in early January and wrap up in the summer, fall at the latest, timed for the most impact on the election. I would lay the foundation that is the Russia Hoax, in few brushstrokes, touching on its roots in Ukraine, Crowdstrike, Steele and his dossier and the Ukrainian court decision on that nation’s interference in our election. Just an outline and the explanation that there is no desire to step on the toes of the criminal investigations into that.

      And then I would move on to the Impeachment Hoax, explaining that it became necessary when the Russia Hoax fell apart. That would start with the statements going back to the eve of the election that the Dems intended to impeach Trump, before he had even taken office, and have some testimony from someone showing the many references to impeachment long before the Zelensky call. From that point I would call Vindman, Ciaramella, Ciaramella’s good friend on Schiff’s staff, Adam Schiff, anyone else on Schiff’s staff who worked on the report and Atkinson. I would have the Senate wrap this up with a timeline and explanation of the Impeachment Hoax, how it began and how it was developed, naming names. This would be a tightly focused investigation into nothing but the history of the impeachment effort and how it came about.

      I would have a parallel investigation going on in the Senate into exactly who, in the Dem House, ever stated before witnesses were called an intent to impeach the president, and add to that list all who were openly in favor of impeachment as the House investigation went forward, and a conclusion that none of these people is qualified to vote, due to prior bias as shown by their own words, meaning that the Senate declares the impeachment invalid due to a lack of qualified votes. I’d name the names, with Schiff and Pelosi at the top of the list.

      I would love to see, by the middle of the summer, the public presented with two conclusions: One that the impeachment itself is invalid due to its passage by people openly in favor of impeachment for any reason long before these reasons were presented and the stated cause of them ever took place and the other an explanation of how the Dems manipulated the system by violating the Espionage Act and changing rules and filing a sworn report knowingly based on lies just to damage the president. My conclusion would be a flagrant violation of trust and of blatant abuse of power, with the American public paying for it all.

      A passing reference could be the similarity of the Dems using perjury, in the form of false sworn statements, to pursue political goals and use the power of the State to do their dirty work for them.

      All the heads of this Medusa-like swamp creature have to be chopped off, some by Durham and some by the Senate. We can’t be getting all delicate and conflict-averse and fluttery and “let’s just move on” or the monster will rise again. We can’t just say “a Trump victory will vindicate us”.

      Trump is doing his job. He is undermining the authority of federal agencies in several ways, including getting them out of the Beltway as well as slashing their size and authority. He is getting illegal immigration a little more under control—it will take a GOP Congress to pass any significant legislation on that but in the meantime slowing the flood of illegals at the border is a good start. He is gaining ground on the economic front, wielding tariffs and the threats of tariffs to force more cooperation from other nations. He is holding firm on reducing our military footprint overseas while beefing up the military at home. He is appointing conservative judges and justices. And he is standing up to the onslaught of Leftist attacks on every pretense from every direction. But he can’t do it alone.

      We need to push the Senate to do its part, and expose the Left’s use and abuse of Congressional power and its inherently dishonest and unethical tactics,

      • Retired Spook December 19, 2019 / 12:55 pm

        We need to push the Senate to do its part

        Unfortunately it probably has to start in the Senate Judiciary Committee where Lindsey Graham is the chairman. If he hadn’t been the primary John McCain acolyte for most of his Senate career, I’d have more trust in Graham. He’s been promising to get to the bottom of the Russia hoax for the better part of a year, maybe longer. I have little faith that he ever will.

      • Amazona December 19, 2019 / 1:38 pm

        Re: Lindsey Graham—I know. He is all over the place, ranging from Honey Badger to wimpy. (For Honey Badger reference, I recommend the highly profane and politically incorrect youtube video which will explain a lot.)

        But I don’t see a downside to having a muscular and focused Senate addressing serious issues that affect our entire country. He’s close to retirement, I would imagine, and probably rich enough to not need to worry about whose toes he might step on, and a big Senate victory or two would seem to be a great legacy.

      • Cluster December 21, 2019 / 9:25 am

        Honey badger doesn’t give a shit

  9. Cluster December 19, 2019 / 9:29 am

    Speaking about stupidity … the Courts finally figured out what all of us knew 10 years ago:

    The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling today that found Obamacare’s individual mandate to be unconstitutional as it exists today. The court did not reach a conclusion on whether or not the mandate was severable from the rest of the Obamacare law. Instead, the court sent the case back to a lower court to answer that question.

    They finally figured that one out. Folks we give these people far too much credibility for being smart and more importantly … honest. Many of them are neither.

    https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/12/18/appeals-court-rules-obamacares-individual-mandate-unconstitutional/

  10. Cluster December 19, 2019 / 10:47 am

    This is the best GOP campaign ad line I have ever seen.

    “We cannot rely on an election to solve our problems,” says Jerry Nadler

    The democrats have many problems and they definitely don’t want the voters to hold them accountable.

    • Amazona December 19, 2019 / 10:59 am

      As I keep saying, if we are patient the Left will tell us what they really think and really have in mind for the country. They truly do think that, as the elites they see in their mirrors they are the only ones qualified to make decisions for the nation. The smelly Wal Mart shoppers, the rednecks with accents and the hicks out in Flyover Country are just not ‘special’ enough to run the country.

      We heard it after the last election, when “elites” on both coasts complained that the uneducated deplorables out in the middle of the country are just not qualified to choose our leaders. When we went ahead and did it anyway, and the leader we chose has been doing a better job than anyone approved by the elites, they started to melt down. As we saw recently when Jeffrey Toobin simply dismissed a poll because he didn’t like what it said, this is the party of The Voices In Our Heads.

      The hardcore Left behind the curtain is just afraid that Trump is going to do permanent damage to the structures they have built and embedded into this nation, but the levels below them, like those in Congress, are just outraged—OUTRAGED !!! I tell you!—-that their vast superiority is just not being acknowledged. And they will have none of that. And we will pay.

      • Cluster December 19, 2019 / 1:04 pm

        The louder their screams are the more we know we are on the right track. Let’s keep inflicting pain. I love the smell of progressive angst in the morning.

      • Amazona December 19, 2019 / 1:43 pm

        Yeah, but just getting a kick out of their flailing and moaning is not enough. Instead of end zone celebrations about small victories we need to keep running up the score. Being “on the right track” is meaningless if we don’t keep pushing down that track, if we stop before we accomplish something more meaningful than a temporary win. The Left plays Long Ball and Big Picture and we on the Right tend to never look past the next shiny thing that grabs our attention and peering through a straw and only seeing a small segment of what is really going on.

        We need peripheral vision and a long range plan that addresses not just the immediate distraction but the entirety of the Leftist strategy. Trump sees this but unfortunately his base tends to paddle along on the surface and then back off instead of grabbing an advantage and escalating it to a bigger and more meaningful victory.

  11. Cluster December 19, 2019 / 2:28 pm

    I just saw that POS human scum Swalwell on tv speaking with a “journalist” about impeachment and the need for “fairness” and I have to wonder why any media outlet would have him on without requiring him to first present the evidence that Trump is a Russian agent that he said he had a couple of years ago. That should be the first question and Swalwell either needs to produce it or apologize. And if he does not produce it, or apologize then he should never be allowed to opine about any subject in the media … ever. What in the hell is wrong with this country where we allow straight up lying scum to have air time???

    • Amazona December 20, 2019 / 11:17 am

      … POS human scum Swalwell…

      Have you noticed how the Dems radiate such hatefulness and malice? This is no longer a matter of people sharing a common love of country and concept of what would be best for it but simply having different ideas of how to accomplish that, which is the way our two main political parties used to relate to each other, Now it seems that to be a Dem means to hate, to loathe, to despise people who are not, and to flaunt a smug contempt for them.

      For all of the posturing claiming high-minded intellectual analysis of the situation, I have yet to see a glimmer of real intelligence. It’s all been hate, spite and malice, though a few do understand the need to at least pretend to have an objective thought process associated with what they are doing.

      • Cluster December 20, 2019 / 5:41 pm

        I have never seen anything like it actually. The complicit media is STILL trying to sell the Russian collusion myth … I never thought anyone would willfully ignore what … 4 investigations? The Senate, the House, the FBI, and Mueller and none of them found anything yet it is still broadcasted far and wide in our media. It’s amazing

  12. Cluster December 19, 2019 / 2:59 pm

    So the video tape from outside the cell of Epstein’s first attempted suicide has gone missing. Let that sink in. Epstein didn’t kill himself

    There are some dark malevolent forces out there folks. The same cabal that protected and engaged with Epstein, is the same cabal espousing open borders, one world government, and Leftist control. The societal chaos we find ourselves in is a direct result of this cabal and it has nothing to do with a deference to the Constitution. They despise the Constitution and will repeal it in a heartbeat if given the chance. The Democrat party and the media are complicit in this agenda. We do need peripheral vision and had better be prepared. He has instructed us to confront evil and now is the time.

  13. Cluster December 20, 2019 / 3:12 pm

    Adam Schiff is pure human scum and I really hope I find myself in the same room with him some day.

    Adam Schiff: Well, we have acquired a piece of evidence, classified by Jennifer Williams, something she alluded to in her open testimony. Then going back and looking through her records she found other information that was pertinent to that phone call that we asked her about and made that submission. There is nothing that is classified in the document but the vice president’s office has said they are going to classify… It is not proper to classify something because it would be embarrassing or incriminating. And that submission does shed light on the vice president’s knowledge. We think the American people should see it.

    • Amazona December 20, 2019 / 11:14 pm

      Is he claiming the Vice President had some knowledge of what Trump said that goes beyond what Trump said? Because we know what Trump said, and we know what the voices in the heads of Trump haters say he really meant when he said what they don’t believe he meant.

      In the meantime, Jen needs to find a new job. And as for Schiff claiming to be an expert on what is “proper” well, I don’t think so. Look at how carefully this is phrased. “Classified by Jennifer Williams”? Who is Jennifer Williams to assign classified status to anything? And she “found ,,,information that was pertinent to that phone call…” ? That’s pretty vague. You know what’s “pertinent to the phone call”? THE PHONE CALL. That is all.

      This is exactly what you can expect from a slimy lying weasel like Schiff—-slimy dishonest innuendo. I’d tell him the “evidence” will be declassified the day after he produces the proof that Trump colluded with Russia to change the outcome of the election.

  14. Cluster December 20, 2019 / 3:50 pm

    I don’t know how many of you watch MSNBC but they are twisting themselves into knots lately. The most recent is foreign aid – MSNBC is doing a segment right now on the misuse of foreign aid as it relates to Afghanistan and how much money was wasted and tied up in corruption. This followed a segment on Ukraine where the panelists were saying that any delay in the foreign aid to Ukraine was simply unacceptable.

    YCMTSU

  15. Cluster December 20, 2019 / 4:25 pm

    The first question of any Democrat debate should be:

    For the last two decades Democrats have exclusively governed Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Baltimore and today those cities are some of the most violent cities in the country and are in complete chaos with homeless people using the city sidewalks as bathrooms, unsustainable public employee pension programs, rampant drug use and crimes, and housing prices that no average wage earner can afford, Tell me Mr. Candidate, how will you govern differently?

    • Retired Spook December 20, 2019 / 5:12 pm

      FNC is not allowed to participate in the debates, so don’t hold your breath waiting for that question to be asked. But you can take solace in the fact that the Democrats are pretty much self destructing in the areas you mentioned. Stein’s Law is definitely in play.

      Meanwhile in Trump’s America, all 3 major stock indices closed at new all-time highs.

  16. Retired Spook December 20, 2019 / 10:15 pm

    Mike Huckabee decided to follow up President Trump’s letter to Nancy Pelosi with one of his own:

    Dear Madam Speaker:

    I read the six-page letter sent to you by President Trump on the eve of his impeachment and thought that as long as letters are flying around, I would send you one myself, just as someone trying to help.

    The biggest question for you now is what to do next as you contemplate what action might be taken in the Senate. Your follow-up strategy is very important, I know, to your goal of damaging the President as much as possible before the 2020 election, but right now you and your Democrat colleagues are busy celebrating — behind closed doors, of course — and it’s hard for people who are giddy with merriment and even perhaps a bit hungover to chart their next steps. (You’ve tried your best to look somber and be discreet about the celebrations, but some news accounts have slipped out. You know how it is with leaks.) The impeachment of President Trump is your long-awaited Christmas gift to yourselves, and now that you have finally unwrapped it, you naturally want to play with it a while. Goodness, you’ve worked so hard and have come so far. And you must all be very proud of yourselves, considering you got this done completely on your own, with not one single vote from the Republican side. Who needs those Republicans, right? You made up your own rules and accomplished the deed all by yourselves.

    You worked and planned for this, and only this, literally for years. You were singleminded. You did it. You own this.

    But now it’s time for the Senate to take it on. And I just read in THE DAILY CALLER that you are “leaving open” the possibility of withholding the articles of impeachment from Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell until you are “assured a fair trial in the Senate.” You said that, so far, you haven’t seen anything that looks fair to you. You’ve apparently suggested to reporters that you plan to hold up the impeachment process.

    Wow, what an idea! You get to put the “black mark” of impeachment by President Trump’s name, after railroading him in Adam Schiff’s kangaroo court. And then, for as long as the Senate has to wait to dismiss the charges or have their trial, those charges, vague as they are, continue to officially hang over him. You, of course, use those charges to try to discredit any appointments or other Presidential actions.

    The founding fathers never intended something like this, and we know how much you respect the founding fathers because you mention that so often, but, hey, the founders would surely understand if they knew President Trump was really an agent of Russia, right? Of course they would. They would no doubt give their blessing to anything you did under these unique circumstances.

    Anyway, you’ve said you think the President is “goading” you to come after him because he thinks it will “fire up his base.” And, my goodness, I see that you really are playing along. I understand you are still sending out congressional subpoenas to certain prospective witnesses that you didn’t have time to include in Schiff’s proceedings, as you needed to rush through impeachment by Christmas so you could open your present and “ooh” and “ahh.” You didn’t have time for the court challenge from Trump that would have had to go before a judge (who might have ruled against you), so you just labeled the exercise of his constitutional rights as “obstruction” and forged ahead. As a result, even though you’ve already presented your case for impeachment and voted on it, you’re still working on investigations of Trump, plus his close allies and cabinet members, in three committees: Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs. It just never ends.

    How diligent of you to continue building a case against the President even after your part is supposed to be done. This must be why you want to keep calling witnesses even in the Senate. That wish is certainly understandable, Madam Speaker, considering you have no actual evidence at all at this point. It simply isn’t fair for them to require you to make do with the evidence you have –- hearsay and gossip and presumption that wouldn’t even be allowed in a court of law. Goodness, how unfair it would be for the Senate to refuse to allow you to continue digging until you finally found something. And we know how deeply concerned you are with basic fairness.

    So let me get to the point of this letter. I have a helpful suggestion for you that will give you the fairness you crave, and I think Sen. McConnell might be persuaded to go along with the idea. To make sure the process is scrupulously fair, here’s what you do: just have him follow exactly the same rules in the Senate that Adam Schiff did in the House. There you go, fairness!

    This is how it will work: Sen. McConnell gets to make up the rules he wants, just as Schiff did, and being in the majority (as you were in the House), the Republicans vote straight party-line to approve them. Since you are the minority, you don’t get to call witnesses, but they do, and the witnesses can offer any “evidence” they want. You can ask questions –- that’s only fair –- but only the ones McConnell approves. The Senate majority has the option to dismiss the charges, of course, or it can subpoena Adam Schiff, his staff, Eric Ciaramella (alias “the whistleblower”), Hunter Biden, Joe Biden (after all, just because he’s running for President, he doesn’t have immunity), and numerous others. Maybe even Ukrainian President Zelensky would like to come testify — no quid pro quo involved.

    THAT would be fair. After the way you treated the House Republicans, the slightest concession you get from the Senate should be considered gravy. And withholding the articles of impeachment is not going to help you, Madame Speaker, as it will just make you folks look more pathetic than you already do, if that is possible. This is one Christmas present you might be sorry you asked for.

    Just trying to help. I’ll leave you with a quote from ranking House Judiciary member Doug Collins: “…history will reflect that Donald Trump is the third President to be impeached. History may also shortly reflect that he’ll be the first President to be re-elected after being wrongfully impeached.”

    Sincerely,

    Gov. Mike Huckabee

    PS. Rep. Collins also said this; I thought you might appreciate it: “The funny thing about obstruction, any time the Democrats get caught trying to frame this President for some crime he didn’t commit, they follow up by accusing him of obstructing their efforts to frame him for the things he never did in the first place.”

  17. Amazona December 21, 2019 / 11:56 am

    I still say the Senate should be proactive, in a very aggressive way, and after the holidays announce that while they are waiting to see if the House has enough confidence in its articles of impeachment to test them in a legitimate trial the Senate has decided to mount its own investigation into the origins of the impeachment effort and how the process came together.

    “Don’t worry, folks, at least for now we are quite happy to leave your impeachment decision on the shelf to rot, We’re just going to learn how the process was constructed.” If there is any rule allowing the Senate full autonomy over its own hearings, I would invoke that rule, so Dems can’t question witnesses,

    Then I would call one or two witnesses to go through the list of statements by various Dems of their intent to impeach the President and put every documented statement into the record. This would include the various reasons given by House Dems for impeachment, which were silly at the time and have not held up well over the months. Lay out the “Show me the man and I will find you a crime” strategy, and be sure to quote Beria and identify him as the head of Stalin’s dreaded secret police.

    Then just whip right through the final effort. Call Vindman and ask him what he actually HEARD the president say, why he thought he would legally be allowed to discuss the conversation with someone not cleared for it, why he thought it OK to tell this second party not the actual words of the president but what he felt was the true hidden meaning behind them. Do it right. Go into his oath of office as a military officer, go into the confidentiality agreement he signed (probably several times) and discuss the military consequences for violation of these agreements. Pin a list of offenses on Vindman.

    Then call Ciaramella and ask him what Vindman told him, if he had the security clearance to participate in such a conversation, who HE told and why, did he tell anyone who lacked the proper security clearances, did he realize that he had not been told what Trump really said but only an attribution of its alleged hidden meaning, was his friend’s sudden move to the Schiff staff connected in any way with discussions about what to do with the Vindman information, when was the report sent to Schiff or his staff, what happened then, who wrote it, who suggested running it through the IC whistleblower system? Pin a list of offenses on Ciaramella, including perjury and violation of the confidentiality agreement.

    Ditto for Ciaramella’s friend. Why did he move to Schiff’s staff, when, what was his security clearance, what did he and Ciaramella talk about, who wrote the report? Pin a list of offenses on him,

    Atkinson. When did he learn of the phone call? Of the report? When did he change the rule about hearsay? Why? Why did he forward the report when he knew it did not meet the criteria of a legitimate whistleblower report, not being about an offense committed by someone in the IC or related in any way to an IC offense? Set him up for consequences related to what he did.

    Issue a report on the form and structure of the impeachment, from its inception at Trump’s election to its final form lying on a shelf in the Dem House waiting to see if anyone is willing to take ownership of it.

    There is no reason to wait for the impeachment itself to be delivered to look into the process, and in fact it might not be appropriate to study the process in the context of an impeachment trial. So wrap it up, get it out of the way and have a formal description of what happened complete with evidence, exhibits and sworn testimony.

  18. Cluster December 21, 2019 / 12:46 pm

    Joe Scarborough: Everything we fought for, this GOP has betrayed

    Well then you were fighting for the wrong things Joe because this GOP and President have advanced more of the conservative agenda than any other President or GOP Congress EVER. Thank God you were defeated.

    • Amazona December 21, 2019 / 11:25 pm

      Everything we fought for, this GOP has betrayed… and, God willing, will continue to betray defeat until everything you have fought for is dead, buried and rotting in its grave. That is, the tyranny of elite governance resulting in a massively powerful Central Authority and loss of individual rights and liberties.

      This is the job President Trump has undertaken, and he has the admiration and support of tens of millions of Americans who applaud it plus tens of millions of people in other nations who look to these victories as signs of hope for their own countries and themselves.

      When people look at you, Joe (though very few do) what the see is a surly, petty defeated loser unable to retire gracefully from the arena but desperately clinging to his fantasy of relevance even as he beclowns himself with every word.

  19. Cluster December 22, 2019 / 10:41 am

    When people look at you, Joe (though very few do) what the see is a surly, petty defeated loser unable to retire gracefully from the arena but desperately clinging to his fantasy of relevance even as he beclowns himself with every word.

    You nailed it LMAO

  20. Cluster December 22, 2019 / 10:54 am

    Nancy Pelosi is guilty of abuse of power and obstruction …. period, and should be held accountable. I know the botox treatments have ramped up lately and it may have affected her brain but she has ZERO power to influence the Senate’s handling of this impeachment charade and I have no idea why she thinks she does or why the media plays along with it …. oh wait

    DESTROY DEMOCRATS 2020

  21. Cluster December 22, 2019 / 10:55 am

    I can’t think of anything that could wrong /sarc

    An activist group revealed their plans to build a $3billion city to house homeless citizens in California (pictured). Citizens Again believes this effort will solve the state’s homeless crisis. A press release said the city will have amenities like communal TVs, a hospital and healthcare. The community will also have underground tunnels to ‘minimize disruption of citizen life’. California has an ongoing homeless crisis that has been criticized by public officials like President Donald Trump and Ben Carson.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7818615/Activists-hope-solve-California-homeless-crisis-building-3billion-private-city.html

    • Retired Spook December 22, 2019 / 11:05 am

      It’s a well recognized fact that when you subsidize and accommodate something you get more of it. Yet another reminder that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    • jdge1 December 22, 2019 / 7:01 pm

      ”The community will also have underground tunnels to ‘minimize disruption of citizen life.” Is that like’ “out of sight, out of mind”, subconsciously trying to hide the problem? Sure seems highly discriminatory to me. Of course they’ll want full federal funding for this wonderful absurd idea. We couldn’t possibly ask all of those mega rich leftist Hollywood types to foot the bill. And after we build this city, how much more will it costs to run & maintain everything? Anyone willing to guess what that will costs and how much money hidden entities will pocket before, during and after its construction? Spook’s often stated “rule of holes” sure seems to apply here.

      • Amazona December 22, 2019 / 10:29 pm

        … it will take close to 200 years to create enough shelters to house the 90,000 unsheltered chronic homeless adults. Nobody wants to wait that long,’…

        Uhhhhh….what about addressing the root cause of homelessness?

        That is, first weed out those capable of work and don’t give them anything they have not earned by working at some productive job. Many able-bodied homeless people have admitted they just don’t want to work and why should they, when they can set up panhandling crews and live off the charity of others? Make panhandling illegal, roust the camps under bridges and so on, make every “homeless” person sleep in a shelter and do something to earn that and the food he gets. Sweeping streets, cleaning toilets, whatever. No freebies. No handouts.

        Set up work camps, where people sleep in dormitories, undergo drug and alcohol testing, and have to work. And give them no alternative. No being ignored when they sleep in parks, etc. Cut off that option completely. Instead of going to jail they get sentenced to work camps where they have to follow certain rules and pay their way. When they are tired of this then offer training for real jobs, and move them into shared apartments where they have to pay rent. Set up incremental steps from being totally dependent to being at least partially self-sufficient.

        Clearly some government has be involved in some way, so make it a productive way designed to slowly change the mentality that it is OK to not work.

        A man in Denver who referred to himself in his previous life as a “bum”—“don’t call me homeless, be honest and say I was a bum”—changed his life and started a program he called Step 13. It was for men only, and to join a man had to make a commitment to change. They started off in dormitories, with strict rules on drugs and alcohol, and they had to work. He eventually was able to buy an old industrial building where he had his dormitories, and some small apartments upstairs for the few who had earned this. And they had to pay rent. He said he did this because so many of the bums had no previous frame of reference, so the idea of earning something just did not compute. But when they could be invited to watch a football game in a private apartment and see that the work paid for the apartment, the furniture, the TV, some game snacks, it started to make sense to them.

        He used to be a guest one day a year, at about this time of year, on all three hours of a local conservative talk show, where he talked very openly about the mindset that makes living on the street seem OK, and he changed hundreds of lives by understanding that mindset, working to slowly change it, and imposing discipline and order on undisciplined and disorganized lives and minds.

        He died a few years ago but Step 13 lives on. They now have a remote parking area for the Denver airport, where their people who have moved into the advanced stages of training not only shuttle people to the airport but offer services like vehicle detailing.

        The California plan is dehumanizing, telling people that they are really no better than livestock that must be sheltered and fed but are incapable of participating in society as equals.

        I wonder if they will be sterilized so they don’t breed, or if pregnancies will just be ended by killing the babies.

        Wow. this has such a USSR kind of vibe……

    • Amazona December 22, 2019 / 11:00 pm

      Let’s keep in mind, also, that many homeless have mental health issues. We as a society bought into the silliness that mental health hospitals where the mentally ill had to live when they were not competent to care for themselves were inhumane, so people were kicked out onto the streets. Here they became prey, with their monthly checks stolen within days of receipt, incapable of shopping and cooking for themselves or staying clean or healthy. These people were the core of “homelessness” that expanded to include drug and alcohol addicts and people who are just plain bums.

      Many mentally ill people should be hospitalized, taken off the streets. And look what has happened in the past when people who are mentally ill, who are chemically dependent, who are social misfits, are crammed together in well-meaning government housing. Every big city has “projects” where people were warehoused because they were not productive, and these places have become hellholes of violence and misery.

      The big mantra of the Left, whenever it decides to follow a path that has failed, and failed spectacularly every time it has been followed, is “Well, it will be different this time”.

      And it never is.

  22. jdge1 December 22, 2019 / 11:14 pm

    While checking into some things on the internet I stumbled on this. Seems Obama signed an executive order allowing the UN to use force against US citizens. Though this is old news, it’s something I wasn’t aware. This got me thinking about the DHS ordering over 450 million, .40 caliber hollow-point bullets. In my research for that 450 million number, it seems some articles have indicated Homeland Security actually ordered somewhere in the neighbor of 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, of which 450 million were to be hollow-point. And, apparently the hollow-point is forbidden by international law for use in war. So, their unstated purpose?

    In addition to this perplexing purchase of ammo, the DHS was also in the acquisition mode of heavily armored personnel carriers. ”Why would they need such over-the-top vehicles on U.S. streets to withstand IEDs, mine blasts, and 50 caliber hits to bullet-proof glass? In a war zone… yes, definitely. Let’s protect our men and women. On the streets of America… ?”

    When I look at the article listed above, it’s easy to see why the left are working so diligently to grow the powers of the UN, whose governing body of elitists gain their position totally outside of the will of the US citizens. I’m guessing this was/is at least one backup plan for the leftist’s inability to disarm the law-abiding US gun owners. It is imperative that the US government not be allowed to expand gun control laws against US citizens. In fact, it’s imperative that socialists, leftists, communists (though I repeat myself) individuals and organizations be removed from all positions of government, law enforcement, military, judicial, education, media, etc… and be pushed into oblivion.

    There have been comments here on BFV about how stripping US gun owners of their rightful arms would be difficult to accomplish, especially by force from LE. I suspect the left recognizes this and are working to accomplish their goal by other means, however needed to gain totalitarian power. Do not think for one second the left will not use illegal means to continue to quench their thirst for power. The sham of the recent impeachment process should make this clear. Without question there are powerful entities already far down the road in ideas and action working to dismantle and destroy anyone who would attempt to get in their way.

    Prayer is a powerful force, but we must also stand up to this blatant, evil attempt to strip us of our freedoms. Our voices must highlight the truth, expose the lies and confront the attacks against us. Though it can be challenging, never tire of promoting the truth. I believe in large part, despite of all of the negative attacks against Trump from so many sources, he is completing many of his objectives and promises to those who put him in office. Though we are yet to see how the next year unfolds in relation to the lefts attempt to remove Trump from office and the 2020 election, I see many signs people waking up to the lies of the left and a growing support for Trump. Still, we must do our part.

    • Amazona December 23, 2019 / 1:06 am

      jdge1, brilliant post and one I will keep. I have heard bits and pieces of this but you put it all together very well. You mentioned Homeland Security—I remember reading that other agencies, including Social Security, were stockpiling millions of rounds of ammo, much of it hollow point.

      Really? The Social Security Administration has to be heavily armed? And we have seen the outcome of a militarized BLM, particularly in Nevada.

      We may be waking up to the lies of the Left, but are still blind to the dangers.

      BTW, I caught the last few minutes of Ken Starr on Mark Levin tonight and his summary of the impeachment effort was scathing and brutal. I will need to see if I can find the whole show or at least some clips of it.

    • Amazona December 23, 2019 / 1:16 am

      I have hated the new light bulbs ever since they came out. For a couple of years I was having to travel a lot and spend a lot of nights in motels and actually had to carry my own light bulb so I could read in a motel room. I have been complaining about CFLs since they first appeared, and still hate hate hate them. People keep saying how much they have improved, but they still suck, and LEDs not only cost too much, they don’t live up to the hype of lasting a long time.

      On top of that, ranchers and farmers and probably many others got hit hard when we couldn’t find normal 100W incandescent bulbs, because they have been used as heat sources to protect from freezing. Nearly all automatic stock waterers for years were set up to have a 100W bulb in the casing to keep the pipes and water bowls from freezing. I had a log house in the mountains with a crawl space where all the pipes were kept from freezing by having two 100W bulbs burning all winter long. I’ll bet hundreds of thousands of dollars have been spent replacing otherwise perfectly functional stock waterers with newer ones with different and far more expensive heating systems.

      I have cursed that nanny-state move since its inception. And I once read it was introduced by a Republican, just more proof that a letter on the lapel doesn’t mean a thing.

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