Open Thread

Bernie is supposed to win the Nevada Caucus this Saturday – but I’ve been seeing on TV that Democrats are complaining about how bad the early voting went (and how the heck do you early vote in a caucus? Who is keeping the records?). Meanwhile, the Culinary Union – 800 lb gorilla in Nevada Politics – has been putting out anti- Bernie flyers. My guess: they are going to try and rig it against Bernie. Stay tuned.

Meanwhile, to heck with wanting to run against Bernie – we want Bloomberg! This guy is the archetype arrogant, rich jerk…thinks he’s smart because he’s rich and drips with contempt for anyone poorer than he is. If the Democrats nominate him, we’ll destroy them up and down the ballot.

Coronavirus slowly gets frightening:

More than 700 people in Washington State are being publicly supervised for coronavirus, according to new results from the Washington State Department of Health.

The department said Tuesday 746 people in the state are under public health supervision, including those at risk of having been exposed to novel coronavirus. These people are monitoring their health under the supervision of public health officials.

H/T: Legal Insurrection.

President Trump to visit Los Angeles to check on homelessness and 2028 Olympic prep: going right into the belly of the beast! It is good – it will allow Trump to be front and center being President, attack Democrats on their incompetence…and fire up GOP voters in California to turn out in November. There is, of course, zero chance Trump wins California this year…and I mean zero. But, OTOH, I’ve seen some reports that California Latinos are starting to trend a bit GOP (upper class whites are trending even more Democrat). I can definitely see it: the bottom line is that Latinos have seen big improvements under Trump and most of them are probably tired of the corruption and incompetence of California’s Democrats. What the heck does Jose in Compton, who just wants to raise his family, have in common with Democrats who are too busy fighting climate change to clean the sh** off the city streets? We’ll see how this plays out – Trump wants a popular vote win. He doesn’t need it, but he wants it…he wants to put an end to all Democrat arguments against him. And there were several million pro-GOP voters in California who didn’t show up in 2016 because there was no reason to…Trump wants to give them a reason to show up.

Hanoi Jane will mark the Kent State anniversary at Kent State. WTF is this old, hagged out Commie traitor supposed to say?

Blue on Blue fighting: Soros wants Zuckerberg forced out of Facebook because Soros believes he’s helping Trump. Thing about Lefties is they always assume they’ll be the Commissar, never the Kulak. Zuckerberg is about to learn his lesson…we’ll see if he stands firm or offers a grovelling apology to the Party.

16 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster February 19, 2020 / 6:11 pm

    If the Democrats nominate him (Bloomberg), we’ll destroy them up and down the ballot.

    Oh I agree with that. I never knew much about this guy but I am honestly shocked by the comments he has made and the indifference and arrogance in which they were said. He is the epitome of the term “elite” and it would be profoundly hypocritical for the Democrats to nominate this billionaire former Republican, but if he is the nominee, he will be defeated in spectacular fashion and that will be fun to watch.

    Did any of you see the Jorge Ramos/Joe Biden interview? Ramos is a first class POS who lectured Biden on immigration and asked Joe if he felt any responsibility for turning away illegal immigrants when he was VP and what how he plans to remedy it. Well needless to say, Joe cowered and admitted his mistakes and apologized. What a weak POS. Um…. Senor Ramos, the ONLY people responsible for the illegal immigrants are their parents, their family, and their country (Mexico) all of whom have failed them on every level. That’s where the blame lies Jorge. Now ask Joe what Hunter did with the millions of dollars he got from Ukraine.

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2020 / 8:27 pm

      I think Trump would have a blast running against Bloomberg. Stuff keeps dribbling out from just the last few years that makes him look like the biggest hypocrite on the planet. I love it when he talks about solving climate change while having one of the largest carbon footprints of any of the Democrat candidates by several orders of magnitude.

  2. Pke42 February 20, 2020 / 5:58 am

    Oh my. That was an amusing circular firing squad last night.

    • Cluster February 20, 2020 / 8:44 am

      Yes it was. From the little that I watched, Elizabeth Warren definitely came in with a scorched earth attack plan. I think she had the lowest of the blows but they were all swinging for the fences lol

  3. Cluster February 20, 2020 / 6:23 pm

    Rinse & Repeat

    WASHINGTON — Intelligence officials warned House lawmakers last week that Russia was interfering in the 2020 campaign to try to get President Trump re-elected

  4. Retired Spook February 22, 2020 / 6:42 pm

    Looks like Sanders is walking away with the Nevada caucuses. GO BERNIE, GO!

  5. Amazona February 22, 2020 / 6:50 pm

    According to former Obama 2008 campaign spokesman Zach Friend, both Sanders and President Donald Trump share the same base but if Democrats choose a moderate, he or she could win the general election.

    “I think they have the same base actually. I think that that’s what’s interesting about this.

    Seriously? Wow, what an excellent example of Identity Politics—the small-federal-government, personal liberty, pro-life, low-tax free market guy has “the same base, actually” as the big-government, power-consolidated-with-the-elites, pro-abortion tyrannical high-tax guy?

    Because……???? Because they are both New York billionaires?

    In a long list of inane, stupid comments, this is near or at the top of the list.

    However, I do think that Trump, and all Republicans in general, have to stop just using words like “socialism” and start using terms that define socialism. People inherently distrust elites who have control over their lives. People inherently distrust consolidating power in the hands of a few. People inherently want to feel that they have something to say about how they can live their lives.

    We on the Right tend to toss out phrases like “small government”, “capitalism” and so on. They have become meaningless because most people have no idea what they really mean. Look at all the people who think there is a choice between capitalism and socialism, including “economics major” AOC. But capitalism is an economic system, and socialism is a political system with an economic aspect in that the political system controls the economy.

    “Democratic Socialism” only sounds appealing because it sounds like the people have control and can choose what is given to whom. I still haven’t heard a single person explain that the SYSTEM is Socialism, and the “Democratic” side is just the illusion that we are in control based on who we elect without realizing they will have to operate within the rigid boundaries of that political system.

    Zach Friend is either profoundly politically illiterate or a bald-faced liar—not that an Obama spokesman can’t be both.

    • Cluster February 23, 2020 / 9:49 am

      Because……???? Because they are both New York billionaires?

      Because they are both anti establishment. Bernie is as much of a threat to the establishment order as Trump is, that’s what has them so worried. The “smart” people in DC are losing on both political ends and they will become more desperate with time.

      Hugo Chavez ran on “Democratic Socialism” in 1999 in Venezuela and won the majority. It was a very close resemblance to the Bernie campaign – wealth inequality, free healthcare, child care, etc. and look at them today. And that was a country of just 30 million people who happen to be located on top of one of the worlds largest oil reserves yet they couldn’t make it happen. What do you think Bernie’s chances are?

      • Amazona February 23, 2020 / 11:19 am

        Then it is up to us to point out that Trump wants to gut the Establishment and its swamp dwellers so we can return to a more citizen-based participatory Constitutional government, while Bernie wants to burn it down so it can be replaced with a far more authoritarian establishment enacting top-down Draconian measures to impose a rigid political system.

        It is up to us to point out that merely fighting against the entrenched Establishment is not enough—what matters is what will replace it.

      • Cluster February 23, 2020 / 11:37 am

        Agreed, that’s why I think a Trump/Sanders contest is the best thing that can happen to this country. There has never been more of stark contrast.

      • Amazona February 23, 2020 / 3:39 pm

        WE know there is a contrast. Rather, WE understand the true nature of the contrast. The question is, will we be focused enough and coherent enough to explain it?

        Right now it is a contrast between an imperfectly understood and often demonized economic system vs an equally imperfectly understood and carefully disguised political model, with emotion tending to support the latter.

        Right now we need someone to organize the GOP, get its members and its leaders on the same page with clearly explained and understood DEFINITIONS. We need to have an arsenal of easy to understand concepts, like “consolidation of power”. It’s a choice between consolidating power in the hands of a few or spreading it around to put it in the hands of the citizens.

        And we need to round up the splinter groups that are conservative but don’t realize it because they think “conservative” means allegiance to a laundry list of mostly social values and issues they may not agree with. I’m thinking of Libertarians here, as well as a lot of legacy Democrats who have never taken the time to analyze the political system they are really voting for when they vote against a Republican or for an issue.

        The Constitution of the United States is an amazingly, radically, libertarian blueprint for governance. It lays out a few enumerated duties of the federal government and then instructs that federal government to examine every agenda brought before it to make sure it falls within those few enumerated duties—-and if the agenda does not, it is kicked out to the states, or to the People, who have free rein to do pretty much anything they want as long as they don’t violate any of the few Constitutional restrictions. But we do a miserable—as in nonexistent—job of explaining this to Libertarians. We should be courting them assiduously, explaining that what they don’t like about the direction our government has gone is exactly what WE don’t like about the direction our government has gone, and that a return to true Constitutional governance will restore that Libertarian philosophy.

        The Libertarian Party pulled in over 4 million votes in 2016—-they should have gone to Trump, and a lot of them would have, with a more focused and coherent explanation of his goals and agendas in terms Libertarians want to hear. But don’t make Trump do all the heavy lifting—every single state GOP should be reaching out to Libertarians, and to disaffected Dems and those squishy “Independents” explaining the reality of a truly Constitutional government.

        One day I was listening to a prominent radio show with a host I respect fawning over an author and promoting his new book, with what were essentially meaningless phrases. What the hell does “smaller government” mean to the average person? Fewer cops and firemen? ???? When is the last time you heard some “conservative” take that phrase and then break it down into an explanation of shifting authority from the central to the local, and the rationale behind it? Personally, I never have. We just toss out these canned phrases and leave them lying there, without any explanation or justification, and then wonder why they get so little attention or respect.

        When is the last time a TV talking head explained the rationale, and effect, of the slashing of size and authority of the EPA, other than possibly a passing reference to fewer regulations—which scares a lot of people because the Left jumps on it and defines it as DIRTY AIR AND UNSAFE WATER !!!!! Sure, we need to keep uncovering bad deeds, lies and tricks of the Left, but that is wearying after a while—-I think it’s time to organize all that info and turn it over to the DOJ and start talking TO people, about what is going on and what it means and why. Not poor babbling Sean Hannity, whose “questions” now involve hundreds of words as he frantically tries to insert every talking point of the last six months into every utterance, but people who can bring in interesting guests and explain how things work and why.

        Right now the only one doing this is Mark Levin, whose guests are amazing and interesting and relevant and who has reined in his prior juvenile insulting manner in favor of a more restrained and scholarly approach. I think he has the only truly EDUCATIONAL show on TV right now.

      • Cluster February 23, 2020 / 6:30 pm

        a few enumerated duties of the federal government and then instructs that federal government to examine every agenda brought before it to make sure it falls within those few enumerated duties—-and if the agenda does not, it is kicked out to the states, or to the People, who have free rein to do pretty much anything they want as long as they don’t violate any of the few Constitutional restrictions. But we do a miserable—as in nonexistent—job of explaining this to Libertarians.

        I am not convinced that many in the GOP would even know what you just described. Remember, we have decades of political promises that have led people to believe that the Federal government can Constitutionally be an all imposing authority, which we all know to be not the case but reeducating millions of people will take a long time and will require a lot more shows like Levin.

        A Trump Sanders general election would be a great time to draw that distinction and inform the electorate of the Constitutional limitations but more importantly educate them on how these programs can be administered much more efficiently and effectively at the state level anyway. If you really want to help people, put government closer to them so that they can more easily hold their government accountable.

      • Amazona February 23, 2020 / 9:37 pm

        I am not convinced that many in the GOP would even know what you just described

        And that is my point. But it can be explained, and must be explained. There is a vast reservoir of disaffected citizenry that is disillusioned and depressed because they have been sold such a bill of goods by the Left that they are afraid of the Right, disgusted by the Left and unaware of the realities of our core political system. And we are going to blow it. We are going to keep on hammering, bludgeoning the public with anger and revelations of wrongdoing, and driving them farther and farther away.

        That is why I think we should publicly state, as a party, the intent to step away from most of the bickering and finger-pointing, and while our investigative journalists are doing a great job and it’s fine to publish their findings we should then turn everything over to the DOJ and start a public relations campaign, to win over the hearts and minds of those whose hearts and minds have been poisoned by propaganda, or stagnated due to our pathetic educational system.

        I don’t mean knuckle under to bullying and attacks—-I just mean address them, and then get back to explaining things. An example: The other night Mark Levin had a guest who is an expert on FDR, and the things he talked about were astounding. People now get the vapors over Trump’s alleged “abuses of power”—-I’ll bet few of them even know that FDR sent thousands of American citizens to REAL concentration camps, where they lived as prisoners for years, just because they had Japanese heritage, by executive order. I wonder how many people know how much JFK was at odds with his intelligence communities. Americans today have no context so when they are told that whatever Trump is doing is unprecedented and beyond evil they have nothing to compare it to.

        That’s not even getting into the political illiteracy of 90% of Americans, including most of Congress and, evidently, much of the judiciary and all of the Complicit Agenda Media. We might be able to get a little discourse going if the chattering class of conservative pundits would put their muckraking on hold and start to talk about the good stuff—the freedoms our Constitution guarantees if we only follow it, the real meaning of Trump’s whittling away at federal power, etc. Maybe if the Fox people started talking about stuff like this, the other side would feel compelled to try to dismiss it, which would at least get something going besides the constant litany of wrongdoing.

        There is plenty of wrongdoing, but it should be left to the law enforcement community to deal with, at least for the most part. We are stuck with incessant regurgitating of the same old same old—time to shift gears.

  6. Cluster February 23, 2020 / 10:07 am

    So Bernie won the vast majority of Hispanic voters yesterday in Nevada … this is much like Californians escaping their voting record in that State only to relocate and continue to vote the same. You can’t fix stupid.

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