This Open Thread is Exonerated

That feeling of joy you got in your heart earlier today? That was your realization that Justice can still be had in the United States.

Flynn was railroaded, plain and simple – and some of the things coming out today show that Obama knew…what we don’t know, yet, is if he ordered it. We won’t know unless someone turns on him…which would be a very difficult thing for any Establishment type to do because they know that it would forever be over for them. No one in the club would ever let them back in again. I’m not even sure the prospect of 20 years in jail would convince someone to drop dime on Barry.

Be that as it may, what is clearly emerging is that the law enforcement and intelligence agencies of the Obama Administration – and continuing via Deep State operatives during the Trump Administration – cooked up a false investigation to first try to stop Trump from being elected, then to undo the election once he had one. As one Twitter friend of mine put it: in January of 2017, we did not have a peaceful transfer of power. It was all garbage from start to finish. There was never any collusion with Russia by Trump or his team – in fact, its coming out (as I long suspected) that if Putin preferred anyone in 2016, it was Hillary, who was already safely bought and even if not bought, so mind-bogglingly stupid that Putin could get away with bloody murder on her watch.

But we’re still not done – and we won’t be done until at least some of these criminals go to jail. My Father was opposed to the death penalty all his life (as far as I know), but there was one thing he wanted to keep it for: treason. His view was that treason was the worst possible crime because to betray a nation is to attempt to murder every citizen of the nation. The people who thought this up and carried it out are traitors; their loyalty, when not to a foreign paymaster (and I’m certain that a large number are the deep-cover spies of foreign powers) is to their class. They don’t give a damn about our country. Patriots simply do not use lies and blackmail because their side lost the last election. I want these people to go down, very hard.

We’ll see if that happens – the Deep State is still very powerful and its hard to find anyone who has the position to do something who isn’t allied with the Establishment or deathly afraid of it. I hope that Barr has the guts to do it – and I hope he’s found at least a few others with the guts to push this to a conclusion.

35 thoughts on “This Open Thread is Exonerated

  1. Cluster May 8, 2020 / 8:25 am

    I think Barr has the guts to do it, I know Grennel has the guts, I think Ratcliffe has the guts, and I know Trump does so this going to be a long hot summer for those old Obama acolytes. And a very uncomfortable summer for Adam Schiff and if anyone takes a hard fall for this, I hope it is Schiff.

    And this is far from over … MSNBC is already in full spin/protection mode this morning defending the deep state and of course attacking everything Trump. As journalists you would think there would be a dash of skepticism of the government and the tactics employed but NOOOOO, they of course know for sure what happened and who is right and who is wrong and they will tell you that 24/7. Now I will ask you, is that journalism or propaganda?

    One thing that will still need to be cleared up is who wants to get rid of Trump more. Democrats and the deep state? Or China? The Democrats unleashed a false narrative and an FBI investigation to undermine the President. China unleashed a virus. Interesting days ahead.

  2. Cluster May 8, 2020 / 8:49 am

    Well this is interesting:

    The rapid spread of coronavirus infections across the United States is believed to have stemmed from the outbreak in New York City with an estimated 65 percent of cases linked to the epicenter, researchers say. An analysis of genetic samples and travel history suggests that COVID-19 started spreading from New York to other states, including California, Arizona, Louisiana and Texas, weeks before lockdown measures were introduced. The data, analyzed by the New York Times , indicates that more infections across the country are linked to a line of the virus associated with cases in New York rather than Washington state where the first US case was reported in late January.

    So the question I have is – what did Democrats know and when did they know it? Why was Mario Cuomo encouraging NY’ers as late as March 9 to “ride the subway” and “don’t worry about the virus”. And Nancy Pelosi inviting people to SF and Chinatown in mid March. Were they maliciously intending to spread the virus? I put nothing past these people

    • jdge1 May 8, 2020 / 12:07 pm

      Another telling headline.

      ‘Shocking’ Two-Thirds of NY Hospitalized COVID Patients Had Stayed Home, Defying Social Distancing Logic

      It’s only “logic” when used on context with actual data, trends and outcomes. The rest of the time it’s speculation & presumptions, often by “experts” who have something to gain other than the truth.

      • Retired Spook May 8, 2020 / 12:17 pm

        The scientific community, particularly in the cases of Coronavirus and climate change have become highly skilled at moving the goal posts.

  3. jdge1 May 8, 2020 / 12:00 pm

    WTF – Is this a new way to gut the military? What mental midget decided this gem? What happens when the masses either test positive or have the antibodies, meaning the did have the virus at one time?

    ” Anyone who has ever had COVID-19 will be banned from joining the U.S. military, according to a Defense Department memo circulating on social media.

    Pentagon spokeswoman Jessica Maxwell told Military Times the memo is genuine.

    The memo from the Military Entrance Processing Command stated: “During the medical history interview or examination, a history of COVID-19, confirmed by either a laboratory test or a clinician diagnosis, is permanently disqualifying.”

    • Amazona May 9, 2020 / 9:59 pm

      That’s got to be the stupidest damned thing I have ever heard, and this in the Age Of Stupid.

      I would think that the more antibodies a military person has, to the most viruses, the safer he or she will be in any nation in the world.

    • jdge1 May 10, 2020 / 9:31 am

      I suspected as much but this helps put it all in perspective.

  4. Cluster May 9, 2020 / 8:52 am

    I caught just a part of it but yes he was on fire. They all knowingly lied on national TV to alarm the public and undermine the new President. The question I have now is what did the media know and when did they know it. We had media people who also proclaimed Trump to be an asset of Russia with zero evidence, so they should be held accountable equally

    • Retired Spook May 9, 2020 / 12:11 pm

      It’s refreshing to hear that the former President is suddenly concerned with the rule of law after repeatedly shredding it while in office.

  5. Cluster May 9, 2020 / 11:29 am

    Well we all can officially classify Drudge Report now as complicit media. Nothing but panic peddling and censored news stories on racism and covid.

    No stories on the DOJ or the manufactured Russia narrative. And no stories on Schiff trying to cover his tracks. Hopefully Matt will be invited to the next MSNBC cocktail party


  6. Retired Spook May 9, 2020 / 2:34 pm

    I have a hypothetical question for everyone: let’s say a COVID-19 vaccine is rushed to market late this year or early next year. You will be issued an ID card that says you’ve been immunized (some like Bill Gates have even suggested (he claims not seriously, but he helped fund an exploratory study) that everyone who has had COVID-19 be injected with a chip. YCMTSU!! Anyway, the ID card is being talked about seriously. (can you say “papers, please?) You get stopped in public without the ID card, and you get arrested. What do you do? I don’t think it will get that far — lots of dead cops and politicians if it does.

    Brave new world coming, my friends. I’m glad I won’t be around to see it, but my heart bleeds for my kids, grandkids and great grandkids.

    • Amazona May 9, 2020 / 10:08 pm

      Screw the chip. What we need is tattoos! I think the serial number of the test tastefully inked, perhaps on the forearm, would be effective. A simple scan by a nice brownshirted enforcement officer to confirm the test result, and off you go!

    • jdge1 May 10, 2020 / 10:21 am

      Interestingly, my mother talked about the plans by the left (though she described them differently – spawns of satan) to implement “the chip” in all citizens, 20 YEARS AGO. This was apparently a goal at least that far back. The chip would do more than just register individual health data, even though that was what it was largely touted for, it would also be used to track people, their movement, their associations & trends, and attribute some scale to each individual indicating the likelihood that person will “fall in line” or rebel.

      What’s scary (at least to me), I received an email just yesterday from Google, detailing my every movement the prior month. It even showed things like a brief stop I made to my sister’s house. While I knew they could track movement by credit card usage, to realized they can and do track, record and save you every movement tells you they are actually doing much, much more. And we are willingly allowing this to happen, I imagine mostly because of how they frame its “value” or purpose.

      • Amazona May 10, 2020 / 10:37 am

        What does Google use to track you? Is it your phone? Do you use gmail? If you use gmail from your phone did you have to authorize Google to access everything in it?

        This intrusion thing is rampant, and people are quite comfortable with it. I used to use a Sam’s Club program that let me scan my purchases as I put them in my cart, pay directly and bypass the checkout counter. I really liked that. Then they changed their app and to use it I had to authorize them to access everything on my phone,

        When I complained everyone said “Oh, that’s just so the app can work with your photos when you scan a bar code”. When I said no, the permission required would allow the company to get into my text messages, my videos, my phone log, my contacts, etc. the answer was always the same—“They wouldn’t DO that. Just because they could doesn’t mean they would.”

        If they wouldn’t do it, then why ask for permission to do it? Naturally I refuse to use the new app. The thing is, the main reason I used Sam’s Club instead of Costco was the convenience of the Scan and Go. Without that I might as well go to the competition—and I do.

      • jdge1 May 10, 2020 / 12:17 pm

        Apparently, the tracking was done from my cell phone with the location feature set on. This “feature” was supposed to be for the purpose of allowing ME the ability to find a certain destinations using their search engine or providing me with the closest restaurant / gas station and similar places. After getting that email I changed the phone settings and several other electronic tracking situations. I also intend to start using VPN on my computer and ProtonMail which has 256 bit encryption that the providers are not even supposed to break.

      • Amazona May 10, 2020 / 12:28 pm

        Thanks so much for the information, jdge1.

  7. Cluster May 10, 2020 / 8:15 am

    Curious isn’t it that Obama chimes in now … just as it is becoming obvious he was the ring leader in weaponizing the FBI against Flynn. And Biden was right there by his side. The transcripts from the secret hearings in the basement conducted by Schiff are proving that all of these Obama acolytes and Intelligence agency heads LIED in the media for well over 2 years and the complicit media aided and abetted their plan. They manufactured a crime and threw their political rivals in prison. Think about that. And if it wasn’t for some brave Americans willing to stand up to these thugs, they would have gotten away with it.

    Now add to that their sensationalizing of a flu virus and along with their NIH deep state colleagues, successfully shut down the economy of this great country. They will stop at nothing until they are stopped and that is up to us. If this current Democrat party gains power again you can damn well be assured that the “brave new world” Spook mentioned will be a reality.

    So does anyone still think that Democrats are just our domestic political rivals? They are straight up enemy combatants.

  8. Cluster May 10, 2020 / 8:36 am

    Is the coronavirus just one huge distraction from the attempted coup and treason perpetrated by the Democrats and their colleagues in the media?

    Barack Obama and his minions don’t want any for their illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign, Democrats in Congress don’t want it for their enabling of that illegal activity, and Democrats in the media don’t want it for anything. But make no mistake, they are all the worst kinds of people, and the future of the country is dependent upon all of them being held accountable for the things they’ve done.

    They manufactured a scandal, violated the civil rights of their fellow Americans, ruined lives, and won the House of Representatives for their troubles. From there, they launched an impeachment of a duly elected president of the United States over the same scam.

    • Retired Spook May 10, 2020 / 9:24 am

      From your article:

      There’s something to be said for determination, as the old saying goes. But determination is only a virtue when it’s coupled with honesty, both in execution and objective. Unfortunately, as we’re seeing in politics these days, the most determined people happen to be those with the least amount of honesty, and they also face the least consequences for it.

      No truer words were ever spoken.

  9. Retired Spook May 10, 2020 / 9:20 am

    Jonathan Turley responds to Obama’s “concern” for the rule of law.

    “The Justice Department has dismissed cases in the past including the Stevens case,” Turley explained. “That was requested by President Obama’s own Attorney General Eric Holder for the same reason: misconduct by prosecutors. It was done before the same judge, Judge Sullivan. How is that for precedent?”

    Quite frankly, I don’t understand how this guy (Turley) is still a Democrat at this point.

    • Cluster May 10, 2020 / 9:56 am

      I don’t understand how anyone is a Democrat at this point. They weaponize every issue possible against their political opponents which is now to the point that they willingly imprison their political foes. They lie as easily as they breathe, they never apologize or admit failings, they manufacture political issues and expect everyone else to believe it, and they are delighted when America suffers. Just moments ago, the round mound of ignorance, Ali Velshi was on MSNBC talking about the economic downturn and wondering if we are entering into a “great depression”. Who describes a “depression: as great??

      Democrats and the =ir colleagues in the media are human scum and we all need to broadcast that loudly everyday and hold them accountable for the misery they have inflicted on this country. Don’t let America ever forget what they did.

      • Amazona May 10, 2020 / 10:28 am

        Actually, I have often heard of the 1930s depression as The Great Depression—“Great” in this context meaning really big.

      • Cluster May 10, 2020 / 10:55 am

        Large, expansive, and/or deep would all be much more appropriate adjectives when describing a recession or depression. Particularly when you are forecasting one and not opining about past ones.

      • Amazona May 10, 2020 / 12:30 pm

        Maybe so, but that term has been in use for almost 100 years and it isn’t likely to change.

    • Amazona May 10, 2020 / 10:26 am

      Turley is one of those people I would like to see interviewed, in a friendly but unflinching interview, about his true political philosophy. I would like to see him asked the same question I ask: Do you think the best blueprint for governing the nation is a federal government severely restricted as to size, scope and power with most authority left to the states or the people, or one with most most power consolidated in a Central Authority with little power left to the states or the people?

      He is a smart guy and he could answer this, but if he were to answer that he prefers the first then he has admitted that his identity as a Democrat is fake, it is not based on how best to govern the nation but on some emotional reason. If he were to answer that he believes the Central Authority is the better way then he could be asked why and expected to defend it.

      The thing is, he has been coming back to defending the Constitution, and that is antithetical to the agenda of the Democrat Party.

      • Cluster May 10, 2020 / 10:58 am

        I think Turley is only a Democrat when in DC social circles. He has yet to find the courage to call them out for who they really are. Just like Bush, McCain, and other squishy Republicans who lack the personal fortitude to call out evil when they see it.

  10. Cluster May 10, 2020 / 10:52 am

    Watching MSNBC is surreal anymore. There is not one bit of introspection on their actions over the last 3 years. Not one. Evelyn Farkas, a former Obama acolyte, has now admitted that she lied every time she was on MSNBC about the Russia collusion story which in turn means that Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Nadler, etc. also lied every time they were on that channel and yet there is not one mention of those untruths they promoted which tells me they were in on it. And yet today they have the audacity to question Barr’s adherence to the “rule of law”.

    In terms of viruses, Covid-19 is an amateur when compared to Democrats and the media

  11. Cluster May 10, 2020 / 11:30 am

    He is 100% correct ….

    Republican Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz said Friday that the Republican leadership did not aggressively push back against the FBI and others as they pursued their Russia collusion conspiracy against Michael Flynn and President Donald Trump.

    In a discussion over the House Intelligence Committee transcripts released this week and the Department of Justice’s recent decision to drop Flynn’s case, Gaetz told Fox News’ “Hannity” it was “a failure of our Republican leadership” to not fight back by issuing subpoenas when “corrupt officials” sought to railroad Flynn and link Trump to Russia collusion.

  12. Retired Spook May 10, 2020 / 11:45 am

    Earlier this morning on Sunday Morning Futures with Maria Bartiromo interviewing Sydney Powell, Gen. Flynn’s attorney about the framing of her client:

    Maria Bartiromo: “So you think this this goes all the way to the top — to President Obama?”

    Sydney Powell: Absolutely!

    I don’t see, at this point, how someone is not prosecuted.

    Update: If you haven’t seen this morning’s Sunday Morning Futures try to find it on a streaming service. Best hour you will ever spend — actually about 40 minutes if you can fast forward through the commercials.

  13. Retired Spook May 10, 2020 / 1:08 pm

    There have been allegations that Dr. Fauci was instrumental in facilitating grants to the Wuhan lab where COVID-19 is likely to have originated. I was surfing around this morning, trying to find information that either supports or refutes those allegations. One of the first articles to pop up was from Buzzfeed; which starts off with this hilarious statement:

    BuzzFeed News has reporters across five continents bringing you trustworthy stories about the impact of the coronavirus. (emphasis – mine)

    Further down in the article, addressing the $3.7 million in grants to the Wuhan lab, Buzzfeed says this:

    The Daily Mail, a British tabloid known for publishing unreliable stories, first reported the $3.7 million figure on April 11.

    Pot meet kettle. I honestly don’t know how you can determine who’s lying and who’s telling the truth anymore absent actual recordings or handwritten notes, as in the case of the people who framed Gen. Flynn.

    • Retired Spook May 10, 2020 / 1:14 pm

      Lots of articles about the $3.7 million in grants to the Wuhan Lab. Which ones are lies, and which ones are true?

      • Cluster May 10, 2020 / 1:28 pm

        And isn’t that part of the larger plan? Make information so confusing and contradictory that no one really knows who is reporting the truth. Just use common sense and always keep in mind human nature. “Experts” always want to be listened to and to be obeyed.

        This virus is just a bad flu season. If Hillary were POTUS, this virus wouldn’t have been an issue. And probably wouldn’t have been unleashed.

  14. jdge1 May 10, 2020 / 2:22 pm

    I’ve heard that the $3.7 million figure was the published amount some of which was done during both the Obama and Trump tenures, but the real undisclosed amount was in the BILLIONS. Haven’t been able to locate the source of the article or where the money came from, but almost assuredly from US taxpayers thru indirect means.

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