Trump vs ‘Rona Open Thread

How will Trump’s illness play out? I have no idea; less than an hour ago he was out driving around Walter Reed greeting the crowd of supporters which has been out there since he arrived…and this is in DC, which means people came from a ways away to see him…which does seem to be an enthusiasm indicator.

The Left, as usual, was nauseating about it: glad that he was sick, hoping he would die. This did not in any way surprise anyone: and I’ll just say it – they are in favor of abortion and so have no actual moral sense. You can’t be in favor of abortion and have the slightest concern for human life. The end. This is different, by the way, from someone who is just unwilling to ban abortion…but the Left isn’t like that: they believe abortion is health care and a good thing. So, they are depraved.

I’m thinking that the disgusting reaction of the Left to the President’s illness is going to play very poorly out there.

The MSM put out a poll which shows Biden up 14 – getting a huge bounce from the debate. Which is stupid: even if you didn’t like Trump’s performance, you couldn’t be at all impressed with Joe’s bumbling performance. Aside: this same MSM poll had Hillary up 14 a week later in the 2016 cycle. In fact, someone screenshotted the October polls for 2016 and only one had Trump in the lead…and most had Hillary up huge. Maybe they’re right this time, but it is to be doubted.

We’re a month away. In 30 days, all questions will be answered. Either Trump wins, or Biden does. I’m back to being very firm about a Trump victory…a guy with ‘rona heading out to greet the crowd isn’t going to lose to a guy who put a lid on the day’s activities before most of us west coast time people woke up this morning.

52 thoughts on “Trump vs ‘Rona Open Thread

  1. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 8:12 am

    Well the doctors said yesterday that Trump could be released and sent back to the White House today. That being said, MSNBC is wondering about the secession of power at this moment should Trump die. After all, the media has discovered that Trumps oxygen level dropped on Friday so they are reporting the hard news.

    The most protected man in the world got the virus but don’t worry your mask will protect you. MSNBC is in full panic mode over the POTUS having a cold. But then again, they are easily spooked and I guess you can’t blame them, Trump only had a 99.4% chance of survival. We can’t have a free and open society with just a 99.4% chance of survival, surely there is something the Democrats can do right?

    Oh and Joe Biden is up by 15 points in the national poll. So it’s just another day in the media propaganda swamp. Nothing to see here.

    • Retired Spook October 5, 2020 / 9:10 am

      Oh and Joe Biden is up by 15 points in the national poll.

      And if you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. That kind of poll number does serve two onerous purposes, though: kill the large enthusiasm gap that Trump enjoys and allow Dems to say, when Trump wins that he could only have won by cheating. They’ve got that accuse-you-opponent-of- doing-what-you’re doing-thing down to a science.

      • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 10:53 am

        There is also the opposite possible result of this kind of bogus polling—that is, to make the Dems so complacent they don’t think they have to vote because they have it in the bag, while stimulating and energizing the Right to try even harder to overcome the deficit.

        My wholly unscientific observation is that the harder the Left pushes the Trumpists, the more energized they get and the more committed they become to making sure Trump remains in the presidency.

        But the real importance of the polls is what you mention—they provide the foundation for future claims that Trump “stole” the election, because after all with Biden ahead by 15 points the only way Trump could win would be by cheating. The thing is, the biggest argument they have made so far about Trump cheating is the claim he is trying to “suppress the vote” and that is the kind of accusation it is easier to make as a claim of what might happen and harder to show that it did happen.

        Here’s what I think is going to happen: I think the Republicans are going to review and confirm the mail-in ballots, demanding that they be verified at the very least by comparing signatures, and that rulings like the one saying no ballot can be dismissed based on the signature will be challenged in court. I think the whole mail in ballot thing is going to backfire on the Dems as it might lead to massive recounts and delays that could even result in states losing their electoral votes. The Dems want to drag out the count so they can find as many votes as they need, but their problem is that they can’t drag it out past December 8, when they have to certify the votes in each state or lose their votes in the EC. For all the hootin’ and hollerin’ about not knowing who the president is till the middle of January, the only way that could happen would be if there is a tie vote in the EC, sending the choice of president to the House of Representatives. The new Reps are sworn in on January 3, while the EC has to vote on December 14—three weeks before the new House is sworn in. The ballots have to be in by the 23rd. but I think we have a pretty good idea of how the vote went before that. The EC ballots are not officially counted till January 6, which could lead to another court battle if the Dems gain a couple of state delegations and demand that the House not vote for the president until after the new House is installed on January 3. I could see an argument that the makeup of the House in the year of the election has to be the House that decides the election, but it would be a battle and I don’t think there is a precedent. There are a lot of really interesting moving parts, such as the rule that there has to be a quorum in the House for it to vote for the president and the Dems could refuse to show up, trying to block the vote. However, someone pointed out that every state that has a Dem delegation also has at least one Republican, who could show up and therefore make that state officially present, preserving the quorum.

        It does look like a chaotic resolution to the election, though a massive victory by Trump could calm it down a little. (Not calm down the rioters but just the electoral process.) If a state chooses to bind its electors, as the Supreme Court recently ruled they can, then any state carried by Trump would have to have its EC votes go to Trump. Again….a lot of moving parts.

      • Cluster October 5, 2020 / 11:10 am

        Trump will win California. Trump will win MN, OH, PA, and WI. The vote on Nov. 3 will be so overwhelming there will be no need to review mail in ballots. That’s my prediction.

      • Retired Spook October 5, 2020 / 2:48 pm

        But the real importance of the polls is what you mention—they provide the foundation for future claims that Trump “stole” the election, because after all with Biden ahead by 15 points the only way Trump could win would be by cheating.

        And our response should be, “that’s rich — Democrats complaining about us cheating.” These are the people who invented and refined cheating to an artform. These are the people who openly admit that dead Democrats are a significant voting block when they complain that purging voter rolls of people who have died disenfranchises voters. Sorry Donkeys, but there is no other way to interpret that. Neat trick, though, to cheat while at the same time making Republicans look like the bad guys for attempting to stop the cheating.

  2. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 8:15 am

    When are we going to start acting like adults?

    PIERS MORGAN: Covid-infected Trump’s outrageous joyride stunt proves he’s learned nothing about coronavirus and is shamefully prepared to risk Secret Service agents’ lives to save his electoral skin by trying to look like a tough guy

    MSNBC is acting as if everyone involved in this may die. A 74 year old over weight man suffered from a slight fever and fatigue and the media still pretends this is a pandemic.

    LET’S END THIS SHIT

    • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 11:04 am

      Morgan’s peevish snarl tells us a lot more about him that it does about Trump. He sure packed a lot of venom into a few words, didn’t he? But what he admitted was that (1) he is unaware that Secret Service agents put their lives at risk every day they pin on the badge and go to work, and that riding in a car with a mask on is just a wee tiny bit less risky than having to be ready to take a bullet to protect the president, and that (2) the only reason he, Piers Morgan, would ever do such a thing would be as an “outrageous joyride”. (Though to call a 2 MPH cruise down a crowded street surrounded by law enforcement a “joyride” also tells us Piers has never actually done anything very joyful.).

      But what struck me was the utter inability to grasp or at least acknowledge the fact that the ride was an ongoing acknowledgment and appreciation for the very special relationship Trump has with his supporters. Only a lifelong weenie who has had to try (unsuccessfully, I note) to appear strong could translate this into an effort to “look like a tough guy”. One thing we have always known about Trump is that he has not had to “try to look like a tough guy”. He has taken on the mobs in New York, the unions (note the redundancy) state and local governments, the IRS, the FBI, a crooked DOJ and the entire United States House of Representatives and never backed down, much less sniveled like Morgan and his ilk. Does this look like someone who has to TRY to “look like a tough guy”?

      https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/12/trump-tweet-meme-1.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=618&h=410&crop=1

  3. Retired Spook October 5, 2020 / 9:26 am

    I’ve been thinking about our conversation in the previous thread, and what Amazona said about this being an excellent opportunity to convert a lot of legacy Democrats to our side. Truth be told, a lot of those legacy Democrats voted for Trump in 2016, and I suspect a lot more will next month. If Trump is as successful in getting things done in his second term as he was in his first, I think we’ll see a massive political realignment the likes of which this country has never experienced by 2024.

    • dbschmidt October 5, 2020 / 9:53 am

      Read an article this morning that I found an interesting way to help those on the left possibly think about their vote.

      A Thought Experiment for Your Liberal Friends by Jeff Davidson — believe it was on Townhall.

      Also have an idea for these “reporters” that believe these masks do anything against a virus. Put one on and help me block sand the body filler on a car when I restore another one then tell me the particles which are many times bigger than a virus were stopped. Even N95 ones mostly useless. Reason I wear a respirator these days.

      • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 11:06 am

        db, I love your example about using a mask while sanding. It’s another example of how gullible people are when they have so few life experiences to fall back on.

  4. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 11:15 am

    In other news, Trump was criticized for waking up this morning.

    Re: the polls which show Biden with a 14 point lead. IF THIS WERE TRUE, the media would be celebrating Biden’s policies and how they resonate with the American people and what the first 100 days of a Biden presidency would look like. But no, they are still obsessed with Trump. That tells you everything you need to know

  5. Amazona October 5, 2020 / 11:17 am

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  7. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 11:22 am

    Good article

    What is happening at Fox? It’s simple. While Fox’s viewers and some of its opinion shows may be conservative, much of its newsroom is mentally subservient to the left. They accept the left’s narratives and moral framework of events. So, if the left says that riots are mostly peaceful and that phantom “white supremacists” are the threat, they believe it. If the left says that criticizing one of the world’s richest men for bankrolling far-left extremism is off the table, then off the table it goes.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/10/john-roberts-chris-wallace-fox-trump-derangement-syndrome/

  8. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 11:40 am

    Go WOKE. Go BROKE. Boeing is leaving Everett, WA

    Snohomish County Executive Dave Somers released a statement on Wednesday, prior to Boeing confirming reports of the move, saying that he was “deeply disappointed,” especially in the midst of job losses brought on by the ongoing pandemic.

    Tesla left CA too. Love it

    https://mynorthwest.com/2200549/boeing-787-production-move-reactions-local-leaders/

  9. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 1:31 pm

    Here are Gov. Newsome’s edicts to counties in order for them to reopen. Just FYI, it’s no longer about flattening the curve

    Equity Metric. Ensure that the test positivity rates in its most disadvantaged neighborhoods, as defined as being in the lowest quartile of the Healthy Places Index census tracts, do not significantly lag behind its overall county test positivity rate, as described in detail below.
    Targeted Investments. Submit a plan that (1) defines its disproportionately impacted populations, (2) specifies the percent of its COVID-19 cases in these populations, and (3) shows that it plans to invest Epidemiology and Laboratory Capacity for Prevention and Control of Emerging Infectious Diseases (Strategy 5: Use Laboratory Data to Enhance Investigation, Response, and Prevention) grant funds at least at that percentage to interrupt disease transmission in these populations. The targeted investments can include spending on augmenting testing, disease investigation, contact tracing, isolation/quarantine support, and education and outreach efforts for workers. Effective for the October 13th tier assignment, this plan must be submitted before a county may progress to a less restrictive tier. Due to data limitations in small populations, the equity metric described above cannot be reliably applied to smaller counties, as described below.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/gavin_newsom_beclowns_himself_finding_nonsensical_excuses_to_keep_california_locked_down.html#ixzz6a1F18x8Q

    • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 9:50 pm

      What gibberish.

  10. Cluster October 5, 2020 / 7:38 pm

    The media/Democrat/progressive cabal has never understood Donald Trump. They have never understood why he was elected, they have never understood who his base is, and they have never understood why Trump is held in such high regard amongst so many Americans.

    They don’t get it. They have pandered to so many special interests groups over the decades that they have completely lost touch with who Americans really are.

  11. Retired Spook October 5, 2020 / 9:37 pm

    I’m waiting on a couple books I’ve got on hold through the library for my Kindle, and decided to go back and read the Spencer series by Robert B. Parker. The first one, The Godwulf Manuscript, is about a rare manuscript that was stolen from a college. I ran across this passage where Spencer is talking to a black lady who is editor of the college newspaper about a radical student group that may have been involved in the theft.

    “Jesus, they’re so miserable, those kids, always so goddamn unhappy about racism and sexism and imperialism and militarism and capitalism. Man, I grew up in a tarpaper house in Fayette, Mississippi, with ten other kids. We were trying to stay alive; we didn’t have time to be that goddamn unhappy.”

    Would you be surprised to learn this was written in 1973? Not much has changed.

    • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 9:49 pm

      Spenser is one of my all-time favorite characters. His friendship with Hawk (not yet developed in the first book) would give the Libs of today the shudders as they banter about racial stereotypes in decidedly un-PC language.

      • Amazona October 5, 2020 / 10:32 pm

        If you have Amazon Prime you can stream the old TV series Spenser For Hire, my favorite of the detective shows on TV.

      • Retired Spook October 5, 2020 / 11:10 pm

        Spencer for Hire was one of our favorite detective series as well. I’m about halfway through the first book, and I’m liking the Spencer character every bit as much as I liked Robert Urich’s portrayal in the TV series.

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 10:56 am

        A little triv: Spenser was from Laramie, Wyoming and every now and then explains that his name is with an “S” and not a “C”, like the poet Spenser. I just finished one of the new versions, written by Ace Atkins (picked by Parker to continue the series) and one of the characters even referred to him as “with an S and not a C”.

      • Retired Spook October 6, 2020 / 11:01 am

        My oldest daughter has every one of the Spencer books in hard cover, and has offered to let me borrow them for as long as I can remember. Not sure why I’m just now getting around to reading them. I like Parker’s writing style and character development and descriptions.

  12. Amazona October 5, 2020 / 10:20 pm

    I’ve been waiting for someone to ask when and where, exactly, did Joe Biden teach Constitutional law for 20 years? He made that claim in the debate and no one seems to have picked up on it.

    • Cluster October 6, 2020 / 8:09 am

      Joe gave himself a new nickname yesterday … shoe leather. That’s what they use to call him because according to Joe, he use to be small and scrappy.

      MSNBC is doing everything they can to remind us that Covid is scary. Really scary. Really really scary.

      Trump just blew apart all the narratives yesterday. And Trump’s advice to not be afraid of Covid is not going over well hahahahahaha. These people are so predictable.

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 11:33 am

        I had to look up that “shoe leather” thing because it is so goofy, and found it in a transcript of a speech Biden made the day after the debate, to a bunch (I assume more than a couple, but who knows?) of union people. And his speech, while coherent, was so full of lies it was laughable.

        One feature, if you want to call it that, is his constant referrals to what he claims other people have said to him,particularly his father, who was evidently an erudite philosopher. At least he allegedly used the word “oligarch” way back when, when he allegedly advised his son “, “The only way to deal with the abuse of power, Joey, is with power. And the only people can take on major corporate interests and the oligarchs who are abusing power, the working men and women are organized labor.” Yep, that sounds just like something a used car salesman would say, explaining how to deal with those nasty old oligarchs.

        He came right out and lied, saying Trump refused to answer the question about white supremacists: “And you heard what he said last night, when he was asked by the moderator, “Will you condemn white supremacy?” And he fuddled around didn’t say anything. ” He lied when he said “A president who calls his own supporters, according to some staff members, his own supporters, disgusting. Who thinks that folks who put their lives on the line for our country in the military are losers and suckers. It’s despicable.”

        We can’t say with certainty that the claims to be citing what he has been told by his father, mother or wife are lies—they just sound bogus. Like ” Joke used to be, Biden’s like shoe leather. You can beat him, but he’s going to hurt you.” BTW, that doesn’t even make sense. I have a lot of shoe leather, and it has never hurt me. ????? But we can tell when he is actually lying and he does it a lot.

        I think he was lying when he claimed that he had taught Constitutional law for 20 years. I think he was probably lying when he told the union people ” I used to have a license to drive tractor trailers”. I know he was lying about Trump. I’d love to see him asked why he ever got a license to drive tractor trailers and if he ever did so. I’d love to see him asked where and when he taught Constitutional law for 20 years—and if he did why doesn’t he understand the 10th Amendment?

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 11:47 am

        These people are freaked out seeing a 74 year old overweight man become mildly ill with Covid, being hospitalized only briefly and that only because he is the president as his symptoms didn’t really call for it, and proving to the nation that this is not the terrifying deadly lethal fatal destructive threat to life as we know it that is the narrative the Left has been peddling.

        Changing the narrative to “Hey, sometimes you get it, you might feel kind of crappy for a while, we know what to do about it if you do, and fear of it should not govern our lives” is just too upsetting to the fearmongers and hysterics. I hope Trump makes a big point about how some people have politicized this virus to try to control people and gain power, and how damaging this has been to the country. And I really wish he would ask how many people died because of the Left and the media pushing the lie that hydroxychloroquine is dangerous, leading to it being banned, leading to it not being prescribed, leading to it not being used. I would love to see him say this valuable drug had been demonized and lied about only because he had said it might have promise, only because the Left could not stand the possibility that the president might have some good news about one way to deal with the virus.

        This is his chance to savage the Agenda Media for its propaganda regarding HCQ and to point out that it is possible thousands of people died because of it.

  13. Cluster October 6, 2020 / 8:43 am

    Has anyone noticed that EVERYONE now has a book out? Watch complicit media or even Fox and every pundit they bring on … they have a book out. Everyone is cashing in on Trump.

    Also noted today … Biden now has a 17 point lead according to MSNBC and you would think that would make them happy, right? They should all be celebrating the lead and upcoming Biden administration and all the wonderful things that will happen, etc. BUT NO … their maniacal obsession with Trump precludes any happiness.

    • dbschmidt October 6, 2020 / 9:21 am

      Just a hunch or gut feeling but based on my interactions with folks around the neighborhood. Driving around you see the Biden/Harris signs and one neighbor has a somewhat clever one that has Trumps signature hair over the word “Nope”. Even have one down the way for Bernie. Not a single Trump/Pence sign anywhere.

      Outside of those few I notice all the houses that are flying the American flag which has increased greatly over the past few months. Those, I believe, are pro-Trump voters. Everyone I interact with at the convenience store, grocery and gas station, etc. are quietly pro-Trump. If I subtract those with signs from the overall population here—it will be a Trump landslide.

      • Retired Spook October 6, 2020 / 9:30 am

        I just wish we could fast-forward 4 weeks and get it over with.

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 11:02 am

        I’m spending most of my time in Wyoming these days—between Herr Polis and his mask mandate and the fires not too far from my place in Colorado, I don’t feel like being there much. I sold part of my ranch there and the woman who bought it, who lives on part of it, says she can barely see my house from hers—-the distance of about a city block, if that.

        Anyway, in Wyoming you just don’t see Biden signs, and the Trump support is a given. But even in Colorado I don’t see many Biden signs or bumper stickers. What I do see is Trump caps instead of signs or bumper stickers, and not just the original red MAGA hats. The kids who work for me have a variety of Trump hats and T shirts and every time they go in a store or fast food place with me people compliment them for wearing them.

  14. Amazona October 6, 2020 / 1:10 pm

    What he says:

    I am more than happy to have a calm, collected, and honest conversation with those who may have views differing from mine. If I am called a racist, debate over. If I am called a sexist, I am moving on. If I am called a homophobe, I will conclude the conversation. We, as conservatives, when confronted with an accusation of this nature, should no longer attempt to defend ourselves against the unfounded and ugly accusations. We should politely and firmly tell them to f*** off. When asked if you support racism, feel free to tell them to go to hell. If they suggest you support rape, tell them to kiss your a**. If confronted with some garbage of hating people in the gay community, tell them they are a piece of sh** for suggesting so.
    …………………………
    But if you’re confronted with some toolsack calling you some -ist or -phobic because you disagree with them, feel free to just tell them to eat a bag of d***s, because nothing you’d have ever said would have ever gotten through to them anyway. The left can’t expect geniality while calling you a racist. Those ideas are incongruent. Either you’re a pleasant person, or you’re racist trash. They can’t expect love, when they sow hate. Profanity shouldn’t ever be the first action, but now’s the time for it.

    • Cluster October 6, 2020 / 2:52 pm

      We should politely and firmly tell them to f*** off.

      Agree 100% and I have. I think I told you that I severed an agent the other week because if his vileness on facebook. When the agent asked me why I severed him, I told him to f**k off, and I wasn’t polite about it.

      I have lost so much respect for so many people it’s staggering. I honestly look at all people differently now. Down the way from my office is a doctors blood lab where people go to have blood tests, etc. Well this morning there was a line out the door of about 10 people, all social distanced and all with masks on, so I thought to myself what a complete bunch of rubes. Number 1, there are nothing more than lab rats, getting their blood drawn so some doctor can identify which pill to prescribe them, and number 2, they are all adhering the medical “experts” with their masks on. These aren’t free Americans. They are subjects.

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 5:40 pm

        I have commented in the past that I wish I had just a tiny bit of talent, because I envision political cartoons. My latest is a flock of sheep, all wearing masks, being herded by snarling sheep dogs with the faces of Jared Polis, Dr. Fauci, etc.

        BTW, I kind of freak some mask wearers out when I say that if the mask mandate people were interested in keeping people from getting sick, they would mandate goggles or face shields. When I point out that the respiratory system already has built-in filtration but that eyes don’t, and that any virus landing on the mucous membranes of the eye goes directly into the bloodstream they look queasy. So after that I just repeat that if the big shots really cared about people getting sick this is what they would talk about, and mandate, and that the masks are just window dressing and to see how much crap people will put up with.

        And I am seeing more and more people stroll past the “Mask Required to Enter” signs without wearing one, and no one says anything. Even in Wyoming the big corporation stores are going through the motions of requiring masks, though the mom and pop stores don’t,. and even the big ones don’t make a big deal out of it. I’ll be in The Peoples’ Republic of Colorado tomorrow and see how stringent they are there.

  15. Amazona October 6, 2020 / 2:35 pm

    Update from a tech dinosaur: just a few non-political meanderings

    Evidently there is a rather complicated way to read Kindle books on Nook, so when I take the time to download an app and then go through the steps I should be able to read your books, Mark. It also sounds like the app will decode Audible so I can play my audio books on my Walkman. My iPod Touch is kind of falling apart—could be something to do with being dropped so often—-and I bought a Walkman before I realized it is not compatible with iTunes, which is the only format that will take Audible books. So now I have a brand new Walkman and a disintegrating iPod—seems like a good idea if I can make it work.

    FYI—-I downloaded iHeart to listen to podcasts and even when I thought I had closed the app when I was not listening it sucked up all my data and ran me into overcharges before I realized what was happening. I downloaded the app onto my computer and the same thing happened—-I am on satellite internet and within three days it sucked up 80% of my metered internet. I went ahead and upgraded my phone to unlimited data, as I do like the podcasts and can’t stand the audible clutter of nearly all PSAs and ads on the radio, but I learned the hard way that the only way to shut off the streaming from iHeart is to completely uninstall the app—unless there is some secret Shut Up! button. Even when I closed all the apps on my phone, that one kept running. I’m going to have to look for another podcast source. But I did like the ability to listen to the radio stations I like even when I am out of range and for now I have unlimited data.

    My next tech issue is to figure out why, on my phone keypad, suddenly the old comma key is a question mark. Now when I text, instead of , I get ? I think it’s just messing with me. My teenagers/tech support will be back later in the week and maybe they can get it all fixed for me.

    Gorgeous weather here, north of the smoke (my accountant in Cheyenne just called and said it is smoky there) and a great day to be outside, trying to clean up the broken branches and downed trees from the heavy wet snow of a few weeks ago. We’ll be having a heck of a bonfire once we have snow on the ground. My slash pile of tree cleanup is now about 50 feet long by 30 feet wide by 8 feet high and that is about 3% of the total. My new skid steer is getting quite a workout and will be even more efficient if my grapple bucket ever gets here. My creek flooded last year so I am also getting down in the creek bed to clear out sand bars and all the vegetation that is impeding water flow. It dries up in the summer because all the trees suck up the water before it hits the surface, so the clock is ticking as the leaves fall and the water is already starting to surface in some places. It’s all a good way to work off frustration and stress, which is really important these days. Tractors and rum, the recipe for serenity in these trying times. But not at the same time, of course.

    • Cluster October 6, 2020 / 2:54 pm

      Let me know when you try the tractors and rum at the same time

      • Amazona October 6, 2020 / 5:06 pm

        If you see a yellow tracked skid steer screaming down the middle of the interstate at 4 MPH followed by a phalanx of cop cars with flashing lights, that would be your clue that I got my sequence backwards and went with rum then tractor. Especially if there is a tree trunk stuck in the bucket.

      • Cluster October 6, 2020 / 7:44 pm

        Haha I’ll look for that

  16. Amazona October 6, 2020 / 5:56 pm

    I stumbled onto a web site I’m not familiar with, following a link to a story. The site is called “Life and Liberty” and while its subject links seem conservative the story I read said:

    Trump’s experience with the disease has been dramatically different from most Americans, who do not have access to the same kind of monitoring and care. While most must cope with their symptoms — and fear of whether they’ll take a turn for the worse — at home and alone, Trump has been staying in the presidential suite of one of the nation’s best hospitals and has been given experimental drugs not readily available to the public. He returns to the White House where there is a team of doctors on call with 24-hour monitoring.

    Well, that’s just crap. For one thing, “most Americans” don’t have symptoms at all, or if they do they are even milder than the president’s. For another, if they don’t have access to some drugs, let’s put that blame where it belongs—on the obstructive Democrats and media who have fought every single new discovery, every single new development, every single new idea, every single approach that might help those Americans. Doctors were ordered, in rather strident terms, “don’t use steroids”. Well, steroids are what help. Dexamethazone is a steroid, a very common one, used all the time to reduce inflammation. Yes, Trump got it, but it is not an “experimental drug not readily available to the public”. It is readily available, as well as cheap.

    I often ask “How many people died because of the knee-jerk objections to hydroxychloroquine?” That is another common drug, readily available, tested and safe for many decades, in use around the world, and aside from its anti-malarial aspect it is used to control inflammation due to overactive immune responses. Which, by the way, are what kill Covid patients. But the Agenda Media flooded us with headlines screaming that this drug WILL KILL YOU !! Dr. Nancy Pelosi declared it “dangerous”. Some Leftist governors banned its use in their states. Some pharmacists refused to fill prescriptions for it.

    And people died. Not because they were not allowed the “special” treatment given to the President of the United States but because they were denied access to a cheap, tested and safe, commonly available drug.

    It’s trash articles like this that are poisoning the discourse in this country.

  17. Amazona October 6, 2020 / 9:30 pm

    I love good parody, especially when it is full of inconvenient truths:

    • Amazona October 7, 2020 / 9:55 am

      This is a whole new realm for me: I don’t use Spotify and barely know what it is and I am not familiar with Joe Rogan. But this video led me to another, about how driving a Tesla lets you look rich while pretending to care about the environment. There is a lot of serious stuff at the end of the video about the real environmental costs of producing the batteries but there was a bit I had to write down.

      The red-headed guy explained that he finds Elon Musk to be “….the most inspirational person to ever walk the planet. He is like what would happen if you took the sex appeal of Steven Hawking and combined it with the innovative genius of a non-asshole Steve Jobs along with the social skills of Rain Man.”

      It made me laugh, as did the whole video, serious as the underlying message is.

  18. Cluster October 7, 2020 / 8:02 am

    This can’t be repeated enough:

    COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

    Ages 0-19: 99.997%
    Ages 20-49: 99.98%
    Ages 50-69: 99.5%
    Ages 70+: 94.6%

    And this is what the media says we have to panic over. Oh and Antifa.com still goes to Joe Biden’s website.

  19. Cluster October 7, 2020 / 8:13 am

    And this happened yesterday but the media just can’t find the time to report it:

    We learned last week that (a) Hillary Clinton approved of faking a Russia-Trump scandal to detract from her unsecured server; (b) that then–CIA director John Brennan briefed Obama and intelligence officials about the plan; and (c) that intelligence officials sent a memo to Peter Strzok tell him of Hillary’s plan. The actual documents were made available on Tuesday. They revealed that Obama knew almost from the beginning that “Russian collusion” was a hoax, while the media’s current cover-up of the newly released documents shows that the Russia hoax will live forever in their reporting.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/newly_released_documents_give_a_clearer_picture_about_the_russia_hoax.html#ixzz6aBeKiOTy

    • Amazona October 7, 2020 / 9:49 am

      And you won’t read about it, either, at least not till it becomes well known from other sources and at least some of the Agenda Media have to acknowledge it.

      I was thinking, when I read this, that this might be part of the Durham/Barr strategy—that indictments will be cast as vengeance, retribution and an effort to influence the election, but a trickle of information about the government spying on Trump, building up to the deep involvement of the White House, will have more impact and less fallout. The ideal results of this are twofold: to finally lay to rest the lies about Trump and Russia, and to tie Joe Biden himself into this illegal and unethical activity.

      I am hoping the president will make a speech in which he says that it is important to know the truth about Joe Biden’s history in politics. That he is not “going after Joe’s family” but trying, in spite of the efforts of people like Chris Wallace, to point out that anything Hunter Biden did he did with the participation of his father. That Hunter Biden on his own is just a small-time grifter, but with the power of the Vice Presidency setting him up he was able to be the front man of a massive multi-billion dollar scam–but he was just the front man for his father. When Joe shut down the Ukrainian investigation he was heading off an investigation that would have led to HIM.

      And he needs to tie the whole spying thing to Biden as well, as Joe was in the White House and had to know about it. There may well be new evidence coming out about his direct involvement in it. There has to be an explanation of why this was all so necessary—not just to protect Hillary from the consequences of her own actions but to protect Joe.

      But it would need to be a scripted speech, precise and orderly and on point, with none of the Trump riffing and stream of consciousness drifting.

      • Cluster October 7, 2020 / 10:45 am

        You’re exactly right. And more info is coming out today

      • Retired Spook October 7, 2020 / 12:26 pm

        I was thinking, when I read this, that this might be part of the Durham/Barr strategy—that indictments will be cast as vengeance, retribution and an effort to influence the election, but a trickle of information about the government spying on Trump, building up to the deep involvement of the White House, will have more impact and less fallout.

        I’m inclined to agree, although I’m still hoping that at least a dozen or so major players will spend a not small amount of time in Club Leavenworth. What they did CANNOT become business as usual in this country.

        On our local news (WOWO, 1190 AM that hosts Rush), it was reported that early voting started at 8 AM this morning at the Allen County Memorial Coliseum in Fort Wayne, and that the numbers of people were overwhelming. One guy in line that was interviewed said he’s been voting since the 70’s, and he’d never seen anything like it. I guess we won’t know for another 27 days, whether that’s good news or bad news, but I’m inclined to view it as positive. I just find it hard to swallow that hatred of Trump will bring out record numbers of voters.

  20. Cluster October 7, 2020 / 8:34 am

    So happy to read this:

    The NBA finals are showcasing three of the league’s best players – LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and Jimmy Butler are crashing and burning in the ratings in a bad sign for the NBA.

    The NBA went all-in on the politics this year and the ratings crash is shocking to most observers. It is true that all sports are down during pandemic and that may be a factor.

    But it is hard to explain away a 68% crash from last year’s game 2 finals. That makes game 2 lowest-rated finals game ever.

  21. Cluster October 7, 2020 / 8:43 am

    So lost a couple notables yesterday. Eddie Van Halen and Johnny Nash. Johnny had the first ever top 40 reggae song “I can see clearly now”, one of my favorites and I remember seeing him sing it for the first time on Wolfman Jack’s Midnight Special back in the 70’s. And Eddie was one the best rock guitarists of all time. RIP gentlemen

    • Amazona October 7, 2020 / 9:29 am

      Are they included in the Covid Death Rolls? I mean, they COULD HAVE had it…..

      • Cluster October 7, 2020 / 10:46 am

        Even the slightest hint that they may have it will alter the death count by 2. We can’t be too safe

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