Stop the Steal Open Thread

Well, Trump laid down the marker: he won and will win if all legal votes are counted. I think this is correct: to me, Trump not only won PA and AZ, he won MI and WI, as well. The sheer brazenness of the Democrat fraud here is astounding – they aren’t really trying to hide it, knowing as they do that the MSM will not show it to the Democrat base.

We’ll see how it comes out – it is an uphill climb for Trump as he has to get the fraud to stop long enough to certify the legal votes. This may go on for a while. Keep in mind as it goes on that you’re going to hear MSM reports and rumors – each and every one of them is a lie designed to get you to give up and then put pressure on Trump to quit. I’m sure they’ll have polls out soon showing that eleventy bazillion percent favor Trump conceding. I hope Trump wins – and some people think he will. I think the psychological turning point would be Arizona going for Trump. Right now, he’s behind there but he’s doing better than expected in the count and plenty are saying he should come out ahead there. The good news is that we’re having an honest count in Arizona – because, you know, it is run by Republicans.

Do now be swayed by network calls: nothing is for sure until the vote is certified. The calls of AZ for Biden and the House +5 for Democrats show how ridiculously the MSM is lying about things.

And that brings me to The Rest of the Story:

Tuesday was catastrophically bad for the Democrats. They failed in the Senate. They’ve already lost a net of ten House seats (so much for that D+5 call, huh?); they may end up with a majority of 219 or 220. There’s even a slight chance the GOP winds up with 218! And it is slight: don’t get your hopes up on that…but wouldn’t it be the most awesome thing in the world to take away Nancy’s gavel? Again! Democrats also got blown out in governorships and State legislative races: and this means the GOP has a huge advantage in the redistricting to take place next year…and we’ve got a 6-3 Supreme Court majority to ensure against Democrat court challenges. CA and NY are going to lose House seats next year – FL and TX will gain. Maybe 3 each! And we’re going to draw some nice, little districts to ensure they all go our way.

If the Democrats do manage to install Biden – whom I will never accept as the legitimate President – then we look forward to a crushing mid-term victory in 2022.

We’re watching to see who is in the fight – and one that I mark for the future is Richard Grenell. He’s been in this fight from the beginning. He doesn’t back down. He punches back twice as hard. And this Conservative Catholic may find himself gladly voting for the gay guy in 2024.

79 thoughts on “Stop the Steal Open Thread

  1. Cluster November 6, 2020 / 8:20 am

    On to the Supreme Court resulting in a Trump victory and then indictments, prosecutions and jail times for those who have blatantly violated federal election laws and there are plenty of those people. Then there will be a special counsel to investigate Joe’s relationship with Ukraine/China/Hunter. Then we go back thru all the video of this summer using facial recognition to identify, indict, prosecute and imprison Antifa and BLM. That will be a good start.

    If Joe is installed, it will be open season and onto civil war. That will happen because this entire chaotic process is rife with fraud and there’s just too many good ol boys looking to have some fun especially after what the soi bois did this summer.

    Honestly, I think it is time for war because the Democrats are a marxist party, let’s not kid ourselves. Joe is a complete fucking idiot and the rest of the party sold out to the Left and China a long time ago so I apologize to those who find this opinion offensive but Democrats have already started the war ….. we just need to finish it.

  2. Cluster November 6, 2020 / 8:43 am

    Pray to God this happens …

    Throughout this election, there were signs of the birth of a coalition of normal people unhappy with the radical turns our country has been taking. Regardless of how the presidential race turns out, the potential political realignment is unmistakable. Hispanic and blue-collar workers are shifting noticeably away from the overtures of the left-wing, “defund the police” crowd. I’m not sure who thought violence and looting in the streets of so many of our cities would have no political repercussions, but it did, and it brought regular Americans together in a way that bodes well for the future.

    We so desperately need more normal people in this country. Progressive Democrats are insufferably weird, stupid, and over emotional people. Their uncontrolled anxieties over manufactured issues like climate change and systemic racism have divided this country and their false sense of moral superiority has made them into bitter angry little people who no one wants to be around. And if Joe is installed, they could very well find out just how much disdain we have for them …. and how much ammo we have

  3. Cluster November 6, 2020 / 9:01 am

    Fox has still not retracted the AZ call and oddly enough is the only network to have made that call. Time to boycott Fox … turn it OFF and let’s tank their ratings. They deserve it

    Oh and Chris Stirewalt did not kill himself lol

    • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 6:16 pm

      Color me dense, but I’m missing the joke about Chris Stirewalt. What did he do or say?

  4. jake goldblum (@Jakegoldblum) November 6, 2020 / 9:06 am

    i am not here to spark more whatever is going through your mind. Honestly- i believe at this point United States should break up with the northeast, being one country, with the west coast being another because our values are so much different. If you think Biden is a marxist you are nuts. he is as middle road as you can get. I have more evidence Trump is a horrible politician attacking MCcain that cost him Arizona, attacking doctors, and being utterly corrupt.

    Please define normal people? You can have your guns and low taxes but these trade wars, and total disregard for the virus is not normal. Here is stat for you that deaths in general are up 300,000 dollars by the cdc- this is not the corona virus- this is total deaths

    • Cluster November 6, 2020 / 9:12 am

      I no longer have conversations with fucks like you. People like you will either sit down and shut the fuck up or we will go to war. Those are the only two options for me and for a lot of other people.

      • fieldingclaymore November 6, 2020 / 11:30 am

        I need a cup for all your MAGA tears. LOL

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 9:27 am

      If you think Biden is a marxist you are nuts

      No, not “nuts”, just giving Joe credit for having the mental facility to be much of anything but a doddering meat puppet. It’s those pulling the strings who are the Marxists.

      Yes, Trump did attack McCain, and yes, it was stupid. Not because McCain wasn’t a horrible person, and a liar and a backstabber and a weasel, just because there was no reason to. Trump did not “attack doctors” and the whining about how “corrupt” Trump is never seems to be backed up with anything other than some references to decades-old business dealings that give the TDSers the vapors.

      Joe Biden is corrupt to the bone. We have seen the proof, and it is financial, political and moral corruption. Trump got rich and then went into politics. Biden was poor and only got rich when he had the status and power of politics to allow him to abuse that power to enrich himself and his family. As for moral corruption, while adultery in the midst of a mid-life crisis is not excusable, it pales in the face of the many videos of Biden fondling little girls, and his dismissal of his son’s criminal and immoral sexual escapades with Biden’s own granddaughter when he told her mother, who went to Biden for help with this, that it was the mother who needed to go into therapy.

      • Cluster November 6, 2020 / 9:32 am

        Joe Biden is a corrupt pedophile, will never be a legitimate President, and he will be treated as such if installed. In fact, if that happens many Democrats and certainly Antifa and BLM members will not be entirely safe walking around in the open this country

      • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 9:51 am

        Yeah, yeah, yeah–Cluster and his band of vigilantes are going to be picking off Dems in the street because indignant rage. Sorry, but I’m not seeing Cluster playing HIgh Noon with Antifa, in spite of his macho gunslinging vigilante fantasies.

        “I can kill people if I don’t like what they stand for”—not exactly the sentiment upon which this nation, or conservatism, are founded.

      • Cluster November 6, 2020 / 9:57 am

        They need to feel the pain of what they have put this country through. I am not alone in that sentiment. And it’s not bravado. It’s a promise.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 9:42 am

      Evidently we are supposed to be shocked and horrified that “deaths in general are up 300,000 dollars “. Sounds like you are channeling Biden here.

      You guys are so funny, crawling out of the cracks now that you think Biden’s dark and miserable days are ahead of us. But really, guys, you just sound goofy, and illustrate what we have been saying about you for years now.

      1….you are not very smart. It’s not just that you align yourself with a political structure that has never succeeded anywhere it has been tried, but only led to tyranny, economic misery and often to tens of millions of deaths, it’s that you don’t even realize what that political system IS or how it is defined. You are just led around by your gullibility, which is based on your emotionality.

      2….your dependence on Magical Thinking forms the foundation of your belief system. When it is pointed out that your system can’t ever work because it goes against human nature you employ Magical Thinking and just say “this time it will be different”. Lately we are seeing this Magical Thinking in play as you engage in seriously strange commentary like complaining that Trump “disregards the virus”, which doesn’t make sense but ties in with the belief that somehow Trump would have been able to “defeat” the virus if he had only….not been Trump. We see it in play in the conviction that if we just outsmart the virus by wearing masks and hiding under our beds for three weeks/three months/six months/a year it will get tired of waiting for us and just give up and go away. (Because that is what viruses do, evidently.)

      And now you are whining because people just keep dying. Not just from the virus, but because people die. I guess if Biden had been president this would not have been happening. Biden or just Not Trump. Maybe Biden’s dead son, the non-Senator from a state where he never lived, would still be with us. Who knows?

      • Jake Goldblum November 6, 2020 / 10:02 am

        Amazona you pathetic for blocking me

        you love to rant and I have proven in the past that your arguments are more diatribes than actual facts. That is the fact about you. YOu ranting does not prove facts. I do not believe in socialism and neither does Biden and i would vote Don JR over AOC any day of the week. At least i have principles that i believe in and not some long rant that believes the constitution is everything when society evolves. When Joe talked about stopping fracking a normal person knows electric cars and solar are the future. Cars that drive themselves are hte future and it will put a ton of people out of work. Telling coal miners and people that their job is safe is dumb. You read stuff that gives you an absolute warped view of society. I am pretty middle of the road and a business man.

      • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 10:15 am

        At least i have principles that i believe in

        Such as what, as it pertains to the role of government?

      • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 6:38 pm

        Jake, I have no idea what you are talking about. You must have been talking to the people who were given confidential personal information by someone trying to buy cred from the Dark Side who now think I am the boss of everyone.

      • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 7:38 pm

        Jake, I have not blocked anyone. I don’t know that anything of yours HAS been blocked. I don’t see a reason to block what I have seen, as it seems like harmless blathering.

        Sorry my posts make you so fretful because words.

        At least i have principles that i believe in and not some long rant that believes the constitution is everything when society evolves.

        Are you trying to say that when “society evolves” the Constitution should also “evolve”? Is that like being a “living document”?

        a normal person knows electric cars and solar are the future

        Do these “normal persons” also know how to mitigate the horrendous environmental damage necessary to get the materials necessary to make all these solar panels? Because they not only don’t know now, they don’t seem to care, because talking about the real cost of solar power generation requires too much straying from the narrative, and it’s so much easier to just think of electricity to power cars as something free and clean that just….arrives.

        (In the interest of full disclosure I recently did a massive solar installation costing more than a quarter of a million dollars. I believe it has its place. I just don’t buy into the Magical Thinking that it can, or should replace fossil fuels.)

        I also don’t have a crystal ball that tells me Joe Biden has beliefs that contradict what he says.

  5. Amazona November 6, 2020 / 9:17 am

    Ah, yes, the GOP set up a path to fraud and having the election stolen so they could have a reason to say the election was stolen due to fraud.

    Wily critters, ain’t they? But then along comes a mental giant like the crewman and blows the whole plot wide open.

    Yes, the legal votes are being counted—along with who knows how many illegal votes.
    BTW, the Agenda Media can “call” the election all they want. They don’t matter, except of course to the braindead lemmings who will go to their graves believing what they have been told by the same media that have been driving the Biden bus all along. What matters is the final, certified vote in each state.

  6. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 10:12 am

    Several of us observed in the last couple weeks that, in the unlikely event of a Harris/Biden win, life would go on, just as it did during the 8 year nightmare of Obama/Biden. Interesting how Biden’s name keeps coming up second. I’m not closing the book on a Trump second term quite yet, because as Yogi Berra famously said, “it ain’t over till it’s over.” But should it be “over” at some point, unlike when we stood by just counting the days till Obama was gone, I intend to be part of the new resistance to a Harris/Biden presidency – a resistance that will makes the Schiff Show seem like a walk in the park.

    Someone, it may have been Glenn Beck, predicted this week that if Trump were to lose he would start a new Conservative TV network that would be his greatest counterpunch of all and the Left’s worst nightmare. It would also fulfill Amazona’s dream for how Conservatives begin to re-take this country.

    It’s funny — if you had told me two weeks ago that Trump would get over 7 million more votes than in 2016, that Republicans would hold the Senate and reduce the Democrat majority in the House to a handful of seats, I would have said then you’re talking about a Trump landslide of epic proportions.

    • Jake Goldblum November 6, 2020 / 10:40 am

      Yes what America needs more of is more propaganda networks. I agree with him on China but i voted in PA. They made the ballots extremely hard to forge. It was not voting machines but black markers filling in the box. I had to give my license and address to verify. Than it went into a scanner. Trump fought mail in ballots in pa, Biden did not. Most my family voted by mail but i didnt trust Trump not to throw out the ballots. The bottom line is this is what we predicted and it was not fraudulent election. If you want to have an honest discussion with someone who can get to the point quickly unlike AMazona who can’t complete a thought without 4 sentences let me know.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 8:24 pm

      Spook, I have a feeling a few on the Left will be remembering the movie quotation of Isoroku Yamamoto when the Japanese were celebrating their great victory at Pearl Harbor:

      I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

  7. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 1:38 pm

    He’s not providing a link or source, but Rush is reporting that Biden received fewer votes than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in every state except Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia. YCMTSU!

    • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 2:39 pm

      Rush will post the transcript of the show. He’ll either apologize for being wrong or he’ll post a link.

  8. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 6:20 pm

    I don’t agree with gerrymandering, but if the situation were reversed as Democrats thought it would be, they would be redrawing the districts to benefit their electoral chances.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 8:05 pm

      This is the kind of rhetoric the Dems will deny truly represents the party—(emphasis mine)

      Kristopher Jacks, a member of the executive committee of the Colorado Democratic Party, was filmed in an undercover sting operation admitting that the 2020 election amounts to a “revolution.”

      In the video, Jacks says lying, cheating, and stealing are all considered “morally acceptable” actions if they help Democrat nominee Joe Biden defeat Trump.

      “I am going to do everything ‘morally acceptable’ to win,” Jacks says on camera.

      “I will lie. I will cheat. I will steal. Because that’s ‘morally acceptable’ in this political environment. Absolutely. We are pirates on a pirate ship,” he goes on.

      “I want to make this point very loudly and very clearly.”

      “I said it nicely before, but I’ll say it more curtly now: 2020 is a political revolution.” reports: Project Veritas founder and CEO James O’Keefe said his investigative organization has been following Jacks for a long time, meeting him initially during the presidential primary race.

      Jacks insisted to an undercover Project Veritas journalist that violence by the left can be justified.

      “I think the right wing has a monopoly right now on strong, violent rhetoric, and I think they underestimate how many people on the left are organized, trained, armed, and ready to go should they decide to do their s***,” he said. “And I think all it will take is our numbers and a reminder that yeah, there’s a reason you guys feared the communists more than you feared the Nazis.”

      The left has an army, he said.

      “We’re gonna show up in numbers. We’re gonna show up en mass. (sic) ” ——-

      but they will take a comment about redistricting and try to use it to claim this is an actual plan or agenda.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:12 pm

      You mean like babbling about “those german (sic) camps”?

      You seem to think you have the authority to issue demands that people snap to and answer your silly quibbling questions. That’s because you like to bicker, and your whole schtick is to try to draw people into inane back-and-forths that serve only for you to illustrate your personality disorders.

      I made a valid and relevant point—-you people take one comment out of context and then act like it is an actual policy, and then when I suggest that you get the vapors when we take a detailed statement as an accurate reflection of Democrat policy you try to change the subject.

  9. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 6:24 pm

    And what was the response? A bunch of posts advocating for armed insurrection. A bunch of posts arguing that the will of the American people be subverted by force.

    You can correct me if I’m wrong, but I think that was just Rambo Cluster. I DID say I would be part of the new resistance, but I’m not advocating anything that Democrats haven’t been doing for the last 4 years.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 7:42 pm

      VIRTUALLY NO PUSHBACK? Come on, man! I pushed back against Rambo Cluster so vigorously is is impossible for anyone to have missed it.

      That is, unless you skip my posts because words.

      BTW, you might not try to work that fake “will of the American people” fantasy too hard, if you are trying to link it to the massive subversion of the electoral process we are seeing unfolding.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 9:58 pm

      I still missed the part about “..openly advocat(ing) for taking over the United States via armed insurrection. ..”

      I just saw a desire to kick ass because of some desire to give some of their own back to the bastids.

      I have gone head to head with Cluster many times over the years, but I have never had even a hint that he would advocate “taking over the United States via armed insurrection. ” He feels he has been pushed to the limit or maybe over it by the sheer viciousness, nastiness and violence of the Left, to the point where he would like to dish a lot of this back at them–but take over the government? If it’s there I missed it.

      Regarding your effort to establish some kind of ratio of Marxist-like tendencies among conservatives (that is, advocating the violent overthrow of governments) you ask Would you say that one in three is about the average for conservatives generally? One in ten? One in twenty? What do you think? I’d say zero in a thousand.

      You see, you don’t even know what a “conservative” IS. You are projecting the emotion-based issue-oriented appeal of the Left to a certain mentality with the objective political commitment that marks a true conservative. And you are projecting the true Marxism of your political alignment onto the conservative movement, which doesn’t make any sense at all.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:00 pm

      armed militia types trying to intimidate ballot counters.

      Where? When? What kind of arms? What kind of “intimidation”? Are all armed people considered “militia types”? What, exactly, IS a “militia type”?

  10. Amazona November 6, 2020 / 6:34 pm

    You’re still not making sense. I think it’s the inability to get over that huge pile of crap you have created.

    But speak up, son. Tell us which Republican states insisted on mail-only ballots, which did not require ballots to be postmarked by the end of Election Day and which don’t even match signatures or even ask for them.

    Republicans have been objecting to the insane policy of just sending out ballots, willy-nilly, to everyone on registration rolls, without even bothering to find out if these purported recipients still lived at those addresses, or were even still alive. Republicans have been pointing out all along the sheer stupidity of sending out millions of ballots to people who did not request them and might not even know they were coming.

    We had to play the cards we were dealt by the conniving cheating Dems, and it has turned out exactly the way they wanted it to, with one exception—-they got caught. I’d say they knew all along they would probably lose, and just wanted to set up a system to let them pretend the loss was not legitimate.

  11. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 6:39 pm

    Anyone find a website that lists the status of all 435 House races? I’ve searched 6 ways from Sunday and can’t find a comprehensive listing. Real Clear Politics is showing 209 Dem. to 182 GOP, which is clearly from a couple days ago. Politico shows the Dems with 212 and GOP with 194, meaning there are still 29 House races still not called 3 days after the election. There are usually a few, but I can’t recall there ever being this many. My guess is that it means the GOP is doing much better than expected.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 7:50 pm

      I’m curious about the ratio of Republican vs Democrat states in the House. Before this election the Republicans had a majority of the states. I did an in depth analysis of how they were divided though most of you probably didn’t read it because words, and the links were about facts.

      Spook, you are good at digging old posts out of archives. Do you have any idea where I could find this? One of my links might tell me where to go to find updated information.

      Why might this matter? Because if for any reason a president cannot be named the new president will be chosen by the House of Representatives—-but not by the entire House. Rather, each state in the House will have one vote, and before this election more states had more Republican Representatives than those that had more Democrats.

      • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 8:56 pm

        I’m not exactly sure what you’re looking for. Prior to this election the GOP held one more state legislature than the Democrats. I read yesterday that the GOP picked up a net 2 more state legislatures on Tuesday. You are correct that, if the selection of the President is thrown into the House of Representatives, each state has one vote, which is determined by which party controls the legislature in each state.

      • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:18 pm

        Spook, my understanding is that, as one example, if a state has 6 Representatives in Congress and of those six four are Republicans and two are Democrats then the Republicans would control the single House vote if the selection of a president came to such a vote.

        I remember a breakdown a few months ago of how this worked out in the last House, and at that time if a vote had been taken there were a few more votes controlled by Republicans than by Democrats.

        If I misunderstand the process I’d like to know how it really works. But clearly, if each state has only one vote there has to be a way to determine either which of the Representatives of each state can cast that vote or how the state would allocate that vote.

      • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 11:02 pm

        if each state has only one vote there has to be a way to determine either which of the Representatives of each state can cast that vote or how the state would allocate that vote.

        There is, but it has nothing to do with the number of Congressmen from each party from each state. It’s determined by which party controls the state legislature in each state.

      • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 1:46 am

        Thanks for that. I found the original account very confusing. Do you know what that ratio of R to D is, in state legislatures?

      • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 2:12 am

        This, and similar statements, are what led me to think the state delegations were based on the number of people from each party in each state,

        The GOP held a decided 32-17 edge in control of these state congressional delegations prior to the 2018 midterms. With Democratic gains in that election, the Republican edge narrowed to 26-22. In 2019, Michigan Republican Justin Amash became an independent, breaking that state’s tie. As a result the current split is 26-23, with one tie (Pennsylvania).

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:36 pm

      I heard that a young Republican challenger I supported in Colorado won her Congressional race but if I remember correctly she had primaried the incumbent Republican so did not flip the seat.

  12. Amazona November 6, 2020 / 7:28 pm

    crewman, is this what you are talking about?

    what if he’s been playing the long game on the issue of voter fraud all along by setting a trap to expose massive Democrat voter fraud in multiple states as a conspiracy/RICO crime with an objective of changing the US voting system to remove any possibility of fraud/corruption?

  13. Amazona November 6, 2020 / 7:59 pm

    A bunch of posts arguing that the will of the American people be subverted by force.

    Actually, there were no such posts. There were several overheated posts by Cluster reflecting his personal and individual belief that the Right should engage in the same thuggery as the Left has been doing, but I don’t remember any of his macho gunslinger fantasies having anything to do with subverting the will of the American people by force.

    And you might do a little research into the real definition of fascism. It is and always has been a hard-core Leftist political structure, based on a collectivist concept and a massively powerful Central Authority. It, like socialism and communism, is on the general spectrum of political philosophy to the left of the limited-federal-government state-sovereignty model of the Right.

    The violence exhibited by fascists is not unique to fascism—much more violence, mayhem and murder have been created by socialism and communism. But any left-wing political model has some degree of tyranny at its core, which is often exhibited in violent efforts to impose this belief system on others.

    The Republican party literally couldn’t even come up with a platform this year.

    Again, you need to do a little research and find out what “literally” really means. And again, you illustrate your odd inability to process information. The GOP did have a platform, a coherent outline of its goals and agendas and policies going forward. The Dems, on the other hand, were stuck with the New Green Deal and We Ain’t Trump.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:04 pm

      No, what they “literally” did was decide that they liked the 2016 platform so much they didn’t want to change it. You see, when you decide not to change or amend something you are saying you are going to keep it the way it is. And that means it continues to exist, in the same form as it has had. It doesn’t go away. It doesn’t vanish, dissolve or cease to exist. It just stays the same.


    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:06 pm

      travesty, what are you babbling about now about “those german (sic) camps”?

    • Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 11:18 pm

      No, what they “literally” did was decide that they liked the 2016 platform so much they didn’t want to change it.

      That’s sort of like complaining that you’re new TV didn’t come with an owner’s manual because the manual that came with it was dated 2019.

  14. Retired Spook November 6, 2020 / 8:31 pm

    I heard one of the talking heads on FNC saying tonight that there is NO EVIDENCE of cheating on the part of Democrats, and the Trump lawyers are just wasting time and money going to court. I’m genuinely curious — does anyone here believe the Trump legal challenges will consist of, “hey judge – we think the Democrats cheated?” My bet is that they have lots of evidence.

    • Amazona November 6, 2020 / 10:33 pm

      Spook, I heard several people on radio talk shows talking about their personal witnessing of election fraud. Most had already agreed to sign sworn affidavits, and at least one went on to be interviewed by the FBI. Tip lines were swamped with callers and texts describing, in detail, fraudulent and illegal activity.

      One man worked at a post office in Michigan and said that his boss called everyone together the morning of the 4th and instructed them to sort out all ballots from all collection sites that had not been in time to be postmarked on Election Day, and to put them all in a hamper. He then instructed them to hand-stamp these late ballots with the date of November 3 and put them in an express box to be delivered as if they had come in on time.

      One poll watcher, who was kept too far from the counting tables to see much detail, did notice a whole batch of ballot envelopes sealed with clear packing tape. I could see one such envelope—you realize you forgot to vote for one of the candidates or something, open the envelope and then reseal it. A whole batch of envelopes sealed the same way is pretty suspicious.

      As an example of the verbal tap dancing around the topic, the other night a man on one of the network news shows addressed what he called inaccurate statements about Republican poll watchers not being allowed to view ballot counting in Philadelphia. He indignantly “rebutted” this by saying that “a Republican activist has admitted to being in the building”. Aside from the editorializing by referring to the poll watcher as an “activist” the descriptions and photos of the counting room in Philadelphia showed a massive room at the convention center (one person said it was as big as a football field) crammed with hundreds of desks in long rows, some hidden by screens. What poll watchers were allowed in the building were kept 10 to 25 feet away, and then allowed as close as 6 feet, TO THE FIRST ROW OF TABLES. There were dozens of rows of tables, many tables to a row, all the way back to the back of this cavernous room. But being in the building was supposed to prove that these poll watchers had reasonable access to watching votes being counted, and were just lying.

      They couldn’t even see if ballots were being removed from envelopes

      • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 5:09 pm

        First person observation is not anecdotal, it is testimony. A first-person account of poll watching in Pennsylvania: emphasis mine

        I see the canvas location. And then there are cameras in an entirely different section of the warehouse, pointed at where the canvas workers are working, but they are bad cameras. They’re not very good.

        And there’s only a few of them and they are placed so far away that you can see the people who are counting the ballots, but you can’t see the ballots they’re counting, which is the whole purpose of having a canvas watcher. The canvas watcher is not there to watch people. He’s there to watch the ballots.

        The reason it’s important is because the Pennsylvania law for absentee and mail-in ballots states very clearly that no mail-in ballot is valid where the outer envelope is noncertified by the elector, or as I say, the voter.

        And if there is no secrecy ballot—that is to say, no secrecy envelope containing a ballot inside of the outer certifying envelope—it is not a valid ballot. It is called a naked ballot, and it should be put aside immediately.

        And if the secrecy ballot inside of the outer certification ballot has any markings, which tend to identify the elector or his political preferences or in any way attempts to communicate to the person who’s looking at the secrecy ballot the preferences or desires of the elector, those are also immediately disqualified. They’re not valid votes and they should be put aside.

        Now, as you can imagine, you need to be able to actually see the ballot for that to work. You have to see the certification. You have to see the signature. You have to see the date and the address. You have to see that there are no markings on the secrecy ballot, and you have to make sure there’s a secrecy ballot.

        None of which you can do if there’s a camera put up 20 feet away from where the people are opening the ballots and you are put in another room inside of the canvas location, away from the canvassers, and given a couple of television screens with teeny-tiny pictures of these guys counting votes.

        When asked, this guy I know, another attorney there, David, he asked—I think it was David, it may have been Kathy—asked, “Well, all of this seems odd. It seems like we can’t really observe the ballots. So there’s really no point in being here, right?”

        And he goes, “Yeah, that’s the point.” He literally admitted that the whole purpose was to keep us from watching the people counting the ballots.

  15. jdge1 November 6, 2020 / 10:52 pm

    ”… the will of the American people be subverted by force.”

    There is AMPLE EVIDENCE of election fraud of numerous types. Each day since Nov. 3rd additional evidence of fraud comes forth. Only a fool or a liar would suggest or argue otherwise. And as a result, the TRUE will of the American people is being subverted. Perhaps you should consider who is REALLY doing the subversion. We already know the answer. Question is, are you a fool or liar?

    • jdge1 November 7, 2020 / 8:56 pm

      ”The problem is that you all never provide the ample evidence.”

      Not my problem. I have no intention of citing the research work for you. Feel free to look it up yourself, that is if you’re really interested in knowing the truth. My guess is you won’t and continue to suggest the fraud isn’t there. That doesn’t bother me none as President Trump’s legal teams are still gathering the evidence, following the required process and preparing for court hearings. I make the claim because of the evidence that has been cited and documented from a variety of reliable sources. That’s not to say all of the fraud has been put before the courts yet or even that what has been brought before the courts has been ruled on. My guess is this will go on for another 1-2 weeks maybe more, before we will have seen the evidence brought forth and ruled on. And, from my understanding, in many cases much of the fraud has tainted the legitimate votes to the extent that the it is impossible to separate the illegitimate votes, thereby rendering a winner by ballot count unobtainable. This will likely be what the courts will have to make the determination on, based on current laws.

  16. Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 11:52 am

    If you ask most informed Progressives (yeah I know, kind of an oxymoron) what Supreme Court decision they more abhor, a lot of them will say Citizens United. Apparently, while publicly condemning Citizens United, many uber-wealthy Progressive secretly love it. But the neat thing about Citizens United is not that it allows obscene amounts of money to be spent in politics, but that it doesn’t censor the actual speech aspect of politics. So you can spend a bazillion dollars supporting a candidate, but you can’t make people vote for him or her if they view the opposing candidate as a better choice. Never was that more evident than in this election cycle where billionaires spent $105 million to defeat Lindsey Graham — AND LOST; where they spent $75 million to defeat Mitch McConnell — AND LOST; where they spent $43 million to defeat Joni Ernst — AND LOST. I realize a few million, even $50 or $100 million is chump change to someone like Michael Bloomberg, but it’s refreshing to know that ideas and truth still count more than money.

    • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 2:54 pm

      The main objection to Citizens United is the repeated mantra fed by the masters in the Left that it says “corporations are people”.

      These masters have proved, over and over again, that if they carve out a simple-minded phrase and feed it to their lemmings often enough it will take root—proving once again that compost is a great medium for growing weeds.

  17. Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 12:56 pm

    It must be in one of those emanations from the penumbra in the Constitution that says an obscure cable news channel gets to award the presidency.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 1:44 pm

      Nice try indeed.

      On Saturday morning, CNN called the race in Pennsylvania and stated that according to their projection, Democrat Joe Biden has been elected to serve as the 46th president of the United States, defeating incumbent Republican Donald Trump.

      CNN made the announcement both on air and online, followed quickly by Fox News, the AP, and many other press outlets. All reported that Joe Biden and running mate Kamala Harris have defeated Donald Trump and vice president Mike Pence. (emphasis – mine)

    • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 2:50 pm

      The Agenda Media will win either way. They will have accurately predicted the final outcome, really known only after the states certify their votes which can only come after the results of the litigation are factored in, or they will have effectively poisoned the well in the feeble minds of their rabid base which will spend the rest of their miserable lives complaining that the election was stolen by Trump.

      There are still insane people complaining that the Barret SCOTUS seat was “stolen” or at least “illegitimate”.

      It seems like the primary job of a large amount of the Dem base, including its online trolls, is to prove the adage that “You can’t fix stupid”.

    • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 3:00 pm

      LOL. Gotta love those emanations.

  18. Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 2:40 pm

    Has everyone seen the massive riots and burning and looting by Trump supporters in cities across the country? Yeah, neither have I.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 3:49 pm

      I have a strong level of confidence that it will age well, given that Democrats have owned violence as a political tactic for over half a century.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 7:33 pm

      It’s “probably” not a Stalin Quote. Even Snopes says Stalin “almost” certainly didn’t say it. Some variation of the quote has been uttered by a number of famous historical figures, and the fact that it may or may not have been uttered by Joseph Stalin doesn’t make it any the less true.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 9:23 pm

      Fine — attribute it to me. I agree with the statement.

  19. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 5:49 pm

    James O’Keefe published a recorded interview with a whistleblower from the United States Postal Service in Detroit who stated that a supervisor told Post Office workers on Wednesday to gather together any “mail-in” ballots in their facility and segregate them from other mail. Those ballots were then hand-stamped with a postmark from the previous day to reflect that they had been sent on to election officials on November 3. The ballots were then shipped to their destination using the “Express Mail” process which meant they would be delivered to election officials on November 4.

    The FBI is investigating allegations of election fraud in Detroit after a city worker stepped forward and claimed election workers were asked to backdate ballots that had come in after the election deadline had passed, multiple officials said.

    A senior law enforcement official in Washington confirmed that an investigation was opened after the whistleblower’s concerns were forwarded from the Michigan Republican Party. “The FBI is investigating,” the official said.

    GOP officials in Michigan said the whistleblower was identified and assisted by Phill Kline, the head of the Thomas More Society’s Amistad Project, which has been litigating voting disputes and irregularities across the country for months.

    Here we have to remember the shrill and strident howling of the Left that all whistleblowers are legally guaranteed anonymity, but what they say has to be given full credibility and acceptance no matter what.

    Attorney General Ken Paxton today announced that his Election Fraud Unit assisted the Limestone County Sheriff and District Attorney in charging Kelly Reagan Brunner, a social worker in the Mexia State Supported Living Center (SSLC), with 134 felony counts of purportedly acting as an agent and of election fraud. State Supported Living Centers serve people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Brunner submitted voter registration applications for 67 residents without their signature or effective consent, while purporting to act as their agent.

  20. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 6:33 pm

    Naturally we are talking about the election. The topics range from the depth of either delusion or simply dishonesty as Lefties passionately squeal THERE IS NO WAY THERE WAS ELECTION FRAUD !!!!!!!, in the face of overwhelming and mounting evidence of election fraud to the blatant election interference of the Agenda Media. The latter is of most concern—how can we ever have a fair election when those in charge of either delivering information to the public or controlling what others try to deliver to the public are so overwhelmingly committed to using that power to control what information is out there?

    And the answer is, we can’t. While some people vote based on what they believe and some on what they know, sometimes the two intersect. The thing is, what people know has to be based on information.

    How many people in this nation knew that a laptop belonging to Joe Biden’s son was discovered, examined by the FBI and confirmed to be his, and that it contained emails showing that Joe Biden himself was complicit in—and more importantly profiting from—his son’s business dealings in foreign countries? How many of them knew these business dealings were set up through Joe Biden’s vast power and influence as Vice President of the United States? How many of them knew that in this laptop was abundant evidence that Hunter Biden was involved in child pornography, including pictures of him and his 14-year-old niece (Joe Biden’s granddaughter) in sexually provocative poses, many with her topless, or that when her mother (the sainted Beau’s widow) turned to Joe for help with his son’s predation on her young daughter Joe’s only response was to tell HER to “go into therapy”? How many had the kind and level of information to assume this was because Joe Biden himself had a documented history of molesting young girls, which certainly would explain what amounted to defense of his son doing the same thing?

    How many people in this nation knew that the man interviewed and hired to be the CEO of a Biden family business gave a detailed TV interview in which he stated, unequivocally, that he had personally met with Joe Biden to talk about this and other Biden ventures, that Joe Biden had simply lied when he said he never talked to his son about his business dealings, and that when this man asked Jim Biden how the family could get away with their legal shenanigans the response was “plausible deniability”?

    All of this is information. It is not gossip, it is not “unsubstantiated”, it is not speculation. It is proven fact. What effect did it have on the election to have all of this covered up by the Agenda Media? What impact did this kind of protection of Biden have on the election?

    So…back to my question: How can we ever have a fair election when those in charge of either delivering information to the public or controlling what others try to deliver to the public are so overwhelmingly committed to using that power to control what information is out there?

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 8:10 pm

      Of course 2016 was a fair election. I don’t recall any significant allegations of voter fraud on either side. Hillary Clinton had 90% of the complicit agenda media in her corner, she outspent Trump more than 2 to 1 — AND SHE STILL LOST.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 9:04 pm

      Do you think Donald Trump will graciously concede ever?

      I do, if the legal challenges don’t yield results that would affect the outcome.

      And since you answered, do you think 2020 is a fair election?

      No, for the reasons that Amazona gave in her response at 6:33PM And BTW, Amazona is a woman — a helluva woman.

  21. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 7:30 pm

    After Election Day, #antifa in Portland organized a “march of terror” through the heart of downtown where they smashed a Catholic church, dozens of businesses & property. The National Guard was activated. Watch my @SkyNewsAust interview:

    — Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 5, 2020

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 8:07 pm

      I’m gonna just take a wild ass guess here and say it’s because, first and foremost, they believe violence is an acceptable political tactic, and having their home or business burned down is a small price to pay to advance the Progressive agenda. But I’m sure they also believe in higher taxes, reinstatement of thousands of job-killing federal regulation, Iran on track to get a nuclear weapon, phasing out of fossil fuels, a weaker U.S. military while simultaneously re-deploying combat troops all over the globe, China eating our lunch, just to name a few. Come on, man, that’s exciting.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 8:56 pm

      Taking a “wild ass guess” is a figure of speech you moron.

    • Retired Spook November 7, 2020 / 9:16 pm

      Just to be clear, I couldn’t care less why the citizens of Portland voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden. Portland, OR, is one of if not THE most disfunctional city in the country.

    • Amazona November 7, 2020 / 9:24 pm

      For what, precisely, did America vote?

      I’m speaking, to be clear, of policy.

      Among those who punched the ticket for Joe and Kamala, what was the ideological demand?

      To generalize is to err, and it would be foolish to paint Donkey Party supporters with a broad brush.

      I’m focusing solely on a subset.

      You’re well aware of them–people who evidently exclusively get their news via a laser-focused, inaccurate narrative against Trump.

      Concerning that particular group of voters, if Biden’s the new Commander-in-Chief, what ideas won?

      It seems to me the answer is none.

      No ideas.

      Who has time for ideas when Satan is at the door?

      For the sake of the planet, I believe many Blue voters waged war at the polls, not for something, but against.

      They were combatting a cartoon.

      For the last half-decade, talking heads have crafted an animated evil by perpetually passing along a portrayal of what could never have walked the earth.

      We were presented with the notion that a Democrat celebrity fawned over for decades as a lovable, eccentric billionaire and championed in rap songs had all the while–and without notice from anyone anywhere, including close liberals and minorities–been an angry, white supremacist hatemonger sent from the bowels of hell to, suddenly and without warning at 70 years old, become the 21st century’s Hitler. Even as his opponents were socialists–like the Nazis.

      What was crafted was a character drawn with a sharpie and colored by markers. He was no more a realistic possibility than Daffy Duck.

      Yet, we seemed to be told, we were now living in a Space Jam world: Cartoons had come to life.

      And it was quite an evolutionary leap.

      Objective news had been going the way of the dodo bird for quite some time. But with Trump, on our way to the filtered future, someone hit the lever for lightspeed.

      It didn’t have to be that way. Decades ago, the media was a trusted source. Reporters didn’t give their opinions, as that was the antithesis of reporting.

      News outlets didn’t slant with the steepness of a fat-kidded see-saw, because that was the opposite of information.

      But things have changed, perhaps permanently.

      Such an 86’ing of objectivity led to a friend of mine–over the last few years–persistently sharing gun control information online, with all of the facts repeatedly wrong.

      It paved the way for another friend recently telling me of the myth of the mob. He said no one had set fires in American cities, except maybe in a dumpster. As for looting, he spoke of mass exaggeration. After watching whatever media outlet he trusts, he even provided me a number of those responsible: “Maybe 12.”

      From all he’d seen or read, he believed there had been “maybe 12” looters.

  22. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 9:36 pm

    Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani cited another example of dead people voting in this election, including boxer Joe Frazier, a longtime Republican, who died five years ago.

    “Joe continues to vote. If I recall correctly, Joe was a Republican, so maybe I shouldn’t complain,” Giuliani said sarcastically. “But we should go see if Joe is voting Republican or Democrat now from the grave.”

    “Also, Will Smith’s father has voted here twice since he died. I don’t know how he votes since he’s always voted secret,” he said. “In Philadelphia, they keep the votes of dead people secret. At least that is something you can be commended for.”

    There have been a string of USPS whistleblower cases that Project Veritas has made public. Project Veritas released their first video of a United States Postal Service worker in Traverse City, Michigan, coming forward to expose their supervisor, Johnathan Clarke, potentially engaging in voter fraud. The second video released Thursday afternoon allegedly shows a USPS worker in Las Vegas, Nevada, talking about handing over a “handful” of ballots to an undercover journalist. The blank ballots were collected because they were allegedly sent to the wrong address. The third video was Hopkins’ original report. Video number four was of a USPS whistleblower in Coraopolis, Pennsylvania who claimed supervisors and other higher-ups are ordering carriers to backdate ballots that were received after Election Day.

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