Stop the Steal Open Thread

Well, Trump laid down the marker: he won and will win if all legal votes are counted. I think this is correct: to me, Trump not only won PA and AZ, he won MI and WI, as well. The sheer brazenness of the Democrat fraud here is astounding – they aren’t really trying to hide it, knowing as they do that the MSM will not show it to the Democrat base.

We’ll see how it comes out – it is an uphill climb for Trump as he has to get the fraud to stop long enough to certify the legal votes. This may go on for a while. Keep in mind as it goes on that you’re going to hear MSM reports and rumors – each and every one of them is a lie designed to get you to give up and then put pressure on Trump to quit. I’m sure they’ll have polls out soon showing that eleventy bazillion percent favor Trump conceding. I hope Trump wins – and some people think he will. I think the psychological turning point would be Arizona going for Trump. Right now, he’s behind there but he’s doing better than expected in the count and plenty are saying he should come out ahead there. The good news is that we’re having an honest count in Arizona – because, you know, it is run by Republicans.

Do now be swayed by network calls: nothing is for sure until the vote is certified. The calls of AZ for Biden and the House +5 for Democrats show how ridiculously the MSM is lying about things.

And that brings me to The Rest of the Story:

Tuesday was catastrophically bad for the Democrats. They failed in the Senate. They’ve already lost a net of ten House seats (so much for that D+5 call, huh?); they may end up with a majority of 219 or 220. There’s even a slight chance the GOP winds up with 218! And it is slight: don’t get your hopes up on that…but wouldn’t it be the most awesome thing in the world to take away Nancy’s gavel? Again! Democrats also got blown out in governorships and State legislative races: and this means the GOP has a huge advantage in the redistricting to take place next year…and we’ve got a 6-3 Supreme Court majority to ensure against Democrat court challenges. CA and NY are going to lose House seats next year – FL and TX will gain. Maybe 3 each! And we’re going to draw some nice, little districts to ensure they all go our way.

If the Democrats do manage to install Biden – whom I will never accept as the legitimate President – then we look forward to a crushing mid-term victory in 2022.

We’re watching to see who is in the fight – and one that I mark for the future is Richard Grenell. He’s been in this fight from the beginning. He doesn’t back down. He punches back twice as hard. And this Conservative Catholic may find himself gladly voting for the gay guy in 2024.

79 thoughts on “Stop the Steal Open Thread

  1. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 9:52 pm

    …..instead of choosing simple, hand-marked paper ballots that are most resistant to tampering because paper cannot be hacked, many are opting for pricier technology that computer security experts consider almost as risky as earlier discredited electronic systems.

    Called ballot-marking devices, the machines have touchscreens for registering voter choice. Unlike touchscreen-only machines, they print out paper records that are scanned by optical readers. South Carolina voters will use them in Saturday’s primary.

    The most pricey solution available, they are at least twice as expensive as the hand-marked paper ballot option. They have been vigorously promoted by the three voting equipment vendors that control 88 percent of the U.S. market.

    Some of the most popular ballot-marking machines, made by industry leaders Election Systems & Software and Dominion Voting Systems, register votes in bar codes that the human eye cannot decipher. That’s a problem, researchers say: Voters could end up with printouts that accurately spell out the names of the candidates they picked, but, because of a hack, the bar codes do not reflect those choices. Because the bar codes are what’s tabulated, voters would never know that their ballots benefited another candidate.

    Even on machines that do not use bar codes, voters may not notice if a hack or programming error mangled their choices. A University of Michigan study determined that only 7 percent of participants in a mock election notified poll workers when the names on their printed receipts did not match the candidates they voted for.

    ES&S rejects those scenarios. Spokeswoman Katina Granger said the company’s ballot-marking machines’ accuracy and security “have been proven through thousands of hours of testing and tens of thousands of successful elections.” Dominion declined to comment for this story.

    Nearly 1 in 5 U.S. voters will be using ballot-marking machines this year, compared with less than 2% in 2018, according to Verified Voting, which tracks voting technology.

    Pivotal counties in the crucial states of Pennsylvania, Ohio and North Carolina have bought ballot-marking machines. So have counties in much of Texas, as well as California’s Los Angeles County and all of Georgia, Delaware and South Carolina. The machines’ certification has often been streamlined in the rush to get machines in place for presidential primaries.

    Ballot-marking devices were not conceived as primary vote-casting tools but as accessible options for people with disabilities.

    Critics see them as vulnerable to hacking. At last year’s DefCon hacker convention in Las Vegas, it took tinkerers at the ‘Voting Village’ not even eight hours to hack two older ballot-marking devices.

    Tampering aside, some of the newer ballot-marking machines have stumbled badly in actual votes. That happened most spectacularly in November when ES&S’s top-of-the-line ExpressVote XL debuted in a Pennsylvania county.

    Even without technical troubles, the new machines can lead to longer lines, potentially reducing turnout. Voters need more time to cast ballots and the machine’s high costs have prompted election officials to limit how many they purchase.

    “There are a huge number of reasons to reject today’s ballot-marking devices — except for limited use as assistive devices for those unable to mark a paper ballot themselves,” says Doug Jones, a University of Iowa computer scientist who co-authored the voting technology history “Broken Ballots.”

    Pennsylvania’s Northampton County’s …new ExpressVote XLs failed doubly.

    First, a programming misconfiguration prevented votes cast for one of three candidates in a judge’s race from registering in the bar codes used to count the vote. Only absentee ballot votes registered for the candidate, said the county executive, Lamont McClure. The other problem was miscalibrated touchscreens, which can “flip” votes or simply make it difficult to vote for one’s desired candidate due to faulty screen alignment.. They were on about one-third of the county’s 320 machines, which cost taxpayers $8,250 each.

    One poll judge called the touch screens “garbage.” Some voters, in emails obtained by the AP in a public records request, said their votes were assigned to the wrong candidates.

    • jdge1 November 8, 2020 / 11:47 am

      You mean other than the illegal spying Obama, Biden and several other key administration members took part in against Trump’s team? The extent of the spying in the 2016 election made Watergate look like rookies. Watergate btw was the reason Nixon was forced from office. Think we’ll ever see Obama or Biden & cohorts pay for those crimes?

  2. Amazona November 7, 2020 / 11:43 pm

    In this election we have had:

    Mass mailings of unsolicited ballots to names on uncorrected voter registration rolls with no effort to find out if those people are still legitimate voters in that state or are even still alive.

    Large numbers of these unsolicited ballots undelivered—dumped in ditches, trash cans, fields, tucked under rocks, etc.

    Duplicate or multiple ballots sent to the same person

    Ballots sent to people who had moved and registered in other states

    Ballots sent to people identified in state documents as being deceased

    Last minute changes to election and voting laws that did not go through state legislatures including changing of state statutes regarding when and how ballots can be counted, which violated properly legislated election laws

    Violations of state and federal laws regarding the legal ability of poll watchers to watch ballots being opened and counted

    Violations of both federal election law and federal postal laws by several (that we have documented) post offices where ballots were tampered with in some way, such as being date-stamped with the wrong date or where unused ballots were offered to people intending to use them fraudulently

    Widespread use of machines proved to be unreliable and which have been proved to be able to —whether through purposeful programming or due to hacking or miscalibration—-change the vote of the voter by disguising the name of the candidate actually receiving the vote within a bar code

    Widespread use of machines vulnerable to hacking

    Widespread use of machines requiring extensive training to prevent occurrences such as the transposing of votes, assigning the vote total for one candidate to another candidate

    Widespread use of machines which, if the touchscreens are miscalibrated, flip votes from one candidate to another when the voter votes

    Widespread use of ballot marking machines which do not create a paper record, making it impossible to confirm votes

    Accounts of vote counters trying to interpret or determine what they believe to be the intent of the voter when this is not clear within the ballot

    And so on. In other words, for whatever reasons people choose to attribute to these things, the 2020 presidential election was designed to deprive the American public with confidence in the outcome of the election. On a much vaster scale it still reeks of the same kind of effort to sow distrust and chaos we saw in Florida in 2000 when Democrats designed a confusing ballot and then, before the election even took place, hired a telephone marketing company to start calling people who had voted to ‘warn” them that they might have accidentally voted for the wrong person.

    Some states had orderly elections in which it appears that the rules were followed. Some states had the same issues I outlined, above.

    • jdge1 November 8, 2020 / 11:59 am

      …” this is just getting embarrassing.”

      You mean like citing Buchanan as one of the 2 primary candidates running for president in 2000?

  3. Amazona November 8, 2020 / 1:12 am

    Joe Biden, in a premature victory lap, just said it is up to Trump supporters to be nice.

    “For all those of you who voted for President Trump, I understand the disappointment tonight,” Mr. Biden said. “I’ve lost a couple times myself. But now, let’s give each other a chance. It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again.”

    In other words, while one of his faces is piously posturing as wanting healing and unity, the other is still promoting the lie that it is the Trump side that has been responsible for “the harsh rhetoric” and nastiness.

    Yet it is Leftist voices calling for enemy lists of Republican opponents,

    “We’re launching the Trump Accountability Project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did.”
    Hari Sevugan

    People making lists of other people for political retribution:

    – @AOC (member of Congress)
    – @mbsimon (list includes judges)
    – @emabrams (ditto)
    – @JRubinBlogger (@washingtonpost

    — Joel Pollak (@joelpollak) November 7, 2020

    “It’s not only that @realDonaldTrump has to lose, his enablers have to lose. We have to collectively burn down the Republican Party. We have to level them. Because if there are survivors….they will do it again.” Jennifer Rubin

    (Martin) Weissgerber is the second Sanders organizer to call for sending Republicans in re-education camps. Last week, Project Veritas released undercover footage showing Kyle Jurek, a Sanders staffer in Iowa, arguing that gulags were beneficial for the Soviet Union and suggesting they could be used to re-educate both Trump voters and billionaires.

    “In Nazi Germany, after the fall of the Nazi Party, there was a shit-ton of the populace that was fucking Nazified,” says Jurek. “Germany had to spend billions of dollars re-educating their fucking people to not be Nazis,” Jurek explained. “We’re probably going to have to do the same fucking thing here. That’s kind of what all Bernie’s whole fucking like, ‘hey, free education for everybody’ because we’re going to have to teach you to not be a fucking Nazi.”

    When this nightmare is over, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission. It would erase Trump’s lies, comfort those who have been harmed by his hatefulness, and name every official, politician, executive, and media mogul whose greed and cowardice enabled this catastrophe.

    — Robert Reich (@RBReich

    The most humane and reasonable way to deal with all these people, if we survive this, is some kind of truth and reconciliation commission.
    — Chris Hayes

    Jeffery Martin 1 day ago

    Florida Trump Supporters Injured in Drive-by Shooting, Say Police

    Two individuals participating in a rally supporting President Donald Trump in Fort Lauderdale, Florida were shot with a pellet gun on Friday

  4. Amazona November 8, 2020 / 1:39 am

    A dispute on social media saw Texan progressive activist Johnny Graz seeking to make a case that the Democratic presidential nominee should be investigated for sexual assault.

    I tried to respond with a video of evidence on how Biden interacts with women and little girls but Twitter flagged me for trying to post images of child molestation hahahahahahhaha.

    Guess twitter agrees with @jvgraz

    Another commenter, who goes by the name ‘Jake Koenig,’ sought to support Graz’s argument by posting a video compilation of Biden touching various young girls during photo ops at their parents’ congressional swear-in ceremonies in 2015.

    However, the commenter was unable to post the official public footage of the proceedings because “Twitter flagged [him] for trying to post images of child molestation.”

    Koenig’s claim was easily verifiable, as Twitter does indeed very quickly identify the video as “prohibited” content that “violates [their] Child Sexual Exploitation Policy.”

    Moreover, Twitter bans the user’s account until they’ve deleted the footage.

    The notorious footage shows the former vice president touching US legislators’ daughters and granddaughters on various parts of the body. At various points, he appears to be holding some girls in place while closely leaning in to whisper in their ears.

    I saw this video and agree, video of an old man fondling a young girl’s breast is certainly an example of child molestation. The girl was a daughter of new Colorado Senator Michael Bennet and Biden’s hand was firmly on her left breast for quite some time. At first I cut him a little slack, as the height difference between him and the child MIGHT account for his hand around her being placed higher than her waist—but then when he turned away after several seconds he quite clearly squeezed her breast and then gave it a pinch. There were other young girls, daughters or granddaughters of people being sworn in, who were also touched inappropriately, fondled or sniffed or kissed. His “holding in place” involved placing young girls in front of him and pulling them up against his crotch.

    He is such a decent man, when his daughter in law went to him for help after his son Hunter started sexual behavior toward her 14-year-old daughter (Joe’s own granddaughter) his response was to tell her she was the one who should get therapy. (Topless photos of this 14-year-old girl, some in sexually provocative poses with her 48-year old Uncle Hunter, were among the other child porn photos on the Hunter Biden laptop computer now being examined by the FBI.)

    • jdge1 November 8, 2020 / 12:12 pm

      You can’t find it and it’s not in the NY Post so it must be made up ?!? What brilliant logic. Find anything on the Tara Reade allegations against Biden?

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