Open Thread

Project Veritas put out the proof that CNN is a mere propaganda arm of the DNC – something we’ve all known for a while. But for those a little slow on the uptake: CNN is only just now reporting that China lied about the Chinese Flu. Seriously: news you and I learned in January is now being breathlessly reported on CNN.

If your goal was to rig an election, then you would do just what the Democrats did.

Some are despairing that we’ll never get around this: that the cheat was so large and brazen in 2020, it shows we’ll never be able to win again. This is not the case: the Democrats always cheat. There has not been an election since 1824 when Democrats didn’t cheat. But cheating enough to win the Electoral College is a staggering undertaking and can only be done if you have total control over the voting districts you need. In 2020, because the GOP was caught flat-footed by the scale of Democrat cheating, the Democrats look to have pulled it off. But if they try again in 2024, the GOP will be wise to what they are doing – and, meanwhile, we have a great deal of power over the Democrat controlled areas, as we do in Florida, and can impose controls which will make cheating that less likely to succeed.

What is most important to me – and this is now yet another genuinely Conservative thing Trump has done (and, so, a Revolutionary act) – is that the fraud is very much out in the open now. The Democrats had to shove millions of ballots into the system to drag Biden over the finish line (no one really believes Joe Biden got more votes than Obama did in 2008). And Trump warned about it months in advance – he said precisely what they’d do, and then the Democrats went on an did it. The pressure will now build in areas where the GOP has control to improve processes to detect and prevent fraud.

You might have heard all sorts of worry-stories about Florida and Texas: how the Democrats were going to use voter fraud to flip both blue. Well, Trump won Texas by 631,000 votes and Florida by 371,000 votes. The Democrats did try to fraud there way through both States. They weren’t able to because the GOP got wise to their tactics and simply adjusted the rules to make cheating vastly more difficult. And, remember, even squish GOPers go along with these reforms: no GOPer wants to actually lose his or her race due to fraud. What I’m saying is, fret not! We’re not out of this game by a long shot.

The Chinese are not stupid – highest paid bureaucrat in California has ties to Chinese intelligence. One has to hand it to the Chinese: they are really good at what they do. Read the story: the man in question is an avowed patriot for China. He might be American, but he says his loyalty is to China. And yet he was given this very powerful and lucrative job. Back in Beijing, I’m sure that caused quite a lot of laughs. History is filled with rich Empires purchasing the loyalty of poor barbarian leaders…but I think that China’s purchase of America’s Ruling Class is unique. We are the richer nation, by far and yet they’ve bought us.

This is not just the ChiComs owning Joe: there is no aspect of American life where China hasn’t purchased a controlling interest. Our entertainment industry allows China to censor it. Our Tech companies fall all over themselves to help China develop tools of oppression. Social Media gleefully allows armies of Chinese bots to warp public perception of events. Politicians are paid off to dance around China’s manifest human rights violations. Chinese money flows into radical Left groups in the USA to foment hatred among Americans (they probably fund some of the more screwy right wing groups, as well). China didn’t even spend all that much money to get this: not only is our Ruling Class corrupt, it is cheap…$20 hooker stuff. What angered them all, and I think more than anything else, was that Trump was messing with this. China didn’t like it, either, and I’m sure Chinese intel helped out the DNC/MSM any way it could against Trump. Can we get around this? We’re going to have to or we’ll wind up a Chinese colony. And it will take even sterner actions than Trump was doing to make it happen: China must be pushed out of the United States.

65 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook December 2, 2020 / 1:53 pm

    Some are despairing that we’ll never get around this: that the cheat was so large and brazen in 2020, it shows we’ll never be able to win again.

    I have a hard time relating to people who identify with a party whose main paths to power are cheating and bribing low income people with free stuff. Clearly both strategies work, or the Democrat Party would have been whisked into the dustbin of history a long time ago. So far their power has largely been limited in blue cysts scattered around the country and on and off in the federal government. They’ve never had enough centralized power to affect the average, flyover country American’s life. My wife and I lived through the 8 years of Obama in relative comfort. My gut feeling is that that’s about to change.

    • Retired Spook December 2, 2020 / 4:49 pm

      And then, of course, these same people (and I used that term loosely) who lie, cheat, steal and bribe their way to power, resort to rioting, burning and looting when they don’t get their own way.

    • dbschmidt December 2, 2020 / 4:53 pm

      It isn’t just free stuff–it is the intentional failure of education and replacement of education with indoctrination. Most of the younger folks wouldn’t know what a newspaper is even if you hit them across the face with it. Most don’t even watch the “news.” They get their information from the Facebooks of the world and late night comedians.

      RIP Walter Williams. One of the greats.

  2. dbschmidt December 2, 2020 / 9:15 pm

    From two minions that have no friggin’ idea of what they are talking about just running around the web and spouting crap they think is impressive. You both wouldn’t have any idea of law & the basis of that law if the entire collections of laws fell on your head.

    Personally, I would rather have some plain spoken folks (usually mid-west) rather than lawyers represent me with possibly the exception of John Neely Kennedy who is a lawyer, but quite honest . I also note both you dweebs pass over information or comments you don’t like, Like how socialism has destroyed so many countries before you assault the US like it doesn’t matter. I would say answer all of the question or STFU.

    Please tell me how and when Socialism has ever lifted anyone from poverty, when a poor person has employed anyone, or a list of other thoughts that Walter Williams has defined–I am sure you have read at least one of his works on economics. Right? What exactly is you politic position and planks?

    The internet gives you some anonymity but not what you think…. need some doxxing? Not my style but very easy to do. Do you really want fame for all the wrong reasons? Don’t think a simple VPN or other methods will protect you–I know better and is one reason I use a static IP. I am willing to project who I am. I am not afraid of what I post. As Amamoza once said “Dangley parts do not define a man” <- really bad paraphrasing there.

    Grow up ~ Get a life and possibly have a real thought of your own. You two are the perfect example of why these COVID-1984 lock downs are total BS.

    • Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 11:20 am

      Simonee and Crewman remind me of the squirrels that raid the bird feeder on my upper deck. I put baffles on the deck posts so the squirrels couldn’t climb up, but they soon discovered they could just climb up the chains that hold the porch swing on the lower deck that hangs from the underside of the upper deck. I put sunflower seed hearts in the feeder, which many species of birds love, and the squirrels think it’s caviar. They love to taunt my dog, and occasionally I’ll let her out to chase them off. They run down the railing and jump over to the nearest tree that’s about 8 feet away. It’s become somewhat of an entertaining game. But, at the end of the day, just like Simonee and Crewman, they’re just dumb rodents.

      • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 10:10 pm

        At least they’re entertaining.

        And unlike our trolls, they seem pretty smart.

    • simoneee9 December 2, 2020 / 11:42 pm

      The Trumpiest thing I’ve seen for a while. Pure distilled MAGA.

  3. Cluster December 3, 2020 / 9:00 am

    So Los Angeles just banned walking lol

    Los Angeles residents are ordered to stay in their homes effective immediately as Mayor Eric Garcetti banned all travel including walking, closed non-essential businesses and threatened to arrest anyone breaking the new lockdown rules as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations surge. The city was told the new move was ‘necessary for the protection of life and property in the City of Los Angeles’. It comes hours after mayor Eric Garcetti told the almost four million people in the city limits to ‘cancel everything’. ‘Don’t meet up with others outside your household. Don’t host gatherings. Don’t go to gatherings. Just stay home.’ According to the order, ‘all travel, including, without limitation, travel on foot, bicycle, scooter, motorcycle, automobile, or public transit is prohibited’. However, there are some exceptions outlined in the order, which include essential needs such as food, healthcare services, social services and others. Los Angeles County, the nation’s largest with about 10 million residents, recorded its highest daily total of cases Tuesday with more than 7,500 and on Wednesday fell just shy of 6,000, still one of the highest to date.

    Garcetti did not ban riots though so Democrats still have their priorities straight. Meanwhile, some human stain named simonee is mocking a distraught woman who fears for her life and career demonstrating once again the compassion of the party of women.

    America is currently drowning in the mental illness of progressivism … manufactured issues of climate change and systemic racism combined with corruption and incompetence and a blind allegiance to China now define the Democrat Party.

    If the pedophile and the slut are installed, the unrest has just begun

    • Cluster December 3, 2020 / 9:11 am

      AND it gets better ….

      Utilities in southern California have warned that they are considering shutting off power to more than 350,000 customers as a precaution during a windy period expected to last into the weekend

      So while you’re locked down in your home, the Democrats who run CA will now have to cut your power because of their dizzying incompetence and this is the party simonee and travesty are all excited about. Who needs electricity when you’re saving the world for the LGBTQ community?

    • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 7:47 pm

      Cluster, I once saw an amazingly calm and competent CPA get so nervous testifying just in a deposition she came across as a dingbat—and she was not in a public hearing televised for the nation.

      But this is what the Left does—-try to distract from the mountain of evidence to sneer at a personality trait. That would be bad enough if they admitted to just being horrible petty nasty people, but they do this while also trying to lay claim to the Higher Moral Ground.

      BTW, have you noticed the lack of attention from the Agenda Media and their attendant trolls to the fact that the alleged president-elect was under investigation for what would be felony crimes in the United States in a foreign nation which is an ally of ours? That’s gotta be a first. Oh, yeah, the investigation was “closed” a week after the media anointed Biden as our next president.

  4. Cluster December 3, 2020 / 9:38 am

    Great article … and let’s not kid ourselves, Democrats are not fond of this country and will gladly sell it out (if they haven’t already) and destroy traditions (which they are in the process of)

    There is a consensus that American society in 2020 is more polarized than at any point in the nation’s history. If Joe Biden is inaugurated as President thanks to an irrefutably fraudulent and choreographed election, then this polarization is irreversible and will ultimately lead to a permanent fracturing of the country as the central government will be deriving its power from usurpation and not from the consent of the governed. The sixty-year crusade of the American left and its Hate America Strategy, conceived to facilitate the ultimate transformation of the nation, will have succeeded in ways they never could have imagined.

    • Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 11:10 am

      I’ve read a lot of articles at AT, and that is one of the best.

      Here he nails exactly what we’ve been witnessing for the last half century:

      On the other hand, beginning in the 1960’s the American left’s entire platform to seize power and satisfy their megalomania was built on fomenting revulsion and animosity toward the United States as founded. Recognizing that the century old tactic of exploiting class hostilities would not succeed in an essentially egalitarian society and piggybacking on the Civil Rights Movement, a new strategy was adopted: exploit the nation’s past by subjecting it to the intense spotlight of the present.

      Using the criteria of judging any nation’s past, not by the circumstances or societal norms of the day but by today’s standards, will inevitably lead to condemnation. However, rather than accept what happened in the past as the irreversible history of the times and move on, as virtually all other nations have done, the American left has succeeded in making the past America’s defining national characteristic.

  5. Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 12:46 pm

    A great question just posed by Stu on Glenn Beck:

    “How do you enforce a mask mandate if you defund the police?”

  6. Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 4:14 pm

    The circumstantial evidence just keeps piling up. People have been convicted and sent to prison on a lot less.

    • Cluster December 3, 2020 / 5:08 pm

      I was just reading about this too. Unbelievable. The amount of evidence of election fraud that has come out just this week is overwhelming.

      • Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 5:38 pm

        Detractors act as if circumstantial evidence ISN’T evidence. Lots of people in jail convicted strictly on circumstantial evidence. Hopefully a number of the people involved in this fraud will be joining them. Not holding my breath, though.

      • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 11:05 pm

        For a while some of the dumber ones tried calling eyewitness testimony “hearsay” but it may have penetrated even their dim intellects that this was a rather dangerous direction to go, given the impeachment charade based on real hearsay, which they loved and applauded and cheered on.

  7. Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 6:30 pm

    Best statistical analysis I’ve seen of historical anomalies in 2020 election.

    • crewman4238 December 3, 2020 / 7:23 pm

      None of this is evidence, RetiredSpook. Of course, circumstantial evidence is evidence, but the statistical analysis you cite basically highlights the fact that Donald Trump underperformed relative to other Republicans. An explanation for this is that, for a lot of voters, Donald Trump was toxic. A huge number of voters couldn’t wait to vote against him. Further, it is always the case that down ballot races receive fewer votes than the presidential candidates on the same ballot.

      I am sincere in asking, what is the endgame here? If the evidence, circumstantial or not, is so strong, why is it not presented in a court of law? There have been 40 cases decided, and only one was ruled in Trump’s favor, effecting a few hundred votes. Why has the Trump campaign not had a better record in court?

      • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 7:36 pm

        I am sincere in asking, what is the endgame here? Yes, soooooo sincere.

        This is not the time or place to try to explain the legal process to the trolls. Suffice it to say that a smart lawyer knows that a lower court ruling in his or her favor can be overuled, running out the clock, but a negative ruling will just advance the case to the Supreme Court. Therefore, a case filed in a lower court should allow for reasonable dismissal, so the process can continue quickly.

        As for not yet submitting all the evidence, that is also a strategy. Clearly you do not play poker.

      • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 8:34 pm

        None of this is evidence

        But that is exactly what it IS. Your ignorance of the legal process is astounding. Of course it is evidence. What you are trying to get at is that you don’t personally find the vast amounts and types of evidence from so many sources in so many states compelling enough for you to arrive at the logical conclusion that the election results were manipulated.

        And witness testimony is also evidence, and it is NOT by definition “circumstantial” but specific and pertinent.

        Circumstantial Evidence
        n. Evidence not bearing directly on the fact in dispute but instead on an attendant circumstance, such as the defendant’s blood type or shoe size, from which the judge or jury might infer the occurrence of the fact in dispute.
        n. evidence providing only a basis for inference about the fact in dispute

        Information and testimony presented by a party in a civil or criminal action that permit conclusions that indirectly establish the existence or nonexistence of a fact or event that the party seeks to prove.

        Watch this video for examples of circumstantial and direct evidence.

        When a witness testifies that hundreds of thousands of ballots were brought in from another state, this would probably constitute both direct and circumstantial evidence of crimes: The direct evidence is that the ballots were taken from one state to another, the circumstantial evidence was that they were then used to commit voter fraud by being entered as if they were valid and legal votes.

        We have witnesses saying they saw actual crimes being committed. That is not circumstantial evidence.

  8. Amazona December 3, 2020 / 7:20 pm

    The entire AGW hysteria is based on statistical analysis of guesses (“computer models”) but millions of Lefties want to turn our entire economy upside down and “transform” our form of government because it has them so freaked out.

    DNA is nothing but statistical analysis but it is considered so compelling by courts and juries that it has sentenced people to death and allowed other prisoners to be set free.

    All insurance is based on statistical analysis yet even the most hyper-emotional Lefties buy it, for homes and cars and to pay for health care.

    Yet the massive abundance of statistical analysis of the many anomalies and indices of blatant fraud in this election is ignored in favor of making fun of a woman’s personality and speech mannerisms to the point of libel.

    (Their personal attack on her is reminiscent of Decent Joe Biden slandering and libeling the poor man who was involved in the accident that killed Biden’s wife as Biden persisted for years in the vicious lie that the man had caused the accident because he was drunk.)

  9. Amazona December 3, 2020 / 7:30 pm

    I keep hearing people, including Bill Barr, referring to the possibility that the election fraud might not have been enough to change the outcome, as if that means it should not be vigorously investigated and prosecuted. That is a stupid and shortsighted approach to this multi-dimensional and pervasive attack on the heart of our system.

    They appear to be saying that if the proven fraud is not enough change the outcome by moving X number of votes from one person to another, then no harm no foul.

    That’s like saying it isn’t worth prosecuting a bank robber if he didn’t take all the money in the vault, or that we should give a drunk driver a pass if the wreck he caused only totaled a car worth less than $20,000. Is arson OK if it only destroys part of a building?

    Fraud is fraud. If the results of an election are proved to be inconclusive because we have proved that ballots were created, or destroyed, or improperly counted, then the election is at heart fatally flawed. Period. At that point the election results should be dismissed and the investigation should move to find out who did what and then prosecute each miscreant to the fullest extent of the law.

    Will people be cheated out of their votes? Yes, but people will be cheated out of their votes if the election is legitimized as they will have been canceled out by fraudulent votes.

  10. Retired Spook December 3, 2020 / 9:12 pm

    An excellent addition to the YCMTSU file:

    Georgia Sec. State Raffensperger investigating Stacey Abrams’ group for GOTV fraud after it attempted to register his deceased son

    • Amazona December 3, 2020 / 11:03 pm

      Well, if that’s what it takes…….

  11. Cluster December 4, 2020 / 7:57 am

    The amount of “irregularities” (which is just a nice word for corruption) in this election are undeniable and overwhelming. Regardless of the outcome of 2020, this can never happen again lest the public confidence in national elections be gone forever, and that would surely lead to an all out war.

    Why was a Dominion server connected to the election found in Germany (article linked below). WTH is that about? And how did Biden garner 100,000’s of votes and take the lead in the middle of the night when counting had been suspended in the 5 swing states? And why was counting suspended in the first place? Note how all the irregularities are with Dominion and the States that employed those systems. IN AZ, Maricopa county (Phoenix) was the only county to use Dominion and the only county with “irregularities” and the same is for MI, PA, GA, and NV. Dominion was obviously strategically placed in Democrat controlled areas to manipulate the outcome.

    Do Democrats really think that after years of manufacturing a Russia collusion conspiracy, an impeachment, a 25th amendment effort, and an emolument clause attack in an all out effort to remove Trump from office that they would not try and alter the outcome of the 2020 election?? If so, then I have some real estate I would like to talk to you about.

    Here’s what happens … if the pedophile is installed as POTUS, he is illegitimate from day 1 and the blow back for the next four years will be deafening. Those who support the pedophile will not enjoy peace in public ever, and no real American will abide by any Democrat decree. If this transpires my hope is that Trump announces his 2024 presidential campaign on January 20, 2021, sets up HQ at Trump plaza just down the street from the WH, and begins to hold massive rallies all over the country for the next 4 years. There are 80+ million Americans that support his vision of America and they are well armed and motivated.

    The proper outcome of course is the reelection of President Trump

    • Retired Spook December 4, 2020 / 9:43 am

      Regardless of the outcome of 2020, this can never happen again lest the public confidence in national elections be gone forever

      That’s exactly what the Left wants, no more elections, or at least no more meaningful, honest elections. They’d be perfectly happy with the kind of elections they have in Russia or Venezuela, And you’re right about it leading to all out war. The masses in those countries don’t have the means to fight back; we still do.

  12. Cluster December 4, 2020 / 8:29 am

    Here are America’s elected officials lowering America to the lowest common denominator and supporting non Americans “dreams” rather than our own children’s dreams. This is treason and it’s time we called it that.

    Republican Senators Marco Rubio, John Cornyn, Susan Collins, and Thom Tillis will attend a Thursday “summit” meeting hosted by the “American Business Immigration Coalition,” a pro-amnesty group consisting of big business donors, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, as well as the George Soros-funded United We Dream organization.

    America doesn’t need anymore immigrants right now, hell we can’t even employ or take care of those already here and America’s children’s futures are suffering in the process.

    • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:47 am

      Hopefully they are just “attending” so they can keep an eye on what is planned, and not going to be part of the process.

  13. Cluster December 4, 2020 / 9:02 am

    What Democrats/Progressives/Morons or whatever label you want to put on these emotionally challenged reprobates need to understand is that there will NEVER be unity.

    President-elect Joe Biden said he hoped, for the sake of the nation, President Donald Trump would attend his inauguration, shake his hand, and let the country move on.

    Democrats are the enemy of the American people and there is currently a cold war going on ….. only time will tell if that heats up

    • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:46 am

      OF COURSE he desperately needs Trump and half of the nation to pretend he is a duly legally elected president. It’s partly delusion and partly that strange substitution of theater for reality that makes them (or at least their mindless thralls) think that a gesture will change the facts, just as they think that a speech will change the law regarding voting.

      I don’t know if Joe really believes he got all those votes or if he is just so bone-deep corrupt in every cell of his body and so totally without shame that he just doesn’t care just so he can play president. He is certainly playing it up.

      As for “letting the country move on” the direction Biden et al want it to move it is an acceleration from its incremental creep toward the precipice into a headlong stampede over the cliff. Sure, we take note of Biden’s penchant for groping little girls, of his corruption and inherent dishonesty, of his callous abuse of the power and privilege of his former status as vice president–who wouldn’t? But our core objections are all in the arena of policy, just as they were in the Obama era. I am thinking that they will have to bump off Joe pretty quickly so they can get Kamala in office, so they can pick up where they left off with claiming that our policy disagreements were really just RACISM !!!!!

      The Dems, for all their howling and whining and plotting, never seemed to address any of Trump’s POLICIES in their obsessive nonstop attacks on him and his presidency, other than carrying on about his efforts to control the border. And even that had to be recast as a character defect—racism—as the true nature of need for a controlled border was simply ignored. With them it was always Identity Politics writ large—ORANGE MAN BAD.

      • Cluster December 4, 2020 / 10:49 am

        … or if he is just so bone-deep corrupt in every cell of his body and so totally without shame that he just doesn’t care just so he can play president.

        You just nailed it ….

  14. Cluster December 4, 2020 / 9:12 am

    They are out there folks ….

    The DoD’s Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force issued the two classified intelligence ‘position reports’ in 2018 and the summer of this year, and they circulated widely in the U.S. intelligence community, according to a detailed account from The Debrief based on interviews with multiple intelligence sources. The position reports’ startling contents included a leaked photo that has never before been made public, accounts of ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena’ (UAP) emerging from the ocean and soaring through the sky, and an admission that extraterrestrial origins for the objects cannot be ruled out. ‘These revelations are extraordinary, and give the public a genuine peek behind the curtain when it comes to how the US government is handling the UFO issue,’ Nick Pope, who investigated UFOs for the UK Ministry of Defence, told

  15. crewman4238 December 4, 2020 / 3:12 pm

    Regarding the link to the Georgia “suitcase” video, that accusation of fraud has been debunked. It falls into the category of a baseless conspiracy theory. Baseless conspiracy theories are not evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.

    According to Amazona, the Trump campaign is deploying a novel, cunning strategy of purposely losing court cases in order to appeal the rulings all the way to the Supreme Court, where she or he expects there will be a favorable ruling–I guess because Donald Trump appointed three of the current justices. (That right there is a sad commentary on the politicization of the judicial system if it is true.)

    Amazona pointed out that I am not a lawyer, which is true. Neither is she. But I guess I would ask, is this strategy of purposely losing court cases taught in law school? Or is it such a clever trick that only the Trump lawyers know about it? Can you, Amazona, point me to anything that describes how purposely losing in court is considered good legal strategy?

    • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 3:22 pm

      Can you, cryman, point me to anything that describes why I, or anyone, should be drawn into another of you long drawn-out bickerfests?

      You set this up by claiming, falsely, that the video of ballots being pulled out from beneath tables and then being counted, without observers present, after the counting process had been officially ended for the evening, has been “debunked”. No, it hasn’t. An opinion has been given that this does not represent election fraud. Then you expand your lie to include all claims of election fraud so you can pull out the Meme Of The Day and call them “baseless”. You clearly want to bicker about this.

      You set up a straw man—that the Court would rule in Trump’s favor because he appointed three of the Justices—starting with misstating what I said, and then asserting that any ruling that is in favor of election legitimacy would be “a sad commentary on the politicization of the judicial system “.

      In other words, you come here with a satchel of false premises, lies, distortions and excuses to engage in endless bickering, which would inevitably veer off into other areas as facts mount up on the subjects at hand, and whine because I won’t help you unpack it.

      Wahhhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhh. Go cry somewhere else. And BTW, your growing obsession with me is getting downright creepy.

      • crewman4238 December 4, 2020 / 3:43 pm

        It’s not bickering. The Georgia election workers and Georgia’s voting system implementation manager have explained why there is nothing fraudulent in the video, that they weren’t suitcases at all.

        The sad commentary I referred to is the idea that the courts are so politicized that getting a case to the Supreme Court would end up with a more favorable result than lower courts because the Supreme Court has a conservative tilt. That’s the obvious implication of intentionally losing in lower courts.

        I would still be interested in any description of a legal strategy that calls for intentionally losing, either from you or anyone else. I don’t believe that is normal practice by any reputable lawyer.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 9:18 pm

        “They weren’t suitcases at all…” and they weren’t continuing to count after everyone else left and no one lied about having to halt counting due to a water pipe breaking, blah blah blah. Love the isolation of the one word—“suitcases”—and then denying THAT, hoping they can finesse that into a denial of everything else. No, no, they weren’t “suitcases”. They were, uh, let me see here, uh, they were “traveling boxes”. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Call the boxes of ballots hidden under tables till the watchers were sent home so they could be counted in secret by a different name and it’s all OK. The only problem was the word “suitcases”. Nothing to see here, folks, just keep moving……

        Just what IS a “conservative tilt”? Well, it’s a “tilt” toward actually applying the law as written, not as needed to advance an agenda. And this bothers the Left, which just makes up stuff as they go along. The law says all absentee ballots have to be requested, with a signature on the request? Well, there’s no reason to follow the law if some bureaucrat can just wave his magic pen and say so. The law says all returned ballots have to be postmarked by the end of the day on Election Day? The law says that every returned mailed-in ballot has to be in a signed envelope, with the signature compared to the one on file for the registration as well as the one on the application? The law says ballots can’t be counted except under certain regulated conditions? The law says that poll watchers must be allowed to oversee ballot counting, including being able to see the ballots? The law says dead people can’t vote? The law says you have to be 17 and a half to register and 18 to vote? The law says you can’t vote in Georgia if you don’t live in Georgia? The law says if you move to a different county you have to change your registration to reflect that or you aren’t registered? The law says you can’t vote more than once?

        So many pesky laws, and now there is the chance that some real jurists, who “tilt” toward applying the laws as they were written and passed by the legislature might rule that only the legislature can change those laws and the Left finds this “political”, which in this case means “inconvenient”.

        I can’t, and won’t, try to address the voices in your head that seem to be whispering all sorts of theories about “implications” and what is “reputable” and so on. Shades of basing a ruling on the “emanation” of a “penumbra” of an unwritten unstated “right”. Evidently my own “tilt” is toward the attitude that if lawmaking is a legislative duty then only legislators can make laws, while the Left is tilted toward letting unelected bureaucrats make s**t up on the fly depending on what they want the outcome to be.

        When you get right down to it, that is the main difference between the Left and the Right—that and government by the people instead of consolidating power in the hands of a few.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 9:40 pm

        The Georgia election workers and Georgia’s voting system implementation manager have explained why there is nothing fraudulent in the video…..

        Well, that settles THAT! The people committing the fraud have explained that it wasn’t really fraud at all! Nothing quite like putting the accused on the jury, is there? It does simplify things.

  16. dbschmidt December 4, 2020 / 6:04 pm

    What always gets me is there is apparently a divide in this country between those who;
    • Want the answer to what happened this election no matter the results and those that claim nothing happened—it is all debunked–so go away even though it is not and piling up every day.
    • Claim “science” but repudiate those with a differing opinion and facts. Basically, the opening in x is 5 times larger than the size of y but somehow x can block *all* y because “science.”
    • Cannot run on merits, policies and planks but rely on smears, obscuration and name calling. Please name the top three planks/policies Biden ran on when he did appear.
    • Cannot construct policy or laws that will pass Constitutional muster but relies on the favorable courts to mandate them on the American public.
    • Same difference but different, unelected people to “regulate” the majority, because of the aforementioned lack of ability.

    I am not a Democrat or Republican because I believe both sides are out of control but over the last couple of cycles I have not seen one thing on the Democratic side of the equation to vote for…plenty to vote against.

    I do not expect it but if nothing else comes out of this flawed election would be a Voter Id requirement (no, it is not racist), open sourced voting machines with a national standard—not connected to the internet and no USB devices or other methods of transferring results and a “poll tax” of a required knowledge of something as simple as “Name the three branches of Government” to be allowed to vote. Already told you it was three…pick from the following options.

    Oh, I could go on for a complete thread but how about the FCC make the “news” channels distinguish between news and opinion / activism on the chyron.

    • Cluster December 4, 2020 / 7:23 pm

      I am not a Democrat or Republican

      Neither am I. I am an American and it’s time we start an American Political Party, that puts America and it’s citizens first in all policy decisions. A party that upholds and defends every word of the Constitution every day in every decision. A party that protects the culture, the language and most importantly our borders. A party comprised of citizens who agree to term limits and when their service is done, they go back home to serve their family and community. Republicans and Democrats alike have sold this country out for far too long and their day is done.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 9:33 pm

        The first thing we have to start doing is defining our terms. We on the Right play into the hands of the Left when we adopt their Identity Politics approach, and we use words as if everyone understands them the same way we do.

        The Right is about a federal government severely restricted as to size, scope and power, with most authority left to the states or to the people. The Left is about consolidating power in a massively powerful Central Authority, with little authority left to the states or to the people. That is the core definition of each. There are a few nuances but that is basically what we are talking about. But we get sucked into playing the ISSUES game, which is just Identity Politics but with ideas instead of people.

        We could unite in agreement on the fundamentals and then fight out the issues in the appropriate arenas, but instead we let the issues define us and divide us. As much as I agree with you, Cluster, about the need to protect our culture and our language and our borders, as long as we fail to nail down the core principles of the Right and then explain them and define them to the people we will be fighting an ISSUES battle instead of a political one.

        I would love to see a spittle-flying bug-eyed Scarborough rant met with the question “Why do you believe that this nation should be governed by consolidated power in the hands of a few ?” No on-air Lefty is ever challenged on purely political terms—it’s always bickering about who said what or who is “cruel” or who did what.

  17. Amazona December 4, 2020 / 9:55 pm

    The Trump campaign has discovered disturbing video which shows key Native American leaders working with the Biden campaign, offering compensation to tribal members in exchange for them voting for Joe Biden.

    The Biden campaign official offered Visa gift cards, jewelry, and other “swag” to skew the way which the tribal members would vote in the presidential election, according to several videos being used by the Trump campaign’s effort to challenge Nevada’s vote.

    In one long video, officials from the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony are shown offering a raffle for gift cards in values of $25, $100, $250, and $500 to those who can prove they voted.

    Other gifts for voting include bracelets, necklaces, earrings, T-shirts, and masks.

    “If you come here to vote or if you voted already, RSIC is having a raffle,” said RSIC spokeswoman Bethany Sam in one of the videos. She also said, there are “a lot of great things to push you guys to get out here to vote, challenge you go get you out here to vote.”

    In the same video, she is shown wearing a Biden-Harris anti-virus mask and in front of the Biden-Harris campaign bus.

    Offering voters anything of value in exchange for their vote is a violation of federal election law, and could result in up to two years in jail along with $10,000 worth of fines.

    Oh, but wait…the next claim will be that the story about Native Americans being compensated for voting by Biden supporters openly advocating for Biden through their clothing and standing in front of a Biden/Harris bus has been, you got it: DEBUNKED. Because Jacqueline De León, staff attorney for the Native American Rights Fund, told NPR. “It’s sort of just casting a wide net of disparagement on the Nevada Native Vote Project. And it turns out a lot of their claims are unsubstantiated.” Because, well, racism—-“It’s sort of just casting a wide net of disparagement on the Nevada Native Vote Project” and disparagement is, as everyone knows, racist. And “a lot” of the claims are,, naturally, “unsubstantiated”.

    I guess she could have said they are “baseless” and “there is no evidence” because after all, videos don’t mean anything. Just ask the election officials in Georgia.

    • crewman4238 December 4, 2020 / 10:03 pm

      Two more losses in court today for the Trump campaign. In Nevada, the court rejected 25 baseless claims by the Trump campaign, writing that the campaign’s lawyers “did not prove under any standard of proof” 25 times.

      They are now 1 for 46. When does the winning start?

      • crewman4238 December 4, 2020 / 10:12 pm

        Sorry. They lost four times in court today, not two.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:23 pm

        The glee with which Leftists greet rulings that enable this and future election fraud is quite distressing. much like their acceptance and even encouragement of rioting.

        I miss the days when Democrats at least tried to pay superficial lip service to decency.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:18 pm

        Judge James Todd Russell in Carson City said he saw no clear or convincing proof “under any standard of evidence” that he should declare President Donald Trump the winner in Nevada or throw out results of the statewide vote.

        “Contestants did not prove … that illegal votes were cast and counted that should have been rejected during the signature verification process, or legal votes were not counted that should have been accepted” in numbers that would have swayed the outcome, the judge said.

        And here, again, we have the arbitrary shifting of criteria. Contestants did not prove ……… in numbers that would have swayed the outcome, That is, the judge is fine with voter fraud at certain levels.

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:27 pm

        “baseless” now means “video of crime doesn’t count as a basis for believing a crime has been committed”—at least in the Dem Dictionary

      • Amazona December 4, 2020 / 10:39 pm

        In a 2020 version of chutzpah, in an argument in which the Republican representative Binnall said his expert — Jesse Kamzol, a Republican national political data analyst — identified votes by more than 19,000 “non-Nevadans;” nearly 24,000 people who didn’t live where they said they did; more than 1,500 dead voters; and more than 42,000 “double-votes.”

        The Democrat defender responded, presumably with a straight face,
        there was no way to know which candidate received allegedly tainted ballots.

        And then, piling irrelevancy upon absurdity, he went on: He said Binnall’s claims were not specific enough to say who voted twice, what dead people voted or who cast ballots after moving out of state.

        I have a feeling a lot of names and specifics will be produced if the Trump team wins its appeal and this goes to a higher court. The appeals court, however, does not rule on fact, only on whether the law was correctly applied and the judge acted properly.

      • crewman4238 December 4, 2020 / 10:58 pm

        As was reported today, the Trump campaign has spent $8.8 million in its effort to overturn the election, while taking in over $200 million in donations. Maybe that is the real reason for going through this pointless exercise.

      • Amazona December 5, 2020 / 1:28 am

        Ah, more input from the voices in your head. What a paranoid little troll you are, projecting your own rancid ugliness and that of your chosen movement onto others. Another example is your dishonest use of the word “overturn”.

        You never bring anything of value to this blog, instead just using it as a litter box for your mental excrement.

      • Amazona December 5, 2020 / 1:30 am

        “pointless”—in the Dem Dictionary that means caring about the integrity of our electoral process and objecting to having a president who only got the position through fraud and deceit.

        I guess to a certain mindset that does seem pointless, when the only point is gaining power at any cost.

      • Cluster December 5, 2020 / 8:45 am

        “Pointless” is a great way to define the life of a progressive. Their heads are full of climate change and systemic racism garbage and they have simply become weaponized social influencers for the billionaire class all the while thinking they are “sticking it to the man”. It really is a comedy of errors.

      • Amazona December 5, 2020 / 10:52 am

        The thing that is becoming more and more evident is the pathology of those who support the Left. I can’t accurately call them Leftists because they don’t seem to have a coherent political philosophy of considering and then favoring a political system based on consolidation of power in the hands of a few, but they have been drawn to the Left like blowflies to a corpse because the Left offers them validation for their personality disorders. (And then, in the natural course of biology, become maggots feeding on the rotten meat of Leftist doctrine.)

        We used to treat mental illnesses that presented themselves as hatred, bigotry, antagonism, belligerence and rage. Now these personality disorders are what define those who support and enable the American Left. This is where those people have found a home where their innate nastiness is not only tolerated, it is praised and nurtured. This is the base of the Democrat Party. They don’t even try to present or defend policies or political concepts of governance—-they just indulge their fury and hatred, celebrate the ugly and the obscene, promote the degenerate and the rotten and gleefully support the destruction of what is good.

        We see this here on this blog, when trolls invade. When have we ever seen an effort to explain or defend a Leftist policy or philosophy? Never. All we get is a sour surly haters looking for a place to tell other people how awful and despicable they are.

        There is so much information out there, some good and some bad. It is interesting, in a kind of clinical way, to see what these people pick out of the mix. Lying there are nuggets of information about the history of this nation, about the noble and virtuous character of our founding, about the accomplishments of Donald Trump, about the strengths of America and the goodness of most of its people, and so on, but the people I am talking about pick and choose which pieces of information attract them, and for them it is always the ugliest, the most hateful, the nastiest, the most destructive. So they pass on the information about how the lives of Americans got better under a Trump presidency and zero in on anything, no matter how baseless or vicious or vile, that anyone has ever said about him. This kind of negativity is the only thing that attracts them, that appeals to them. Again, back to the maggot reference. Even modern medicine sometimes uses maggots to clear away dead and putrid flesh, because a maggot is not attracted to healthy living flesh but only thrives on what is dead and rotting. So the maggots who comprise the support the Left gets in this country ignore the good and gravitate solely to the fetid stench of the hateful and the corrupt.

        This was made clear during the riots, when these enablers of the Leftist political structure fed in glee on the violence, the anarchy and the destruction of the property and livelihoods of innocent people. And now we see it in the celebration of and defense of the erosion of the most basic and important element of our very nation, that of the destruction of the electoral process by making it wholly subject to fraud and corruption. It’s not that these people truly believe there was no fraud: It’s that they cheer and celebrate the corrupt.

        When we talk about the divide in America these days, I think it is not a divide of politics, or even of culture. I think it is a divide of character.

  18. Cluster December 5, 2020 / 7:48 am

    Here’s someone who speaks to my soul …

    This (Biden Admin) is not something that any freedom-loving American can “get along” with. We need to fight this with every fiber of our beings until there is nothing left to do. Pray; donate; encourage others; sign petitions; send letters; and never, ever give up. As long as Donald Trump has the wherewithal to keep fighting for us, we simply have to fight with him. None of the niceties or platitudes impresses me at all. This is war — not a bloody war, at least not yet, but make no mistake about it: it is war.

    And I particularly loved this …

    Every backstabber, every milquetoast, every liar, every doubter, every Karen, every holier-than-thou, every dictator, every petty tyrant, every creepy globalist, every smarmy billionaire, every patronizing Fox personality, every smug MSM commentator — they all make my blood boil. They motivate me to help Trump take them all down a notch and restore our national pride — not to mention our republic as we know it.

    Amen … and I will add annoying uppity millennials, social media influencers, Ivy League grads, and all their WOKE little puke friends.

  19. Cluster December 5, 2020 / 9:15 am

    Did you know that shopping at Walmart of Target is completely different then shopping at a small business of even going to church? Neither did I but thankfully there are a lot of unimpressive white privileged little boys in the media to set the record straight … remember it’s all about the science.

    There is nothing more pathetic then privileged little white boys and girls who do the bidding of the billionaire class while diminishing society to the lowest common denominator in the name of equality. Right crewboy?

    • Amazona December 5, 2020 / 11:01 am

      Which businesses are thriving during these restrictions on American lives and enterprise? Amazon comes to mind, as people are forced to shop online. This has been a boon to Amazon. Big delivery services like UPS and FedEx are making bank on this “crisis”. Netflix and Hulu.

      Just as the Left is about the consolidation of power in the hands of a few, it is about the same kind of consolidation of riches for a few elites. And whether we are talking about raw power, that of the ability to control peoples’ lives, or about the power of controlling the money in a nation, with the Left it always rises to the top where the elites wallow in it, while those below that level become poorer and less free.

  20. Cluster December 5, 2020 / 9:54 am

    America doesn’t have a systemic racism problem. We have a systemic parenting problem. Or more accurately, a systemic fatherhood problem.

    Dr Dre’s eldest daughter LaTanya Young reveals she has not seen her superstar rapper father in 17 years

    76% off all black children are born into a one parent household. Absent Dads are a huge problem in this country.

  21. Cluster December 5, 2020 / 11:11 am

    …. the Democrat Party. They don’t even try to present or defend policies or political concepts of governance—-they just indulge their fury and hatred, celebrate the ugly and the obscene, promote the degenerate and the rotten and gleefully support the destruction of what is good.

    Best summation of Democrats I’ve ever read.

    • Retired Spook December 5, 2020 / 11:34 am

      Dovetails perfectly with what I said a couple posts below this.

  22. Retired Spook December 5, 2020 / 11:30 am

    A mutual friend of mine and Amazona’s sent me this article about birth tourism. As I was reading it that proverbial lightbulb went off above my head. We talk here about everything that we find repugnant about the political and ideological Left, as well as what it is about Conservatism that is appealing to us, while the Leftists who come here NEVER talk about what they believe that is attractive to them or to the average person for that matter.

    I’m not sure why this particular article acted as a trigger for me, but I suddenly had the thought that the reason Leftists never talk about what is great and good about their ideas is that NONE of their ideas are about making life better for the average American. I think that’s one of the main things Conservatives liked about Trump. Pretty much everything he did was aimed at making life better for the majority of Americans, regardless of whether or not they voted for him, which translated into 10 million more Americans voting for him in 2020 than in 2016.

    Throughout most of my life the ONLY thing that Conservatives and Liberals shared, other than maybe food and music, was the desire that our children have a better life than we did. I’m not sure exactly when that changed, but certainly in the last decade or two. Today there is virtually nothing that unites us in a common cause. And I could live with that if they would let me. If Progressives would learn to mind their own business, it wouldn’t be a perfect solution, but it would be a tolerable one.

    • Amazona December 5, 2020 / 12:05 pm

      Spook, it’s eerie how our minds tend to be in sync This morning while I was getting ready to go back to Normalville (ie: Wyoming, where people make eye contact and smile and talk to each other) I was thinking how conservatism makes the lives of people better, while Leftism makes those lives worse.

      In what way did the lives of Americans improve under 8 years of Obama/Biden? I can’t think of any. Even the lives of (and this has to be said in a booming voice like that of a wrestling match announcer ) PEOPLE OF COLORRRRRRR !!! did not improve, in spite of the racist rhetoric coming out of the White House.

      Under Trump? An average of $6000 a year more in their pockets, more jobs in a wider range of employment, better national security as terrorists were killed off, energy independence due to energy policies which not only created high paying jobs but increased national security, more liberty through plans like the ones allowing some people to use experimental drugs and so on.

      Under Biden/Harris? They promise to undo everything Trump did. Figure it out for yourself. But the lead-in to Biden/Harris has been anarchy, rioting, violence and a corrupt and fraudulent election, which I think are all signs of what is to come

      • Retired Spook December 5, 2020 / 12:22 pm


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