Open Thread

China Joe barely managed to stumble through his “press conference”…where the questions and answers were all rehearsed. Not sure how long they keep him at it – to be sure, his own people want to keep him in as long as possible and Harrris’ people want to wait until 1/21/23 to preserve two-term viability for her…but the man is clearly on borrowed time.

The fact that they are letting BLM and Antifa skate while holding Proud Boys without bail lets you know that the two-tiered justice system is for real. We are second class citizens in our own country. We will have to fix that – but until we do, always have a care what you say and who you say it to. The authorities will railroad people and there are people out there – maybe even among your family and friends – who will report you to the authorities. Don’t get paranoid, but do be careful.

Mayor Pete wants to impose a mileage tax on our cars. There are two reasons for this:

  1. As cars go electric, less gas tax revenue.
  2. The Left hates the fact that we can go wherever we want.

The preferred future for the Left is that we all live in tiny apartments built in high rise buildings in densely packed cities and that we use bicycles or public transport to get around. If this sounds familiar, it is: it is how most Chinese live these days. That is their ideal – though they also want us to stop eating food and switch over to bug paste (I’m not kidding). Remember, they hate the entire idea of owning property or having a private life.

There is starting to be State-level push back against Critical Race Theory. This is good, but also way too late. I first came across the species of thought in the late 1980s and I initially dismissed it as absurd. That was a mistake: these people are serious. The primary component about CRT is that anything opposed to it is by definition racist. It is the perfect vehicle for imposing Marxism – you can’t actually argue against it. So, it must be merely opposed. The best thing we can do is via budgetary control over State colleges. We can’t stop Harvard with its billions from imposing it on students dumb enough to attend…but we can stop the State colleges from imposing it. But even that is just a first step – it must be banned.

Yes, I know: Constitutional issues there. But by hook or by crook, the teaching of Critical Race Theory must be made a crime in the United States. It is that pernicious. We have learned that it was a mistake to allow Marxism access to the American body politic. It must be exiled to the fringes as much as Nazism and Fascism have been. Ultimately, we cannot be secure in our lives, liberties and property as long as Critical Race Theory is considered morally licit.

A bronze statue of Greta Thunberg is to be erected at a UK university, and it is causing all sorts of outrage. But do understand what this is for: they are tearing down the old statues (it happens in the UK, too – pretty much every hero of Britain’s past is on the path to being cancelled) and erecting statues to the new heroes. This is common after the Revolution – and though it took decades, the entire West fell to the Revolution. This is something that everyone has to get into their minds: you are no longer defending. You lost. You are now counter-attacking. This is counter-revolution. We are trying to undo what’s been done and restore (at least in part) what was before.

55 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona March 27, 2021 / 3:32 pm

    I’m not sure there is much difference between “Biden people” and “Harris people” except who gets which offices and who gets to fly on the big plane. But at heart they are all marionettes in the same lineup with the same people pulling their strings, and they will all dance to the same masters.

  2. Amazona March 27, 2021 / 4:07 pm

    At my lunch yesterday I got some validation for my theory that what we need to do is work on state legislatures and local governments. Who’s pushing back against the power grabs of the Left? Congress? No, it’s governors.

    We need to make sure we have strong, committed state legislatures and governors, while Congress goes through its kabuki theater melodramas. Sure, we need to get good people in Congress, but equally if not more important we need to have true leadership at the state level.

    Leaders like DeSantis, leaders like Noem. She has the intelligence to actually read the bill she is debating and understand its nuances and trip wires, and she has the backbone to stand up to the jackals trying to tear her down.

    I say it is time for countermeasures. They want to add two states? We can fight that and stay on defense, or we can say “Great idea—but it doesn’t go far enough” and then explain how what we really need to do is add ten more states. Give them PR and DC, but then divide California into three states so the population centers can’t keep riding roughshod over the rest of the state, carve out Eastern Colorado and the Nebraska Panhandle to make a new state so those rural areas are not dominated by distant cities like Denver and Lincoln, slice off Washington and Oregon east of the mountains to make a new state there, give Illinois citizens some representation by freeing them from the dominance (and corruption) of Chicago, acknowledge that Manhattan does not truly represent most of New York State but still has the power. Get some balance back into our representation instead of handing all the power over to the cities. Michigan and Minnesota are dealing with the same issues—the Leftist cities bossing around the rural and industrial areas.

    Just imagine the panic and hysteria among the Lefties in Congress if this were to be presented to them.

    While they are fussing about that, go after our educational system, particularly the teachers’ unions. Mount a major push for school vouchers and explain why, using words like “indoctrination” a lot, and loudly. Hit ’em where it hurts—their finances.

    And start an alternative to the NCAA—not my idea, I read it somewhere. But if half the states said they were going with a new, different, athletic organization that would allow them to make their own rules about men competing with women, that would help women’s sports and hurt the NCAA financially.

    Swamp this wildly Leftist Congress with legal challenges to every overreach they try. Telling states how they have to run their elections? Not Constitutional, so fight it. On the border of Constitutional? Fight it.

    In the meantime, we might even have a loud voice in the media, if Trump comes through with his promise of a new media outlet.

    Come ON, man!

  3. Jeremiah March 27, 2021 / 11:19 pm

    Hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday

  4. Cluster March 28, 2021 / 9:17 am

    We will have to fix that – but until we do, always have a care what you say and who you say it to. The authorities will railroad people and there are people out there – maybe even among your family and friends – who will report you to the authorities. Don’t get paranoid, but do be careful.

    Maybe some strongly worded letter arguing the virtues of Constitutional governance will help. /sarc. So now you’re advising us to be “careful” what we say???? I don’t think so. In fact that will never happen with me.

    There are simply just too many emasculated men and emotionally challenged women in charge of our country and they need to be removed. And as a result, I think too many conservatives suffer from battered wife syndrome and we had better wake the F**K up …. real quick. It’s not time to be careful what we say … It’s actually time for real men with real balls to take charge. The feminization of our country needs to end.

    Systemic racism is non existent
    Climate change is a joke
    Covid is a LIE
    BLM is a communist front group
    Antifa needs to be violently eliminated
    And Mexican Cartels now control our southern border

    And it’s time we all say these things out loud and in public and be prepared to defend it. Don’t ever wear a mask again, that’s simply a sign of submission. Don’t ever be friends with a Democrat and end the current friendships you do have. Don’t do business with Democrats, don’t invite them to any fun occasion or party, ostracize them publicly at every opportunity, mock them, ridicule them, and then ignore them. And when needed, make them fear for their life. They are empty, soulless vessels with zero Faith, so their empty, meager lives are what they worship … make them question their existence when possible. In other words, make them uncomfortable every chance you get. I am no longer interested in winning “hearts and minds” or being careful what I say. It’s time to take control.

    Democrats are feminist FASCISTS …. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

    • Retired Spook March 28, 2021 / 9:50 am

      Geez, Cluster, tell us how you really feel. Actually, I feel pretty much the same way, and I don’t think the Democrats are calculating on tens of millions of us reacting this way.

      • Cluster March 28, 2021 / 10:24 am

        Spook you have no idea what’s going on at our southern border. It’s all out war and I am told that by two good men who work the border everyday and they are over whelmed. Cartels are now making more money by human trafficking then they are with drugs and the result is violent chaos, and the women and children suffer the most. In fact, 80%+ of all women and girls making the trek up north are RAPED by piece of shit men. And this is a direct result of too many emotionally challenged, entitled, little American girls and the men who they have effectively emasculated. Real, God fearing MEN need to stand up and take control.

        Did you see the poor 66 year old who was killed yesterday because two entitled little POS girls wanted his car??


      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 11:29 am

        Maybe someone (Peter Doocy?) should ask Cackles Harris how much of that billion dollars going into Central America will pay for warning women that if they, or their daughters, head for the United States border there is an 8 out of 10 chance they will be raped. Probably repeatedly. And maybe end up as sex slaves, sold by the cartels.

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 11:32 am

        Did you see the poor 66 year old who was killed yesterday because two entitled little POS girls wanted his car??

        But, you see, because the girls are black, and the car overturned while they were trying to steal it, the man’s death was just an “accident”. OK, so they had killed him by crashing his body into various obstacles first, but you gotta protect the narrative.

    • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 11:23 am

      Systemic racism is non existent
      Climate change is a joke
      Covid is a LIE
      BLM is a communist front group
      Antifa needs to be violently eliminated
      And Mexican Cartels now control our southern border

      That’s a good start on a list of reasons the nation is in a death spiral. You forgot the international front, like pushing our two biggest national opponents, China and Russia, into uniting against us. And you didn’t even address the border situation, which goes beyond handing over control to criminal cartels and also covers violation of our national immigration laws, importing vast numbers of people with infectious diseases into the country, encouraging human trafficking and enabling sex trafficking including that of children and the human rights abuse of encouraging people to risk their lives to travel to the border.

      Then there is the effort to destroy our entire electoral system by turning it into a mere parody of an election, where anyone can vote at any time anywhere with no proof of identity, no proof of citizenship and no way to track how often he has voted.

      Don’t forget the systemic crippling of our economy. People in coal mining areas are just walking away from their homes, knowing that the mines will be closed within months. Oil and gas exploration are nearly dead. Fuel prices are skyrocketing, which hits lower and middle class people hardest and will soon be reflected in higher prices for everything that includes material transported by trucks and finished product, including food, that is delivered by trucks.

      And, of course, the blatant power grab of trying to ensure that this will become a one-party nation.

      Evidently the answer to all of this is to sneer (falsely) that some believe the solution is to merely write “… a strongly worded letter arguing the virtues of Constitutional governance….” and to stomp around demanding some unspecified form of “action”, preferably involving some kind of armament.

      Oh, and to holler “It’s time to take control.

      OK. How? The cartels are in your back yard. Go control them. You know where antifa raises its ugly head. Go control them.

      But the fact is, every other problem listed (and to some extent the cartels and antifa as well) are POLITICAL problems, that can’t be “controlled” with guns or fury.

      Right now the political division in this country is undergoing a shift, as many of the approximately 50% of voters who enabled this rapid descent into Venezuelism are starting to realize they made a mistake While the Impotent Rage faction fantasizes about storming some opposition stronghold, somehow, somewhere, the support for the things mentioned here is eroding, and becoming more and more encapsulated into discrete (not “discreet”) and often conflicting bubbles. The gender fragmentation has its artificial gender constructs now mad at each other, the attacks on Title 9 sports as one example. The unions are realizing they cut off a lot of their structure by voting for the system that kills jobs. The indoctrinators (“teachers”) are alienating the very people they need to survive as parents are getting fed up with them and looking for alternatives to what has passed for public education. The Covid panic is backfiring as it has led to, among other things, the realization that the ways we have always done business can be changed, and this will affect a lot of the power base that supports the Left. (Remote working means people can live outside the outrageously expensive Leftist hives of San Francisco and NYC, meaning their money will go wherever they set up their computers and they will no longer add to the tax base, population count, etc. of those Leftist enclaves.) Control of Congress is precarious—-it consists of nine people. NINE PEOPLE! Eight Representatives in a House that is committing political suicide (if we can put together a conservative action plan that hands it a rope) and one Senator are the very thin line between a one party Leftist rule and a slow return to Constitutional governance.

      And so on. The pendulum is swinging, and while we can help it gain momentum we also have to be careful to stay out of its way and not impede its arc (as the well-meaning but foolishly enthusiastic Trump supporters did on January 6).

      It may be emotionally gratifying to believe that only those stridently demanding some kind of violent dramatic (yet nonspecific ) “action” are the only ones who see the problems, More to the point, that they are the only ones who want to “DO SOMETHING” about them. But that fantasy is, simply, delusional. There are people who have a much better grasp of the situation(s) and a much more detailed and comprehensive plan of action than the “Just wanna kick butt” faction.

      And once again I point out that it was the hyper-emotional acting-out of unfocused rage that played so thoroughly into the hands of the Left on January 6.

      • Cluster March 28, 2021 / 11:43 am

        And once again I point out that it was the hyper-emotional acting-out of unfocused rage that played so thoroughly into the hands of the Left on January 6

        That’s because people like you allow them to control the narrative. The only thing wrong that happened on January 6 was that a Federal police officer killed an innocent woman. Aside from that, there was nothing wrong with the American people showing their rage towards the ruling class … and they were actually well behaved in my opinion.

        With some due respect, your solution is a little like trying to save the Titanic by rearranging the deck chairs. The type of “people who have a better grasp of the situation” as you just characterize it, is exactly the same people who the Left has been walking all over the last 5 decades, so please spare me the lecture. This type of conservatism has LOST.

        The pendulum is swinging?? Sure about that? Throughout history, when has the pendulum ever naturally swung towards individual freedom and liberty?

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 3:22 pm

        Yeah, people like me. Sorry, but I think my grasp on the narrative is a little/lot more focused than yours. It is certainly quite contrary to the one we hear from the Left and squishy Republicans.

        But you just go ahead blustering and stomping and muttering about SOMETHING MUST BE DONE while people work on actually doing something. Of course, what they are doing isn’t as melodramatic and macho as posturing about looking forward to a shooting war. It’s the kind of boring grown-up analysis and problem solving some people do while others howl and mutter and make threats.

        The only thing wrong that happened on January 6 ….. was that a bunch of hyper-emotional people failed to understand that the energy generated and expressed at a political rally was not only not appropriate as an approach to Congress, it was one that could be (and was) manipulated by the Left to condemn Trump and his supporters and the whole movement. At the time many members of Congress were seriously considering ways to address the rampant fraud of this election the efforts to bully, intimidate and pressure them backfired and set up a situation where if they did act to delay certification they would appear to have been intimidated by a mob.

        There is absolutely no way that surging into the Capitol building, with or without the assistance of one or two or more officers, could possibly be productive. It was stupid. It was reckless. And it was damaging. These thoughtless people handed the Left a narrative on a silver platter, a narrative that is now being dismantled a little bit at a time but which has done its damage.

        But it sure felt good. And it’s all about the feels

        This is what happens when emotions take over thought. This is what happens when anger and frustration overcome strategy. Ted Cruz and his crew went into that chamber with a strong, coherent and persuasive argument that would have made it easy for members of Congress to compromise between the two warring factions and grant a ten-day delay in which an investigation could have taken place. The morons who were governed by some goofball conviction that “a show of strength” (or whatever they thought they were doing) would convince already-skittish Congress to take huge political risks basically sabotaged the entire thing and are responsible, in my mind, for the subsequent rush to just certify the official counts.

        There was no “only thing that went wrong on January 6”. There was nothing that went right.
        There was a series of things that went wrong, starting with the ego-driven need of Trump to show Congress how much support he had all the way down to the idiocy of Trump supporters illegally swarming into the halls of Congress at any time, much less during a crucial discussion and vote. In between those things that went wrong was the utter cluelessness of the fact that this kind of thing would be a gift that never stopped giving to the Left, allowing them to portray it in the most sinister and ominous terms possible. All these people saw, and sought, was the immediate gratification of expressing themselves, with no thought to the consequences of the way they chose to do it.

        “…there was nothing wrong with the American people showing their rage towards the ruling class …” Well, yes there was, and yes there is. If you saw this mob mentality as a justified exhibition of “rage towards the ruling class” then you have a very different perspective than the one presented by those who were there, and it would be hard to find a worse time or place to exhibit such rage. The people who were there said they just wanted to show support for the belief that Trump was being cheated out of the presidency. I don’t remember a single person who was there claiming some sweeping overriding intent to “show rage towards the ruling class” but if that is how YOU saw it, and how YOU justify it, well that is certainly consistent with your focus on even more virtue signaling of “strength” or whatever it is you think demanding “action” is supposed to represent. You might go back and read my post on cognitive dissonance and the emotional basis for acting on rage and frustration and the sense that SOMETHING MUST BE DONE without regard to whether the “something” will be more effective than just making someone FEEL better.

        “showing their rage towards the ruling class ” has a certain French Revolution taste to it, which goes along with justifying violence and mob rule.

        The type of “people who have a better grasp of the situation” as you just characterize it, is exactly the same people who the Left has been walking all over the last 5 decades, so please spare me the lecture. In other words, you are not paying attention. But that’s OK. You have the perspective you need to justify the emotions you feel. I’m seeing a new breed of strong fighters who not only have a clear concept of the enemy they have a clear concept of how to undermine it and hopefully cripple it. Sadly, they have to deal with hysterics like the ones who blew up the strategy of January 6. They have to play catch-up because you are right, the Left HAS been walking all over the Right for decades. Playing by the Left’s rules is not the way to reverse this, though.

      • Cluster March 28, 2021 / 9:19 pm

        Oh you have a grasp alright and you are focused, the problem is … you’re also highly ineffective. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if any of those brilliant conservative strategies over the last 20 years had any lasting impact. And you also worry a lot about what the Left will do, or how they will react. Why? Who gives a F**K what they do. That is a defensive posture and wars are never won from a defensive posture so stop worrying about what the left is going to do. They are parasites.

        And just an FYI in your rush to blame Trump and his unsavory supporters, the chaos at the Capital was preplanned and Antifa was a large part of it … so lose the moral high ground

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 10:06 pm

        Yes, I know that Antifa and other Leftists planned the Capitol riot ahead of time. Duh. I also know that Trump did not encourage his followers to break the law. However, I also know that it was the very presence of tens of thousands of amped-up Trump supporters that made the Leftist strategy POSSIBLE, made it so easy to create the false but damaging narrative and made it so easy to smear Trump and his supporters. And I know it was easily led Trump supporters making very bad decisions who let themselves be caught up in the trap set by the Left and become part of the problem.

        I did not say “unsavory”. Don’t try to amplify what I said so you can be more offended.

        Yes, I am not effective. Who knew that a retired Western rancher could not change the political trajectory of the United States? But what I CAN do, and am learning that some conservatives at least are doing the same thing, is analyze what we have done wrong and try to start implementing better strategies.

        Hey, maybe there is room for people like you in the shift from passive pseudo-conservatives to committed Constitutional conservatives who will fight the Left. Wouldn’t that be special. But I predict that the successes will come from the analytical and focused who can fight the Left with tools that are strategic and weapons that don’t go boom.

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 10:28 pm

        And you also worry a lot about what the Left will do, or how they will react.

        In a series of remarkably overheated rhetoric this stands out because it is so irredeemably ridiculous. Maybe it’s time to stop listening to the voices in your head.

      • Cluster March 28, 2021 / 11:15 pm

        Well anyway, I don’t come here often any longer because I really have nothing more to say. You know where I stand and I am one that thinks endless talk absent constructive action is pointless. And it’s a matter of fact that the conservative agenda has lost ground every year since 1989. What conservatives have only been effective at is slowing down the decline and 2020 proved that a new strategy is needed. And I don’t think we should be relying on the current GOP.

      • Amazona March 29, 2021 / 10:31 am

        …endless talk absent constructive action is pointless….” and I absolutely agree. That is why I am working with some grass-roots people under the radar to, essentially, rebuild the foundation of strong state governments which have been allowed to erode and often become mere local entities with little or no authority at the national level. But this is the level that controls the schools, and this is where strong state legislatures can make a difference in national legislation, in asserting state sovereignty, in refusing to enforce illegal edicts from tyrants in the White House.

        Who is fighting the Left now? A couple of governors, that’s who. Who are standing up the mask mandate? Governors. Who are fighting the shutdown of oil and gas permits? Governors. Who are providing true LEADERSHIP? Governors. Not many, but some. And it’s easier to elect a governor than it is a president.

        Who controlled the outcome of the national election? It should have been state governments, but the legislatures had no leadership and most didn’t even understand what they were supposed to be doing. I’m not talking about the votes themselves, but that they were improperly certified because not one of those questionable state legislatures could say with the slightest degree of certainty who got how many votes. Those states needed strong governors who could and would call those legislatures in and tell them, in no uncertain terms, that their jobs and duties and LEGAL responsibility was not to blindly rubber-stamp a number given to them but to determine that the number was accurate, and if they could not do that then they could not certify the total. Not to say who should or should not have gotten the votes, but that there was no way to know, and therefore the total could not be certified as presented. That would have been leadership, that should have come from the governors, and that’s the kind of influence a governor can and should have.

        Who could be/should be kicking butt right now in those states and prosecuting the legislatures for the Class 3 felony of false certification, to send a message to them and other states that certification of votes is a serious business with legal ramifications, not just a rubber stamp or political agenda-promoting? The Attorneys General in those states. But who pays attention to who is AG? From now on, a lot more people will be.

        It is a lot easier to get involved, and a lot easier to make a difference, at the state and local level. We have been programmed to think it is all about the feds, to the point that even people who truly believe in the Constitution and its delegation of powers have still allowed themselves to shift their focus to the national stage. That is changing, and that IS “constructive action”. It may be the MOST constructive action, because three years of ferociously building strong state governments in key states will provide a rock solid foundation for a conservative president who is either Trump or in the Trump mold of simultaneously dismantling the structures of Leftist power and demanding that Congress reassume its duties of legislation.

        I have a visual mind, so I have always seen the intended structure of our government as a pyramid, with the broad base of true power gradually narrowing as the authority diminishes until at the top is the president, with his or her limited power as the head of the Executive Branch. But the power and authority flow upward. We have allowed ourselves to mentally turn that concept upside down and accept a system in which the power is concentrated at the top and flows downward, being diluted to the point where, when it reaches the people, it is nearly nonexistent.

        We can start to shift the direction of power by taking back our state and local governments, and our school boards. That’s not as sexy as the presidency or Congress, but it really is where the power lies, or should lie, and is the easier target. Just because you are focused on the point of the pyramid doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot going on in the other levels, and what is going on IS constructive, focused and determined.

        And that will translate into meaningful support for those closer to the top of the pyramid, people like Ted Cruz and Jim Jordan and Tom Cotton. You envision a party of whimpering weaklings peeing down their legs and asking for permission from their Leftist masters to exist, but my vision is one of millions of Lauren Boeberts—ordinary people fighting for what is right and not taking no for an answer.

        You know, there were elaborate plans to end the war by invading Germany through Normandy and, if necessary, dropping nuclear bombs on Japan. Just because most people didn’t know about those plans didn’t mean they weren’t being developed and put into action. So just because YOU don’t know what other people are doing doesn’t mean nothing is being done.

      • Cluster March 28, 2021 / 9:40 pm

        I will also say that Trump is the only man* who unapologetically spoke up for, and defended America and the American way of life for EVERY AMERICAN. And anyone who takes cheap shots at him and his supporters is simply cowering to a mob mentality with a hint of virtue signaling. Unflattering to say the least.

        * I will note there are a few others, DeSantis, Gates, Hawley, and Cruz are notable. Sadly I think Kristi Noem recently cowered to the mob.

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 10:21 pm

        There you go—if you can’t argue what was said then just invent something you can snarl about. I am an ardent Trump supporter and defender. That does not mean I think he has always been right, always made the best decisions, always been perfect. But then I am not a fan club kind of person. I have never swooned over something someone has said and rushed to the blog to gush “(blank) SHOULD BE PRESIDENT !!!!!” (Like Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Nikki Haley or any other Flavor of the Month that has revved your motor.)

        Acknowledging an error in judgment is not the same thing as taking cheap shots—not like inventing something never said so it can be attacked. He made a mistake in judgment thinking that tens of thousands of people chanting outside the halls of Congress would sway what was going on inside. He made an error in judgment thinking that what worked at campaign rallies would work in a totally different situation. The few followers who got sucked into the passions of the moment and for some reason thought it was a good idea to wander through the halls of Congress collecting souvenirs and taking selfies of themselves in private office were acting like morons. Sorry if you identify with them. Not my problem. Maybe decent people on most days but morons on January 6.

        THAT was the mob mentality that did so much harm to Trump and his cause—-and created the big brush that was then applied to Trump supporters who were not fanboi hysterics out there out-emoting the Left.

        But kudos for the default snap to ad hominem insults. It took completely reframing what I said and arbitrarily assigning meaning that was not really present as well as completely ignoring everything I have posted but you carried it off. Probably had a lot of practice a that kind of “discourse”.

      • Amazona March 28, 2021 / 10:22 pm

        Sadly I think Kristi Noem recently cowered to the mob.

        Tossing that “mob” word around pretty casually, aren’t you? Try reading her reasoning for her very thoughtful and very appropriate decision instead of going for the knee jerk CNN version of what she said.

      • jdge1 March 30, 2021 / 10:12 am

        From what I’ve read it seems she has 2 primary concerns with the bill as it was presented to her.

        1.) “unworkable administrative burden[s] on schools” by forcing them to require yearly forms proving sex, age and lack of “performance-enhancing drugs.”

        Sadly, drug testing is a part of competitive sports at most levels these days so this shouldn’t be much of an issue. Proving age is easy. Not sure what constitutes “proof” of sex but it would seem that once that is done, since your sex doesn’t change that proof would remain a constant throughout your life.

        2.) ”But most notably, she rejected their calls for bans at the collegiate level, telling lawmakers it could mean South Dakota athletes lose out in national tournaments, as the NCAA has inclusion policies for transgender student athletes.”

        So what. If the NCAA has a policy that infringes on fairness to (real) females, then it certainly should be ignored, regardless of the impact on national tournament participation. Perhaps states should challenge the NCAA in court. This is certainly not a go-along-to-get along policy the NCAA is trying to normalize. The fact that many states are enacting similar bills would supposedly put them all at risk of NCAA sanctioned national tournament participation. I don’t imagine that would bode well to the NCAA’s finances and put them in a difficult position to justify the lack of fairness to women, especially if this went to court.

      • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 12:43 pm

        Noem is playing the cards on the table re: the NCAA, not what could happen or what might happen. Yes, the NCAA can be replaced, and it is looking like it might. But her job is to protect her people now, not allow them to be damaged while hoping that somehow somewhere some rules will be changed. Instead she is acting, using a currently popular phrase, “the point of the spear”. And for this she is being excoriated by the predictable Left and some “conservatives” who haven’t read the bill or analyzed her position.

        Every movement starts with someone breaking out of the pack and setting a precedent and providing leadership for others.

        As for “proof of sex” that is a phrase that leaves open a multitude of legal challenges which could bankrupt a small state while keeping women’s sports in a legal limbo. Skip the birth certificate, do a quick chromosome test and make the outcome part of the permanent record and move on, don’t have to redo this every year on some government “form” that will undoubtedly, given the track record of government, become longer and more complex every year. Birth dates don’t change, and as you say drug testing is already here, though hormone therapy might be added to “performance enhancing” drugs depending on who gets to decide.

      • Retired Spook March 30, 2021 / 10:28 am

        Perhaps states should challenge the NCAA in court.

        Kristi Noem was on Glenn Beck’s radio show after her contentious interview with Tucker Carlson. The way she explained it was that her legal advisers told her she would likely lose a court confrontation with the NCAA as a small, individual state, and she decided the best way forward was to begin to build a coalition of like-minded governors so that any court action against the NCAA would include multiple states, giving them more leverage. It’s going to be interesting to see who blinks first.

      • Cluster March 30, 2021 / 11:46 am

        Rather than worry about what the courts will do, how about if we all just stop living the lie of transgenderism? Mentally ill men who think they are women, should be institutionalized, period. Stop validating the lie.

      • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 12:45 pm

        You first. Pay your own legal fees, lose your own business and maybe serve your own time in lockup.

        The rest of us will work to dismantle this legally to protect everyone else.

      • Retired Spook March 30, 2021 / 12:42 pm

        Rather than worry about what the courts will do, how about if we all just stop living the lie of transgenderism?

        The problem is that the support structure for these largely mentally ill people has grown exponentially in the last 5 years. In the government and in many large corporations they control hiring and firing. It’s invading the military like an out of control freight train. It’s yet another example of everything the Left touches turns to sh*t.

      • jdge1 March 30, 2021 / 11:04 pm

        I agree Spook. I read that over 24 states have introduced similar bills and imagine others will follow as well. I also read that a federal judge blocked at least one state in their effort to ban biological males from competing in female sports. Guess this has to go through the process. No idea where it will ultimately end. Greater division probably.

        As for sex determination it seems a relatively easy answer for most,… not so much for a few. It seems about 1 in 4,500 children are born with a condition once called intersex. A term that many today consider a poor choice of descriptions. This category includes people with only an X chromosome, people with an XXY set of chromosomes, people with XXXY set of chromosomes and some with their testicles hidden inside. At one point the presence of testicles was the determining factor. Unfortunately, those born with their testes inside their bowel area were originally thought to be female until some point later in life. In those situations doctors use to recommend removing the testes for fear of infection and continue to treat that person as female. That answer was accepted by most parents rather than deal with the complexities and questions from society. Interestingly those children for the most part seem to adapt well to continuing in the female role. Not sure where I’d place them in this question of sports participation.

        Without going into these unique situations, or maybe even considering them, many suggested the presence of the Y chromosome be the sole determining factor. Those with only 1 X chromosome would be considered female. Those with XXY or XXXY would be considered male. Those born with testicles inside themselves, if they have the Y chromosomes would be considered male. Not sure how I’d feel being in a boy’s locker room without any visual male genitalia.

      • jdge1 March 30, 2021 / 11:07 pm

        ”Noem is playing the cards on the table re: the NCAA, not what could happen or what might happen. Yes, the NCAA can be replaced, and it is looking like it might. But her job is to protect her people now, not allow them to be damaged while hoping that somehow somewhere some rules will be changed.”

        What people would she be protecting if the bill were changed to allow biological males to compete in female sports at the collegiate level? Certainly not the true females. They would be the big losers. To give an example of just how much consider this.

        At the 1988 U.S. Olympic Trials, Florence Griffith Joyner established a women’s world record of 10.49 seconds in the 100-meter dash that no one has come close to touching ever since. In 2018, 127 US high school male sprinters beat her record.

        Just in the single year 2017, Olympic, World, and U.S. Champion Tori Bowie’s 100 meters lifetime best of 10.78 was beaten 15,000 times by men and boys.

        The same is true of Olympic, World, and U.S. Champion Allyson Felix’s 400 meters lifetime best of 49.26. Just in the single year 2017, men and boys around the world outperformed her more than 15,000 times.

      • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 10:18 am

        Are you saying Noem is asking that the bill be rewritten to allow men to compete against women?

        Can you support that?

        And do you really think that Noem, and people like me, are unaware of the advantage biological males have over females in sports? Do you really think we need your research to understand the problem?

        Give the woman some space to try to work this out instead of snapping to instant judgment based on “news” reports and analyses. Sheesh

      • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 10:30 am

        Governor Kristi Noem
        ·Mar 29

        Only girls should play girls’ sports. Given the legislature’s failure to accept my proposed revisions to HB 1217, I am immediately signing two executive orders to address this issue: one to protect fairness in K-12 athletics, and another to do so in college athletics.

        Governor Kristi Noem
        ·Mar 29
        Additionally, I will be working with legislative leaders to schedule a special legislative session in late May or early June. The special session will address this important issue, as well others (medicinal marijuana and the latest federal spending package.)

        South Dakota state Rep. Fred Deutsch, a Republican who has been in the middle of negotiations, tells me in a phone interview that he has mixed feelings on Noem’s decision to change her mind.

        “Regarding the executive orders, it’s positive in one way that it keeps a foot in the door. She wants to call special sessions. I think it shows a genuine concern for doing something, but we definitely want to have a bill,” he says.

        She says she acted on legal advice. She says she is trying to find a way to protect the people of her state, particularly female athletes, in a way that does not expose the state to legal action. Some understand this: some dismiss it. I’m disappointed by the eagerness to attack her on this issue.

      • Retired Spook March 31, 2021 / 11:38 am

        Some understand this: some dismiss it. I’m disappointed by the eagerness to attack her on this issue.

        I agree. I think too many Conservatives have already thrown in the towel on this issue, and assume, based on the velocity of the trans movement and the ramifications of the cancel culture, that there is no chance of ever winning in court. And, with that attitude, they’re probably right.

      • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 2:49 pm

        Risk assessment is an important element of leadership and anyone who has experienced the near-total lack of justice or even reason in the judicial system is wise to avoid becoming entangled in it if at all possible. It’s not a matter of giving up because of a negative attitude or fear but of objective analysis of the situation and the propensity of the opposition to use its well-funded attorneys and Leftist judges to beat a state into submission.

        Noem has made her position clear as well as her intent to try to navigate the shoals of protecting female athletes without bankrupting her state by getting it stuck in a years-long legal battle. I suspect that this stalling tactic is providing time to recruit other states and maybe even create an alternative to the NCAA

        I say kudos to her for seeing the inherent risks of being herded into an immediate decision and for having the backbone to stick to her guns in spite of all the noise made on both sides about what she is doing.

      • jdge1 March 31, 2021 / 5:28 pm

        ”Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) says she won’t sign a bill banning trans women from participating in college women’s sports: “The NCAA is a private association … they will likely take punitive action against us.”

        Should the NCAA take punitive action against the state, “we could sue them,” the governor said, adding, “but these respected legal scholars inform me that we would likely lose.”

        As a result, Noem recommended restricting the bill to elementary and secondary school athletics, and eliminating the section on college sports.”

        Prior to her signing the 2 related EO’s, she explicitly stated she wanted the portion of the bill put forth to her relating to protecting women in collegiate sports taken out so SD wouldn’t have to deal with litigation from the NCAA. That’s why I made the statement I did. I’ve been trying to find more exact information to discern how the bill and her EO’s differ as it relates to dealing with the NCAA.

      • jdge1 March 31, 2021 / 8:38 pm

        ”And do you really think that Noem, and people like me, are unaware of the advantage biological males have over females in sports? Do you really think we need your research to understand the problem?”

        Though on the surface this conversation may appear to be between the few who posts on this blog, in reality there is likely a much larger audience here. The information I stated was not meant to insult your intelligence or Gov. Noem’s. It was given to provide some perspective as to how big the problem is, especially for those who may not fully grasp the extent of what’s being discuss. When you stated; ”But her job is to protect her people now…”, I questioned, if she doesn’t sign the bill how this protecting collegiate women, something she saw in the bill as a sticking point (see previous post)? Again, this was all prior to her signing the 2 EO’s. It appears she is in a difficult spot with repercussions if she does or if she doesn’t, where harm will fall on various groups within her responsibility depending on her choice of action. Protecting one group by not signing the bill will in effect harm another group. Since then, she has signed 2 EO’s. Without the details it’s difficult to ascertain how they differ from the bill and how it prevents the NCAA from proceeding in litigation that she had concern about, if any.

      • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 10:52 pm

        I agree that a lot of people read this blog without participating—-though I wish they would. And I also take on some things not because I think my opinion will matter to the person I’m disagreeing with but because I think the issue should be developed in more depth, and/or should not be allowed to stand unchallenged as if it represents the opinions or values of others on the blog.

        None of us have all the details regarding Noem’s decision or how she was advised or what her long term strategy is, so all we are doing is armchair quarterbacking with a partial playbook and we’re not even sure who put it together. And you know what? I may end up not fully agreeing with her—but I will not question her integrity or her commitment. I have trouble staying out of the weeds on some personal and much less complex calculations and decisions —– I can’t even imagine the stress of having to navigate the various pressures from so many directions, involving so many consequences, with the public looking over her shoulder and carping on everything she does before it has even fully played out.

  5. Cluster March 30, 2021 / 8:46 am

    Awfully quiet around here lately. I think everyone is in shell shock, as you should be. The reason is because we are all living in a world of lies. Systemic racism, climate change, Covid, voter suppression, immigration, police brutality, gun violence, the January 6 “insurrection”, etc., etc., are all agenda driven LIES and every single one of those issues dominates our lives everyday. You can not escape the dishonesty and the fascism of the current Democrat party and they will not relent. No piece of legislation will stop them, and any Governor’s actions will simply be stop gaps to their eventual march towards universal mail in voting, eliminating the filibuster, one party rule and total control.

    And yet even today we find many of our compatriots on the right validating these lies by simply repeating them and trying to adopt strategies to combat them … and that’s simply a futile act. Playing by their rules, which they control will never bring about victory.The Democrats are the ones engaged in an insurrection, they are systematically changing this country and we continue to play by their rules hoping one day we just might win.

    The way out is messy, confrontational, and will take time but I’m afraid our feminized, instant gratification culture has emasculated too many men who prefer to wear skinny jeans, post their latest selfie on social media and virtue signal on how much they care about everything rather then secure their God given rights for their children. That’s assuming they still have enough testosterone to reproduce … which Democrats will probably try and regulate too.

    • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 11:42 am

      I think one reason it is quiet goes back to the warning “Be careful what you wish for”. The Left, and some claiming to be on the Right, fervently wished to have Trump gone. They dedicated their political lives to this. They obsessed about it, they pursued this goal as actively and passionately as they ever pursued any other.

      And then they got their wish.

      But what came along with that wish were Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and what passes for Executive Branch governance in their uniquely dysfunctional dumpster fire of an administration. The leaders of the Left, the true ideologues, got what THEY wanted—–a compliant meat puppet soon to be replaced by an equally compliant but symbolic WOMAN. Not just a WOMAN but a WOMAN OF COLOR. But that’s not what the majority of their voters wanted. The majority of Dem voters are not ideologues, don’t even know what the ideology of the Left IS. They just gorged on the TDS fed to them and all they wanted was NotTrump.

      And most of the people who just wanted NotTrump didn’t know, or care very much, about what was offered as his replacement. Blinded by Identity Politics fury guided by the Agenda Media, they had only one goal, and were pretty oblivious to the poison pill tucked into the package.

      So here we are, where they always wanted to be. And suddenly there is silence because the controllers of most of the voices in this country are faced with the harsh reality that they simply can’t talk about what they have done. What, exactly, can the Agenda Media talk about these days, without Trump?

      Lord love ’em, they are trying. They have invented a big War On Asians “crisis” they can blame on Trump but it’s only sucking in the Usual Suspects, the bottom 1% who lick the bottom of the slop trough the Left fills up every day. But the rest of their job is to ignore and/or deny what they have created, and that means a lot of dead air.

      What can they say?

      “We’re not really flooding the country with sick kids separated by Biden policies from their families after piling them on top of each other in cages.”

      “We’re not really working to enrich the wealth and power of drug cartels by giving them an alternate source of billions of dollars of revenue by opening up our borders.”

      “We’re really not contributing to the human rights atrocities of human trafficking, sex slavery, institutionalized rape, and separation of families.”

      “We’re not really undermining national security by making it easier for enemies of the United States to enter the country with malicious intent.”

      “We’re not really endangering the national security of our country by weakening it in every metric, from economically to politically to the arena of international relations while simultaneously encouraging increasing closeness between our two biggest and most dangerous international opponents.”

      “We’re not really gutting our own economy by shutting down all fossil fuel exploration and extraction, putting hundreds of thousands of people out of work and causing all fuel prices to skyrocket.”

      “We’re not really destroying women’s sports at every level by forcing them to compete with men.”

      And so on. “We’re not really” doesn’t provide for much in the way of news so all we are getting is warmed-up leftovers from the days when the media had something to talk about even when they had to lie to do it. And Trump has learned the valuable lesson of when to just shut up, so he has left them spinning in circles frantically trying to resurrect that wonderful energy that had people tuning in to see what new revelation they had. Now they’ve got nothing, and they don’t have that energy.

      We need to understand that the same Agenda Media who got us into this situation and are now having to deal with the consequences are also not talking about what is being done to correct the problem. How foolish to believe that if the action people on the Right were DOING SOMETHING !!! Don Lemon would be telling us about it. If they lied to get what they wanted they will continue to lie to try to keep it, and believing their spin on what is happening is silly no matter what it is.

      We did not get where we are overnight, and we aren’t going to get out of it quickly either.

      There are certain things not even the Dems can do, at least not until they have mounted a real coup and officially taken over the nation. Right now they are on the cusp of a coup, and they are on a knife edge where they can slip off to either side but in the middle risk being cut by their own actions. And they are governed by the same immutable rules of time that we all are.

      In other words, they still can’t just announce that from now on we will have mandatory mail-in voting. For now at least they have to go through the motions of legislation. Then they have to go through the motions of court challenges to the Constitutionality of this law. That takes time. Then they have to go through the additional motions of appeals, which take more time. They might try to hurry this up by packing the Supreme Court, but even that would take some time, as even that would require legislation—–time—-and then the Constitution still demands Senate approval of all Court justices. Time.

      And they also have to deal with uppity states who take the Constitution seriously and pass their own laws on how elections will be run in their states. Uh-oh—–I see rising state legislature power and gubernatorial authority here, the same things you sneer at because all you can see is the point on top of the pyramid. So now the State is butting heads with the States. That not only takes up valuable time the Left needs to accomplish its goals, it draws attention to the issues at hand and allows for exposition of the defects of the Left’s position.

      While the Left wants, and hysterics fear, a gallop to their victory in reality it would be a slow slog through a marsh, riddled with pitfalls and obstacles. And what is the goal? Today the goal is November 2022.

      And this is true of every single thing they are trying to ramrod through Congress. While it may seem that they are in complete control, the fact is they still depend on Congress, and control of Congress depends on the people, and how the people vote depends on what they are told by their media. (“Media” = plural of “medium”. Television is a medium. Radio is a medium. Print is a medium. More than one equal “media”. Right now we pretty much control the medium of radio. The print medium is now pretty irrelevant, small and insignificant as it is and very dependent on the internet as its vehicle for distribution as so few actually pick up newspapers or magazines. The medium of the Internet is up for grabs, with a strong presence of the Right, and it is as dependent on tech savvy as much as on messaging, so there is opportunity there. That pretty much leaves the medium of television, now owned by the Left but not invulnerable.)

      And maybe, just maybe, that shadow looming in the distance is going to emerge as a loud and powerful new voice for the Right, as if the old Golden Microphone has morphed into a bigger one held by Donald Trump. What good could that do? Oh, I don’t know, but maybe—just maybe—-80 million or so people eager to hear what he has to say and another 40 million or so who are curious might just start to erode the stranglehold on what is told to the majority of Americans.

      This is a voice that, if it appears, could have a huge impact on what happens in November of 2022. Because there are already people out there working very hard to undermine support for vulnerable Democrat Representatives and shoring up support for strong Republicans. Because right now there are groups meeting all over the country, in each state, strategizing on how best to deal with RINOs and how to replace them with strong warriors for the Right. And BTW, these are people who are every bit as angry and disgusted by the direction the GOP has taken as you are—they just understand that a convoy of armored vehicles can be taken out of commission just as easily by sabotaging the engines or drive trains of the leading vehicles and putting up barricades on the road as by blasting then with mortars.

      Not the emotionally gratifying “messy confrontation” some evidently yearn for, but effective. No big booms, no flames, no explosions, no people bleeding out on the side of the road, but equally if not more effective, because all good saboteurs know that the key is not just to disable the event in motion but to create the need to repair and rebuild before starting up again.

      Those who believe that if CNN and MSNBC don’t talk about this means it doesn’t exist, and/or isn’t building up steam, are just as gullible as those who believe the rest of what the Agenda Media tell them.

      • Cluster March 30, 2021 / 12:49 pm

        A few thoughts …

        1. I think most Democrats do know what they are supporting. We have two or three generations now of under informed, over emotional progressives who believe they are mortally superior and thus the ends justify the means. We need to stop trying to find the good in people and start recognizing and acknowledging the evil.

        2. For 3 decades now, we have all been waiting for “conservative” Governors, legislators, etc. to push back and get us on the right path. How has that worked out? The simplicity of this desire is delusional, and furthermore, it endorses the lie Democrats want us to live in. The simple act of “pushing back” means that we accept their premise. We need to reject their entire premise and their existence. Fascism is never vanquished in the courts.

        3. I know violence scares a lot of people, which means those people need to be on the sidelines right now. Physical confrontation in the pursuit of freedom is never a vice.

      • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 1:25 pm

        I think most Democrats do know what they are supporting.

        Really? Do what I do and ask them. Ask them if they support the idea of consolidating power in the hands of a few. Ask them if they think nearly all political power should be in the hands of Congress and the President with very little left to the states or to the people. They’ll either say no or look at you blankly. But they will NOT say yes, they want a nation where all the power resides in the control of a few.

        Ask them to explain their political philosophy. I’ve been doing this for decades here on this blog and have gotten one single coherent answer that had anything to do with politics, that from an avowed Marxist who had studied Marx’s writings. Every single Dem I have ever talked to about politics has voted Dem either FOR an emotion-based reason (“I just think gay people should be able to get married”) or AGAINST (“Donald Trump is an a**hole.) If one dares to tiptoe into what he thinks is actual political theory and defend what he calls “socialism” he is going to be talking about the distorted presentation of economic socialism, completely ignorant of the political system of socialist governance.

        For 3 decades now, we have all been waiting for “conservative” Governors, legislators, etc. to push back and get us on the right path

        And if they haven’t done it then they never will. Case closed. Move on, people, nothing to see here. The past IS the future and so it is immutable.

        The simple act of “pushing back” means that we accept their premise.

        That is simply silly. While I acknowledge that in the past the Right has often been guilty of letting the Left set the terms of conflict and then playing by those rules and particularly accepting and using the semantics the Left has provided I also think that is changing. As for “pushing back” means that we accept their premise. that makes no sense at all. If we “push back” against a mask mandate by refusing to wear masks, that is hardly the same as accepting the premise that there was ever a right to try to impose such a mandate. It is actually the opposite. If we “push back” against an effort to, for example, pack the Supreme Court that is a de facto statement that we do not accept the premise that such an act is acceptable.

        Fascism is never vanquished in the courts.

        Except when it is. And this, of course, depends to a great extent on how one defines the term “fascism” which has to be the most loosely defined term in political jargon.

        I know violence scares a lot of people, which means those people need to be on the sidelines right now.

        You know “what scares a lot of people”? People who are so passionately in favor of violence they promote it as not only the best solution to problems but the only solution. And the last thing “those people” need to do is “be on the sidelines right now”. What they need to do is make it clear that the ardent promotion of violence as the solution to social problems and especially to political problems is not acceptable and will not be tolerated even to the point of letting such calls to violence go unanswered.

        One thing I have noticed is that so many of those posturing as so ready to go out and kick butt, who advocate for some kind of violent action in some kind of violent way against some kind of opponent are people who have never experienced violence firsthand. Who have never sat with a man bleeding out and prayed that God would welcome His child as he crossed over from this life. Who have never seen the aftermath of “messy confrontation” outside of a movie theater but who fantasize about being Rambos. Whose upclose and personal experience with death by firearm is nonexistent. Armchair warriors living in a fantasyland of assumed heroism under fire, and who seem to think this is a validation of their own testosterone levels and essential manliness.

        Violence itself is not necessarily scary, but people who yearn for violence, people who glamorize it and fetishize it and associate with personal things like testosterone, are.

        You know what you never identify? The object of your “messy confrontation”. In other words, who are you going to shoot? Just some fascists somewhere who need a good killin’ ? Believe me, if the Left were to descend upon America with armed troops they would run into a buzzsaw of armed citizen resistance, but you don’t seem to be talking about that. You are hollering about some need to exhibit manhood by being willing/eager to confront some massive amorphous entrenched political monster with a gun. without the slightest reference to what this would accomplish.

        There are times you sound like the kind of guy who would go to the top of a clock tower with a rifle because SOMETHING MUST BE DONE and you yearn for the visceral thrill of DOING SOMETHING. These are the guys who claim to be motivated by some noble social or political agenda but who are really just acting out a personal emotional need.

  6. Cluster March 30, 2021 / 12:51 pm

    This is fear based:

    You first. Pay your own legal fees, lose your own business and maybe serve your own time in lockup.

    This is why conservatives will never win.

    • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 1:26 pm

      This is why conservatives will never win.:

      Because……..maybe because they refuse to be led from behind?

  7. Cluster March 30, 2021 / 1:09 pm

    Speak the truth and live the truth or you will always despise yourself. And don’t ever be afraid to die for your convictions. Anything less then full confidence and conviction is a meaningless life.

    • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 1:35 pm

      Speak the truth and live the truth or you will always despise yourself. And don’t ever be afraid to die for your convictions. Anything less then full confidence and conviction is a meaningless life.

      So profound. So noble. So egocentric if you define “truth” and “convictions” only by your own personal internal metrics. I see you demeaning and dismissing the convictions and truths of others as if yours are the only ones that count, even when presented with objective rationales for those you choose to sneer at as inferior.

      If you think you need to commit to the concept of violence to have a meaningful life that is fine—it is your life. At least as long as you are the only one who pays the consequences.

      And if you need to feel superior to those who find your obsession moving back and forth along the spectrum from “creepy” to “scary” (depending, it seems, on how much manliness you need to exhibit) then so be it.

      I’m just one of those who finds your obsessive need for violence and its evident link in your mind to the essence of manhood much more indicative of a personal pathology than a serious political position.

      And as someone who is very protective of this blog and the rest of us who post here I am not going to let your ranting stand unchallenged as if it represents the attitudes and beliefs of the rest of us.

      • Cluster March 30, 2021 / 1:48 pm

        I would never pretend to represent anyone other than myself, and neither should you or anyone else. Neither do I consider my self superior in any form or fashion. That again is a delusional preconception. Challenge me all you want, I welcome it.

      • Amazona March 30, 2021 / 3:40 pm

        Challenge me all you want, I welcome it.

        Done. Glad to oblige

      • Retired Spook March 30, 2021 / 2:28 pm

        Cluster, just curious — are you a lone voice in the wilderness in Phoenix, or do you have lots of friends who feel the same way? Not a criticism, I just have a hard time relating to this violent confrontation you keep talking about.

  8. Jeremiah March 30, 2021 / 2:56 pm

    Cluster, just try to be patient. The day will come. Just have faith. There’s a reason millions of people across this country have bought up millions and millions of rounds of ammunition.

    Just be patient, and pray. No one wins any battles with God’s divine intervention. We need His help. It’s the main reason this country is in the shape it’s in today, because people refused to seek Him first. This country is painted solid red with the blood of unborn children. So He may be using Biden and company to punish America…but God will set it right through the people who trust in Him.

    • Jeremiah March 30, 2021 / 2:57 pm

      typo with God’s divine intervention should read without God’s divine intervention.

      • Cluster March 30, 2021 / 6:28 pm

        Jeremiah, I truly admire your devotion to God and your Faith is aspirational. I do believe however that God will not fight our fights for us … that is our job, The world is Satan’s dominion and we need to honor Him by doing everything within our power to fight evil. And if we don’t fight against evil, particularly the human and sex trafficking that is happening every hour of every day just 100 miles south of me on our American border, then maybe we will be judged harshly. That is what I fear.

      • Jeremiah March 30, 2021 / 6:47 pm

        Cluster, thank you for the kind words.

        I see what you’re saying, and I agree. Here’s the thing, we have to wait for God to raise up some leaders, and He will. I don’t know who it’s going to be, but He knows, and He will do that. He also has to prepare hearts and minds for the task set before them. Look at king David He was just a boy, and God used him mightily both as a boy and as a man, because He trusted the Lord.

  9. Cluster March 30, 2021 / 3:44 pm

    All of you need to quit being so emotional when reading my posts and read them from a reality based, objective point of view. The criticism I read here is not at all different than what I would expect to hear from people on the Left which is disappointing. IMHO, we are literally in a struggle to preserve our Constitutional rights and the American way of life. I consider the current American experience to be that of 1930’s Germany and I can only assume many Germans back then were also telling some of their compatriots to “be patient” and to “not be a lone voice in the wilderness”. Well, how did that turn out?

    If you actually read my posts, I am not advocating all out armed confrontation. I am not even advocating local personal skirmishes. What I am advocating is the absolute need to not buy into the Left narrative, don’t accept their worldview and too not just pushback on their insanity, but rather to restore and impose objectivity and a fact based world rather than the feminized, childish, and emotional based world we currently live in. No society ever advances in a positive direction if they are immersed in lies.

    It’s ok to stand up for, and speak up for what you truly believe is right, and that’s all I am doing. I don’t care what the Left is doing, they are evil and their actions are predictable. I care what God fearing people are doing, and I still see too many wearing their masks, which is simply a sign of submission.

    • Cluster March 30, 2021 / 6:17 pm

      I will add that what I am advocating for is the desire to avoid an all out war, and the local personal skirmishes, which are already happening and it is because people are immersed in lies and their ignorance and emotions are being enflamed by our ruling class and their narrative of lies. This is what we have to wholesale reject on a mass basis. Ironically people like me are being accused of inciting war when in reality it is the exact opposite.

  10. Jeremiah March 30, 2021 / 5:27 pm

    And remember, God is always on time. He’s never a day late. He’s always right on time.

  11. dbschmidt March 31, 2021 / 6:10 pm

    Very interesting thread. I would have to say I believe everything posted are just different sides to the same coin. In my heart there is no hatred nor belief that we must be confrontational but also we must be resolute against all those that oppose us including the RINOs who are in politics for power & money not caring for their constituents. Nevertheless, I believe the United States of America is protected by the Lord (like Israel) and his intervention will be in time to once again direct us as a nation down the correct path.

    What has happened over the previous year or so is nothing short of a naked power grab by the body Politic, High Tech and most of the Global Ultra-Rich to enslave the last refuse of the people with God given rights.No more Shiny city on the hill is their ultimate goal. Basically, a “fake” pandemic to see how many would sheeple. Look at the real data and this “pandemic” was / is a non-starter. Contagious and somewhat deadly but not even close to those before.

    Here in NC I am not living the reality of those in Arizona–a place I visited and still love. Getting over-whelmed daily by piss poor policy. Soon enough that will change as I follow what real news is available. First I will say I follow Amazona’s method of conversion by just asking people simple questions and presenting them with simple facts. We win every argument on facts but not to the “deaf.” What we need and it sounds like Trump may provide is a medium of our own where true “free speech” can be heard.

    Please don’t ask what I would do to those like in NYC that attack anyone as my answer would make N. Korea blush.

    Now in the great words of Monty Python–time for something completely different. I cannot believe “I Dream of Jeanie” hasn’t been canceled but even better I have a new idea to help make America a real sh!tH0le as quickly as possible. I feel that Dams & Reservoirs, no matter how critical, are racist and exploited the underclass. I believe in using TVA as an example of how many poor and others were forced to sell their property at a loss to the rich Al Gore family as part of making TVA possible we need to destroy the dam and restore the property rights to those impacted. Hoover should just go because of his name or something. Nationwide we can create an underclass of those who suffered–real or not.

    • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 10:43 pm

      My attitude toward those who attack others is that once they break the social contract of peaceful coexistence they instantly waive all rights to be treated gently or with respect and deserve whatever they get. No tolerance whatsoever for those who victimize others. Once you break the rules the other guy gets to do the same thing and you are stuck with whatever new rule he comes up with. Could be pepper spray, could be a shotgun, could be an F-350 running up your spine. Once you open the door you are stuck with whatever comes through it.

    • Amazona March 31, 2021 / 11:07 pm

      I think we need to work more on getting rid of math and the insidious and wholly racist concept that there is a right answer to anything.

      But so much is racist. Did you see the loony tunes teacher explaining that Bandaids are proof of white privilege? (I checked my medicine cabinet and decided they are more likely to be proof of pink privilege or beige privilege, except for my Clifford the Big Red Dog bandaids—still trying to work out whether they represent dog privilege or size privilege or something to do with red.)

      But you know what is NOT racist? Handing out $500 a month to anyone who is not white. Selecting recipients based on skin color is so not racist, it would be racist to think it was. Because white people are never cold or hungry or afraid to live on the streets.

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