Open Thread

Social media can be a bit of a treasure – sometimes what passes through your TL is amazing.

A little earlier today I came across a USA Today thread discussing how we need to differentiate between pedophiles and those who abuse children. No, I’m not kidding. What this is, of course, is an attempt to start normalizing pedophilia. They have to, you see? That is, they have to do this before they all get caught. They are going to “love is love” their way into legalizing the sexual abuse of children.

Then I came across a Financial Times article written by a member of the American Enterprise Institute – you know, the libertarian think tank – which asserted that the government needs to engage in psy-ops against us to protect us from political radicalization. This article, naturally, is because the pys-ops are being exposed and they are now trying to get out in front and claim it was all for our own good.

Then a guy pointed out that at this time in 2008 Obama was saying that marriage is something between a man and a woman while here in 2022 we’ve got people seriously asserting that refusal to date a trans person is bigotry.

We are moving very fast.

They sent Pudding Brain to Georgia to give a voting rights speech – given that the Dawgs won the national championship last night you can rely on it that nobody in Georgia was paying any attention. Doubt that anyone else is, either. And key Georgia Democrats begged off from the event as they have crucial things to do…the most crucial being staying the hell away from the politically toxic Joe Biden.

So far, Manchin and Sinema are standing firm against nuking the filibuster. And Senator Kelly is also saying he has his doubt about it. Amazing what running for re-election in a purple State will do for some Democrats, huh? Some say that Schumer doesn’t even have 44 Democrat votes to kill the filibuster…it is just that they are keeping a low profile and hoping that Manchin’s opposition keeps them from having to take a stand on it. OTOH, Schumer is making noises about forcing a vote on the rules change – which is dumb on two levels. One: without Manchin and Sinema, its pointless. Two: by holding the vote he’ll force purple State Democrats to choose between giving ammo to their GOP opponents or infuriating the base. And the far left base of the Democrats is furious that they haven’t jettisoned the filibuster. My only question here is how many filing deadlines have passed: Schumer pulls the trigger too soon and a half dozen Democrats could end up drawing a far left primary opponent who will be massively funded by Blue State leftists.

Sucks to be Schumer.

Long and very good article about the opposition to paleogenetic research. This is research carried out to find DNA markers on ancient remains to see how human beings moved around. A great deal has been learned in this field and, as it turns out, humans have moved around a lot. So, why should anyone be opposed to finding this out? Because the Narrative of native tribes it that the land they were on when the crackers first showed up had always been their land. Their sacred spaces, polluted by the cruel and rapacious white man. Yeah, turns out that is all bull. The Natives moved around as much as anyone else in a fierce competition for resources. Some tribes didn’t arrive in their “ancestral” lands until after the Europeans arrived…as tribes desperately sought contact with the Europeans for trade opportunities. Often, Native tribes would fight each other for access. So, there’s your reason – we’re going to kill off this valuable and interesting science because some people who are financially invested in a garbage story about pre-Columbian North America don’t want their meal ticket taken away. Side note: the author expresses sympathy for the basic concept of respecting Native traditions. For me, I’ll respect the people living by their ancient traditions but this idea that because you have X percent pre-Columbian blood you get veto power over science is drivel. People are people; always have been, always will be. Nobody is all good. Nobody is all bad. And we should find out all about everything, if we can.

Our man Matt lays out the failure of Biden’s Covid policies.

Hollywood is burning itself alive on the altar of political correctness. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving of creeps.

I have no sympathy at all – not for any of them working. I hope they all go bankrupt and have to panhandle on the street. But, that said, there is still a market for movies – we on the right should seriously consider raising some billions of dollars and starting a movie studio. Not in Hollywood! Not in California or any of the traditional entertainment area. Maybe Tulsa or some such place. A complete new start. Now, do we go and make preachy, rightwing movies? No. But we make movies. You know: fantasy entertainment designed to divert people away from their daily lives. I can easily think of a dozen movies which range from fantasy to love story to war movies to western which, well made, would be highly successful and, perhaps, even spawn a few franchises. And I’m not just talking about my books! Though that would be cool. But here’s an example: Ann Bassett. She was an Old West rancher and some time associate of Butch Cassidy. Her basic story was fighting off other cattle barons to protect her late father’s ranch. It just screams “make a movie out of me”. Heck, imagine a top flight female star and then your supporting male role is a guy playing Butch Cassidy. Blockbuster all over it. That’s the kind of movie we should make – what hasn’t been done but which can be made fun and interesting. If it can be done, all that entertainment money stops flowing Left and starts flowing Right. Think of the possibilities.

57 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Cluster January 12, 2022 / 9:50 am

    Be sure to watch 1883. The first two episodes are fantastic. Well written, well acted and great story. I’ve also read quite a bit about the Indian wars of 1825-1875 and the different tribes and cultures and personally I love the indian culture and romanticize about living that way of life back then, but yes, they were brutal and they conquered whenever they could. The tribes would battle with each other all the time and the victor took the spoils. Truth is, the Indians were much more brutal than the white man and the Indians were most certainly NOT socialist loving peaceful people.

    Ted Cruz eviscerated the mindless non binary State Dept. hack who was being questioned at the J6 hearing yesterday and her answers should alarm everyone of us. “I can not answer that at this time” was the default answer to every question pertaining to the DOJ’s and FBI’s involvement.

    These people are corrupt criminals and I am becoming more and more convinced that we will need to go to war with them. We should abandon all attempts to have any constructive dialogue with Democrats and instead treat them exactly like the ignorant contemptuous Marxist children that they are, and if they persist on pursuing their anti America agenda, well then that’s why the Second Amendment exists. It’s time they learn that lesson.

    • Mark Noonan January 12, 2022 / 2:02 pm

      We know. They know we know. They’re still going to lie about it.

      • Retired Spook January 12, 2022 / 2:18 pm

        Right out of the old Soviet playbook.

      • Cluster January 13, 2022 / 9:16 am

        It’s unacceptable. Other populations throughout history may have tolerated the lies or felt too weak to confront the lies, but not us. Not Americans. We disgrace the honor of our forefathers if we allow this to continue.

      • fieldingclaymore January 13, 2022 / 4:59 pm

        Rough day for your buddies Spook, Seditious Conspiracy. Do you know that guy with the cool eye patch?

      • Cluster January 13, 2022 / 5:59 pm

        Explain the Russia Collusion narrative to us. You know considering your obsession for seditious conspiracy theories. And honestly I am surprised a white supremacist hasn’t killed you yet.

      • Retired Spook January 13, 2022 / 6:17 pm

        Do you know that guy with the cool eye patch?

        I actually do. I met him a couple of years ago when he came to Indiana for a cookout with our Oath Keepers Indiana Region 2 group. We all had the sense after that meeting that he was someone who might go off the rails. Shortly after that, we incorporated Indiana Oath Keepers as a separate entity. To the best of my knowledge, no one from Indiana Oath Keepers participated in the Capitol riot on 1/6/21

      • Mark Noonan January 13, 2022 / 10:11 pm

        Gotta be careful – they are looking for any excuse these days. Keep it tight; keep it with people you know or who are fully vetted by rock-solid people.

      • fieldingclaymore January 13, 2022 / 6:19 pm

        I’m not obsessed with seditious conspiracy but the DOJ is. Collusion is not a legal term the term you are looking for is conspiracy. Mueller wasn’t able to charge one, so there was no chargeable conspiracy. Smoke no fire.

      • fieldingclaymore January 13, 2022 / 6:20 pm

        That is good Spook. You seem too level headed to be involved with infowars dopes like that.

      • Cluster January 14, 2022 / 8:20 am

        Mueller wasn’t able to charge one, so there was no chargeable conspiracy. Smoke no fire.

        Smoke no fire?? That’s an interesting spin on it. I prefer lies no substance. And in fact that’s what it was, all lies from the beginning manufactured by the rival political campaign, sold to the FBI who proceeded to bilk tax payers out of millions of dollars prolonging a needless investigation resulting in two impeachments and an attempt to remove a duly elected President, combined with a 24/7 media campaign designed to marginalize the character of the US President and divide the country along racial lines, including a national media platform that censored speech in favor of that political rival campaign.

        So I’ll ask again, was that a seditious conspiracy? Take your time

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 6:25 pm

        Define “links”: define “assets”; define “campaign”.

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 6:32 pm

        This was kind of interesting a vague drifty kind of way. But in general I saw a lot of words that meant very little, except that—–as I was told by two international espionage experts at an espionage conference a few years ago—“Russians like to make mischief”. I’d pay attention to a report that showed that Russia, in concert with either party in the U.S., interfered in a way that made any difference. Russia making mischief on its own is not news. Russia trying to shift an election in one direction or another is only interesting if the party that would have benefited was involved in the effort. Russia trying to shift an election in one direction or another without the involvement of the party that would have benefited would call for an investigation into why Russia felt this person’s victory would benefit Russia, but not an indictment of the innocent party.

        In other words, we need context for any of this to be more than word salad that seems to impress the easily impressed.

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 6:45 pm

        Is anyone still trying to spin the Mueller mess into something meaningful? I thought that was dead and buried. It was summed up as “We couldn’t prove Trump did anything but we couldn’t prove he didn’t do anything and we wanted to indict him anyway but couldn’t find an excuse. The End”

        What would be interesting would be an accurate report on the Clinton campaign hiring a real Russian agent, the involvement of Christopher Steele (known personally by the two espionage experts I mentioned who said his dossier was so amateurish and strange they were surprised he put his name on it) and how much money was spent and where to try to cheat in the election. That would be worth reading.

        Why aren’t we talking about the United States government shilling for Pfizer and Moderna by trying to force people to take an experimental drug and continuing the charade of being in the middle of an “emergency” so they can continue to push the drug under the EUA and not be legally liable for damages? Why aren’t we talking about the intricate web of corruption involving US government protection of a nearly-useless and often dangerous drug, funneling billions of taxpayer dollars to the companies while acting against the interests of its own citizens in not informing them of dangers or allowing them to sue for damages?

        Why is anyone talking about Mueller? Mueller represents a failed coup followed by a failed effort to make it sound like less of a failure, promulgated by failures and cherished by failures.

      • Cluster January 14, 2022 / 8:12 pm

        Fielding, the most annoying thing about you is your intellectual laziness. I would engage you but I really don’t give a f**K what you think.

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 10:03 pm

        It’s not that I care what he “thinks” it’s just that he doesn’t even try to pretend he thinks anything. He sops up some Agenda Media tripe and dumps it here, as if it is our job to slog through it and then ….what? Be impressed by it? Be convinced by it? Respond to it?

        Lazy is the right word.

      • Cluster January 14, 2022 / 10:11 pm

        Fielding is someone who passes for “enlightened” on the Left. You can tell by his deft ability to use google and then cut and paste. And yes, he does expect us to be impressed lol

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 10:19 pm

        I’ve noticed that one thing about narcissists is the lack of much to be narcissistic about.

      • fieldingclaymore January 17, 2022 / 10:44 am

        Hope you guys had a nice weekend. Do you go see 45 in AZ Saturday cluster? I am not trying to impress anyone. You asked me about the 2016 Russian collision “Hoax” as you call it and I gave you reports created by people who actually did investigative work. I am not spinning anything. Mueller couldn’t charge a actionable conspiracy. You are the ones spinning it as hoax.

      • Amazona January 17, 2022 / 12:05 pm

        “reports created by people who actually did investigative work”

        How many of them included the information that the only Russian agent was hired by the Clinton campaign and charged with inventing salacious lies about Trump? How many of them included the fact that Steele based his “dossier” on drunken gossip in a bar? How many of them included the fact that the FISA Court issued its warrants based on perjury, including that of the head of the FBI?

        The entire thing WAS a hoax, an effort to influence the election by spreading lies concocted as part of a DNC plan, funded by the DNC and without a single element of fact showing any “collusion” between the Trump campaign and any Russian official. It, and the subsequent bogus “investigation” were created specifically to keep the emotional pot boiling, so the ignorant and the easily led could keep inhaling the steam and pretending they were actually processing real information about real crimes.

        Cherish your silly fantasies, but don’t try to make them sound like anything other than the fever dreams of someone totally controlled by emotional reactions generated by irrational dislike of certain people, couched occasionally in a thin pretense of actual political thought.

  2. Retired Spook January 13, 2022 / 1:41 pm

    I love this guy’s optimism and sense of humor.

  3. Cluster January 14, 2022 / 8:23 am

    … too level headed to be involved with infowars dopes like that.

    Infowars dopes lol. Coming from the guy who believes in gender fluidity and climate change hahahaha that’s rich.

    • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 7:17 pm

      I know I’m impressed by who’s in charge, We have the FBI’s Executive Assistant Director of the National Security Branch followed by the Assistant AG, both of whom make Inspector Clouseau look like a genius. We’ve got Fauci pulling the strings to keep the Covid Charade going, we’ve got our own government complicit in the Scam Of The Century with a death toll of millions and a dollar cost of billions (with who knows how much funneled back to the Big Guy) we’ve got Garland mumbling and bumbling and looking like a deer in the headlights, we’ve got a VP who can’t answer the most simple questions and a president who is, well, a shaky meat puppet we’re stuck with because the alternative is the aforementioned VP. Add all that to the specter of another bout of Schiff and the Waddler and all I can say is, THANK YOU BIDEN VOTERS . WE WON’T FORGET.

      And BTW, fielding, you might try a few declarative sentences to explain your point, if you have one, instead of just cluttering up the blog with free-floating propaganda pieces with no context.

    • Retired Spook January 14, 2022 / 10:45 am

      Be very careful of those unarmed 70 year old white guys fielding, they can be really really scary

      You’ve got that right! As Admiral Yamamoto, the planner of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor so famously told the Japanese Emperor about invading the United States: “there will be a rifle behind every blade of grass. In the last 80 years, the number of rifles has increased exponentially.

    • fieldingclaymore January 14, 2022 / 1:21 pm

      I am not afraid of these dopes. You are too tightly wound my friend. You need to relax. Go enjoy you new home in Wyoming.

      • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 6:46 pm

        Cluster’s in Montana. I’m in Wyoming.

  4. jdge1 January 14, 2022 / 4:25 pm

    Here’s something you never hear from traditional media.

    “In a single-center, open-label, randomized clinical trial, it was observed that melatonin treatment lowered the mortality rate by 93% in severely-infected COVID-19 patients compared with the control group.

    This is seemingly the first report to show such a huge mortality reduction in severe COVID-19 infected individuals with a simple treatment. If this observation is confirmed by more rigorous clinical trials, melatonin could become an important weapon to combat this pandemic.”

    • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 6:50 pm

      But melatonin is cheap. Ivermectin is cheap. We’d rather pay $500 per weeklong treatment for Pfizer’s new pill than $25.00 for the same treatment with ivermectin, which also addresses 20 characteristics of the virus instead of just one from Pfizer, meaning more effectiveness. We’d rather use the government to shill for Merck’s new Covid pill that works by initiating rapid mutations in the virus—because what could go wrong with the possibility of runaway mutations?

  5. jdge1 January 14, 2022 / 10:03 pm

    As for some of the alternate treatment costs;

    The commentators point out that, at less than $5 per course of treatment, melatonin is a cost-effective addition to any treatment plan. For comparison, Regeneron monoclonal antibodies cost about $2,100 per dose and remdesivir is $3,100 per treatment. Melatonin also has no serious side effects, so it can be universally used.

    In the standard care only group, 13 of the 76 patients died (17.1%), compared to just one of the 82 patients (1.2%) who received melatonin in addition to everything else. That’s a reduction in mortality of 93%.

    • Amazona January 14, 2022 / 10:19 pm

      I think it likely I had Omicron, just because close friends tested positive for it and then I had the same symptoms, though milder. I wonder if that is because I have natural antibodies from having Covid a couple of years ago, or if it is related to the fact that I take melatonin at night as a sleep aid. I had a headache and not really a cough as much as a raspy throat-clearing, and I could feel my lungs though they did not hurt. My oxygen levels remained high, my temperature remained normal, and this condition persisted for about three days, though it was so mild and abated so gradually it is hard to tell when it started and when it went away. I started taking ivermectin and zinc and am still doing that.

      I’m thinking the fuss over January 6 is a diversion to distract us from the deadly conspiracy around the bogus Covid emergency. There are several aspects to this. One is the death toll due to the mismanagement of health care, under the direction of the highly political and corrupt CDC—imagine what might have happened if the immediate reaction to the virus had been focus on early treatment with known therapeutics. One is the toll on the public due to the conditions we had shoved down our throats—masking, shutdowns, school closings, business closings, and the emotional toll of the purposely created panic. One is the very ugly aspect of our own government colluding with drug companies to enrich them while protecting them from liability.

      This is the kind of thing that, if fully examined, is likely to go down in history as the worst example of government corruption ever. The other examples of Leftist butchery of its own citizens were solely in pursuit of political power, but this is greed, pure and simple.

      And the government has to have something big and shiny to dangle in front of us to distract us from this despicable debacle, which I think is the Star Chamber spectacle of the January 6 Committee. The entire Left, from Congress to the predictably obedient media, have gone full throttle on the “insurrection” invention, ridiculous as it is, knowing that its ignorant and gullible and hate-driven base will gobble it all up and ask for more, but it is so blatantly bogus that we have to ask what is its purpose. Yes, it is to smear Trump and Trump supporters, but it’s more than that. I have come to the conclusion that its true purpose is to keep us from examining the Covid Crisis, its roots and its own sinister purposes and its cost to the nation.

  6. Tim January 14, 2022 / 10:23 pm

    Is fieldingclaymore a rebranded pitchforker? It sure sounds like it.

    As far as anything that comes from, as long as it gets read into the record, it will get posted. In essence, you could get Gram’s Cream Corn Casserole recipe posted.

    I t would probably be more useful than anything claymore has provided so far.

    • Cluster January 15, 2022 / 9:35 am

      Not sure if fielding is that brain damaged, but I do miss the forkers a little bit. They were special kind of stupid – a non binary stupid

    • fieldingclaymore January 17, 2022 / 10:46 am

      I am not brain damaged enough yet.

  7. Cluster January 15, 2022 / 9:38 am

    And I have to tell you Fielding, your parties obsession with “voting rights” and “January 6” is f***ing weird. Democrats are just annoying and really weird people … hence the 30% approval. No one likes Democrats anymore

    • Retired Spook January 15, 2022 / 12:12 pm

      No one likes Democrats anymore

      That’s not entirely true. People who like free stuff and don’t like to work love Democrats, as do people who DO work but like to meddle in everyone else’s business.

    • fieldingclaymore January 17, 2022 / 10:53 am

      I agree with you to a point Cluster. I think they had to try to do something on voters rights and the 1/6 event to me needs a thorough investigation. But they don’t have the votes for voters rights and must change strategy.. Maybe see if they can amend the Electoral Count Act, which has rumblings of bipartisan support. I also think they now need to see what Manchin would agree to with parts of the Biden agenda, CTC and others things that are popular and can be done with 50 +1. Biden said he would tame the virus and he hasn’t. So 2022 is going to be bloodbath for team blue.

      • Amazona January 17, 2022 / 11:55 am

        Failure to understand the vital role the Electoral College plays in protecting the votes of American citizens is the reason so many fall for the lie that it somehow does the opposite. As usual, ignorance is driving the bus when it comes to Leftist causes.

        Ditto for the so-called “voting rights bill”. It is designed to allow non-citizens to vote, and to allow other forms of voter fraud. Anyone who takes the time to actually read the bill and compare it to the voting rules in the various states could see this. But it’s so much easier to just have the masters tell the sheep which pen they are supposed to be in.

      • fieldingclaymore January 17, 2022 / 1:05 pm

        Is Jim Banks a leftist? He thinks the Electoral Count needs to be amended.

      • Amazona January 18, 2022 / 1:38 pm

        It’s this precious smirking nonsense that makes people like you so distasteful. It’s so infantile.

      • fieldingclaymore January 17, 2022 / 1:05 pm

        Electoral Count Act need to be amended.

      • Retired Spook January 17, 2022 / 1:50 pm

        Jim Banks’ position.

        “It’s a muddled, flawed [act] and Congress must clarify the essential process of certifying elections,” Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), who objected to certifying the Arizona and Pennsylvania electors last year, said in a statement to Axios.

        Banks, who leads the 158-member Republican Study Committee, the largest conservative caucus in the House, is a bellwether for the median House GOP position.

        Banks said he’s open to alterations as long as it’s not a “Trojan horse” for Democrats’ broader election measures.

        I’d be open to adding language (might need a Constititional amendment, though) that clarifies and/or expands the role of the Vice President in the electoral count process. The Constitution does not say he can contest the certificates, and it doesn’t say he can’t. Republicans generally honor the fact that if the Constitution doesn’t address a given issue, it’s left to the states or the people (Tenth Amendment). For at least the last century, Democrats have had the view that if something is not specifically prohibited by the Constitution, it’s fair game (anti-Tenth Amendment, and a clear violation of their Constitutional oath). Given that the two parties are 180 degrees apart on this, it should be clarified, and given that Democrats took cheating to a whole new level in 2020, there should be a provision for the VP to reject certificates from states where there were so many irregularities that a fair and honest certification could not be made.

      • Amazona January 18, 2022 / 1:47 pm

        …there should be a provision for the VP to reject certificates from states where there were so many irregularities that a fair and honest certification could not be made. and this has to start with making it clear that certification is a serious legal duty, not a casual rubber stamp of whatever is placed in front of a legislature or secretary of state, with legal penalties for false certification.

        We can start with that right now, with the national GOP opening up this topic with the state parties and beginning a campaign to get this message across, to the people who do the certification and to the voters who should be told their votes might be disqualified if the people they elect don’t do their jobs.

        The federal government should be the last recourse in the case of false or even just casual certification. This is the job of the state’s Attorney General, to prosecute frivolous or false certification, and the job of the legislatures to demand accurate vote tallies.

        The problem with this is that it would require steps deemed unacceptable by the Left—clearing voter registration rolls of dead voters or people who have moved, demanding photo IDs of voters, requiring voters to either personally mail their ballots (with identification on the envelopes including names and signatures) or personally drop them off at an attended drop-off supervised by the Election Commission in that state (ditto) or voting in person. Until we have a reasonably reliable way to know that every vote was cast by one eligible voter who was properly registered and identified, and accurately counted one time, that vote tally simply can’t be certified.

        If people won’t elect officials dedicated to this and committed to making it work, they deserve to have their votes discounted by the Electoral College.

      • Amazona January 17, 2022 / 8:31 pm

        Sorry—-I was in a hurry and had a Roseanne Rosannadanna moment, focusing on the Electoral College instead of the Electoral Count Act. Never mind………

        Aside from the convoluted language, I think the real issue is that it conveys the idea that Congress must accept any vote tally if it is presented by the proper electors from a state, even if there is compelling evidence that the vote tally is wrong. This does kick it all back to the states, and maybe that’s where we need to put our attention—possibly federal legislation making false certification a crime, so the state legislatures have to realize they can’t just rubber stamp an obviously incorrect vote with no consequences.

        The feds can’t and shouldn’t be running the elections—that is up to the states and should stay that way. But I think possibly the federal government could establish some basic guidelines, to ensure that every state has to have in place some mechanism for ensuring basic things—only citizens vote, vote only once, be registered first in the right place, no ballot harvesting, that kind of thing. Either that or say that votes from states that can’t provide adequate assurance of legality and accuracy just won’t have their votes counted, and leave it up to the states to deal with it.

        The issue is how to be as sure as possible that only accurate vote totals are used to pick the president. We kept hearing that yes, we knew X number of votes weren’t right but because we couldn’t tell who should have gotten them, or “it wasn’t enough to change the outcome” we just ignored it. I say no, the fact that we didn’t know who should have gotten which votes is proof that the count can’t be certified

  8. Retired Spook January 15, 2022 / 2:34 pm

    Got this from a friend. I could not be more apropos to today’s world.

    The donkey told the elephant, “The grass is blue.”

    The elephant replied, “No, the grass is green .”

    The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.

    As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn’t it true that the grass is blue?”

    The lion replied: “If you believe it is true, the grass is blue.”

    The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The elephant disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him.”

    The king then declared: ′′The elephant will be punished with 3 days of silence.”

    The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ′′The grass is blue, the grass is blue…”

    The elephant asked the lion, “Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, the grass is green?”

    The lion replied, ′′You’ve known and seen the grass is green.”

    The elephant asked, ′′So why do you punish me?”

    The lion replied, “That has nothing to do with the question of whether the grass is blue or green. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an ass, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!”

    The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn’t care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they aren’t.

    When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on.

  9. Retired Spook January 15, 2022 / 3:57 pm

    Excellent explanation of 270 “experts” demanding that Joe Rogan be censored:

    🔥 A group of 270 “experts” just published a strongly-worded internet letter addressed to Spotify, about its biggest problem: Joe Rogan. And it was a STINKER. These experts are immeasurably indignant. One, apparently an organizer of sorts, Jessica Malaty Rivera, was described on CNN as an infectious disease epidemiologist at Boston Hospital, but a quick Google search reveals she also apparently works for the Rockefeller Foundation, a political advocacy group, where she engages with social media to “combat misinformation.” More on that in a minute.

    Both Rivera and the online public letter consider Joe Rogan’s podcast interview with Dr. Robert Malone to be nothing less than MASS MISINFORMATION. It’s the most dangerous and terrifying thing that has EVER HAPPENED. I’m not even making that up. The letter says “it is a sociological issue of devastating proportions.” Devastating! Like a giant comet crashing into the Earth, nuclear war with China, or a dozen Faucis.

    And, I think they’re copying. “Mass mis-information” is very similar to “Mass Formation,” if you think about it, which is what Malone was lecturing Rogan about in the first place. Mass Misinformation, Mass Formation. They only have about three letters difference between them. Ironically, “mass formation” is one of the things the activist experts objected to, and now they’re drafting behind the term.

    Anyway, these activist experts think that Spotify is spreading dangerous ideas that make people think wrong. I took a look at their “open letter.” While it claims the podcast episode featured a lot of “false information,” it doesn’t actually list any, or explain precisely HOW the information is false or dangerous or identify with specificity WHO it is supposed to be dangerous to.

    When you click on the hyperlinked words “false information,” it goes — and I am not making this up — to a leftwing blog site that “debunks” Dr. Malone, quibbling over fine points like whether menstrual irregularities are caused BY the vaccines or just as a RESULT of using them, i.e. “the body’s natural immune response” to the injection.

    The anti-Spotify experts didn’t mention Justice Sotomayor’s disinformation about the number of kids in critical care. I’d like to see THAT open letter! And … who do you think has more influence, Joe Rogan or Justice Sotomayor? Just asking.

    I’m starting to get a little suspicious of these billionaire-funded advocacy groups employing all these “scientists” and trying to cancel everybody all the time. The Rockefeller Foundation is a giant leftist “think tank” that launders money and influence to advance leftwing communitarian causes, like the Bill Gates Foundation. The Rockefeller Foundation was involved in eerily predictive pandemic planning in 2010 fueling conspiracy theories. A Foundation report available online describes a fictional pandemic, praising China for its draconian lockdown and quarantine policy. ( Yech.

    While these advocacy Foundations claim to want to be organized to help impoverished Africans, they sure spend a lot of time and money meddling in domestic politics. I think we could use Ms. Rivera on the front lines; you know, helping sick people in the Third World. I would offer to pay for her travel, but I’m sure The Rockefeller Foundation can afford it.

    Anyway, the funniest tweet I saw this weekend was this gem:

    > Kid: Mom, what’s mass formation psychosis?

    > Mom: It’s just a made-up term by right-wing conspiracy theorists who think politicians and the media are lying to us and making everyone crazy. It doesn’t exist. Now get in the trunk.

    • Amazona January 16, 2022 / 12:17 am

      Among the groups which have completely lost credibility—the FBI, the CDC, the FDA—we can add “experts”. Add to that the new Leftist hysteria about everything being THE WORST THING EVER THE MOST DANGEROUS THING EVER AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO EVERYTHING WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE IF WE’RE NOT TRIPLE MASKED AND GAJILLION-VAXXED IT’S THE END OF DEMOCRACY JIM CROW and so on, it’s hard to understand the appeal except to the already-unbalanced.

      Don’t these people ever just get worn out by all the melodrama? What kind of mental hiccup makes these people determined to make our lives into ongoing Jerry Springer shows?

    • Retired Spook January 17, 2022 / 2:16 pm

      JDGE, I’m reading a 5-book series The Last Sanctuary, by Kyla Stone, that sounds like it’s based on Dr. Baric’s, and Dr. Zhengli’s research. The books were published in 2017. The parallels are scary.

  10. Amazona January 17, 2022 / 11:27 am

    Read this and then tell yourself and your loved ones that no matter what happens you do not want to ever—EVER—-be sent to a Mayo Clinic.

    From the article:

    A Florida family fighting to give their loved one on a ventilator alternative treatments for COVID-19 have lost another battle—this time in Florida’s First District Court of Appeal.

    The wife and son of Daniel Pisano first squared off against Mayo Clinic Florida at an emergency hearing on Dec. 30 in Florida’s Fourth Judicial Circuit. Before that, they’d been begging the hospital to allow them to try treating Pisano—who’s been on a ventilator now for 28 days—with the controversial drug ivermectin, along with a mix of other drugs and supplements, part of a protocol recommended by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC).

    From a story of another man, who survived his Mayo Clinic ordeal only because he made it out before they killed him, and got treatment:

    When she dropped him off at the Mayo Clinic Florida emergency room, she was told to come back and pick him up in 4-5 hours.

    “Once he got to Mayo, they just completely took over, and there was no informed consent,” DeTrude said. “There was no giving him information and letting us make a decision. They made all of his decisions for him, and they follow a standard protocol.”

    There were no choices, there was no discussion…they just kept upping the oxygen,” DeTrude said.

    The Mayo Clinic did not return requests for comment by The Epoch Times about DeTrude’s case, Pisano’s case, or COVID-19 treatment protocols, in general.

    DeTrude said that eventually, her husband had become so weak, he couldn’t get out of the hospital bed. She felt that the hospital’s treatments weren’t working. She wanted to take him home. The hospital wouldn’t agree to discharge him and didn’t allow her to visit, she said.

    Why or how is any hospital allowed to hold someone against his will, against the will of his family, and refuse to let his own doctor treat him?

    We have got to get a grip on this insanity.

    • jdge1 January 18, 2022 / 1:25 am

      Unfortunately, this is common in far more hospitals than just the Mayo Clinic. This does not bode well for patients as a whole. Many doctors are being forced to adhere to what is referred to as “standard of care”, which is usually dictated by the AMA, which is largely funded by big pharma. Those wo do not follow “standard of care” are often faced with loss of hospital privileges or worse, loss of license. Patients are becoming prisoners, loosing their rights to choose their care and at the same being denied knowledgeable advocates to speak on their behalf.

      • Amazona January 18, 2022 / 1:37 pm

        The very idea that someone can be admitted to a hospital without approval from someone qualified to make the decision—not someone mentally incapacitated by pain or illness—-and then basically held prisoner, kept from family, and forced to endure treatment he does not want or approve, is barbaric. If this is not unusual then it needs to be publicized and these hospitals avoided at all costs.

        The more I see of this nation disintegrating in every aspect due to political agendas, the more I think a major “reset” —to borrow the Left’s own word—-is called for.

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