Open Thread

The sentenced the guy the FBI set up to be Whitmer’s kidnapper to 19 years today. Word to the wise, guys: anyone – and I mean anyone – who advocates anti-government violence is a Fed. They have whole teams of agents looking for any loudmouth they can sucker into playing along. They have their Narrative – that violent White Supremacists are the Real Terrorists – and they will make up crimes to support this. Don’t be drawn into it.

Our task is not the violent overthrow of the US Government – it is to work where we can to expand our power. While the Constitution is in shreds, it is still there. The States are still sovereign. Counties are well-nigh independent of all higher authority. School boards answer to nearly nobody. In the States where we can win: win big. Enact laws defending liberty. And also start pressing our States to cease accepting federal money: huge amounts of the laws on your State and local books are there simply because the federal money doesn’t come unless it is. Stop it and break free. Take over County commissions, sheriff’s offices, school boards. Bottom up has to be our plan – still complete on the national level and take what wins we can…but the future is a kid starting first grade next year after we took over the school board. Twelve short years from now that kid is a literate, numerate, sane and physically healthy patriot. Get the sheriffs who will simply refuse to enforce federal laws which infringe on rights. Pass restrictions on the actions of federal agents in the States. Things like that – while also pushing into the Blue areas and winning whatever we can, no matter how small, because even the smallest victories today become big wins tomorrow: I remember when in the 1980’s the Liberals started their plans to take over San Diego and Orange counties in California – and it has largely succeeded. Took them ages. Started with a couple school boards, a city council here and there…

Voting grows. More people do it. The various laws and programs the Democrats have enacted are bringing ever more people to the polls. We’re still very much playing catch up. But as the crisis in our civilization grows more acute, look for this trend to continue and intensify. And don’t think it will forever favor the Democrats. Remember that Trump scored 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. People are angry, confused and want answers and solutions – they will surge to the polls in ever greater numbers trying to find them. Our task is to ride that lightning. If we can provide a real alternative – no more Democrat-lite – and shed our connections to Big Corporation (almost done) and the Military-Industrial Complex (about half way there) then we can really start to talk to people.

Governor Abbott is still sending illegals to DC – to the fury of Democrats who would never, of course, lend a hand to any of those poor people. It is effective propaganda but I think we need to next-step it. My suggestion to Abbott is that he get together with other border State governors and work up a plan to send 10,000 illegals to DC all at once. Force the MSM to cover it. Make it a crisis; show the Ruling Class that we’re serious and this has to stop. Side note; Abbott is my third choice for 2024 behind Trump and DeSantis. He’s doing solid work. Made a few policy errors here and there, but when the chips are down he fights for us.

Musk is thinking – so the rumor goes – of buying Substack and essentially getting into the MSM business. I think he was genuinely surprised at how little notice the MSM has taken of the Twitter Files, and that what little is said about them is invariably a pack of lies. Musk is a liberal – I doubt he’ll ever stop being a liberal – but he’s been mugged by reality and I think it is dawning on him that if he wants to remain free, he’s got to attack the system. It is either that or just roll over for them.

One thing Musk did point out today – which I didn’t know and apparently a lot of other people didn’t know – is that the person tasked with keeping Fauci ethical in his professional service is…his wife. Which really isn’t a surprise except that it shows you that not only are they corrupt, but they don’t really care if we find out how corrupt they are.

Congressman-elect Santos apparently told a bunch of whoppers in his successful House campaign. The Democrats are demanding he resign because of his lies. Most of us are just laughing at that and pointing out Warren and Biden just for starters. GOPe types are wetting themselves over it, as usual. But I don’t think the bedwetters will rule the day here – I think that even someone like McCarthy realizes there is no upside to throwing one of our own to the wolves. If Santos is a real problem, them primary him in 2024.

Hooters is thinking of rebranding itself on the conclusion that Millennial men just don’t care that much for boobs. I really don’t know what to make of that.

CNN broadcast a story of a 9 year old girl being sold by her father to an old man – apparently because the girl’s family is impoverished. Most people are naturally horrified by it: but I’d like to point out that this is what they do there. It is what they’ve always done there. You won’t talk these people out of it. To them, a nine year old will now be with a rich man who will ensure she is fed and her position will also ensure her larger family survives tough times. In their mind, while this might not be ideal, it is better than the girl going hungry, her family going hungry or the women of the family forced to engage in dishonorable practices to keep body and soul together. Have you ever been really hungry? In the sense of having nothing to eat and no prospect of getting another meal? That is what the family faced and this is how they decided to get out of it.

Now, you can still stop this: but it will require killing. Lots of killing. Including women and children. These people will view you as alien outsiders and no matter how much they might hate their own rulers, they’re going to hate you even more for trying to force change on them. Nothing is quite as cut and dried as a news report tries to make out. For the record, I’d like that practice to be stropped. But I’d also like to hear a Mass at Hagia Sophia. There’s lots of things I’d like but I’m never going to get. And before I do anything which will result in our young me killing their young men I’m going to think carefully before I even speak, let along act.

42 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook December 29, 2022 / 10:38 am

    For the first time in my life I think the majority of serious Conservative political analysts, commentators and strategists are on the same page, (same page you’re on) that we need to start from the ground up, just like Progressives did over a century ago, and I think you saw the beginning of that effort in the last election; lots of school board seats changed hands. The thing we have going for us is that we have the truth on our side, where the entire Progressive agenda was built on lies and deception. Chapter 11 in The Road to Serfdom is entitled “The End of Truth.” It’s going to be a multi-generational task, but freedom is worth the effort, and our descendants will thank us.

    • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 11:57 am

      It’s one thing to have truth on our side, another to get that truth out there to the people who need to hear it. I think the new Twitter scandals are showing a lot of people how much the government has tried to keep the truth from them, and we need to build on that and keep that momentum going.

      • Retired Spook December 29, 2022 / 12:12 pm

        I could not agree more.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 2:08 pm

        So my question is, will we have the will and foresight to develop this information? That is, break it down so people can understand its significance and then keep presenting it?

      • Retired Spook December 29, 2022 / 2:27 pm

        I think a more appropriate question is, will the information paths be available to get information out? We can’t count on any corporate/agenda media outlets except Fox, and even they’re not 100% on board. You know the Left is not just going to roll over and play dead. they’re going to fight back with every fiber of their being.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 2:49 pm

        Supposedly Musk paid something like $44 Billion for Twitter. I wonder how much it would cost to buy a network station. Back in the shameful “fake but accurate” days of Nothing But Crap NBC it was rumored that the company was in serious trouble. The same thing has been said of both ABC and CBS. Yet no conservative billionaire or consortium of billionaires has stepped up to buy a network and turn it into a source of real news and real entertainment.

        It seems to me that a network which presented only unedited news, with no editorial comment but actual presentation of what has happened, would get approximately half of the viewing public, if not more—-all conservatives and a lot of Liberals who would be curious to see what facts really look like.

        Do we really think that families would reject entertainment programming that did not include coarseness, vulgarity, sexual references or the other components so necessary to most Agenda Media shows?

        I’ve always thought that a conservative network, not cable, would be a very profitable enterprise yet so far no one has stepped up to test that theory. “Last Man Standing” was a funny, well-made show with likable characters but it got little attention because the main protagonist was a conservative and it didn’t stand a chance on Agenda Media stations.

        I just saw a comment (can’t find it now) about Leftist billionaires funding their media but conservatives not doing the same thing. How’s that working out for us?

      • Retired Spook December 29, 2022 / 2:57 pm

        It seems to me that a network which presented only unedited news, with no editorial comment but actual presentation of what has happened

        Just playing Devil’s advocate, but that reminds me of a great Orwell quote: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

        So you have a network that tells the truth, and all the rest are saying to their viewers, “who are you going to believe, the outlier or the consensus of the majority? A lot of people are going to view the truth as editorial content. Getting control of a network as you describe is a great start, but it’s only a start.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 3:17 pm

        I think even if you could count only on those of us already fed up with the Agenda Media you would have a decent market share. Based on what we see we could probably expect a lot of Libs to watch if only to find out what to screech about, and screeching attracts interest.

        When I started being exposed to conservative ideas I rejected it all. But eventually it started to make sense to me. We got here incrementally and will get out the same way

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 3:38 pm

        Let’s say a show presents the following information, taken from today’s Steve Kirsch newsletter

        I had never seen a case of myocarditis or pericarditis in my prior 5 years of nursing before the vaccine rolled out. This was on a medical surgical unit, we also have telemetry and we’ll take step down overflow.

        In addition to that, the rate of other cardiac conditions in those under 30 has absolutely skyrocketed as well. New onset arrhythmias such as atrial fibrillation in very young patients, I’ve seen as young as 19, heart attacks and strokes in sub 30 patients, and quite a few cases of blood clots in very young people that did not also have covid at the time or recently prior to hospital admission.

        I now work in an ICU, what I’m seeing now is probably even more startling. The number of cardiovascular events occurring in those under 60 is shocking (of course, obviously these are the types of patients we see in an icu, but what is startling is the relative low age, and the volume in which we see them)

        Another wrote this:

        Steve, I am in nursing education after practicing for 30 years. In my practice, I never saw myocarditis in a child or young adult. Since the V, I have seen and heard faculty and students experiencing cardiac failure. Sudden loss of 2 faculty to cardiac arrest during the workday, students experiencing cardiac issues (under age 30), the children of students having cardiac problems, the spouses of faculty having cardiac problems (myocarditis specifically). It’s an every day occurrence in a medium size community college.

        Once these statements are out there, they are out there. Period. What can the Left do about it? Viewers will talk about this content, bringing others to see for themselves. While the predictable screechers are screeching, many will be doing their own research, for the first time, to find out how to debunk this sacrilege, and will stumble upon information they never knew existed.

        We, ourselves, have seen so much information on vaxx injuries we know there is a lot of information out there. So plot a series of carefully structured exposures—maybe bombshell stuff like this followed by stories on how this kind of information has been purposedly censored and hidden from the public, information on how doctors have been threatened or lost their licenses for trying to get this information out there, etc. Take everything we have seen links to just on this blog, organize it all into a series of shows that reveal, every day, another element of this problem, provide links to other data, and overwhelm the naysayers and whiners with so much content they can’t keep up with it on a daily basis. Make this a two-week series of daily half-hour shows, then follow up with another two week series of daily shows on another aspect of the Covid Panic, such as the suppression of life-saving therapeutics for political reasons. And so on. The various angles are numerous—-the government shielding of pharma from legal liability, the lies told by the government about the safety of the drugs, the government allowing ongoing use of experimental drugs, etc—a whole two week series focused not on the drug companies but on the government complicity.

        A relentless expose of formerly hidden and suppressed information can’t be completely overrun by howls of biased reporting. I believe this would reach critical mass a lot sooner than you might expect. When lawsuits start piling up and politicians are faced with demands for explanations, when feet are held to the fire, when criminal actions are considered or even pursued, no claims of biased reporting can overcome it. And you don’t need 100 million people to get this going.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 3:49 pm

        In other areas, reporting on the number of known criminals allowed to enter or reenter the United States can’t be drowned out by howls, nor can reporting on the crimes they then commit or the damage to their victims, or the complicity of so-called law enforcement officials who refuse to arrest, detain or prosecute.

        An objective report on a riot showing the coordinated acts of professional rioters accompanied by journalistic research into the fact they are well financed and travel from one riot to another with expenses paid would attract attention. Howling that showing this is politically motivated, and/or biased, isn’t going to change the fact that the information is out there and influencing SOME people.

        Showing video of teachers openly working to indoctrinate students is hard to refute. So is video of kindergarteners being encouraged to stuff money into G-strings of gyrating men dressed not just as women but as grotesque caricatures of women acting out sexual content. Right now the only people who know about such things are those of us who seek out information. I know people who consider themselves conservatives who are shocked to hear of Drag Queen Story Hour, for example, because they don’t watch Fox.

        But then you build on it. You don’t just show stuff, you go back and bring it into political campaigns, you use it to foment changes.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 3:58 pm

        Here’s a story that would cause a lot of angst on the Left but couldn’t be explained away by claims of editorializing or bias: (emphasis mine)

        A Wyoming sheriff wants a convicted illegal alien who raped an 8-year-old-girl to stay imprisoned, rather than face deportation because of the Biden administration’s immigration policies.

        Sweetwater Sheriff John Grossnickle believes that the border is open to previously deported criminals under the Biden administration, as was the case with the recent rape, he told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

        “During the Trump administration, we actively had federal authorities in our community working with us to enforce federal law, federal immigration law, simply on the basis of undocumented status, which is to say they came in because they were looking for someone who they knew was here illegally, and they were taking enforcement action on the basis of that immigration status in and of itself,” Grossnickle said.

        The victim was just 8 years old when Luis Saavedra Villa kidnapped and viciously sexually assaulted her in Sweetwater County, Wyoming.

        Saavedra Villa, 44, was a registered sex offender and a previously deported illegal alien from Mexico. He was convicted of sexual assault in 2001.

        The night of the recent assault, Saavedra Villa drove the juvenile victim, who knew him as a family friend, to McDonald’s while her mother was away working. He then sexually assaulted her in his work truck, locking its doors to stop her attempts to escape.

        After the assault, Saavedra Villa forced the victim to clean her own blood from his vehicle.

        “[It] was one of the most egregious that we’ve seen,” Sweetwater Sheriff John Grossnickle, who handled the case, told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

        When she was found, the young girl was transported to a nearby hospital and then to emergency surgery in Utah for her injuries.

        “He was just allowed back into the country. We had no idea that he was in Sweetwater County and received no communication of that,” Grossnickle said.

        “What bothers me about this case more than anything else is that it didn’t have to happen, and the damage of the fact these decisions being made in faraway Washington, D.C., they really don’t care,” Sweetwater County Attorney Dan Erramouspe told the DCNF.

        They would try to dismiss it by sneering “Oh, the Daily Caller!” as if that would make it all fake and to be ignored. But a lot of parents would see it and imagine their 8-year-old daughters being forced to clean up their own blood after being viciously raped, and have a strong reaction.

  2. Cluster December 29, 2022 / 10:48 am

    Back from Idaho for Christmas and need to catch up. I see Mark has been busy so I have some reading to do lol. I love taking a break from politics during the holidays but I also like jumping back into it and this will be an interesting year. IMHO, I think conservatives have to be constantly diligent in protecting individual freedoms because the natural tendency of human nature is to fall complacent and lazy and Leftists feed off of that. They are parasites who attach themselves to poorly educated, unaware, lazy narcissists who like nothing better than an easy life and a villain to blame for everything. I mean why work hard when you can rely on government to provide the basics and validate your hate toward others. It’s a win win for them, just ask Casper. He’s been feeding off the tax payer trough his entire life.

    • Retired Spook December 29, 2022 / 12:38 pm

      Did you get to Idaho in time to enjoy the arctic blast? My sister, who lives in Billings, MT, said the low on December 21st was forecast at 24 below zero. My retired navy buddy who lives near Jackson, WY, said it was the worst winter storm he’s seen in the 20 years he’s lived there.

      • Cluster December 29, 2022 / 1:17 pm

        No below zero temps but certainly single digits for a few days.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 1:47 pm

        With wind chill factored in it was about minus 50 at my Wyoming property, with some reports making it closer to minus 60. Every one of my wells had frozen pipes—fortunately, as far as we can tell, just the lines from the pressure tanks to the buildings. These are at the bottom of ten-foot deep well housings, and have never frozen. Hopefully the pressure tanks themselves survived, though I’ll have to wait till spring to learn about some of them.

        (I did, however, get a little lecture about “you know, you can insulate these tanks to keep them from freezing. Here is a photo of a tank lid—you can put insulation in this and it will keep the cold from going down into the tank.” And I earned another point on my Sainthood Calculator by refraining from responding with “DUH!” This is the same person who carefully explained to me that they sell special heaters at Tractor Supply I can put in stock tanks to keep them from freezing—after I spent 30 years ranching at 9000 feet with January temps reaching minus 40 every night, with a whole wall of tank heaters in my shop as well as two giant propane tanks and two expensive propane tank heaters. Nothing like being eddicated by someone with two months of experience feeding two pet calves in the summer.)

        But, returning to the topic at hand, we didn’t get much snow at my place so it didn’t really rank as a “storm” so much as just bitterly cold weather.

      • Amazona December 29, 2022 / 1:49 pm

        People kept sending me temperature updates from Colorado and Wyoming, and I callously responded that we were having a real cold snap here—-I even had to switch from shorts to capri pants and a long-sleeved T shirt for a couple of days.

      • Cluster December 29, 2022 / 5:46 pm


        Going back to earlier discussion

        Yet no conservative billionaire or consortium of billionaires has stepped up to buy a network and turn it into a source of real news and real entertainment.

        I think the reason, is that this Leftist march is global not just domestic, and many of these billionaires run multi national corporations and if they want to continue to do so and be profitable, they will have to conform. And they do. The Murdoch’s are the exception. By nature, governments are authoritarian and it takes constant diligence and occasional cleansing to keep that at bay. The United States has crossed the mid way point from a free republic to a controlled State, and I just don’t think we have the will to restore the glory. The Democrats and Republicans like McConnell have already sold this country out and are now just employees of the WEF and they are serving global interests, not ours.

      • Amazona December 30, 2022 / 11:59 am

        There is enough money in Carbon County Wyoming to buy at least one network. As a matter of fact, one of its billionaires did buy controlling interest in the company that owns CNN.

        John Malone, Phil Anshutz, Bruce White, the Gates Rubber Company family, the Grainger family, Timothy Mellon, all billionaires and primarily focused on domestic business. Malone is having some effect on CNN already though not moving fast enough. Anshutz owns the Washington Times. But an online newspaper and a cable station won’t cut it—-their audiences are too narrow. Put one or several of these guys in charge of NBC, ABC or CBS and suddenly they can make a real difference.

      • Retired Spook December 30, 2022 / 12:10 pm

        Put one or several of these guys in charge of NBC, ABC or CBS and suddenly they can make a real difference.

        On the first day they should do a 5 minute PSA, repeated every hour or two, in which they say to the audience, “welcome to the new (fill in the blank network) where truth is the first and foremost priority,” followed up by examples of how the network has lied to its viewers in the past.

  3. Amazona December 29, 2022 / 2:27 pm

    We’re Toast: Woman Makes $480 an Hour Teaching Social-Media Stunted Gen Z’ers How to Speak on Phones

    • Cluster December 29, 2022 / 5:48 pm

      Yes we are. Also consider that Twitter fired 75% of the staff with no noticeable difference. The US Government could do the very same thing.

  4. Cluster December 30, 2022 / 8:56 am

    So this morning, MSNBC is bemoaning school shootings, namely Uvalde. Question, what have Democrats and Congress done to secure elementary schools since Uvalde?

  5. Cluster December 30, 2022 / 9:56 am

    Let the irony of this just soak in …

    Democrat launches SANTOS Act – short for ‘Stop Another Non-Truthful Office Seeker’ – to punish candidates for lying about background after George Santos faked working at Goldman Sachs, attending college and family history

    • Amazona December 30, 2022 / 12:07 pm

      Now that we’ve finally seen Obama’s college transcripts we can finally start weeding out Republican posers.

      Oh, wait………

  6. Retired Spook December 30, 2022 / 10:21 am

    • Cluster December 30, 2022 / 10:28 am

      The Uni Party. Serving the globalists. Anyone who doesn’t see this, is dumb af.

    • Mark Noonan December 31, 2022 / 6:05 pm

      And they’re still going on as if we didn’t know – they really think they’ve put Trumpism back into the bottle.

      The GOP account on Twitter is getting mercilessly dragged these days as they hit old GOP talking points (limited government! secure the border) and we just keep hitting them with the Omnibus.

      I don’t know what is going to happen over the next two years. I do fully expect us to lose in 2024, and maybe pretty badly at the federal level. We are very much a Party divided…but there are some signs that some GOPers are starting to get it. To understand that we’re not going to tolerate being lied to.

  7. Cluster December 30, 2022 / 12:13 pm

    Musk is a liberal – I doubt he’ll ever stop being a liberal

    Truth be known, we are liberals. Conservatives are the new classic liberals believing in free speech, body autonomy, world peace, and “live and let live” world views. Progressive Democrats are the new authoritarian fascists now believing in thought conformity, censorship, and collectivism.

  8. Amazona December 30, 2022 / 12:33 pm

    As I keep saying, one way or another, we need to stop defining people by identity and/or ISSUES People can have the same issues but be politically opposed depending on how they think those issues should be addressed. Addressing an issue by advocating for the expansion of the size, scope and power of the federal government would mean you are a Leftist, while wanting to solve this problem within the boundaries of Constitutional governance would put you firmly on the Right.

  9. Amazona December 30, 2022 / 12:37 pm

    A friend who used to work for Southwest Airlines posted this letter this morning on Facebook. I found it interesting enough to pass on

    Larry Lonero
    December 28 at 11:21 AM ·

    What happened to Southwest Airlines?

    I’ve been a pilot for Southwest Airlines for over 35 years. I’ve given my heart and soul to Southwest Airlines during those years. And quite honestly Southwest Airlines has given its heart and soul to me and my family.

    Many of you have asked what caused this epic meltdown. Unfortunately, the frontline employees have been watching this meltdown coming like a slow motion train wreck for sometime. And we’ve been begging our leadership to make much needed changes in order to avoid it. What happened yesterday started two decades ago.

    Herb Kelleher was the brilliant CEO of SWA until 2004. He was a very operationally oriented leader. Herb spent lots of time on the front line. He always had his pulse on the day to day operation and the people who ran it. That philosophy flowed down through the ranks of leadership to the front line managers. We were a tight operation from top to bottom. We had tools, leadership and employee buy in. Everything that was needed to run a first class operation. When Herb retired in 2004 Gary Kelly became the new CEO.

    Gary was an accountant by education and his style leading Southwest Airlines became more focused on finances and less on operations. He did not spend much time on the front lines. He didn’t engage front line employees much. When the CEO doesn’t get out in the trenches the neither do the lower levels of leadership.

    Gary named another accountant to be Chief Operating Officer (the person responsible for day to day operations). The new COO had little or no operational background. This trickled down through the lower levels of leadership, as well.

    They all disengaged the operation, disengaged the employees and focused more on Return on Investment, stock buybacks and Wall Street. This approach worked for Gary’s first 8 years because we were still riding the strong wave that Herb had built.

    But as time went on the operation began to deteriorate. There was little investment in upgrading technology (after all, how do you measure the return on investing in infrastructure?) or the tools we needed to operate efficiently and consistently. As the frontline employees began to see the deterioration in our operation we began to warn our leadership. We educated them, we informed them and we made suggestions to them. But to no avail. The focus was on finances not operations. As we saw more and more deterioration in our operation our asks turned to pleas. Our pleas turned to dire warnings. But they went unheeded. After all, the stock price was up so what could be wrong?

    We were a motivated, willing and proud employee group wanting to serve our customers and uphold the tradition of our beloved airline, the airline we built and the airline that the traveling public grew to cheer for and luv. But we were watching in frustration and disbelief as our once amazing airline was becoming a house of cards.

    A half dozen small scale meltdowns occurred during the mid to late 2010’s. With each mini meltdown Leadership continued to ignore the pleas and warnings of the employees in the trenches. We were still operating with 1990’s technology. We didn’t have the tools we needed on the line to operate the sophisticated and large airline we had become. We could see that the wheels were about ready to fall off the bus. But no one in leadership would heed our pleas.

    When COVID happened SWA scaled back considerably (as did all of the airlines) for about two years. This helped conceal the serious problems in technology, infrastructure and staffing that were occurring and being ignored. But as we ramped back up the lack of attention to the operation was waiting to show its ugly head.

    Gary Kelly retired as CEO in early 2022. Bob Jordan was named CEO. He was a more operationally oriented leader. He replaced our Chief Operating Officer with a very smart man and they announced their priority would be to upgrade our airline’s technology and provide the frontline employees the operational tools we needed to care for our customers and employees. Finally, someone acknowledged the elephant in the room.

    But two decades of neglect takes several years to overcome. And, unfortunately to our horror, our house of cards came tumbling down this week as a routine winter storm broke our 1990’s operating system.
    The frontline employees were ready and on station. We were properly staffed. We were at the airports. Hell, we were ON the airplanes. But our antiquated software systems failed coupled with a decades old system of having to manage 20,000 frontline employees by phone calls. No automation had been developed to run this sophisticated machine.

    We had a routine winter storm across the Midwest last Thursday. A larger than normal number flights were cancelled as a result. But what should have been one minor inconvenient day of travel turned into this nightmare. After all, American, United, Delta and the other airlines operated with only minor flight disruptions.

    The two decades of neglect by SWA leadership caused the airline to lose track of all its crews. ALL of us. We were there. With our customers. At the jet. Ready to go. But there was no way to assign us. To confirm us. To release us to fly the flight. And we watched as our customers got stranded without their luggage missing their Christmas holiday.

    I believe that our new CEO Bob Jordan inherited a MESS. This meltdown was not his failure but the failure of those before him. I believe he has the right priorities. But it will take time to right this ship. A few years at a minimum. Old leaders need to be replaced. Operationally oriented managers need to be brought in. I hope and pray Bob can execute on his promises to fix our once proud airline. Time will tell.

    It’s been a punch in the gut for us frontline employees. We care for the traveling public. We have spent our entire careers serving you. Safely. Efficiently. With luv and pride. We are horrified. We are sorry. We are sorry for the chaos, inconvenience and frustration our airline caused you. We are angry. We are embarrassed. We are sad. Like you, the traveling public, we have been let down by our own leaders.

    Herb once said the the biggest threat to Southwest Airlines will come from within. Not from other airlines. What a visionary he was. I miss Herb now more than ever.

    • Cluster December 30, 2022 / 12:59 pm

      Great letter and thanks for posting. Living in Phoenix, I have flown SWA numerous times and while not a big fan, they were always reasonably priced, friendly, and most always on time. I never did like how they group passengers like cattle to board the plane but oh well. I hope they get back on track. They are a big Phoenix company.

  10. Cluster December 31, 2022 / 12:39 pm

    I have to comment on Caspers brief posting that claimed people are dying of Covid in Republican controlled areas more so than Democrat controlled areas based on some “peer reviewed”paper from some leftist outlet. This study contends I guess that this is a bad thing which contradicts everything Democrats preach. I mean if white supremacy extremism is the greatest threat this country faces, and all that white supremacy is found in Republican controlled areas, shouldn’t these findings be celebrated? Or do Democrats want to save white supremacists?? I’m so confused.

    • casper3031 December 31, 2022 / 1:13 pm

      I have as many conservative friends as liberal. I want all to to live safe happy lives and I see no reason to celebrate the deaths of any of my fellow Americans.

      • Cluster December 31, 2022 / 1:33 pm

        So you’re saying you want the violent white supremacists to live and to continue to threaten our democracy?? That makes no sense. If you’re true to your convictions, you would take a different stance .. so I’m thinking you don’t buy into all the Democrat bullshit but you vote for it. Again, you make zero sense

      • casper3031 December 31, 2022 / 1:42 pm

        Cluster, Are you saying that all conservatives are violent white supremacists? I certainly don’t believe that. And while there are violent white supremacists who pose a threat to out country, they are a small minority and should be dealt with through law enforcement.

      • Mark Noonan December 31, 2022 / 5:57 pm

        But you will celebrate obvious bullsh**.

        I mean, come on!

        Masks DO NOT WORK. A bit of cloth over your face DOES NOTHING to stop a virus. This is patently obvious for anyone with even cursory knowledge of biology. That they were sold by the Ruling Class – including doctors! – merely shows how utterly dishonest some people can be…and that they were believed by people, and are still believed mostly by liberals, shows that the main mark of America today – especially liberals – is lack of basic knowledge. No surprise that you guys believe anything – you don’t know anything and so can’t bounce assertions off a reservoir of independent knowledge. You just believe whatever the “good guys” tell you. We on the Right should have figured this out in 1998 when you seriously believed that the President suborning perjury was something to Move On from…why did you believe it should be Moved On from? Because the “good guys” told you to.

        Also: the vaccine is clearly ineffective at stopping infections. There are still assertions that they help with symptoms but we really don’t know. I got the first two shots and I got pretty darn sick with Covid. Other people didn’t get any shots and didn’t do any worse than I did. Maybe it helped, maybe it didn’t – but as the people asserting its helps also say that masks work, I think we have to discount the assertions.

        It is a cold virus. Having experienced it, I can assert that it is a VERY BAD cold virus. I’m sure that people with underlying medical conditions are going to have a really rough time of it when they catch – and THEY WILL CATCH IT. Eventually, every person on Earth will be exposed to it (probably, by this point, better than 90 percent have been) and it will do what it is going to do. Some people won’t get sick at all. Some will get mildly sick. Some will get severely sick. Some will die (from what I can tell, less than 2 percent die). It is bad – AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. In all of our advances in human medicine, we still can’t cure a virus. The best we’ve been able to do in some instances is lessen the severity of the virus. Maybe someday we will be able to cure a virus, but probably not: they mutate rapidly. It is what they do. In their niche of life, mutation is the only way to survive and all life has a built in biological urge to survive first and foremost.

        The whole thing we endured in Covid – masks, lockdowns, social distancing – every last thing was a complete waste of time. And probably cost more lives than it saved. Massively expensive, too.

        But, heck with it, Casper: you still won’t believe it. You went through it and saw with your own eyes…but the TV says the opposite of what your lying eyes tell you, and you’re going with the TV.

      • Cluster December 31, 2022 / 6:58 pm

        It’s Republicans who are also a threat to democracy Casper. C’mon now. Keep up.

  11. Cluster December 31, 2022 / 6:56 pm

    Amazing how simplistic your world view is Casper. So are you telling us that there were no other factors that determined who and who did not succumb to a manufactured virus with a 97% survival rate?

    • Cluster January 1, 2023 / 9:58 am

      So you even believe the numbers attributed to Covid??? Those are all lies to Casper. For the love of God would you please be more critical of big government.

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